^There are a few spots that are kind of needed for it for example Linwood going south into Mt. Lookout Square should actually go to 7 IMO, it is always a mess and people are always trying to cut down and it creates gridlock at the intersection with Delta, but I agree with you that in some places it absolutely isn't needed.

I would love to see fewer rush hour parking restrictions. I was just downtown, and traffic was completely gone around 530, but I couldn't park at practically any meters because they all had 4-6 restrictions. Hardly anyone uses those lanes because there's always a single car parked in that lane during the restrictions, so you usually get no additional volume.

 

There are some paths downtown where the 4-6 and 7-9 parking is not strictly enforced. I note 7th Street, Race Street, And Plum. I am all over town all day, every day. We know where to park and it is no problem. When 4-6 takes over the lots empty out  and spaces are available all over the CBD.

 

But the 4-6 southbound from Central Parkway are always open and assisting greatly. They tow the parkers out of there like it was a contest. And drivers are on 911 every time a car is interfering. Without 4-6 and to a lesser extent 7-9 it would be a complete mess downtown. As it is, things run smoothly when the bell rings. It doesn't just double volume, its more than that. No morons trying to parallel park or hunting for a space. I'd bet Sycamore and Walnut process three times the volume at 4-6.

If non motorist safety was a priority, then this would be a one-lane roundabout, something like so (note I am not a traffic engineer, and it's a little messy in places, but this should be the goal).

^That looks pretty damn-near perfect. Well done! One question: how important is Old Ludlow to traffic flow? Seems to only help SB Ludlow to SB Spring Grove, and that traffic might be better served taking SB Central Parkway to Monmouth Ave bridge. The original drawing from September had closed Old Ludlow, which simplified the intersection a bit.

I don't know that having only an exit to a street is that big a deal, though it does complicate the bike lanes.  I think the city might be wary of closing it off completely because they'd need to do a cul-de-sac or a hammerhead or something to allow a proper turnaround, which there isn't really room for.  Since Elmore was made 2-way, there's less of a need to get vehicles from the Ludlow Viaduct to Dooley Bypass for anyone going towards Camp Washington or South Cumminsville.  Since Old Ludlow is pretty wide, I'd be an advocate for using some of that space for a proper cycle track connecting to the Mill Creek Greenway Trail, since there's a stop light at Dooley already. 

There isn't much traffic on Old Ludlow besides people headed to White Castle.  That might be who argues for it to stay open. 

 

This intersection, as-is, is a character-defining spot in the city.  There is no history of traffic circles in Cincinnati.  This project doesn't accomplish anything other than function as a slide in a career-hopper's portfolio. 

I would love to see fewer rush hour parking restrictions. I was just downtown, and traffic was completely gone around 530, but I couldn't park at practically any meters because they all had 4-6 restrictions. Hardly anyone uses those lanes because there's always a single car parked in that lane during the restrictions, so you usually get no additional volume.

 

That's the biggest flaw in the bus lane that Better Bus Coalition is proposing for the CBD. If there's a single car parked in it during the hours it's in effect, it totally fails. And, as we've seen with the streetcar, CPD has zero willingness to ticket and tow cars blocking transit corridors.

This intersection, as-is, is a character-defining spot in the city.  There is no history of traffic circles in Cincinnati.  This project doesn't accomplish anything other than function as a slide in a career-hopper's portfolio. 

In its latest twist and turn, this contentious issue came to the forefront again, in that a multitude of citizens don't want it:

https://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/roundabout-at-knowltons-corner-not-the-answer-for-busy-intersection-city-says

I would love to see fewer rush hour parking restrictions. I was just downtown, and traffic was completely gone around 530, but I couldn't park at practically any meters because they all had 4-6 restrictions. Hardly anyone uses those lanes because there's always a single car parked in that lane during the restrictions, so you usually get no additional volume.

 

That's the biggest flaw in the bus lane that Better Bus Coalition is proposing for the CBD. If there's a single car parked in it during the hours it's in effect, it totally fails. And, as we've seen with the streetcar, CPD has zero willingness to ticket and tow cars blocking transit corridors.

 

That's why they should probably just make it in affect at all times (with a carve out for truck loading from 10-2 and before 6am after 9pm) you only lose like  14 parking spaces the whole way.

Wow...a $420k listing in Northside for a pretty typical house:

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/0_fr/1_fs/4099_rid/2-_beds/48000-479000_price/X1-SS18umt4nh6nrbf_31kch_sse/34249867_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-content-v2-everything3&utm_content=20180324-forsaleaddress-PSS&rtoken=99da1ea1-d5c0-4787-896a-f0c7db96a362~X1-ZU1083bmrat4h6x_8469x&3col=true

^I will say that house does have 4 bedrooms and 3.5 baths. It also has a really long private driveway and backyard, open kitchen, and looks to be in good condition. Would I pay that much? No. But I think the market is there for a house like this.

I don't know if the backyard and driveway are quite as long as they appear in the photos in that listing.  We actually used the same realtor as these sellers when we sold our home last year, and our realtor's photographer did a nice job of making the rooms and yard appear a little larger than they actually were.  Our rear yard was very similar in size (yet it appeared rather spacious in the photos). 

 

This home's lot is 120' deep, so you end up with a rear that is roughly 50' deep x 30' wide (including the concrete driveway).  At my previous home, that worked fine for our two children of toddler age, but it didn't give our dog much room to run around. 

 

I believe there's only been 1 or 2 single family homes in Northside that have sold for more than $400K over the past couple years.  Housing prices have definitely been on the increase in Northside, so I'll be curious to see what this house ends up selling for. 

I was surprised by the asking price on this listing. 3 bedroom, 3 bath, 2,357 sq ft house within walking distance of Northside's NBD, listed for $389,740.

Some info on DOTE's trial in Northside of removing the rushhour parking restrictions (allowing 24/7 parking): https://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/keep-testing-24-hour-parking-on-hamilton-ave-northside-community-council-says

 

I really hope that a) the results encourage DOTE to make the on-street parking on Hamilton Ave permanent, and b) they look at other streets throughout the city that would benefit similarly.

One of the two new homes built by a Cincinnati Firefighter on Vandalia (old railroad tracks) has been listed:

https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1585254/1625-Vandalia-Ave-Northside-OH-45223

 

I wish the staircase was open and was a modern design.  I really outstanding staircase would have made the space pop.  Also, the ceiling in the main room needed to be a material other than drywall and should have been sloped in some manner. 

Asking price seems way too high based on the quality of finishes. Not to mention the fact that you’d walk out your front door every day and immediately face a gravel parking lot full of semi trailers.

Yeah those are super bland and generic. Many of those finishes will be worn out in 5 years.

I was surprised by the asking price on this listing. 3 bedroom, 3 bath, 2,357 sq ft house within walking distance of Northside's NBD, listed for $389,740.

 

My friend bought this place! He's moving from Chicago, really wanted to be in Northside, and tbh when we took a look with a realtor at all the stuff that was on the market currently, it was by far and away the best deal. We saw places asking for more and giving a LOT less space with a lot of awkward remodeling decisions.

Asking price seems way too high based on the quality of finishes. Not to mention the fact that youd walk out your front door every day and immediately face a gravel parking lot full of semi trailers.

 

The first one is under contract.  I assume that they'll list the second one after the first one closes.  He paid under $30k total for both lots, so he's going to be pocketing at least $100k off each house, and likely north of $200k. 

 

So we have a lot of people who have been yapping day-in-and-out for 15-20 years on Twitter and on forums like this about architecture, city planning, college design program rankings, etc., and then some guy comes along with no formal training, totally understands the game, and makes big money while commentators are out there whining about their student loans and high housing prices in Portland or wherever. 

 

 

Wow...a $420k listing in Northside for a pretty typical house:

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/0_fr/1_fs/4099_rid/2-_beds/48000-479000_price/X1-SS18umt4nh6nrbf_31kch_sse/34249867_zpid/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo-content-v2-everything3&utm_content=20180324-forsaleaddress-PSS&rtoken=99da1ea1-d5c0-4787-896a-f0c7db96a362~X1-ZU1083bmrat4h6x_8469x&3col=true

 

this house is literally next door to us, and it sold for $400K exactly.

 

I did a walk-through during an open house.  It probably sold for the amount that it did because a surprising amount of the original house's wood trim, including glassed in pocket doors, were still intact and in great shape.  It's a BIG house with all three floors and it's in great shape now, and the street is really nice and three short blocks away from the Hamilton Ave business district.

 

The real gag is that the redevelopment company bought it for $135K when it was in HORRIBLE shape and narrowly escaped being condemned a few years back, and meanwhile we bought our place for $170K in 2009.

 

what you're seeing in Northside is a hollowing out of the decent starter home market. most houses available seem to be sub 70K places in bad enough shape that they don't show the interior in real estate listings OR places that have been freshly renovated for over 200K.

 

 

Asking price seems way too high based on the quality of finishes. Not to mention the fact that youd walk out your front door every day and immediately face a gravel parking lot full of semi trailers.

 

The first one is under contract.  I assume that they'll list the second one after the first one closes.  He paid under $30k total for both lots, so he's going to be pocketing at least $100k off each house, and likely north of $200k. 

 

So we have a lot of people who have been yapping day-in-and-out for 15-20 years on Twitter and on forums like this about architecture, city planning, college design program rankings, etc., and then some guy comes along with no formal training, totally understands the game, and makes big money while commentators are out there whining about their student loans and high housing prices in Portland or wherever. 

 

 

 

Yes, two very reasonable things to complain about actually. But kudos to this guy regardless. And as far as the location, I highly doubt that will be a gravel parking lot forever.

I just saw on Twitter that the former Save-A-Lot has been purchased, allowing the Apple Street Market to move forward. My question is, with the ongoing struggles of the Clifton Market (it is still open?), is the Apple Street Market actually a good idea and a viable business? If a small grocery coop can't make it in Clifton, can one make it in Northside just 2 miles down the road? Perhaps it would make more sense for one coop to operate both stores and share some of the overhead.

There continues to be a lot of activity in Northside, currently concentrating around ApJones, Mad Anthony, and Chambers Street.

Here are some quick pictures of a larger ongoing development at the corner of APJones and Chambers.

Interior demo of the stucture took place over the summer, and the property behind the project was purchased and torn down in October. 

Once the house behind it was torn down, a large retaining wall was installed. The plan is to extend the townhomes into that empty space. Their will be 4 units with 4 bedrooms or about about 2000 square feet each, and then one smaller unit above the retail corner store.  

They are currently installing windows and working on “closing the envolope”. 

 

 

Edited December 13, 20186 yr by NsideProp

That store was still open until maybe a year ago. 

 

Apjones/Mad Anthony was a rough spot up until about three years ago.   

Yeah it was. They closed last summer. The guys running it were super nice too. Just not enough foot traffic coupled with lack luster inventory. The larger building itself, as explained to me by a cop, was a former crack house. 

God, I hope that's not the color scheme they're going with

I'm still shocked that Junkers Tavern wound up being a hipster dive bar even though that happened a while back...

 

On 7/10/2018 at 8:13 AM, northsider said:

 

 

what you're seeing in Northside is a hollowing out of the decent starter home market. most houses available seem to be sub 70K places in bad enough shape that they don't show the interior in real estate listings OR places that have been freshly renovated for over 200K.

 

 

 

The market for "starter homes" in Northside is pretty rapidly evaporating and perhaps gone at this point. I rent, and am happy doing so, given the price I currently pay. 

 

I looked at homes here in 2009 and found great places for 70-125k. Everything I looked at this time around in 2017 was in the 250-300k range. Northside is a fantastic place to live, especially if you are raising a family (as evidenced by the dogs and children parading up and down my street on a daily basis). It is at a very interesting point now, and experiencing a fair deal of what I might call growing pains. There are ex-suburbanites living around me who are dissatisfied with the fact that drivers treat Hamilton Ave. and Colerain like mini highway arteries, and decry graffiti and car break-ins. 

 

Basically, parts of the Northside I spent time in while I was a student in 2004-2010 are still alive and well. Some new faces and elements are emerging and some blend in, as others stick out, as they still maintain the attitude and ethos of someone living in Mason or Mariemont (I have neighbors from each area). One thing is certain: it's hilarious to watch a clearly monied couple wait to cross the street next to a group of Anarchist crust punks...a very San Francisco vibe. 

It's surprising to me how long Northside flew under the radar. For probably 10-15 years it was a neighborhood that was extremely affordable yet had great walkability and great amenities. It seemed to change almost overnight and suddenly there are all kinds of beautifully renovated homes selling for $300k and up. I didn't realize that people from the suburbs moving there was such a big factor, but it makes sense.

Anecdotally, nearly everyone I know who has relocated to Cincinnati from the west coast now lives in Northside. I think that's a big factor - folks used to seeing 2 bedroom California shanties for $800,000 don't balk at buying a $400,000 renovated home in Northside like the average Cincinnatian might.

16 minutes ago, taestell said:

It's surprising to me how long Northside flew under the radar. For probably 10-15 years it was a neighborhood that was extremely affordable yet had great walkability and great amenities. It seemed to change almost overnight and suddenly there are all kinds of beautifully renovated homes selling for $300k and up. I didn't realize that people from the suburbs moving there was such a big factor, but it makes sense.

 

My street is an interesting mix of folks from the suburbs, a  younger couple from D.C. across the street, one couple from California (as mentioned above) and several dyed-in-the-wool locals who have called Northside home for many years. I loved this neighborhood years ago while at UC, wondered why people didn't flock to it. Well, they do now.  

Edited January 4, 20196 yr by NorthsiderWithaDog

45 minutes ago, Ram23 said:

Anecdotally, nearly everyone I know who has relocated to Cincinnati from the west coast now lives in Northside. I think that's a big factor - folks used to seeing 2 bedroom California shanties for $800,000 don't balk at buying a $400,000 renovated home in Northside like the average Cincinnatian might.

 

When I was looking for houses in early 2013, I looked at and seriously considered buying a house on Glen Parker listed at $54,000.  The place didn't need any work. 

 

I also looked at a house in the 4200 block of Kirby, back when that bottom block was still pretty questionable.  Same with the 1700 block of Chase -- it was far from certain that things were going to improve. 

 

At the time the fringes of Northside were still very rough, i.e. Cumbers, Mad Anthony, Apjones, Cooper, and the bottom block of Kirby.  Oh, and don't forget the dreaded Boyd St.  That street was a mugger's paradise. 

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Basically, parts of the Northside I spent time in while I was a student in 2004-2010 are still alive and well. Some new faces and elements are emerging and some blend in, as others stick out, as they still maintain the attitude and ethos of someone living in Mason or Mariemont (I have neighbors from each area). One thing is certain: it's hilarious to watch a clearly monied couple wait to cross the street next to a group of Anarchist crust punks...a very San Francisco vibe.

 

Maybe not so much now given how unaffordable San Francisco has become and how many reports I've heard of bohemians leaving for cheaper spots.

 

I was in Northside over the holidays and I'd say it still has a its Bohemian feel, its just not quite as rough around the edges as it once was it hasn't reached a tipping point like say Wicker Park did circa 2011 and there was a mass exodus of hipsters to Logan Square.

Edited January 8, 20196 yr by neilworms

Smash Mouth is playing Urban Artifact on Valentine's Day:

https://www.cincyticket.com/ordertickets.asp?p=7335

That actually appears to be authentic and not a repeat of the Limp Bizkit/Sunoco situation.

1 hour ago, taestell said:

That actually appears to be authentic and not a repeat of the Limp Bizkit/Sunoco situation.

 

Limp Bizkit is now scheduled to play a second gig at that gas station on April 8, 2024, during the solar eclipse. 

^Near Totality, Y'all

 

see those lighters!

Was it ever specified which Sunoco Limp Bizkit was going to be playing at? Because Wayne Avenue has two Sunocos a half mile apart on the same side of the street. 

19 minutes ago, BigDipper 80 said:

Was it ever specified which Sunoco Limp Bizkit was going to be playing at? Because Wayne Avenue has two Sunocos a half mile apart on the same side of the street. 

 

This one:

 

Here are some more pictures from recent activity in Northside. Specifically, on the eastern side of neighborhood. 

The windows are in and more exterior paint is being applied. 

This site is on the corner of Knowlton and Chambers. Directly across from Knowltons Tavern. 3 buildings were demoed, and its to my understanding 3 homes sharing a common drive/space will replace them. 

This recently renovated and expanded home sites katty corner to that demoed lot, on Knowlton. The metal siding material is somewhat of a mini trend I’ve seen in Northside. 

This is a newly renovated home on Mad Anthony with the same type of metal siding.

Another home on Chambers with the metal siding. Seems like it should be low maintenance. 

 

 

Edited February 21, 20196 yr by NsideProp

That corner store was still open until 1-2 years ago. 

This Cincinnati neighborhood is among fastest gentrifying in the U.S., and it’s not OTR

 

A rapidly changing Cincinnati neighborhood is among the areas being gentrified the fastest across the nation.

 

Northside’s 45223 ZIP code ranks No. 29 in the nation and No. 2 in Ohio among the fastest-gentrifying areas, according to a new report from Realtor.com.

 

“Accelerated by sky-high rents and home prices as well as a wave of urban renewal, (gentrification is) now hitting previously overlooked neighborhoods,” Realtor.com contributor Lance Lambert writes.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/04/19/this-cincinnati-neighborhood-is-among-the-fastest.html

 

I sold my house on Beech Hill for $136k back in 2016 ($5k appreciation), but the drug dealing / murder house next door, which was pretty much a copy, sold for $367k (listed for $400k). And now the house next to that, which is just a typical workers home (now an "urban farmhouse") sold for $385k last year.

 

I should have just rented my house out all these years and then sold ?

The great thing about northside is that it's not simply attracing empty nesters like most of otr/CBD is attracting, but rather attracting families with kids. I feel like it's so rare to see kids anywhere downtown but at Northside you have actual families living close to downtown again. 

8 hours ago, troeros said:

The great thing about northside is that it's not simply attracing empty nesters like most of otr/CBD is attracting, but rather attracting families with kids. I feel like it's so rare to see kids anywhere downtown but at Northside you have actual families living close to downtown again. 

 

The last time I was in Northside I thought it was just coincidental that I saw more kids there than I ever remember when I used to hang out there a lot even 5 years ago. Northside is at a really interesting cross roads it appears; a little gayborhood, a little hipster/grunge, a little yuppie, and apparently a little family oriented. As the neighborhood has changed, it has also still maintained a lot of the character and small business focus its always had. I don't know if Northside can continue to walk this well balanced line it appears to be on, but I hope so. Truly mixed communities like this are so rare. 

 

Are the kids over the age of 8-10? That's the age when Ohio cities have historically tended to lose their middle-class and up families. Cincinnati and Cleveland are a little different in this respect than Columbus due to parochial school culture. I remember getting a demographic report in the Oakley newsletter when I lived there 10-12 years ago which stated that literally fewer than 20 teenagers lived in the neighborhood.

Edited April 21, 20196 yr by GCrites80s

On 4/20/2019 at 12:46 PM, troeros said:

actual families living close to downtown again. 

This is also common in Pendleton and much closer to downtown than Northside. 

 

 

 

Well, nobody celebrates the 4th like Northside:

https://www.facebook.com/wannashmokeajoint/videos/2480749895282626/

 

 

 

Edited July 6, 20195 yr by jmecklenborg

On 3/15/2018 at 11:18 AM, JYP said:

 

The one-lane roundabout makes sense as the Northside community is also looking to remove the rush hour parking restrictions along Hamilton.

 

Now that the parking restriction removal is permanent could we see the one-lane roundabout get revived? Or at the very least some bump outs and other traffic calming measures? 

While I certainly welcome traffic calming measures in Northside, I wouldnt want to sacrifice the ability to run BRT on Hamilton Ave. I feel adding bump outs to Hamilton would prevent a bus only lane and real BRT. 

 

I wonder how many of the crosswalk ‘paddles’ have been run over. How many times have they been replaced ? They might help a little bit, but crossing Hamilton Ave, you are taking your life in your hands if you are not paying attention. 

 

 

On 7/6/2019 at 12:14 AM, jmecklenborg said:

 

 

 

Well, nobody celebrates the 4th like Northside:

https://www.facebook.com/wannashmokeajoint/videos/2480749895282626/

 

 

 

This seems to be taken from a garage space off Blazter Alley. That place was an absolute mad house on the 4ht of July. Lots of noise and people.  A band regularly practices there. Once I passed by when the band was messing around, I gave them a nod, and looked in, I could clearly see the words “JACK SHACK”  spray painted on the wall. 

 

But ultimately your right, no one celebrates the 4th like Northside !