March 2, 20232 yr Not going to lie, the tower portion of gravity is such a big disappointment. Big. Boxy. Tan and bland. I'm not sure the mural will help either. I would have rather a facade of brick to tie into the peninsula. Without the architectural flare the original proposal had, it kind of sticks out in a bad way with the rest of Gravity.
March 2, 20232 yr On 2/26/2023 at 4:09 PM, amped91 said: Some neat drone pics of the progress on Thrive’s Mount Carmel East redev from the Facebook account Vivid Columbus. The top is ground work for the 4-story, 200 unit apt building, and the bottom is the nearby 18 SFHs and townhomes. https://www.facebook.com/vividcolumbus?mibextid=LQQJ4d Wow, thanks for sharing! The mixed-use building is pretty massive! That's so exciting. Can't beat the vicinity for Mount Carmel nursing students or CoverMyMeds!
March 2, 20232 yr 31 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: Not going to lie, the tower portion of gravity is such a big disappointment. Big. Boxy. Tan and bland. I'm not sure the mural will help either. I would have rather a facade of brick to tie into the peninsula. Without the architectural flare the original proposal had, it kind of sticks out in a bad way with the rest of Gravity. NRI to the rescue??
March 2, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, jebleprls22 said: Wow, thanks for sharing! The mixed-use building is pretty massive! That's so exciting. Can't beat the vicinity for Mount Carmel nursing students or CoverMyMeds! I’m really glad to see more investment going into the west side of 315 now. I wish I could find renderings of how the final product here is supposed to look, but regardless, I think this will be good for F-ton. Also looking forward to seeing what Pizzuti and Thrive have planned for the old car lot on the other side of the hospital.
March 2, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, amped91 said: Also looking forward to seeing what Pizzuti and Thrive have planned for the old car lot on the other side of the hospital. I think it will look a lot like the Jeffrey Park area, about 5-6 story apartments and maybe some for sale units.
March 2, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I think it will look a lot like the Jeffrey Park area, about 5-6 story apartments and maybe some for sale units. Honestly wouldn’t be upset about that. Hopefully a little more commercial space and variety, but overall I like the look of JP, especially as it moves south and starts adding more diversity.
March 2, 20232 yr On 2/26/2023 at 5:09 PM, amped91 said: Some neat drone pics of the progress on Thrive’s Mount Carmel East redev from the Facebook account Vivid Columbus. The top is ground work for the 4-story, 200 unit apt building, and the bottom is the nearby 18 SFHs and townhomes. This picture makes Columbus look so much more layered with low-to-high rises. I just know that as a kid so many pictures of Columbus had angles that just show the skyscrapers with what appears to be almost nothing between or in front of them.
March 2, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, amped91 said: ...I wish I could find renderings of how the final product here is supposed to look... Business First published a rendering some time ago. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/03/21/mt-carmel-west.html
March 2, 20232 yr 51 minutes ago, Pablo said: Business First published a rendering some time ago. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/03/21/mt-carmel-west.html So yes, exactly what I thought it would be.
March 2, 20232 yr Just now, VintageLife said: So yes, exactly what I thought it would be. Ha, I was about to say the same thing. Don’t love it, don’t hate it. The plaza could be really nice, especially if it’s activated with food trucks, markets, parties, etc. throughout the year.
March 4, 20232 yr Another project I forgot about. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 4, 20232 yr On 3/2/2023 at 2:37 PM, Pablo said: Business First published a rendering some time ago. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/03/21/mt-carmel-west.html It really does not look bad at all to me. I would say competent but nothing outstanding or anything. Good materials will help. I wish the balconies were recessed though,.
March 5, 20232 yr Signage is up on Harmon Ave where the county plans to build the Franklin County Crisis Care Center An article in today's Dispatch suggests we should see dirt moving on site soon: "Franklin County, its Alcohol, Drug and Mental Health Board and the Central Ohio Hospital Council broke ground in February on their new Mental Health and Addiction Crisis Center, 465 Harmon Ave. Located in South Franklinton, it's across from the Franklin County Children's Services building, south of Interstate 70. The nearly $60 million project remains on track for an expected 2025 opening, with officials in the process of finalizing paperwork and other elements within the next 30 days before gearing up for construction." https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/healthcare/2023/03/05/upcoming-columbus-area-health-center-projects-what-you-need-to-know/69940711007/
March 5, 20232 yr On 2/11/2023 at 9:50 AM, amped91 said: Noticed this today: What's the location of this one?
March 5, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: Signage is up on Harmon Ave where the county plans to build the Franklin County Crisis Care Center An article in today's Dispatch suggests we should see dirt moving on site soon: "Franklin County, its Alcohol, Drug and Mental Health Board and the Central Ohio Hospital Council broke ground in February on their new Mental Health and Addiction Crisis Center, 465 Harmon Ave. Located in South Franklinton, it's across from the Franklin County Children's Services building, south of Interstate 70. The nearly $60 million project remains on track for an expected 2025 opening, with officials in the process of finalizing paperwork and other elements within the next 30 days before gearing up for construction." https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/healthcare/2023/03/05/upcoming-columbus-area-health-center-projects-what-you-need-to-know/69940711007/ As long as this place gets proper funding, every year, it’s going to be great.
March 5, 20232 yr 28 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: What's the location of this one? It’s for the Harriet’s Hope building https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2022/09/23/project-to-house-trafficking-victims-secures-funding-to-move-forward/69512923007/
March 8, 20232 yr On 3/2/2023 at 2:37 PM, Pablo said: Business First published a rendering some time ago. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/03/21/mt-carmel-west.html After another brief pause, progress seems to be picking back up at Mount Carmel West site
March 8, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, amped91 said: Wonder what’s up with the constant pauses in construction on this one? Labor availability?
March 10, 20232 yr The two buildings at 373-375 W Rich St have been listed for sale. Hopefully someone buys them and actually redevelops them. I get they are right next to the track, but could still be an awesome residential unit.
March 14, 20232 yr Interesting read from Matter News. It’s primarily about how the growing popularity of Franklinton (and the skyrocketing of costs in general) has increased artists’ rents at 400, pushing some of them out of their studios. But the article also talks about coming redevelopment from Urban Smart Growth (owner of 400 and many surrounding properties)—including mention of the vacant lot next door (where “Lucas Lofts” has been proposed) and the current site of the Vanderelli Room—and talk amongst some artists of relocating deeper into Franklinton. I’d read some vague comments out there about Franklinton artists being upset, so it’s nice to have more information on the situation. I also have a friend who has been leasing a significant amount of space at 400, so I’ll have to reach out and see if he’s experiencing the same problem. ‘We knew this was coming’: Changes begin to hit 400 West Rich “Halliday, 75, said he currently pays $338 a month for his studio. But when he went to renew his lease, which is set to expire in April, he said he was told by Cara Tedrow, national director of property management for Urban Smart Growth, that the price would be increased to “about $900” a month. “I sell a few paintings a year and maybe get a commission or two. … But I’m living off Social Security and another small stipend I get for my wife’s death benefit,” Halliday said. “I live on a pretty tight budget, and there’s no room for an increase like that. It felt like a slap in the face after more than 12 years here, that they weren’t willing to work with me, and that they didn’t seem interested in me being a part of their community. … I felt like Rodney Dangerfield, not getting any respect.” The community at 400 West Rich started to learn about rent increases when some tenants started to receive new leases in January, though few details were communicated by upper management, leaving an information gap in which rumors and fear propagated. “Because naturally people assume the worst-case scenario,” said Kris Howell, who originally opened Strongwater and served temporarily as director of operations at 400 West Rich earlier this year. “I hear a lot that people think the building is being sold, or it’s being demolished, or all kinds of other things.” Kim Kiehl, a consultant for Urban Smart Growth (USG), allowed that communication about the developer’s plans – including the factors driving the current rent increase – have not been well communicated, and she said that she was in the process of scheduling a public forum in which tenants and neighbors could engage in open dialogue with property management. Kiehl also said the developer had no plans to sell or tear down the building, and that 400 West Rich would continue to include artist studios, though more changes were likely in area, with USG also owning the buildings that currently house the Vanderelli Room and Chromedge Studios, as well as the adjacent vacant land.” https://www.matternews.org/culture/arts/we-knew-this-was-coming-changes-begin-to-hit-400-west-rich
March 14, 20232 yr I think this is where the city, developers, and the GCAC are going to need to work on keeping artist rents affordable and hold developers at bay in some respects. If they go the way of the Short North on rent with no concerted effort to keep artist rent largely affordable they risk losing what made Franklinton to begin with. I've said before that it's way too late for the SN but in the end, what it has become is not bad. Yes, it's not what it was, but it's an absolute asset to the city. We would be foolish to allow Franklinton to do the same though. Esepcially when the peninsula and downtown can bear the higher end markets for retail, etc. Franklinton has more than what the Short North could ever have in terms of maker space and I don't think that many if any other parts of the city could also support such a concentration of maker spaces like this so let's work to preserve it as best as we can.
March 14, 20232 yr 57 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I think this is where the city, developers, and the GCAC are going to need to work on keeping artist rents affordable and hold developers at bay in some respects. If they go the way of the Short North on rent with no concerted effort to keep artist rent largely affordable they risk losing what made Franklinton to begin with. I've said before that it's way too late for the SN but in the end, what it has become is not bad. Yes, it's not what it was, but it's an absolute asset to the city. We would be foolish to allow Franklinton to do the same though. Esepcially when the peninsula and downtown can bear the higher end markets for retail, etc. Franklinton has more than what the Short North could ever have in terms of maker space and I don't think that many if any other parts of the city could also support such a concentration of maker spaces like this so let's work to preserve it as best as we can. The articles does have this to say: Robbins said he is cognizant of this history, in which artists play a key role in revitalizing a neighborhood for developers before eventually being priced out of it, and that in response he has granted $100,000 in what he termed “scholarships” – essentially at-cost rent for 25 percent of his artist tenants, offered to those who are seen as having made notable contributions to the greater Franklinton arts community. Which I think is a good start, but I definitely agree with you that it needs to be an “all hands on deck” effort to support the artists here. While I think it’s good artists are talking about setting up shop deeper into Franklinton, it should be because they want to, not out of necessity. I think Kaufman had said something too about possibly providing a “residency” program for artists at Gravity, when he bought Idea Foundry. Would be nice to see more buildout of studio spaces over there too.
March 15, 20232 yr Below is a comment (long, sorry) that I saw on Reddit that yes is gossip, but I also think shines the most light on what exactly the situation is TL;DR - Rents are rising in general in the area, which is a concern, but this particular dust up seems to be specific to the (mis)management of 400 Rich https://www.reddit.com/r/Columbus/comments/11qpfp1/comment/jc5vf3z/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Quote Using a throw away because I still have a studio at 400, but I’m going to move out soon. Already gave my notice, but I would prefer to have no surprises + it’s better to be safe than sorry. There’s a lot of info this article doesn’t cover. Lance (who is a slum lord who has and had all kinds of lawsuits against him) has always done the bare minimum of repairs since he bought the building. There’s a constant rain of dust, a constant threat of leaks, no air conditioning on the first floor, and yet we put up with it because we don’t necessarily need anything more than a space to do our work whatever it might be. What that article doesn’t mention is Lance’s girlfriend, Bobby Goldman. He put her in charge of making changes to 400, and she’s an elitist NYC bitch, to put it mildly. The reason why there was a mass walkout of half the staff is because a little over a year ago Lance let Bobby make changes to Strongwater the restaurant that’s on the north end of the building. The long story short is she managed to piss off everyone and the chef quit. She was pulled off and Lance was told if she was ever brought back into a position of power here that some key people would immediately quit. There was a meeting a couple months ago when Lance was in town (he does not live here), and apparently a bunch of decisions were made were kept from them including Bobby coming back. So, half of management quit, and since then others have quit since. To get the idea of who Bobby Goldman is… just look up her name. The long story short was her husband died and she inherited his wealth and properties. She then went on Ashley Madison to screw married men, and because she was a woman in her 60’s I guess lots of places found this newsworthy so there’s a bunch of articles about it. She then took her experiences and wrote a book, and a broadway play called curvy widow about her experiences… which ok fine. I don’t care, I just think that’s a weird topic to hang one’s hat on. The rub is she hates Columbus and hates the people at 400. She has said that the artists at 400 are “fourth tier at best”, and when people here see her she doesn’t speak to them. Her apparent goal in raising the rent so high so suddenly is to force the artists out to get in what she would consider to be “better people”. She also wants to shut down Franklinton Friday, claiming that they lose $3000 every time we open, which is asinine. The people who once managed the studio gallery weren’t getting paid extra (oh and they weren’t getting paid well at all, and never had benefits), and 400 never provided anything for Franklinton Friday. No food, no security, nothing. The only difference between having the building open vs any other time is that there’s more people in the building. No idea where this supposed $3000 is going, but it’s not going towards the building or any events here. Oh side note, the street that runs north/south between Town and Rich along 400 is a private one. It doesn’t cost them anything to close it. There’s more than a few empty studios now, and I hear of more people planning to move out every week. There aren’t a lot of people who are willing to pay the cost of a nice apartment (some I’ve heard are going for around 1400 that are little more than a dusty large bedroom with no air conditioning). Especially since there are plenty of other spaces that are cheaper and nicer. The studio I’m moving to is a bit more of an increase, but $260 less than what I would pay if I wanted to stay here. Yes, it’s the natural life cycle of an under developed neighborhood to have artists move in, and then have artists get priced out over time as the neighbor becomes cool and trendy, but this is premature in my opinion. What I think will happen is in time after more people move out that 400 will try to walk back their rental prices because the people who can afford 500-1000+ for a bedroom size space aren’t the people who would rent at 400 or Chromedge (Lance owns that too, and the empty lots surrounding it). The artists who live and stay in and around Columbus often do so because the cost of living is low and it’s central to many other big cities, if they don’t want to have a home studio there are loads of other places to rent from. Hell, for what they are charging here I could rent a garage or a storefront and have better conditions than here. I’m not pessimistic though. The Franklinton Arts District existed before 400, and I’m confident it’ll be here after. There’s still many artists who live in the neighborhood and by nature we are very adaptable folks. There’s other art walks and other gallery studios in the city to check out if that’s something you’re into. I don’t think we will ever get back to a time like we had with the Short North, that trifecta of artists, performers, and cheap rent that allows for pop up shows that started it all doesn’t exist anymore, but there’s still places and spaces to see. This is annoying, but it’ll be fine. Edited March 15, 20232 yr by NW24HX
March 15, 20232 yr Just found the leasing info for the shared unit apartments for gravity. The prices for the shared units varies from $685 to around $895 with internet and utilities all included. They also have in unit washer and dryers. The 5 bedroom one has 4 bathrooms. They also have 4 bedroom 3 bath shared units. The shared units also come furnished and you have access to the pool and other amenities. If I was young and wanted to live in or close to Downtown, I would probably go for that.
March 15, 20232 yr They come with cleaning too?? That’s really not a bad price, considering everything is included. Should really help with housing costs for a lot of people. A friend who recently toured them said the BRs were about the size of a walk-in closet, but that was pretty much a given, I suppose. I don’t think the intended market for these units is people who plan on spending a large amount of time in their rooms.
March 15, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, amped91 said: They come with cleaning too?? That’s really not a bad price, considering everything is included. Should really help with housing costs for a lot of people. A friend who recently toured them said the BRs were about the size of a walk-in closet, but that was pretty much a given, I suppose. I don’t think the intended market for these units is people who plan on spending a large amount of time in their rooms. Yeah, I’m pretty sure these are mostly for people who enjoy being out and about. College kids straight out of college, who are used to shared space are probably the main target. I would love to see Kaufman build something on campus, along high. I think building something similar with some height, would go a long way on campus.
March 15, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, VintageLife said: Just found the leasing info for the shared unit apartments for gravity. The prices for the shared units varies from $685 to around $895 with internet and utilities all included. They also have in unit washer and dryers. The 5 bedroom one has 4 bathrooms. They also have 4 bedroom 3 bath shared units. The shared units also come furnished and you have access to the pool and other amenities. If I was young and wanted to live in or close to Downtown, I would probably go for that. Now this is affordable housing done right.
March 15, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, amped91 said: They come with cleaning too?? That’s really not a bad price, considering everything is included. Should really help with housing costs for a lot of people. A friend who recently toured them said the BRs were about the size of a walk-in closet, but that was pretty much a given, I suppose. I don’t think the intended market for these units is people who plan on spending a large amount of time in their rooms. That would seal the deal for me if I was a youngin' lol. Those bedrooms remind me of my own- just enough room for a queen size bed and not much more(at least I have two bedroom closets and built in dressers lol.) This a good thing as I am sure there is a market for it. *and utilities included! Edited March 15, 20232 yr by Toddguy
March 15, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, amped91 said: They come with cleaning too?? It’s twice a week also, so that is even crazier. Seems like a great deal, and hopefully it is successful and we get some more housing like it.
March 15, 20232 yr 42 minutes ago, VintageLife said: It’s twice a week also, so that is even crazier. Seems like a great deal, and hopefully it is successful and we get some more housing like it. Or is it once every 2 weeks? Bi-weekly could be either.
March 15, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Pablo said: Or is it once every 2 weeks? Bi-weekly could be either. You’re probably right, that makes more sense. Edited March 15, 20232 yr by VintageLife
March 15, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Pablo said: Or is it once every 2 weeks? Bi-weekly could be either. One of my absolute favorite things to do at my work when I do technical writing for my clients is use the terms "bi-weekly" or "bi-monthly" as opposed to "twice a" or "every other". This way if it means "twice a" and you forget to do one, you can tell that auditor it actually means "every other" and you were just doing it extra because you are a real go-getter.
March 16, 20232 yr The development proposal for 640 W Town St will be back before the EFRB next week, this time with some slight changes in the massing of the primary building and an addition of one extra unit. The vacant C-store that had occupied the site has been demolished since the last time this project was before the board. Five story, 42 unit apartment building: Newly constructed three unit building next to rendering of rehabbed, existing SF.
March 16, 20232 yr 29 minutes ago, amped91 said: The development proposal for 640 W Town St will be back before the EFRB next week, this time with some slight changes in the massing of the primary building and an addition of one extra unit. The vacant C-store that had occupied the site has been demolished since the last time this project was before the board. Five story, 42 unit apartment building: Newly constructed three unit building next to rendering of rehabbed, existing SF. Having parking at the front along town is so dumb and looks like crap. Overall it’s decent and hopefully gets started.
March 16, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Having parking at the front along town is so dumb and looks like crap. Overall it’s decent and hopefully gets started. Yeah, it looks kinda weird. The original proposal didn’t have any at the front. Makes me wonder if they had to change it d/t vision clearance with the side street and 315 ramp right next to it?
March 19, 20232 yr On 3/5/2023 at 12:11 PM, amped91 said: It’s for the Harriet’s Hope building https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2022/09/23/project-to-house-trafficking-victims-secures-funding-to-move-forward/69512923007/ Snatched a couple from the Harriet's Hope project a little earlier
March 20, 20232 yr An explanation for the delay, and the massing change, from the Dispatch: 'The narrative has flipped' on Franklinton as developer proposes new apartment complex “The $11 million apartment complex, to be called Whitechapel, would include three ground-level apartments that open to the street, topped by 39 apartments, most of them one-bedroom with a few two-bedroom units. Most apartments would include balconies. Arch City proposed the project last year before discovering that the Ohio Department of Transportation had a right-of-way on the west side of the site. "ODOT said you can remove the right-of-way but it would have taken two years, so we shifted the building a little to the east and north," said Higgins. "We were able to keep it the same size and number of units. All we lost was time and money." Higgins said he hopes to start work on Whitechapel this year, assuming the project is approved. The East Franklinton Review Board is scheduled to discuss the proposal at its Wednesday meeting.“ https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2023/03/20/new-apartment-complex-sign-of-growth-for-franklinton-area/70020311007/
March 20, 20232 yr It's partly because it's an awful rendering, but that design looks pretty bleak Do we know what the white material is? I assume cheap fiber cement ... Some kind of cornice or other element at the top would go a long way
March 21, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, NW24HX said: It's partly because it's an awful rendering, but that design looks pretty bleak Do we know what the white material is? I assume cheap fiber cement ... Some kind of cornice or other element at the top would go a long way If you zoom in the white almost looks like brick, which wouldn’t look awful.
March 21, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, VintageLife said: If you zoom in the white almost looks like brick, which wouldn’t look awful. That or vinyl lap is my guess.
March 21, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, NW24HX said: It's partly because it's an awful rendering, but that design looks pretty bleak Do we know what the white material is? I assume cheap fiber cement ... Some kind of cornice or other element at the top would go a long way https://www.columbus.gov/planning/efrb/
March 21, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, amped91 said: https://www.columbus.gov/planning/efrb/ Surprised its actually quality lap and not vinyl.
March 23, 20232 yr Crews started clearing the trees out of the lot tonite along Rich St at McDowell- where River and Rich 2 is planned. I had some interesting timing- I just so happened to be on Rich headed downtown and noticed this big boy was about to come down...
March 23, 20232 yr It does suck to see mature trees coming down, but the silver lining is River and Rich 2 could get underway soon... I asked one of the guys that was with the crew if he knew why they were cutting them down, and he said "new apartments". I can't remember, has River and Rich 2 received final approval?
March 23, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: It does suck to see mature trees coming down, but the silver lining is River and Rich 2 could get underway soon... I asked one of the guys that was with the crew if he knew why they were cutting them down, and he said "new apartments". I can't remember, has River and Rich 2 received final approval? I love the first phase - hoping to see that adaptive reuse project take place though. It really is a nice little community with a unique aesthetic - definitely could use more pedestrian activity but I think that will come with better weather/more development.
March 23, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: It does suck to see mature trees coming down, but the silver lining is River and Rich 2 could get underway soon... I asked one of the guys that was with the crew if he knew why they were cutting them down, and he said "new apartments". I can't remember, has River and Rich 2 received final approval? I’m like 95% sure it has. I’ll try to look it up later. I am glad it’s looking like it’ll getting off the ground soon though.
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