December 20, 20231 yr This one had a super slow start, but the MCE project is really starting to take shape now.
December 27, 20231 yr On 9/1/2023 at 10:09 AM, Luvcbus said: ODOT redeveloping Franklinton facility in $90M project "The Ohio Department of Transportation has undertaken a $90 million project in Franklinton. ODOT is replacing all the buildings at 1600 W. Broad St. that today house the central garage and sign shop with new facilities. When finished the site will be home to 11 buildings, including the new District 6 Franklinton outpost. Materials will stay at the Grove City outpost, but trucks and workers that had been there will move to the new Franklinton location. Demolition work started earlier this year and construction on the new facilities will end in the fall of 2026." https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/08/31/odot-franklinton-redevelopment.html Quick look at the ODOT Franklinton Facility redevelopment- Looks like construction has started on three of the new buildings so far. From the on ramp to 70W from Broad
December 28, 20231 yr 9 hours ago, CbusOrBust said: Quick look at the ODOT Franklinton Facility redevelopment- Looks like construction has started on three of the new buildings so far. From the on ramp to 70W from Broad I've been told the buildings will be open to the point that they'll only have cubicles - no offices.
December 30, 20231 yr Got a couple looks of a few of the projects currently underway along McDowell St Gravity Greenhouse McDowell Place Future restaurant Prim Mason *For reference, Prim Mason can be seen in the rendering below. It's the building with the black peaked roof to the left of the Gravity sign
December 31, 20231 yr New ADAMH Crisis Center on Harmon And a few of the new freeway as seen from the Harmon Rd curve
January 8, 20241 yr Looks like the spaghetti warehouse building will be saved! They don’t have anything really cool, so I don’t expect much from this, but I’m glad to see it saved and I’m excited to see what it will become. Edited January 8, 20241 yr by VintageLife
January 8, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, VintageLife said: Looks like the spaghetti warehouse building will be saved! They don’t have anything really cool, so I don’t expect much from this, but I’m glad to see it saved and I’m excited to see what it will become. It says it will redevelop the existing parcel so with the included structured parking language I don't see the building being saved.
January 8, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, aderwent said: It says it will redevelop the existing parcel so with the included structured parking language I don't see the building being saved. Yeah, I wasn’t sure if that meant it was saved, I guess it would probably say something about restoring the building. Kind of a shame, especially since none of the buildings I’ve seen them do look good. If it comes up to broad st, that could make it okay though.
January 8, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: Yeah, I wasn’t sure if that meant it was saved, I guess it would probably say something about restoring the building. Kind of a shame, especially since none of the buildings I’ve seen them do look good. If it comes up to broad st, that could make it okay though. Email the commission?
January 8, 20241 yr 26 minutes ago, columbus17 said: Email the commission? I’ll wait and see if it is on this months agenda. I doubt they will force them to save it. It wasn’t great to begin with and has sat empty with a hole in the roof for 3 years or so. Like I said, if they bring it up to broad I’m probably okay with it. Would much rather see it restored though.
January 8, 20241 yr There's plenty of room on that site to build structured parking in back, restore the warehouse building into event/restaurant/bar space and have a multi-story mixed-use building lining High.
January 9, 20241 yr The Finance Fund, land trust building townhomes in Franklinton The Finance Fund, the Central Ohio Community Land Trust and the city are building 19 new townhomes in Franklinton. Units will be available this summer. The land trust own the land, allowing the homes to remain affordable in the long term. The project spans two half-acre corner lots: one at the corner of Rich and Skidmore streets and the other at the corner of Grubb Street and Sullivant Avenue, which is across the street from city-owned Dodge Park. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/09/finance-fund.html & https://columbusunderground.com/for-sale-townhome-development-moving-forward-in-franklinton-bw1/ Ugh, more AI renderings... "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, ColDayMan said: The Finance Fund, land trust building townhomes in Franklinton The Finance Fund, the Central Ohio Community Land Trust and the city are building 19 new townhomes in Franklinton. Units will be available this summer. The land trust own the land, allowing the homes to remain affordable in the long term. The project spans two half-acre corner lots: one at the corner of Rich and Skidmore streets and the other at the corner of Grubb Street and Sullivant Avenue, which is across the street from city-owned Dodge Park. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/09/finance-fund.html Ugh, more AI renderings... I'm scared - the AI is getting good... real good.
January 10, 20241 yr On 1/9/2024 at 10:16 AM, ColDayMan said: The Finance Fund, land trust building townhomes in Franklinton The Finance Fund, the Central Ohio Community Land Trust and the city are building 19 new townhomes in Franklinton. Units will be available this summer. The land trust own the land, allowing the homes to remain affordable in the long term. The project spans two half-acre corner lots: one at the corner of Rich and Skidmore streets and the other at the corner of Grubb Street and Sullivant Avenue, which is across the street from city-owned Dodge Park. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/09/finance-fund.html & https://columbusunderground.com/for-sale-townhome-development-moving-forward-in-franklinton-bw1/ Ugh, more AI renderings... Had a few extra minutes earlier, so I checked both sites associated with this^ project and was surprised to see perimeter fencing already up at both sites and machines gathering at the Rich and Skidmore site- Sullivant and Grubb Another one from Sullivant and Grubb with the new freeway rising in the distance Rich and Skidmore
January 13, 20241 yr New tower crane alert, coming soon to Gravity 3: https://ibb.co/6bwsBFs (I dunno know it’s not been letting me upload images…I still have the storage 🙃)
January 13, 20241 yr 28 minutes ago, amped91 said: New tower crane alert, coming soon to Gravity 3: https://ibb.co/6bwsBFs (I dunno know it’s not been letting me upload images…I still have the storage 🙃) You can use the ibb image link to embed the image vs linking it.
January 16, 20241 yr Proposal Calls for 15-Story Tower, Demolition of Former Spaghetti Warehouse Building A preliminary site plan application has been submitted to the City of Columbus for the redevelopment of the former Spaghetti Warehouse building in Franklinton. The proposal, from local developer The Robert Weiler Company, calls for tearing down the historic structure and putting up a 15-story mixed-use building in its place. https://columbusunderground.com/proposal-calls-for-15-story-tower-demolition-of-former-spaghetti-warehouse-building-bw1/
January 17, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, columbus17 said: Proposal Calls for 15-Story Tower, Demolition of Former Spaghetti Warehouse Building A preliminary site plan application has been submitted to the City of Columbus for the redevelopment of the former Spaghetti Warehouse building in Franklinton. The proposal, from local developer The Robert Weiler Company, calls for tearing down the historic structure and putting up a 15-story mixed-use building in its place. https://columbusunderground.com/proposal-calls-for-15-story-tower-demolition-of-former-spaghetti-warehouse-building-bw1/ I’ll hold out judgement until we see some renderings and it is 100% a 15 story, but if that is what’s replacing it, I think I’m good with it getting demoed. The 577 space parking garage seems like overkill, but whatever I guess. Edited January 17, 20241 yr by VintageLife
January 17, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I’ll hold out judgement until we see some renderings and it is 100% a 15 story, but if that is what’s replacing it, I think I’m good with it getting demoed. The 577 space parking garage seems like overkill, but whatever I guess. I'd still like to see a portion of it saved - even part of the building.
January 17, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, columbus17 said: I'd still like to see a portion of it saved - even part of the building. 100%! Hopefully the historic preservation people can get them to incorporate it somehow. It would be a shame to lose another building from the 1800’s
January 17, 20241 yr I like the dig at the 'warehouse district' jagoffs who spent 6 weeks tearing down an 'unstable, imminent danger to public safety' re: the Naughten.
January 17, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I like the dig at the 'warehouse district' jagoffs who spent 6 weeks tearing down an 'unstable, imminent danger to public safety' re: the Naughten. Exactly. The SW site is about 3 acres, like 2/3rds the footprint size of the old City Center garage. Look at the size of 250 High in comparison. As I said before, that's more than big enough for a 15-story, garage and the existing building. This seems like another completely unnecessary demolition. Edited January 17, 20241 yr by jonoh81
January 17, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, DTCL11 said: I like the dig at the 'warehouse district' jagoffs who spent 6 weeks tearing down an 'unstable, imminent danger to public safety' re: the Naughten. Walker was not happy about that one. Rightfully so.
January 17, 20241 yr Watch the city put up a fight over the demo of this building with a replacement plan while they let the Naughten and Main Bar be demo'd with no plan. That'd be a fun plot twist. Push out a developer with a plan but roll for those with none.
January 17, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, VintageLife said: I’ll hold out judgement until we see some renderings and it is 100% a 15 story, but if that is what’s replacing it, I think I’m good with it getting demoed. The 577 space parking garage seems like overkill, but whatever I guess. Pretty much my feeling on this. 534 units and 577 parking spaces will be difficult to fit in with the old building sitting smack dab right in the middle of the site IMO. I don't have a great love of the existing building. They had better bring a decent site plan and design though.
January 17, 20241 yr Interesting it's Weiler. They're known more as a suburban developer - they developed Polaris. They did have there hand in the Broad & High project (northeast corner) with Casto as I recall.
January 17, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, Pablo said: Interesting it's Weiler. They're known more as a suburban developer - they developed Polaris. They did have there hand in the Broad & High project (northeast corner) with Casto as I recall. That’s why I’m not super excited about this project. They also had a hand in Highpoint, which looks terrible. Moody Nolan does great work, but obviously they are limited to what the developers want, so hopefully we see something soon. Edited January 17, 20241 yr by VintageLife
January 17, 20241 yr Just now, VintageLife said: That’s why I’m not super excited about this project. They also had a hand in Highpoint, which looks terrible. On Highpoint I believe Weiler was a leasing agent and not involved in design. That was developed by Carter out of Atlanta who also developed the Banks in Cincinnati.
January 17, 20241 yr Even if there's a decent plan in place, it would be disappointing to see the old warehouse go. The frustrating part is seeing so much parking catered to the building. There's two massive parking garages built on the other side of the warehouse with the two new ones on the Peninsula and the Gravity one. If there's a way we can connect those garages under the train tracks with the new proposal I would find it a huge success (I know the underpass on W Capital St is still there). The wall on W State St could be torn down to allow easy flow to the garages located on W State St. In my opinion, I would much rather see two separate buildings on the North and South Side of the warehouse, preserving the current structure and having minimal parking included on those buildings while using the surrounding garages as parking for the residents. Even better, having a commuter train running on the existing tracks with Station 67 being used as the transit center.
January 17, 20241 yr 26 minutes ago, KyleofColumbus said: Even if there's a decent plan in place, it would be disappointing to see the old warehouse go. The frustrating part is seeing so much parking catered to the building. There's two massive parking garages built on the other side of the warehouse with the two new ones on the Peninsula and the Gravity one. If there's a way we can connect those garages under the train tracks with the new proposal I would find it a huge success (I know the underpass on W Capital St is still there). The wall on W State St could be torn down to allow easy flow to the garages located on W State St. In my opinion, I would much rather see two separate buildings on the North and South Side of the warehouse, preserving the current structure and having minimal parking included on those buildings while using the surrounding garages as parking for the residents. Even better, having a commuter train running on the existing tracks with Station 67 being used as the transit center. I’m wondering if the parking is to bring the building above the tracks so it’s more attractive for renters? It will be a little less noisy above the tracks, so that’s all I can think.
January 17, 20241 yr I’m also wondering if the parking relates to an amenity or retail option being built on the property. I had an out of state friend looking at the property for their outdoor bar. It’s an extremely popular concept in their state and they want to expand. They loved the location because it was between two walls to cancel our potential noise complaints (they have live music, outdoor movies, volleyball, etc). At the time, the property owners were being really difficult to work with so they backed out. That said, I can see a similar business having the same idea and liking that location for the same reason.
January 17, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Toddguy said: Pretty much my feeling on this. 534 units and 577 parking spaces will be difficult to fit in with the old building sitting smack dab right in the middle of the site IMO. I don't have a great love of the existing building. They had better bring a decent site plan and design though. The Goodale parking garage is what, 6-7 levels with like 700 spaces, and it takes up just 0.8 acres, which would be less than 1/3rd of the SW site. 250 High is 12 stories and takes up only about 0.7 acres. The parking lots in front of and behind the SW building are both larger than either of those sites, at about 0.9 acres each. You could actually wrap part of a 15-story around part of the SW building and get a full acre or more, which would be larger, again, than the adjacent 12-story site for Gravity 2.0. Here's a pretty easy site plan: -Use the front parking lot and part of the west parking lot for a 1-acre plot for the 15-story. This building would have retail-restaurant-bar space along Broad. -A Broad Street auto entrance would go on the east side along the railroad tracks leading to the back where the large parking garage could go. The garage would have access from both Broad and State. -There is actually enough room in the large State Street lot to even build housing or retail to hide the garage behind it, thereby activating that section of State Street. -Furthermore, I believe the tunnel under the railroad tracks still exists, which would connect the Peninsula garage to this site as well, providing potential for even more accessible parking. -The SW building would be fully renovated into event, restaurant or bar space. Perhaps even some kind of West Side market, with the remaining west side parking lot be converted into a large patio/bar area similar to what they did at Jackie O's. Some of you are really underestimating the size of this site and the obvious potential. There is no reason the warehouse building must be torn down, and if anything, keeping and renovating it would create an asset.
January 17, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, jonoh81 said: The Goodale parking garage is what, 6-7 levels with like 700 spaces, and it takes up just 0.8 acres, which would be less than 1/3rd of the SW site. 250 High is 12 stories and takes up only about 0.7 acres. The parking lots in front of and behind the SW building are both larger than either of those sites, at about 0.9 acres each. You could actually wrap part of a 15-story around part of the SW building and get a full acre or more, which would be larger, again, than the adjacent 12-story site for Gravity 2.0. Here's a pretty easy site plan: -Use the front parking lot and part of the west parking lot for a 1-acre plot for the 15-story. This building would have retail-restaurant-bar space along Broad. -A Broad Street auto entrance would go on the east side along the railroad tracks leading to the back where the large parking garage could go. The garage would have access from both Broad and State. -There is actually enough room in the large State Street lot to even build housing or retail to hide the garage behind it, thereby activating that section of State Street. -Furthermore, I believe the tunnel under the railroad tracks still exists, which would connect the Peninsula garage to this site as well, providing potential for even more accessible parking. -The SW building would be fully renovated into event, restaurant or bar space. Perhaps even some kind of West Side market, with the remaining west side parking lot be converted into a large patio/bar area similar to what they did at Jackie O's. Some of you are really underestimating the size of this site and the obvious potential. There is no reason the warehouse building must be torn down, and if anything, keeping and renovating it would create an asset. Yes it could probably be done but is there a corporate will to do so? They probably don't want to deal with it and want a clean slate. Demo would be easier. I understand your concerns and frustrations. It is something to push for I guess. The articles did state they are seeking demolition so it will likely be a very uphill battle IMO. *I do think you may be overestimating the southern section of the site and it's ability to hold a nearly 600 car garage without a partial demo. JMHO when looking at the site. Edited January 17, 20241 yr by Toddguy
January 17, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, Toddguy said: Yes it could probably be done but is there a corporate will to do so? They probably don't want to deal with it and want a clean slate. Demo would be easier. I understand your concerns and frustrations. It is something to push for I guess. The articles did state they are seeking demolition so it will likely be a very uphill battle IMO. *I do think you may be overestimating the southern section of the site and it's ability to hold a nearly 600 car garage without a partial demo. JMHO when looking at the site. There is no probably about it, it could absolutely happen that way in some form with the space they have even with the existing building. Demolition is lazy, and the building itself does not stand in the way of either proposed project with the right layout. I am not overestimating the southern lot size. It is larger than the Goodale Garage site, which again is like 700 spaces, well over 100 more than what is being proposed. But this is not really an argument of what could be done or what should be done, but whether the city will once again roll over and just allow whatever is being proposed. God forbid Columbus maintain more than a handful of its old buildings and incorporate them into architecurally interesting projects. Here is the basic layout I was just talking about. Red is the 15-story, Green is the parking garage, yellow is the patio/outdoor event space, Orange is the SW building, Pink is the Broad entrance and Black are garage entrances. Edited January 17, 20241 yr by jonoh81
January 17, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, jonoh81 said: There is no probably about it, it could absolutely happen that way in some form with the space they have even with the existing building. Demolition is lazy, and the building itself does not stand in the way of either proposed project with the right layout. I am not overestimating the southern lot size. It is larger than the Goodale Garage site, which again is like 700 spaces, well over 100 more than what is being proposed. But this is not really an argument of what could be done or what should be done, but whether the city will once again roll over and just allow whatever is being proposed. God forbid Columbus maintain more than a handful of its old buildings and incorporate them into architecurally interesting projects. The city will probably roll over-this is Cbus. And I am a not as invested in this as I am not a particular fan of this particular old building. *shrugs*
January 17, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, Toddguy said: The city will probably roll over-this is Cbus. And I am a not as invested in this as I am not a particular fan of this particular old building. *shrugs* You should be. We should strive to have a city of architectural heritage and interest beyond cookie cutter 5 over 1s. We should be able to see the potential of these buildings beyond their current state. Look at what happened to the old power plant in the Arena District. Adaptive reuse should always be the first option before demolition is ever considered. You may not particularly like the building as it is now, but do you think it has less potential value than the featureless parking garage that may replace it, especially where there are already multiple other ones within a block? Edited January 17, 20241 yr by jonoh81
January 18, 20241 yr Weiler Co. to partner with Spaghetti Warehouse ownership on 15-story West Broad tower 😂 "Between Gravity and the Peninsula, this site is the missing link," Weiler told me. "There isn't a better location in Columbus." Restaurant leaders Doug Pak and Ron Reynolds are part of the redevelopment team for the Broad Street site, and Weiler said the project would involve moving Spaghetti Warehouse back. The owners would open a different Italian eatery concept on High Street, Weiler said. There will likely be other retail in the West Broad Street project, Weiler said, but Spaghetti Warehouse would be the main tenant. "The building is already partially falling down," Weiler said. "We hope to reuse some of the materials. We want to keep some of the history."
January 18, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Weiler Co. to partner with Spaghetti Warehouse ownership on 15-story West Broad tower 😂 "Between Gravity and the Peninsula, this site is the missing link," Weiler told me. "There isn't a better location in Columbus." Restaurant leaders Doug Pak and Ron Reynolds are part of the redevelopment team for the Broad Street site, and Weiler said the project would involve moving Spaghetti Warehouse back. The owners would open a different Italian eatery concept on High Street, Weiler said. There will likely be other retail in the West Broad Street project, Weiler said, but Spaghetti Warehouse would be the main tenant. "The building is already partially falling down," Weiler said. "We hope to reuse some of the materials. We want to keep some of the history." What a sh!tshow. Excuses, excuses, excuses. As much as I don't like him, DeHayes would've been a much better developer for this project.
January 18, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, columbus17 said: What a sh!tshow. Excuses, excuses, excuses. As much as I don't like him, DeHayes would've been a much better developer for this project. It would just take 15 years for it to finish haha
January 18, 20241 yr "Restaurant leaders Doug Pak and Ron Reynolds are part of the redevelopment team for the Broad Street site, and Weiler said the project would involve moving Spaghetti Warehouse back. The owners would open a different Italian eatery concept on High Street, Weiler said. Wow this is a mess, but that's a welcome surprise at least. The new SW is a complete disaster, and I'm glad they've recognized that sooner than later That said, at least a portion of the building should still be preserved. As others have pointed out this site is huge, there's more than enough room for a parking garage, tower, and an architecturally significant chunk of the existing building Edited January 18, 20241 yr by NW24HX
January 18, 20241 yr At this point I'm a bit indifferent if they save the entirety of the original building, or just a portion of it. It sounds like they may be able to keep some of it and incorporate a return of SW someday to the site. In terms of adding/returning another restaurant to an area that is and will continue to blow up with more apartments and residential units and population, I'm all for it. The site itself is quite unique, plenty of options depending on the various visions/directions it could go. I personally would like to see them activate both the Broad Street side AND the State Street side with commercial space. There is a great opportunity to add commercial to State Street connecting the Peninsula, which will have the new PINS a few blocks east and all the activity over at Gravity/Land Grant. A 15-story building on the Broad side will line up with newly built Gravity 2.0 building (block views but hey that's how growing cities work, it's a good "problem" to have IMO) But I think there's also opportunity to push the building back and maybe put the 15 stories more on the State Street side to stagger between the already existing new buildings in the area. Heck, maybe even a 15 story on both sides with SW tucked in the middle. It would be great if the SW building could be magically picked up and placed more street front and not just smack dab in the middle of this huge lot. Building around it is quite a hassle. If they save the building and it's completely built up around, you won't see it from any kind of street presence, and it will almost be like a hidden pocket surrounded by all new buildings and parking decks. To that point, for rail/noise purposes, I would think they would want to build the garages up just above the tracks so any apartments are above that line.
January 18, 20241 yr 45 minutes ago, Gnoraa said: The site itself is quite unique, plenty of options depending on the various visions/directions it could go. I personally would like to see them activate both the Broad Street side AND the State Street side with commercial space 100% this! That area deserves to have some sort of retail and it would be great for Franklinton and the Peninsula. I have a feeling the parking garage will be behind the 15 story and will back up to State st and we won’t have any type of street interaction. might not be a bad thing to reach out to the commission about, once this gets revealed.
January 18, 20241 yr Some more info in the CU article. Restaurant Owner Involved in Plan to Redevelop Former Spaghetti Warehouse Site Yesterday, CU spoke with developer Skip Weiler, President of the Robert Weiler Company, to get more details on the project. He explained that the Kelley family – also longtime developers in Central Ohio – and the owners of the Spaghetti Warehouse restaurant chain are partners in the endeavor. The group that owns the restaurant does not actually own the building, he said. “They’ve been a tenant in the building all these years [and] they have the right to buy the building,” Weiler said. “They’re bringing us with them to buy [it], so our new group will buy that building…we’re all partners, and will make collective decisions on everything.” “We’re in the very preliminary stages,” he added. “We’re really trying to understand the city’s requirements and what we can and can’t do, so once we know that, we can finalize our design. As for a timeline, Weiler said he’d like to start work before the end of the year, but that a 2025 start to construction is probably more likely.
January 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, aderwent said: So the fifteen includes parking. Will probably have the commercial on each end with garage access in middle. Seems like the garage will take up almost the complete footprint of the building.
January 22, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, columbus17 said: So the fifteen includes parking. Will probably have the commercial on each end with garage access in middle. Seems like the garage will take up almost the complete footprint of the building. As long as there is commercial on broad and State I think it will be okay. I still have no expectation of this building looking good.
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