45 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

 

Was there a proposal for this space? I'm drawing a blank if there was. 

No proposal yet.

1 hour ago, TH3BUDDHA said:

Also, Pizzuti has put up signage around the Graham Ford lot.  This has to be pretty recent as I've driven by there not too long ago:

 

 

 

 

This happened I believe on Friday, I drove past Thursday and it wasn't there, then again on Sunday and noticed it for the first time.

So are they advertising space in a yet-to-be-announced project or are they fishing for potential investors in one that doesn't exist yet?

12 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

So are they advertising space in a yet-to-be-announced project or are they fishing for potential investors in one that doesn't exist yet?

 

Looks like they are fishing. 

17 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Looks like they are fishing. 

 

That was my guess too, it doesn't appear anywhere on their website or on any land lease sites so they are likely casting a line to see what they catch. Sometimes developers will do this to gauge of area interest as well as a kicking off point for large site development like this. It is a lot easier to assemble a site plan and design if you have a "keystone" piece as opposed to just looking at a blank slate and trying to build something marketable. What is unfortunate about this strategy though is the development scale and form will be almost completely dependent on whoever reaches out to them and commits. 

Edited October 30, 20195 yr by DevolsDance

The thing I like about the Pizzuti property, is mainly it's location.  I know much of the initial "buzz" will be more East where CDDC will be building out all the land near the river and museums.  You have Casto on the South end of the peninsula, Kauffman with their Gravity on the Northern end and a bunch of NRI owned land in between that inevitably will be developed with time.  Pizzuti however starts to push development further West down Broad Street on the other side of 315.  That along with Mt. Carmel being torn down in future years and becoming ripe for development as well, I think this area helps propel the momentum more West, which is much needed.

 

I've marked up a map displaying the current standings.  (BTW I hate how google earth does not have the updated completed Vets Museum or Dorian park with COSI).  I've also marked out in yellow Broad, Sullivant and Souder.  I feel Broad will benefit the most obviously from the continual investment going West, however I think there is some trickle down potential for Sullivant to slowly Benefit from Franklinton's cleanup as well.  I also think that the parking lots on the North side of Broad across from the current Mt. Carmel site are ripe for future development.  Souder acts as such a connector across the river over to Spring street and the future Crew Stadium and Arena District.  With Cover My Meds building right off that access road, I only see this street becoming more vital to the area.  It will definitely be fun to watch the next 10-20 years as this area really fills in and cleans up.

In terms of Souder, that's been a fun thought experiment for me lately as well. I'm not sure its thought of as a gateway or corridor (yet) as much as it could be but I hope that the city, developers,  and commission come together with a vision of how to make those several blocks into a proper gateway.  

 

As for gravity. I've been spending a fair amount of time there and as much as I love it, I can't help but go back to a big complaint of mine on stand alone garages.  Even if they had put a green roof or solar panels on it (although preferably a couple floors of additional units would have been preferred), the garage remains a massive part of the project and seems underutilized when looking at the project as a whole. It's a minor, yet major detail that I think could have pushed it over the finish line into territory that's relatively unheard of in many places. 

 

In addition to the areas mapped out above, NRIs area is outlined here. Hopefully the feel the pressure soon to sell more land or finally develop it. (Note, this is a bit dated as NRI sold a plot For Gravity 2.0) edit: And some of the plots that are surrounded by NRI have since been acquired giving them all but a couple tiny plots in that massive block. 

 

 

Edited October 31, 20195 yr by DTCL11

A grainy Instagram photo, but here's a look at River and Rich:

I had lunch in Franklinton today and parked in the garage over there. While leaving, I spotted some work at the site of the second phase of River and Rich:

 

 

The demolition of Mt Carmel West has begun.

Already?

11 hours ago, jonoh81 said:

The demolition of Mt Carmel West has begun.

 

I saw the giant pile of dirt (I didnt get to snap a pic). The way they are demolishing is it unlike any method over seen before and couldn't find anything online on the method either. It's been underway for about a month now with the giant mound adjacent to the building so Bobcats can get in and out of the various floors. 

3 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

 

I saw the giant pile of dirt (I didnt get to snap a pic). The way they are demolishing is it unlike any method over seen before and couldn't find anything online on the method either. It's been underway for about a month now with the giant mound adjacent to the building so Bobcats can get in and out of the various floors. 

 

I’ve actually seen that before in Cbus; awkward but it gets the job done.

Project Update: Mount Carmel West Development in Franklinton

 

 

Construction is scheduled to start this spring on 14 single family homes along a one-block stretch of South Hartford Avenue, on land formerly used as a parking lot for Mount Carmel West. At the southern end of the block, on State Street, a four-unit townhome building is planned.

 

The new homes will mark the first new construction on the campus since Mount Carmel Health System announced its plan to relocate the hospital on the site from Franklinton to Grove City.

 

Demolition of the main hospital buildings is ongoing and will continue into the spring or early summer of 2020, according to Mount Carmel officials. Further clearing of the site to ready it for development will likely extend into late summer or fall, at which time work could start on the first new buildings in the central part of the campus.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/project-update-mount-carmel-west-bw1

 

Drone view of demolition work from The Dispatch.

 

 

https://www.dispatch.com/photogallery/OH/20191203/PHOTOGALLERY/111509997/PH/1

Preliminary Plan Review application for the 12-story Gravity 2 building submitted today:

 

 

It also looks like they will be obtaining their final certificate of approval at today's East Franklinton Review Board meeting. Hopefully this means we will see some construction activity kicking off soon. 

Edited December 17, 20195 yr by cbussoccer
Add additional point.

Project Update: Mount Carmel West Development in Franklinton

 

 

Construction is scheduled to start this spring on 14 single family homes along a one-block stretch of South Hartford Avenue, on land formerly used as a parking lot for Mount Carmel West. At the southern end of the block, on State Street, a four-unit townhome building is planned.

 

The new homes will mark the first new construction on the campus since Mount Carmel Health System announced its plan to relocate the hospital on the site from Franklinton to Grove City.

 

Demolition of the main hospital buildings is ongoing and will continue into the spring or early summer of 2020, according to Mount Carmel officials. Further clearing of the site to ready it for development will likely extend into late summer or fall, at which time work could start on the first new buildings in the central part of the campus.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/project-update-mount-carmel-west-bw1

 

 

 

 

 

 

I took some destructoporn shots of the site about 3 weeks ago but it's basically the same stuff already posted here.

Edited December 17, 20195 yr by GCrites80s

The Gravity II project has also submitted material and foundation applications to the EFRB for final approval tomorrow.

 

Speaking of which, the application reveals the final height of the 12 story tower will hit 156' and the garage will top out at 55'. Should stand out quite well in Franklinton pulling the skyline across the river nicely.

11 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

Speaking of which, the application reveals the final height of the 12 story tower will hit 156' and the garage will top out at 55'. Should stand out quite well in Franklinton pulling the skyline across the river nicely.

 

Wow, that really will stand out.

 

For comparison, the High & Long building is 153' tall according to Emporis. 

 

 

And the DoubleTree Hotel is 162':

 

On 12/17/2019 at 3:05 PM, GCrites80s said:

Project Update: Mount Carmel West Development in Franklinton

 

 

Construction is scheduled to start this spring on 14 single family homes along a one-block stretch of South Hartford Avenue, on land formerly used as a parking lot for Mount Carmel West. At the southern end of the block, on State Street, a four-unit townhome building is planned.

 

The new homes will mark the first new construction on the campus since Mount Carmel Health System announced its plan to relocate the hospital on the site from Franklinton to Grove City.

 

Demolition of the main hospital buildings is ongoing and will continue into the spring or early summer of 2020, according to Mount Carmel officials. Further clearing of the site to ready it for development will likely extend into late summer or fall, at which time work could start on the first new buildings in the central part of the campus.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/project-update-mount-carmel-west-bw1

 

 

 

 

 

 

I took some destructoporn shots of the site about 3 weeks ago but it's basically the same stuff already posted here.

Damn I hate to be a downer but doesn't this remind you of the Murrah Federal Building? Kinda creeps me out-will be glad when this is down. 

 

*tries to cleanse mind of this thought*

Edited March 11, 20205 yr by Toddguy
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Looks like Cover my Meds is progressing forward with the Phase II of their new HQ project, they just submitted engineering and site plans with the city for the second office structure.

 

I believe this may actually be an accelerated timeline as opposed to the original build out plans, guessing they are growing faster than anticipated or realized it's easier to just get it done in one swoop than phase it out longer and deal with construction down the line.

 

2 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

Looks like Cover my Meds is progressing forward with the Phase II of their new HQ project, they just submitted engineering and site plans with the city for the second office structure.

 

I believe this may actually be an accelerated timeline as opposed to the original build out plans, guessing they are growing faster than anticipated or realized it's easier to just get it done in one swoop than phase it out longer and deal with construction down the line.

 

 

Was this just the 4-story that they've been planning?  I don't recall what the difference was between phases 1 and 2.

44 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

 

Was this just the 4-story that they've been planning?  I don't recall what the difference was between phases 1 and 2.

 

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According to the zoning application, the first phase of the development would be a 200,000-square-foot office building on the north side of the parcel that would rise to a height of 110 feet. The second phase would see the construction of a 37-foot-tall parking garage and a second 200,000-square-foot office building that would be about 40 feet taller than the one planned for the first phase.

https://www.columbusunderground.com/plans-unveiled-for-new-covermymeds-campus-in-franklinton-bw1

 

https://www.covermymeds.com/main/about/campus/

 

So I guess this second building will be 150 feet?  The renderings don't look anything close to that height?

 

Good news that they are moving forward on now this regardless.

Edited December 19, 20195 yr by Toddguy

5 hours ago, Toddguy said:

 

https://www.columbusunderground.com/plans-unveiled-for-new-covermymeds-campus-in-franklinton-bw1

 

https://www.covermymeds.com/main/about/campus/

 

So I guess this second building will be 150 feet?  The renderings don't look anything close to that height?

 

Good news that they are moving forward on now this regardless.

 

Yeah, it's been a little confusing because none of the renderings have shown anything that tall, even at 110'.  You would normally be talking about something like 8-10 stories with that kind of height, but I'm only seeing 4.  150' makes even less sense.

4 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

 

Yeah, it's been a little confusing because none of the renderings have shown anything that tall, even at 110'.  You would normally be talking about something like 8-10 stories with that kind of height, but I'm only seeing 4.  150' makes even less sense.

The columbusunderground article does say the second phase will be 150’ tall. Maybe they are doing really high ceilings on each level. 

Yes, based on this rendering floors 2 and 3 are at least double height and the 4th floor looks quadruple height? The 

Two Franklinton projects received awards from the Columbus chapter of the AIA at its 2019 annual meeting:

 

https://www.dispatch.com/business/20191107/architecture-awards-include-two-central-ohio-libraries-franklinton-apartments

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2019/11/07/slideshow-here-are-the-best-designed-buildings-in.html

 

Blostein/Overly Architects won in the “large project” category for the 45-unit affordable apartment complex called Out of Town, on West Town Street in Franklinton.  The 2016 post in this thread showing the original project proposal and rendering is at https://forum.urbanohio.com/topic/21-columbus-franklinton-developments-and-news/?do=findComment&comment=743825

 

Below is the finished project as seen from Town Street.  I mentioned in an earlier update how I liked this project much more "as built" than in its original rendered form.  The original renderings used a black stucco-like exterior that sort of gave the building a rather lumpy appearance.  But the battleship gray metal siding and edging that helps define the sawtooth roof - along with the splashes of orange color - give it a crisp/smart looking appearance:

 

The second Franklinton project to receive an 2019 award was the interior renovation of the Columbus Idea Foundry at 421 W. State Street.  Triad Architects won in the “interior architecture” category for its renovation of the 66,000-square-foot building in which judges admired how much the architects accomplished within a limited budget.  An earlier post in this thread showing the renovation in progress is at https://forum.urbanohio.com/topic/21-columbus-franklinton-developments-and-news/?do=findComment&comment=735991: 

(Cross-posted from the Columbus Public Schools thread)

 

https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200107/5-vacant-columbus-school-buildings-to-be-sold

• Starling Middle School, built in 1910 at 120 S. Central Avenue in Franklinton is the other building with hopes for renovation uses.  It closed in 2013 and was appraised in March 2019 for $1.23 million.  It is located in West Franklinton, away from rapidly redeveloping East Franklinton, but near I-70 and across the street from the new Starling Middle School property.

Here's a view from Central Avenue showing the historic original portion of the school building:

 

Here's an aerial view of property block which shows the historic original portion of the school and a later modern addition:

Not the easiest to make out.. but that is some geo testing taking place at the site of Gravity II. Noticed them setting up when I was walking from franklinton to downtown this morning. 

The Gravity II townhomes and tower got some updates in front of the Frankinton Commission yesterday.

 

Starting with the tower, the projects height has remained the same however a skyline view amenity deck has been added to the southeast corner of the 12th floor as well as a revamped exterior and mural. The new exterior cladding is more in line with the approved materials for the Murphy Building (the 6-story office portion of Gravity II), a mural has been added to the northwest corner facing broad street and will span the top 11 floors with up and down lighting, and living walls have been added to multiple parts of the towers ground level. 

 

All changes were approved with the condition Kaufman return with the final mural design and renders for the commission. 

 

 

 

The townhomes screening the parking garage along McDowell St. have increased from 4 stories up to 5 stories. Additionally the unit makeup has been increased to now contain 6 condo units on the first two floors and 18 apartments on floors 3-5. 

 

These changes were approved with the condition Kaufman rework the street level condo entrances to appear more prominent and simplify the design of exterior materials. 

 

Edited January 24, 20205 yr by DevolsDance

Not in love with those changes. The white version and the black cage top design were more dynamic. The multicolor facade looks like it’s trying too hard to be trendy. I’d want to know a lot more about this materials too. 
 

The “townhomes” lining the parking deck look like they got one floor taller. They keep missing the bottom of the balconies being unfinished. If they added something to conceal the wooden structure the building would look a lot better. It’s small details like this that staff and commissions seem to keep missing in reviewing these buildings but I guess it doesn’t matter to me since I don’t live in Columbus anymore and I’ll never see this finished but the city should still be pushing for better. 

I'm glad there was some additional density added and particularly condos but I'm not necessarily sold on the aestetic changes either. They seem a bit forced. I'm glad for the overall project but after the design precedent they set with Gravity 1.0, I still want something more out of the 2.0 part design-wise. Notice that they added color but they took away some of the angles in the windows from the previous iteration that added a bit of diversity other than a copy and past building with a painted exterior. 

 

And bringing that lighting feature from 1.0 across the street would even help. Would be interesting see that design element carry across the entire gravity campus, especially if it grows to a 3.0. 

Edited January 24, 20205 yr by DTCL11

5 hours ago, cityscapes said:

The “townhomes” lining the parking deck look like they got one floor taller. They keep missing the bottom of the balconies being unfinished. If they added something to conceal the wooden structure the building would look a lot better. It’s small details like this that staff and commissions seem to keep missing in reviewing these buildings but I guess it doesn’t matter to me since I don’t live in Columbus anymore and I’ll never see this finished but the city should still be pushing for better. 

 

This is my biggest issue with Kaufman and honestly one of many why I was against them in the IBEW project.  They NEVER pay attention to the details, 600 Goodale is a prime example of this and they've done nothing to show that they've changed.  Until they do I will never be for them building in an established neighborhood.

20 minutes ago, wpcc88 said:

 

This is my biggest issue with Kaufman and honestly one of many why I was against them in the IBEW project.  They NEVER pay attention to the details, 600 Goodale is a prime example of this and they've done nothing to show that they've changed.  Until they do I will never be for them building in an established neighborhood.

I have never noticed that, but it is kind of annoying. Even if they just threw some 2x6’s on it, it would look better. 

I'm gonna be a bit contrarian here and say that the exposed wooden structure doesn't bother me, particularly enough to argue Kaufman doesn't consider details or shouldn't build in an established neighborhood when many of their buildings do turn out well (goodale a major exception). I don't recall seeing them exposed in this way for the IBEW renderings. There were plenty of other details in that proposal though that I wouldn't accuse them of not paying attention to detail IMO. 

 

 I would also posit there may be a reason for the exposure related to safety. Covered wooden structure on a cantilevered deck can lead to hidden safety issues related to deterioration. I wonder if there is any code that pertains to this as well. Other examples of the same issue include Taylor House, river and rich, out of town in Franklinton and All the cantilevered wood structure balconies on the new builds around campus are exposed as well.  The balconies at Jeffrey park are all built out with steel structures directly supported from the ground up and are covered. 

 

Then again, I'm not sure these townhomes fall under the same issue. 80 on the commons are concrete extensions of the floor and are covered.  That being said, there are PLENTY of solutions to address that but they come at a cost. Steel deck framing, which we probably wouldn't complain about etc etc. 

Edited January 25, 20205 yr by DTCL11

2 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

I'm gonna be a bit contrarian here and say that the exposed wooden structure doesn't bother me, particularly enough to argue Kaufman doesn't consider details or shouldn't build in an established neighborhood when many of their buildings do turn out well (goodale a major exception). I don't recall seeing them exposed in this way for the IBEW renderings. There were plenty of other details in that proposal though that I wouldn't accuse them of not paying attention to detail IMO. 

 

 I would also posit there may be a reason for the exposure related to safety. Covered wooden structure on a cantilevered deck can lead to hidden safety issues related to deterioration. I wonder if there is any code that pertains to this as well. Other examples of the same issue include Taylor House, river and rich, out of town in Franklinton and All the cantilevered wood structure balconies on the new builds around campus are exposed as well.  The balconies at Jeffrey park are all built out with steel structures directly supported from the ground up and are covered. 

 

Then again, I'm not sure these townhomes fall under the same issue. 80 on the commons are concrete extensions of the floor and are covered.  That being said, there are PLENTY of solutions to address that but they come at a cost. Steel deck framing, which we probably wouldn't complain about etc etc. 

 

My main point is it results in the “finished” product looking cheap. There are materials out there that would eliminate this and the fact that they don’t utilize them is inexcusable. 

 

We will never know about IBEW but judging from their past work I would be hard pressed to believe that they would’ve delivered on such an intricate build. 

Having the bottoms exposed is a design choice. It’s not “missing details.”  

On 1/25/2020 at 1:26 AM, wpcc88 said:

 

My main point is it results in the “finished” product looking cheap. There are materials out there that would eliminate this and the fact that they don’t utilize them is inexcusable. 

 

We will never know about IBEW but judging from their past work I would be hard pressed to believe that they would’ve delivered on such an intricate build. 

 

It's the cheap metal panels that really kill it for me on any project, really. And unfortunately, that's not unique to any particular city or developer. I hate goodale but I love 80 on the commons. 250 its unremarkable to me but I guess those metal panels have that influence on its final appearance. 

 

That's a very valid conversation to have, it's just not the interpretation I had of the direction of the discussion which seemed to be hyper-focused on the balconies for a moment. 

Mid-January photo of a three-story building under construction at the northwest corner of State and Mill streets in East Franklinton.  The building will have 13 one-bedroom units and a 1,140-square-foot corner retail space.  Photo from https://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-january-2020-we1

 

Mount Carmel West redevelopment work to begin this spring

 

Columbus developer Thrive Cos. plans to start construction in spring on the first phase of redeveloping the Mount Carmel West campus in Franklinton.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/02/03/mount-carmel-west-redevelopment-work-to-begin-this.html

 

 

Another historic photo from "Do You Remember: Classic Old Columbus" Facebook group. 

 

"The proposed Sandusky-Mound Street expressway CIRCA 1956 looking north. It was built and over the years further developed as Route 315. The Sullivant house, eventually incorporated into the Convent of the Good Shepherd was spared only to be torn down for Beasley/Graham Ford. Seen at the freeway and Broad Street"
 

This photo of the CoverMyMeds HQ was posted on the Columbus reddit a bit ago.

 

Historical Society wants to turn 213-year-old Franklinton house into a museum

 

The city of Columbus agreed to deed the property to the Columbus Historical Society.

 

The Harrison House at 570 W. Broad St. was built in 1807.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/02/07/historical-society-wants-to-turn-213-year-old.html

 

First Look: CoverMyMeds starts second HQ building in Franklinton

 

CoverMyMeds has started work on the second building for its Franklinton headquarters two years ahead of schedule because the software maker expects to grow to 1,500 employees by the end of the quarter.

 

The first 220,000-square-foot building is slated to open a year from April, and site work has started for its 200,000-square-foot fraternal twin, targeting a 2022 opening. CoverMyMeds will lease the campus from its developer, Dallas-based Cambridge Holdings Inc.

 

"We’re making incredible progress on our campus so far, and construction on our future home remains on track," Lars Johansson, director of campus operations, said in an online update. "This sequence will allow for quick and efficient simultaneous construction of our two side-by-side buildings."

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/02/07/first-lookcovermymeds-starts-second-hq-building-in.html

 

The Dispatch has a new rendering of Gravity 2.0 with the Scioto Peninsula buildings behind it. It says work on Gravity 2.0 starts today!

 

 

https://www.dispatch.com/business/20200210/work-begins-on-second-phase-of-gravity-development-in-franklinton

Edited February 10, 20205 yr by aderwent
The article

Downtown and Franklinton are going to look and feel so much larger once this is all complete. I think this is just the start of it too, I can't wait. 

Edited February 10, 20205 yr by DevolsDance

Gravity 1.0 is still at 41% vacancy. Meanwhile, it appears River and Rich is 96% leased. What's going on?

There's a little wishful thinking on the rendering! 

 

8 minutes ago, Pablo said:

There's a little wishful thinking on the rendering! 

 

Passenger rail confirmed.  This is definitive proof and I won't believe otherwise.  I also see a 700ft tower in the background with a ground floor Trader Joe's.

Edited February 10, 20205 yr by TH3BUDDHA

13 minutes ago, aderwent said:

Gravity 1.0 is still at 41% vacancy. Meanwhile, it appears River and Rich is 96% leased. What's going on?

 

If I had to guess, price and location.

For comparison, the last time I toured the two locations was back in the fall...

 

Gravity 

1 Bedroom, 733 sq/ft - $1300

Parking $100/month

River & Rich 

1 Bedroom, 700 Sq/ft - $1080

Parking $75/month

 

Additionally, River & Rich kind of has the better location. River & Rich is in the heart of the trendy part of Franklinton, surrounded by 400 W Rich, breweries, and restaurants and is much more active than Broad St. is at the moment from a pedestrian safety standpoint. Gravity will get there but it's just taking a bit longer. I have always been told the first two years of a new project are the hardest because of lease churn and really aren't an indication of market strength. I wouldn't worry too much, especially since they are pushing forward with Gravity II.