48 minutes ago, amped91 said:

Please do!

Right?! Please buy anything available in Franklinton and build it. Kaufman is still the only developer doing anything different. 

More dirt moving at Mount Carmel. Iirc, this is where the SFH portion of the project is supposed to be. 
 

 

 

A couple additional nighttime renderings of Marker’s mixed use Broad St project in their presentation packet for next week’s EFRB meeting:

 

 

Just now, amped91 said:

A couple additional nighttime renderings of Marker’s mixed use Broad St project in their presentation packet for next week’s EFRB meeting:

 

 

 

I like how they depict the future phase as being taller than the first phase. That's obviously conceptual at this point, but it's at least good to see that's the direction they're thinking.

It’s been awhile since we’ve heard anything on this. From the Dispatch, an update on Harriet’s Hope:

 

First-of-its-kind housing project for human trafficking victims gets funding to move ahead

 

 

“The Columbus Metropolitan Housing Authority announced Thursday that it had secured a $15.6 million financing plan that paves the way to begin construction on an affordable housing community to serve survivors of human trafficking.
 

The project, named Harriet’s Hope for slave-turned-abolitionist Harriet Tubman, who helped others escape slavery, is set to be built on the site of a former motel in Franklinton that was demolished last year. The project aims to serve as a haven for survivors of human trafficking and offer resources to give them independence.
 

Harriet’s Hope is the first project of its kind in Ohio and most likely in the nation, advocates of human-trafficking survivors say. CMHA and Beacon 360 management secured funding from eight sources to construct the project, tentatively expected to be completed in late 2023.
 

Funding sources include the Affordable Housing Trust of Columbus and Franklin County, the City of Columbus, state funding and other organizations like the Ohio Capital Corporation for Housing. Catherine Cawthon, CEO of OCCH, said providing housing to survivors was step one.“

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2022/09/23/project-to-house-trafficking-victims-secures-funding-to-move-forward/69512923007/

Fencing up and some equipment on the future site of McKinley Manor on W Broad. 
 

Franklinton may be getting a Moo Moo

 

6 hours ago, amped91 said:

Franklinton may be getting a Moo Moo

 

 

This is getting thumbs up?  

Just now, jonoh81 said:

 

This is getting thumbs up?  

The people love their Moo Moo 🤷🏼‍♂️😆

It is not gonna help the "Cowtown" reputation

36 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

 

This is getting thumbs up?  

I mean it’s outside 70 in an area that would probably never be apartments. Anything new in this area is good in my opinion. In the future it can always be torn down and replaced. 

10 hours ago, VintageLife said:

I mean it’s outside 70 in an area that would probably never be apartments. Anything new in this area is good in my opinion. In the future it can always be torn down and replaced. 

That’s how I feel towards it. If something like this were announced for, say, the Buyers property on Broad, I’d be annoyed. 

10 hours ago, VintageLife said:

I mean it’s outside 70 in an area that would probably never be apartments. Anything new in this area is good in my opinion. In the future it can always be torn down and replaced. 

 

I dunno...between this and the oil change operator proposal for S. High, it feels like auto-oriented "development" in the center city remains unbridled and without research for alternatives. I don't see why this parcel of land can't be used for residential, especially with its proximity to that weird strip mall that has been there forever at the entrance to Harrisburg Pike, as well as the latest plan for the redevelopment of Cooper Stadium.

24 minutes ago, CMHOhio said:

 

I dunno...between this and the oil change operator proposal for S. High, it feels like auto-oriented "development" in the center city remains unbridled and without research for alternatives. I don't see why this parcel of land can't be used for residential, especially with its proximity to that weird strip mall that has been there forever at the entrance to Harrisburg Pike, as well as the latest plan for the redevelopment of Cooper Stadium.

The oil change place on south high is a horrible idea. This car wash I am indifferent to. It could be an apartment, and I think if arshot actually redevelops the stadium, there will be a push for more apartments. Until then, I don’t see a lot of residential in this area. 

I've wanted Moo Moo to develop on the westside in the Lincoln Village/Casino area for a while.  The Moo Moo option for westside residents is just Hilliard.  I'll admit I'll probably end up using this location, so I say bring it on.  Right now I either need to go to Hiliard-Rome or 5th Ave in Grandview and it's so congested in both locations it's annoying.  Moo Moo has a great business and footprint in Central Ohio.  

I know a car wash isn't exciting from an urban development standpoint, and it's car-focused which largely antithetical to urban development. With that said, a truly mixed-use neighborhood is going to have to include some "boring" businesses to increase the liveability and self-sustainability. It's similar to a Dentist moving into a ground floor retail space. It's not exciting or glamorous, and it's definitely not fun, but it's a service that you are able to get without leaving your neighborhood. 

Just now, cbussoccer said:

I know a car wash isn't exciting from an urban development standpoint, and it's car-focused which largely antithetical to urban development. With that said, a truly mixed-use neighborhood is going to have to include some "boring" businesses to increase the liveability and self-sustainability. It's similar to a Dentist moving into a ground floor retail space. It's not exciting or glamorous, and it's definitely not fun, but it's a service that you are able to get without leaving your neighborhood. 

I mean, to think people will not have cars in their neighborhood is absurd (not saying you think that, just stating).  A good portion of the residents in this area even as it builds out/up will not always have garage covered parking, and to folks that like to keep their cars in good condition from being exposed to the elements from street parking etc, I think a quality car wash business is a good thing.  It's an amenity for a developing and growing area of the city preventing local residents from having to drive further away to get the same service.

3 minutes ago, Gnoraa said:

I mean, to think people will not have cars in their neighborhood is absurd (not saying you think that, just stating).

 

Oh I definitely don't think that, which is why a reliable car wash is a perfectly reasonable service for a neighborhood to have. 

There's already 3 car wash/detailing businesses within a mile of this parcel of land. Is there really an un-served, neighborhood need for this service? I know this area of town can't be picky when it comes to new business wanting to come in, but I still think the conversation is warranted.

On 9/28/2022 at 9:44 AM, Gnoraa said:

I've wanted Moo Moo to develop on the westside in the Lincoln Village/Casino area for a while.  The Moo Moo option for westside residents is just Hilliard.  I'll admit I'll probably end up using this location, so I say bring it on.  Right now I either need to go to Hiliard-Rome or 5th Ave in Grandview and it's so congested in both locations it's annoying.  Moo Moo has a great business and footprint in Central Ohio.  

They're building one in front of the Lowes behind Historic Crew Stadium and I couldn't be happier. Now I don't need to go to the one on Henderson in UA. Maybe I'll actually wash my car more than 4 times a year now!

On 9/27/2022 at 8:52 PM, VintageLife said:

I mean it’s outside 70 in an area that would probably never be apartments. Anything new in this area is good in my opinion. In the future it can always be torn down and replaced. 

 

Meh, I will continue to always want to see the best use of land regardless, and I don't think a car wash is going to magically change the trajectory of the area. It's the kind of thing you see built when an area has no real momentum to begin with, just like self-storage units. I feel the same way about people being all excited about a Sheetz gas station. It's... a gas station. Not sure why anyone should be satisfied with car-centric, car-dependent, low-density development anywhere within Columbus' borders at this point.  

On 9/28/2022 at 8:01 AM, CMHOhio said:

 

I dunno...between this and the oil change operator proposal for S. High, it feels like auto-oriented "development" in the center city remains unbridled and without research for alternatives. I don't see why this parcel of land can't be used for residential, especially with its proximity to that weird strip mall that has been there forever at the entrance to Harrisburg Pike, as well as the latest plan for the redevelopment of Cooper Stadium.

 

If that weird, post-industrial wasteland that is South High, railroad tracks and 104 can see new development, there really isn't any excuse anywhere.

Edited September 29, 20222 yr by jonoh81

On 9/28/2022 at 10:00 AM, CMHOhio said:

There's already 3 car wash/detailing businesses within a mile of this parcel of land. Is there really an un-served, neighborhood need for this service? I know this area of town can't be picky when it comes to new business wanting to come in, but I still think the conversation is warranted.

 

People are acting like this will create a walkable neighborhood or something when it's just creating more car-dependency and use when there are literally plenty of similar nearby options that someone would have to drive to anyway.  How is this any different than say, people in German Village demanding abundant parking in front of their homes?  It's all about arguments for car convenience, not neighborhood quality.  Not getting the reasoning on this at all, and seems a bit hypocritical given all the mocking of the NIMBYs in GV and Clintonville for basically the same thing.

Edited September 29, 20222 yr by jonoh81

15 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

People are acting like this will create a walkable neighborhood or something 

 

I don't think anyone suggested this. 

10 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

I don't think anyone suggested this. 

 

You said a mixed-use urban neighborhood will have developments like this, and another poster said it would be good for the area.  I don't think either of those things is true.  It will absolutely not change a single thing in regards to the trajectory of the neighborhood, and it's the exact opposite of what actual mixed-use urban neighborhoods would have. 

 

I know this particular area is not exactly high on anyone's radar for development and has long been a mess of car-centric strip malls and gas stations and fast food outlots.  I totally get that. I'm just saying that if we really want that to change, supporting projects like this only hurt that goal.

Edited September 29, 20222 yr by jonoh81

Just now, jonoh81 said:

You said a mixed-use urban neighborhood will have developments like this, and another poster said it would be good for the area. 

 

Yep, but neither one of us said it would increase walkability. 

 

2 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

It will absolutely not change a single thing in regards to the trajectory of the neighborhood, and it's the exact opposite of what actual mixed-use urban neighborhoods would have. 

 

I don't think anyone here is under the impression that a Moo Moo Car Wash is going to completely the trajectory of any neighborhood. However, people do favor them over most other car washes and will often go out of their way to use one even when there are more convenient options. A mixed-use neighborhood will certainly have services such as this, unless cars simply don't exist. If anything, this car wash will drive the others in the area out of business which will allow that land to be redeveloped.

19 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Yep, but neither one of us said it would increase walkability. 

 

 

I don't think anyone here is under the impression that a Moo Moo Car Wash is going to completely the trajectory of any neighborhood. However, people do favor them over most other car washes and will often go out of their way to use one even when there are more convenient options. A mixed-use neighborhood will certainly have services such as this, unless cars simply don't exist. If anything, this car wash will drive the others in the area out of business which will allow that land to be redeveloped.

 

The implication of both of those positions is that it will help make the neighborhood better/more urban long-term.  

 

So again, it's about car convenience, which a true urban neighborhood would not prioritize at all.  An urban neighborhood would be walkable, bikeable or otherwise have more transit options.  If you really looked at the locations of businesses like car washes, how many would you really find outside of suburban-built areas like the one in question?  I would hazard a guess to say almost none of them. In fact, looking at the 25 Moo Moo locations around Columbus, 18 of them are fully outside of 270.  Of the 7 inside, only 2 would be close to or within what could be described as semi-urban neighborhoods- W. 5th- which is still developed more like Hilliard Rome Road in parts, and the one being constructed behind the Lowes up by the fairgrounds, another kind of atypical location. 

Not a single one, though, exists within a mixed-use, dense, walkable neighborhood or corridor.  So it doesn't seem like even the company believes that they are necessary or even successful in those neighborhoods. Which makes sense. Only neighborhoods that cater to cars get car-centric businesses.    

 

Edited September 29, 20222 yr by jonoh81

8 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

 

The implication of both of those positions is that it will help make the neighborhood better/more urban long-term.  

 

So again, it's about car convenience, which a true urban neighborhood would not prioritize at all.  An urban neighborhood would be walkable, bikeable or otherwise have more transit options.  If you really looked at the locations of businesses like car washes, how many would you really find outside of suburban-built areas like the one in question?  I would hazard a guess to say almost none of them. In fact, looking at the 25 Moo Moo locations around Columbus, 18 of them are fully outside of 270.  Of the 7 inside, only 2 would be close to or within what could be described as semi-urban neighborhoods- W. 5th- which is still developed more like Hilliard Rome Road in parts, and the one being constructed behind the Lowes up by the fairgrounds, another kind of atypical location. 

Not a single one, though, exists within a mixed-use, dense, walkable neighborhood.  So it doesn't seem like even the company believes that they are necessary or even successful in those neighborhoods. Which makes sense. Only neighborhoods that cater to cars get car-centric businesses.    

 

 

Here's a non-exhaustive map of car washes in Brooklyn, one of the least car dependent areas in the country.  

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Here's a non-exhaustive map of car washes in Brooklyn, one of the least car dependent areas in the country.  

 

 

 

People have cars, even in walkable areas. Those cars need to be washed. it's just smart business to put those close to where people with cars are, and that's literally everywhere in Columbus at this time. 

 

If it was super walkable and nobody anywhere had cars, I'd expect to see more shoe shines, cobblers and shoe stores in the area since people who walk everywhere would need/want those services.

Edited September 29, 20222 yr by TIm

1 hour ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Here's a non-exhaustive map of car washes in Brooklyn, one of the least car dependent areas in the country.  

 

 

 

 

Notice where they're clustered. Even places like Brooklyn, a suburb, has suburban-style, car-centric areas, so this is not the point you think you're making.  Most of these are either near highways or major thoroughfares that feature such development.  But if you actually look at these places on Google Maps, the vast majority seem to be relics from decades ago when Brooklyn wasn't exactly in its best era. It's hard to imagine a lot of these sites won't eventually get redeveloped. It's too bad we don't have a map like this from 20-30 years ago.  I have a suspicion there used to be quite a few more than exist now, and you're very unlikely to be seeing too many brand new ones being built there. 

But all this is beside the point, as even if you're okay with something like a car wash, there's nothing to say that it can't be part of a large mixed-use project just as a White Castle or CVS can be.  The style being promoted here- the basic suburban outlot- is terrible and the opposite to what the development goals of the neighborhood should be if we're actually being consistent in promoting urban development standards.

Also, if we're going to be comparing Columbus to Brooklyn in the first place, we should probably start by acknowledging there is no realistic comparison to be made from an urban standpoint.  They blow Columbus away, so it's a bit more forgivable. 

 

Edited September 29, 20222 yr by jonoh81

15 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

 

Notice where they're clustered. Even places like Brooklyn, a suburb, has suburban-style, car-centric areas, so this is not the point you think you're making.  Most of these are either near highways or major thoroughfares that feature such development.  But if you actually look at these places on Google Maps, the vast majority seem to be relics from decades ago when Brooklyn wasn't exactly in its best era. It's hard to imagine a lot of these sites won't eventually get redeveloped. It's too bad we don't have a map like this from 20-30 years ago.  I have a suspicion there used to be quite a few more than exist now, and you're very unlikely to be seeing too many brand new ones being built there. 

But all this is beside the point, as even if you're okay with something like a car wash, there's nothing to say that it can't be part of a large mixed-use project just as a White Castle or CVS can be.  The style being promoted here- the basic suburban outlot- is terrible and the opposite to what the development goals of the neighborhood should be if we're actually being consistent in promoting urban development standards.

Also, if we're going to be comparing Columbus to Brooklyn in the first place, we should probably start by acknowledging there is no realistic comparison to be made from an urban standpoint.  They blow Columbus away, so it's a bit more forgivable. 

 

So what you're saying is they put car washes where people drive cars. That's literally everywhere in Columbus hence the new car wash in this area. This parcel is also right next to where 70/62 connect and it's on Mound which I'd say is a major thoroughfare for the area, just happens to be at the end of it. Also close enough to Sullivant which is another major thoroughfare.

16 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

Even places like Brooklyn, a suburb, has suburban-style, car-centric areas, so this is not the point you think you're making.  Most of these are either near highways or major thoroughfares that feature such development. 

 

You mean like this suburban-style, car-centric area?

 

 

 

 

17 hours ago, TIm said:

So what you're saying is they put car washes where people drive cars. That's literally everywhere in Columbus hence the new car wash in this area. This parcel is also right next to where 70/62 connect and it's on Mound which I'd say is a major thoroughfare for the area, just happens to be at the end of it. Also close enough to Sullivant which is another major thoroughfare.

 

No, I'm saying they put car washes in places where car-centric development is already dominant and enough people will give it a pass. Do you think a car wash outlot would be built in the Short North today? What I'm saying is the people here who support such development within the city are not at all being consistent when they claim to support urban development. People can't on one hand criticize Clintonville or GV for seemingly always being against mixed-use density and then turnaround and praise a Moo Moo because they will happen to use it.  Then it just becomes obvious that some people are only for urban development when it's not in their neighborhoods, or when it won't impact them directly.

For me, it's entirely about what kind of city we want long-term. Do we want walkability? Do we want transit? Do we want vibrant neighborhoods? Then this kind of thing shouldn't be supported, at least when it's not integrated into a larger development. 

Now, I'm not going to die on the hill on this issue over a single site in an already crap area, but I find this kind of milquetoast urban support just as damaging as raging NIMBYism, though clearly few agree.    

17 hours ago, cbussoccer said:

 

You mean like this suburban-style, car-centric area?

 

 

 

 

 

Yes. The issue isn't that it's not already suburban and car-centric, but whether we collectively want it to continue being so.  Based on the responses, I am outnumbered with wanting something better than stroads, parking lots and fast-food outlets.

25 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

No, I'm saying they put car washes in places where car-centric development is already dominant and enough people will give it a pass. Do you think a car wash outlot would be built in the Short North today? What I'm saying is the people here who support such development within the city are not at all being consistent when they claim to support urban development. People can't on one hand criticize Clintonville or GV for seemingly always being against mixed-use density and then turnaround and praise a Moo Moo because they will happen to use it.  Then it just becomes obvious that some people are only for urban development when it's not in their neighborhoods, or when it won't impact them directly.

For me, it's entirely about what kind of city we want long-term. Do we want walkability? Do we want transit? Do we want vibrant neighborhoods? Then this kind of thing shouldn't be supported, at least when it's not integrated into a larger development. 

Now, I'm not going to die on the hill on this issue over a single site in an already crap area, but I find this kind of milquetoast urban support just as damaging as raging NIMBYism, though clearly few agree.    

Basically I tailor my expectations according to the location, the size of the proposal, and the remaining potential after said proposal.
Something worth considering is that a lot of residents in our Metro who are not plugged in to UrbanOhio, Columbus Underground etc, can look at a place like Mound and think there it's only downhill from here. I looked at S. Hamilton by Eastland years ago and thought there was no hope, and remember getting a little happier because they built a suburban Tim Hortons and Popeyes. It comes to the point where getting something built at all triggers a bright spot for people, even if it's not urban development.

Mound Street and Eastland (and Far South, and 161 etc) are still at an infancy when looking at a revitalization perspective. Short North and Downtown are full grown adults. It makes sense to expect masterpieces from adults and amateur work for beginners. Not every property throughout the city is going to become an urban utopia with 20+ story mixed-used development builds. And seeing how there's so much more potential property to go around on Mound, I can't see getting too upset over a small footprint as I could when the space is much more competitive like German Village, Downtown or Short North.

4 hours ago, jonoh81 said:

Do you think a car wash outlot would be built in the Short North today? What I'm saying is the people here who support such development within the city are not at all being consistent when they claim to support urban development.

 

I could get behind an urban, Chicago style car wash with just a garage door right on the sidewalk. This one in Lake View even offers outdoor seating! But I digress.... 

 

 

3 hours ago, PrestoKinetic said:

Basically I tailor my expectations according to the location, the size of the proposal, and the remaining potential after said proposal.
Something worth considering is that a lot of residents in our Metro who are not plugged in to UrbanOhio, Columbus Underground etc, can look at a place like Mound and think there it's only downhill from here. I looked at S. Hamilton by Eastland years ago and thought there was no hope, and remember getting a little happier because they built a suburban Tim Hortons and Popeyes. It comes to the point where getting something built at all triggers a bright spot for people, even if it's not urban development.

Mound Street and Eastland (and Far South, and 161 etc) are still at an infancy when looking at a revitalization perspective. Short North and Downtown are full grown adults. It makes sense to expect masterpieces from adults and amateur work for beginners. Not every property throughout the city is going to become an urban utopia with 20+ story mixed-used development builds. And seeing how there's so much more potential property to go around on Mound, I can't see getting too upset over a small footprint as I could when the space is much more competitive like German Village, Downtown or Short North.

 

I get tempering expectations in certain areas, but given housing shortages and price increases, and how some very questionable areas are seeing major, transformative projects, I think the excuse of "it's okay because the area is already terrible" makes less and less sense long-term. This is one thing I hope new city codes will address, where they decentivize low-density, suburban development or surface parking, but I'm not exactly holding my breath.  I do agree with the earlier point made that it wouldn't be difficult to redevelop these properties at some point, but as you say, there is a bit of confirmation bias in what gets built in areas like this. If it's all fast food and parking and strip malls already, no one cares that much if more gets built- or even be somewhat happy about it because it's at least something new.  I just think that's the wrong way to look at it.  I used to work right near this particular intersection, and always thought it was super depressing, but had tons of potential.  That potential is what I'm choosing to support, because that's what places like this need most- not more of the same.    

8 minutes ago, Pablo said:

 

I could get behind an urban, Chicago style car wash with just a garage door right on the sidewalk. This one in Lake View even offers outdoor seating! But I digress.... 

 

 

 

Yep, it's not specifically the car wash, it's the layout and land use overall.  

Gravity 2 garage getting some color!

 

On 7/25/2022 at 11:13 PM, ColDayMan said:

Seven-Story Building Proposed for West Broad Street

 

A local company has submitted plans to build a seven-story mixed-use development at 630 W. Broad St., next door to Holy Family Church in Franklinton.

 

The proposal, from Marker Development, calls for five floors of apartments over a two-story parking garage. The bottom two levels would also hold a lobby and about 4,400 square feet of commercial space (on the Broad Street side of the building), and six townhomes on the Gay Street side of the building.

 

Plans and renderings for the project were submitted to the city in advance of this week’s East Franklinton Review Board meeting. The proposal was also discussed by the board in April, when a less fleshed-out design was brought before them for an initial discussion of the site.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/seven-story-building-proposed-for-west-broad-street-bw1/

 

 

There's been some activity at 630 W Broad the last couple of days

 

 

Dirt moving at State and McDowell

 

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said:

 

Dirt moving at State and McDowell

 

 

 

 

Is that the location of the townhomes? Cannot wait to see how those turn out. 

24 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Is that the location of the townhomes? Cannot wait to see how those turn out. 

I believe this is the affordable housing component—McDowell Place. I’d noticed over the weekend that some site grading had been done there. 
 

Either way, I’m looking forward to seeing the townhomes too. 

36 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Is that the location of the townhomes? Cannot wait to see how those turn out. 

 

i don't think so. 

 

if i remember right the townhomes will be built right up against the parking garage. (This is across the street from the parking garage.)

 

Snatched a few quick ones of Gravity 2.0 on my way through.

 

Startin to get some color!

 

 

 

 

Former Mount Carmel West site to include park
 

“Franklinton will have a new city-owned urban park at the site of the former Mount Carmel West medical campus as it is transformed into a mixed-use development following the hospital's relocation to Grove City, under a plan approved by the Columbus City Council Monday evening.

 

The developer, Thrive Companies, donated to the city Recreation and Parks Department the parcel at 854 West Town St.

 

"The Department and the Developer have agreed to the terms of an (memorandum of understanding) that will require the owner to donate a 1.7 acre parcel of land to the City to be dedicated as public parkland," the ordinance reads. "Upon completion of construction of other buildings ... the Developer has also agreed to build a new park on the donated parkland and to maintain the park improvements in perpetuity." The city Recreation and Parks Commission signed off on the deal last month.

 

"The site’s transformation into a park will commence upon Thrive Companies’ completion of construction work adjacent to the site, ultimately bringing online a major park in one of Columbus’ neighborhoods with the greatest need for green space," City Council said in a written statement.”

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2022/10/18/new-park-donated-as-part-of-mount-carmel-redevelopment-in-franklinton/69564356007/

3 hours ago, amped91 said:

Former Mount Carmel West site to include park
 

“Franklinton will have a new city-owned urban park at the site of the former Mount Carmel West medical campus as it is transformed into a mixed-use development following the hospital's relocation to Grove City, under a plan approved by the Columbus City Council Monday evening.

 

The developer, Thrive Companies, donated to the city Recreation and Parks Department the parcel at 854 West Town St.

 

"The Department and the Developer have agreed to the terms of an (memorandum of understanding) that will require the owner to donate a 1.7 acre parcel of land to the City to be dedicated as public parkland," the ordinance reads. "Upon completion of construction of other buildings ... the Developer has also agreed to build a new park on the donated parkland and to maintain the park improvements in perpetuity." The city Recreation and Parks Commission signed off on the deal last month.

 

"The site’s transformation into a park will commence upon Thrive Companies’ completion of construction work adjacent to the site, ultimately bringing online a major park in one of Columbus’ neighborhoods with the greatest need for green space," City Council said in a written statement.”

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2022/10/18/new-park-donated-as-part-of-mount-carmel-redevelopment-in-franklinton/69564356007/

Well I don't know if I would call it a major park at 1.7 acres(isn't that about 200 by 350 feet?-I wonder if it will be that whole rectangle at the address listed)but it will still be a nice neighborhood park for the area and a great little amenity for West Franklinton.

 

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the Developer has also agreed to build a new park on the donated parkland and to maintain the park improvements in perpetuity."

 I could not help but laugh at the "in perpetuity" part. Even if we all get nuked they will still be taking care of that park and they mean it! lol

Edited October 18, 20222 yr by Toddguy
the usual

Gravity 2.0 (10-23-22)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Former) West Side Spiritualist Church/McDowell Place site prep

 

2 small building renovations at Town and McDowell into retail and office space

 

Mount Carmel activity

 

2 hours ago, NorthShore647 said:

 

 

This may have been posted in here but does anyone know what that grey stone building shown in this photo is going to be repurposed into. Or have their been any plans announced? 
 

this building, the vacant building next to Brewdog with the bunny on it and the two buildings to the east of River and Rich all need someone to come in and rehab them ASAP.

Columbus Business First has a nice article on Franklinton and Brett Kaufman.

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/10/28/franklinton.html

 

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While Kaufman considered Franklinton a tough part of town for a while, he said the people there have been “open and supportive” of development.

“We’ve always tried to find the sites in neighborhoods that fundamentally are strong, but you can see that you could come in there and do something really impactful,” Kaufman said.

“Franklinton wasn’t saddled with all of the historic architecture guidelines and density limitations,” he said. “And there weren’t tons of people in the neighborhood that were opposing growth.”

 

What surprised me was the amount of land Nationwide controls - indicated in blue in the center of the map below. 

Hopefully it won't become Arena District Phase 3 😑