January 22, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, VintageLife said: As long as there is commercial on broad and State I think it will be okay. I still have no expectation of this building looking good. I think we’ll be surprised. That being said it looks like the Broad St. access won’t happen - thankfully.
January 22, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, columbus17 said: I think we’ll be surprised. That being said it looks like the Broad St. access won’t happen - thankfully. Per the posted plan Broad St. access is happening.
January 22, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Pablo said: Per the posted plan Broad St. access is happening. Read the comments. It isn’t.
January 22, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, columbus17 said: Read the comments. It isn’t. What comments? Per the submitted PSCP the Broad St. access is part of the plan. The only City comments I see are to label street names and add a north arrow. I'm indifferent about a Broad St drive, there's one there now. I'd like to see the two tunnels utilized to the east but there may be clearance issues (both vertically and turning radii for deliveries).
January 22, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Pablo said: What comments? Per the submitted PSCP the Broad St. access is part of the plan. The only City comments I see are to label street names and add a north arrow. I'm indifferent about a Broad St drive, there's one there now. I'd like to see the two tunnels utilized to the east but there may be clearance issues (both vertically and turning radii for deliveries). Further down - traffic dept. They do not approve for Broad Street access.
January 22, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, VintageLife said: As long as there is commercial on broad and State I think it will be okay. I still have no expectation of this building looking good. Hopefully ten years from now there will be a few taller buildings in the surrounding area that will hide this building anyway.
January 22, 20241 yr 35 minutes ago, columbus17 said: Further down - traffic dept. They do not approve for Broad Street access. Post it here. It doesn't show up on the PSCP that aderwent posted.
January 22, 20241 yr My concern here is how monolithic it will look from east or west. A 15 story wall that is potentially 600ish ft wide is... gross. Even if semi masked by other development still seems... gross.
January 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, columbus17 said: Further down - traffic dept. They do not approve for Broad Street access. They don't support it; that doesn't mean it's not approved. They are requiring a traffic study be done, and identifying any impacts with the State Street pedestrian improvements, the Broad Street streetscpaing, and the Broad Street BRT project. edit: Considering they're just moving the eastern-most curb cut and eliminating the western-most curb cut, I don't see how it wouldn't be approved. Edited January 22, 20241 yr by aderwent
January 22, 20241 yr Just now, DTCL11 said: My concern here is how monolithic it will look from east or west. A 15 story wall that is potentially 600ish ft wide is... gross. Even if semi masked by other development still seems... gross. Yeah, it would almost be better for it to go down to a shorter height on the state st side. That might already be the plan, but who knows.
January 22, 20241 yr Plan to tear down historic home of Spaghetti Warehouse raises concerns from Columbus Landmarks What's the plan for the Spaghetti Warehouse site? Columbus developer Robert Weiler Co. is working with Falco, Smith and Kelley LTD and the owners of Spaghetti Warehouse to redevelop the site of the restaurant's former home into a 15-story tower with 534 residential units, a 577-space parking garage and about 15,000 square feet of retail space. ... Spaghetti Warehouse closed the Franklinton-area restaurant in March 2022 after part of its roof collapsed. The restaurant has since reopened downtown, though the goal is for the restaurant to move back when the new building is constructed. Despite the structural issues, Columbus Landmarks CEO Becca Kemper said she hopes the original building is "saved in some capacity." She wants the developers to consider what the building means to Columbus residents. "It would be quite a loss because that is a building that represents what started that district," Kemper told me. "That building is beloved by many in Columbus." More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/22/spaghetti-warehouse-franklinton-tower-history.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, ColDayMan said: Plan to tear down historic home of Spaghetti Warehouse raises concerns from Columbus Landmarks What's the plan for the Spaghetti Warehouse site? Columbus developer Robert Weiler Co. is working with Falco, Smith and Kelley LTD and the owners of Spaghetti Warehouse to redevelop the site of the restaurant's former home into a 15-story tower with 534 residential units, a 577-space parking garage and about 15,000 square feet of retail space. ... Spaghetti Warehouse closed the Franklinton-area restaurant in March 2022 after part of its roof collapsed. The restaurant has since reopened downtown, though the goal is for the restaurant to move back when the new building is constructed. Despite the structural issues, Columbus Landmarks CEO Becca Kemper said she hopes the original building is "saved in some capacity." She wants the developers to consider what the building means to Columbus residents. "It would be quite a loss because that is a building that represents what started that district," Kemper told me. "That building is beloved by many in Columbus." More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/22/spaghetti-warehouse-franklinton-tower-history.html Would love for at least the front facade to be incorporated into one of the new retail spaces.
January 23, 20241 yr I prefer the Looming Lasagna. 15 layers? 15 stories? COINCIDENCE?! I. THINK. NOT.
January 23, 20241 yr We can only hope that the tower is as aesthetically layered as this here lasagna.
January 23, 20241 yr 49 minutes ago, PrestoKinetic said: We can only hope that the tower is as aesthetically layered as this here lasagna. Corrugated panels for days.
January 23, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, PrestoKinetic said: We can only hope that the tower is as aesthetically layered as this here lasagna. Someone photoshop a giant lasagna there please.
January 23, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, DTCL11 said: Corrugated panels for days. I’m picturing this, but massive Edited January 23, 20241 yr by VintageLife
January 23, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: Flavortown Approved! We could rename this area "Little Lasagna"
January 23, 20241 yr Build it! Dang, @DTCL11beat me to it. I like it tho! Picasso. Edited January 23, 20241 yr by DevolsDance
January 23, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, DevolsDance said: Build it! Dang, @DTCL11beat me to it. I like it tho! Picasso. Yours is FAR superior. All hail! 🙌 I really like your alternating approach with Gravity 2.0. Hey, Weiler, I hope you're taking notes. Also, your photo makes me so mad the city hasn't mandated solar or green roofs on parking decks. 😅 Edited January 23, 20241 yr by DTCL11
January 23, 20241 yr Be careful don’t give the developer any ideas since this is in the downtown district that commission would probably approve a lasagna building.
January 23, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, DTCL11 said: Yours is FAR superior. All hail! 🙌 I really like your alternating approach with Gravity 2.0. Hey, Weiler, I hope you're taking notes. Also, your photo makes me so mad the city hasn't mandated solar or green roofs on parking decks. 😅 I have a feeling they will have the part along broad be shorter, so it does t block gravity, but who knows. I 100% agree with you on the solar roof on parking garages, the gravity one looks just as bad.
January 23, 20241 yr 31 minutes ago, PizzaScissors said: I thought we already had a lasagna tower proposed for Columbus. That was Millenial Pizza Box Tower. Also known as Dorm Room Trash Jenga Edited January 23, 20241 yr by DTCL11
January 23, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: They are not messing around at Gravity Greenhouse! They didn’t mess around with any of those buildings, it’s nice to see. It seemed to start right after the 2.0 started wrapping up
January 31, 20241 yr Prim Mason lookin good with some new windows Got a few more from Gravity Greenhouse while I was there
February 5, 20241 yr CMHA approves $100 million for apartment financing, including second phase of River & Rich "River & Rich apartments in Franklinton should begin in the next several months after the Columbus Metropolitan Housing Authority board recently authorized a $47.5-million bond sale to help finance the development. The second phase will be 234 apartments units with commercial space. That new phase expansion will sit on the property that once held the housing authority's 11-story Sunshine Terrace tower. The property could also accommodate a third phase of the development." https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2024/02/05/river-rich-apartments-in-franklinton-to-begin-second-phase/72480554007/
February 6, 20241 yr Glad River & Rich phase 2 is still going. Now someone please rehab those 2 abandoned buildings to the east of River & Rich 1.
February 6, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, 614love said: Glad River & Rich phase 2 is still going. Now someone please rehab those 2 abandoned buildings to the east of River & Rich 1. They have been purchased, hopefully someone actually does something with them.
February 7, 20241 yr River & Rich developers share new renderings of Franklinton project's next phase "Bob Bitzenhofer, vice president for planning and development at CMHA, said the the next phase will consist of two U-shaped buildings, which will have their own parking and amenities separate from the first phase. This development will also include 8,000 square feet of commercial space. The site is L-shaped, he said, which leaves a possibility for a third phase. Casto Communities President Brent Sobczak told us in December the firm hoped to break ground this quarter. Bitzenhofer said with this bond now issued, financing could close in this quarter and construction will start soon after. CMHA's participation in the deal allows the developers to hold 20% of the units at 80% of the area median income and 100% of the area median income, Bitzenhofer said." https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/02/07/franklinton-apartments-river-rich-renderings-phase.html Edited February 7, 20241 yr by aderwent
February 7, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, aderwent said: River & Rich developers share new renderings of Franklinton project's next phase "Bob Bitzenhofer, vice president for planning and development at CMHA, said the the next phase will consist of two U-shaped buildings, which will have their own parking and amenities separate from the first phase. This development will also include 8,000 square feet of commercial space. The site is L-shaped, he said, which leaves a possibility for a third phase. Casto Communities President Brent Sobczak told us in December the firm hoped to break ground this quarter. Bitzenhofer said with this bond now issued, financing could close in this quarter and construction will start soon after. CMHA's participation in the deal allows the developers to hold 20% of the units at 80% of the area median income and 100% of the area median income, Bitzenhofer said." https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/02/07/franklinton-apartments-river-rich-renderings-phase.html Glad to see more development, but good lord I wish Casto would stop developing in urban areas. They are terrible and have zero creativity. There is not reason for not building taller in this area. They are a joke and I doubt phase 3 brings anything else exciting.
February 7, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, VintageLife said: Glad to see more development, but good lord I wish Casto would stop developing in urban areas. They are terrible and have zero creativity. There is not reason for not building taller in this area. They are a joke and I doubt phase 3 brings anything else exciting. Agreed. It's really a shame that the original 12-story plan for the second phase isn't in the works: Hopefully/maybe it'll be part of Phase III?
February 8, 20241 yr 27 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: Agreed. It's really a shame that the original 12-story plan for the second phase isn't in the works: Hopefully/maybe it'll be part of Phase III? I don’t even see phase 3 happening, but hopefully I’m wrong.
February 8, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, CMHOhio said: Agreed. It's really a shame that the original 12-story plan for the second phase isn't in the works: Hopefully/maybe it'll be part of Phase III? WAIT WHAT'S THIS???
February 8, 20241 yr 48 minutes ago, columbus17 said: WAIT WHAT'S THIS??? It was the original phase 2 plan for river and rich 12-Story Building Part of New Franklinton Proposal from 2019. Shame they changed it and it’s a shame the city didn’t fight against it.
February 8, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: It was the original phase 2 plan for river and rich 12-Story Building Part of New Franklinton Proposal from 2019. Shame they changed it and it’s a shame the city didn’t fight against it. Well it's office. That explains why it isn't happening. But the original design for the apartments is way better.
February 8, 20241 yr 9 hours ago, VintageLife said: There is not reason for not building taller in this area. There is. Keep in mind this is in partnership with CMHA and partially dependent on bonds. Plus we are at the mercy of time versus cost. We've waited long enough to see movement, so in this case, for the sake of continuity and further density, I'm ok with it. And as far as creativity, it's standard. But not the bad kind that Uncommon evokes. Not sure Casto is one to want to kick out. They still seem to maximize land use, prioritize retail and pedestrian experience, and are building in such a way to allow future builds. Casto isn't the juggernauts that Kaufmann, NRI, Edwards, are downtown but that's OK. I can't really say anything they've done is bad or a joke. We are still going to see smaller developments especially in the neighborhoods. I'm not sure any of them would be putting a 12 story here as well. It still appears to be a somewhat quality addition to the neighborhood. We are at the disadvantage of having seen a prior proposal but alot has happened since 2019
February 9, 20241 yr Progress check at Gravity Greenhouse And a quick one of future restaurants across McDowell
February 9, 20241 yr 22 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: Progress check at Gravity Greenhouse And a quick one of future restaurants across McDowell The renovated buildings on McDowell look amazing and they came out perfect.
February 13, 20241 yr CU did their construction roundup and included a picture of the affordable housing units on McDowell that replaced the church. It looks really good. https://columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-february-2024-edition-part-one-we1/
February 13, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, Pablo said: ^ Is there a building behind all those wires? Yeah that area needs a lot of work. The power lines, sidewalks and the road are all awful. Hopefully once most of this development is done, that’s the next step.
February 13, 20241 yr 39 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Yeah that area needs a lot of work. The power lines, sidewalks and the road are all awful. Hopefully once most of this development is done, that’s the next step. Franklinton has some terrible infrastructure. It needs a lot of work.
February 16, 20241 yr Souder Trail Pedestrian Bridge expected to open this July... Bridging Communities: Milestones Reached on Souder Trail Pedestrian Bridge "If you use the Scioto Trail, you will be excited to hear that construction on the 420-foot pedestrian bridge along the Souder Trail in Franklinton is advancing! The Franklinton/Souder Avenue project is shaping a transformative landscape, introducing a new pedestrian bridge over the Scioto River and an adjoining trail along Souder Avenue to West Broad Street. The bridge will allow residents and professionals to reach downtown and the Arena District within minutes. It will improve the experience for people attending events and participating in races and walks in the area, ensuring a safe crossing of the Scioto River. The new beams for the bridge were set at the end of 2023, and the bridge is expected to open this July." https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/OHCCC/bulletins/38a7ff5
February 19, 20241 yr On 2/15/2024 at 8:17 PM, Luvcbus said: Souder Trail Pedestrian Bridge expected to open this July... Bridging Communities: Milestones Reached on Souder Trail Pedestrian Bridge "If you use the Scioto Trail, you will be excited to hear that construction on the 420-foot pedestrian bridge along the Souder Trail in Franklinton is advancing! The Franklinton/Souder Avenue project is shaping a transformative landscape, introducing a new pedestrian bridge over the Scioto River and an adjoining trail along Souder Avenue to West Broad Street. The bridge will allow residents and professionals to reach downtown and the Arena District within minutes. It will improve the experience for people attending events and participating in races and walks in the area, ensuring a safe crossing of the Scioto River. The new beams for the bridge were set at the end of 2023, and the bridge is expected to open this July." https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/OHCCC/bulletins/38a7ff5 Work continues on the decorative wall going up along the new trail on Souder Ave connecting W Broad to the new pedestrian bridge over the Scioto River
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