May 10, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, DevolsDance said: Interview in Business First with Brett, dove into some of the details of this sale and project. - Franklinton/Downtown residential is soft right now due to amount of Class A units coming online at once, the office component is struggling - Project facing shortfall on loans with "imminent maturity dates". - Attempts to raise $7.5M in funds to stabilize project have failed, high interest rates and banks denying bridge loans on projects nationwide. - Despite challenges, interest in project from buyers has been "phenomenally strong" - Will not impact future projects or existing projects in the portfolio (GreenHouse SN exceeding lease expectations and project schedule) He brings up some interesting tidbits, which confirm that downtown is still facing headwinds while the overall market (even the core) remains strong. As always, every public/private investment in Downtown/Franklinton will help strengthen things. The SN had the benefit of critical mass prior to COVID, while Downtown/Franklinton just was not there yet... seems like COVID impacts will be felt for quite some time. Hopefully we don’t just get a bunch of crap development on prime land because of this. I’m glad his projects are fine that are already being built. I know we need tons of housing and hopefully we continue to get good builds filling in random spots. Let’s keep the prime locations empty for a bit longer, until things shift.
May 10, 20241 yr 33 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Hopefully we don’t just get a bunch of crap development on prime land because of this. I’m glad his projects are fine that are already being built. I know we need tons of housing and hopefully we continue to get good builds filling in random spots. Let’s keep the prime locations empty for a bit longer, until things shift. He’s not selling the land just the buildings from what I’ve seen.
May 10, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, columbus17 said: He’s not selling the land just the buildings from what I’ve seen. I meant in other areas. If he is struggling to get funding, I’m sure plenty others are. I feel like we will just see a bunch more 4-5 stories all over. I was saying hopefully we get those in areas that are not main corridors and are off to the side areas. Leave more of the main stuff for when the market corrects and give us some higher stuff then.
May 11, 20241 yr We have so much available land that 4-5 story projects are going to get though the filter no matter what.
May 11, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, GCrites said: We have so much available land that 4-5 story projects are going to get though the filter no matter what. I’m fine with them, just don’t want them in more infill spaces. I would prefer they don’t fill up along broad st and high street.
May 12, 20241 yr Quick peek at one of the new ODOT buildings rising at its Franklinton Facility From the on ramp to 70W from W Broad
May 13, 20241 yr Greenhouse (5-3-24) McDowell Place Gravity 2.0 Mt. Carmel Redevelopment apartment building McKinley Manor Starling Middle School Redevelopment Finance Fund townhomes project at the NE corner of Grubb and Sullivant Finance Fund townhomes project at the SW corner of Sullivant and Rich No movement yet at the 640 West Town apartment building Walnut street conversion project Walnut west of the conversion project A more recent house conversion project a block north of the Walnut projects Infill at SE corner of Grubb and Rich Franklinton Rising rehabs and new builds along Chicago Ave Sounder Ave shared use path bridge Shared use path extension south towards broad Path improvements south of the Sounder Ave rail underpass The new innerbelt interchange is pretty tall from southern Franklinton. It looks like something out of Dallas or Houston.
May 13, 20241 yr There was a house on walnut st that was for sale during the pandemic, for a pretty good price. Tried to get my wife to jump on it, but we missed out, I would have loved being in that area.
May 13, 20241 yr Does the City have a streetscape project lined up for East Franklinton other than Link-Us? It seems like every other developer in town is expected to replace sidewalks that were taken out during construction. Why hasn't Kaufmann been required to pour sidewalks? It seems every street they tore up has gravel and a narrow asphalt strip. When the High St. rebuild was imminent in the Short North, developers had to pour sidewalks even though they were going to be removed.
May 14, 20241 yr Crews began cutting a notch out of the wall next to the new pedestrian bridge on Souder Ave. yesterday. This will allow access to the new bridge from the new trail along Souder Ave
May 14, 20241 yr 17 hours ago, Pablo said: Does the City have a streetscape project lined up for East Franklinton other than Link-Us? It seems like every other developer in town is expected to replace sidewalks that were taken out during construction. Why hasn't Kaufmann been required to pour sidewalks? It seems every street they tore up has gravel and a narrow asphalt strip. When the High St. rebuild was imminent in the Short North, developers had to pour sidewalks even though they were going to be removed. There is a traffic signal going in at McDowell and Broad this year, I'm guessing all of the sidewalk work in front of Gravity 2 will be done as part of that work.
May 14, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, .justin said: There is a traffic signal going in at McDowell and Broad this year, I'm guessing all of the sidewalk work in front of Gravity 2 will be done as part of that work. Yeah, Franklinton is a very different area than most of the spots in Columbus. I’m sure the city figured it was smarter to wait until a bunch of work has been done before they started repairing the sidewalks. I’m excited to see the entire area in about 5 years to see what it has become. Once more of the projects along Walnut are completed they will start working their way west in Franklinton with sidewalks and road repairs.
May 14, 20241 yr 17 hours ago, CbusOrBust said: Spotted this guy tonight where River and Rich 2 will soon rise While I was in the area earlier, i ran back by the River and Rich 2 site... Looks like they've started building some type of staging area on the far west side of the site, so maybe we'll see things ramp up here soon!
May 14, 20241 yr Plan for Franklinton Music Venue Could Mean Demolition of Historic Building The latest redevelopment plan for a pair of historic buildings in Franklinton could result in the demolition of one of them. Skip Weiler, President of The Robert Weiler Company, said that the firm is working with the owners of the Blu Note Jazz Cafe to bring a music venue to 373-375 W. Rich St., a half-acre parcel that sits between the railroad tracks and the River & Rich development. The two former warehouse buildings on the property have been vacant for decade. Each of the buildings, which survived the 1913 flood, are listed on both the National Register of Historic Places and the Columbus Register of Historic Places. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/plan-for-franklinton-music-venue-could-mean-demolition-of-historic-building-bw1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 14, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Plan for Franklinton Music Venue Could Mean Demolition of Historic Building The latest redevelopment plan for a pair of historic buildings in Franklinton could result in the demolition of one of them. Skip Weiler, President of The Robert Weiler Company, said that the firm is working with the owners of the Blu Note Jazz Cafe to bring a music venue to 373-375 W. Rich St., a half-acre parcel that sits between the railroad tracks and the River & Rich development. The two former warehouse buildings on the property have been vacant for decade. Each of the buildings, which survived the 1913 flood, are listed on both the National Register of Historic Places and the Columbus Register of Historic Places. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/plan-for-franklinton-music-venue-could-mean-demolition-of-historic-building-bw1/ One being saved is better than both being demoed, but come on
May 14, 20241 yr 31 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Plan for Franklinton Music Venue Could Mean Demolition of Historic Building The latest redevelopment plan for a pair of historic buildings in Franklinton could result in the demolition of one of them. Skip Weiler, President of The Robert Weiler Company, said that the firm is working with the owners of the Blu Note Jazz Cafe to bring a music venue to 373-375 W. Rich St., a half-acre parcel that sits between the railroad tracks and the River & Rich development. "The plans are still tentative, but right now we want to create a indoor-outdoor music venue, preserving one of the buildings and demolishing one of the other buildings that is currently falling down." Cool, well, when the plans are no longer tentative, we can talk. Until then, keep working and leave the structures in place. I don't believe we are a city preserved in amber, nor do we need to be. However, we need to stop demoing things for 'tentative' plans. You need to be shovel ready before historic tear downs IMHO. Too much has been lost for literally nothing.
May 14, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, DevolsDance said: "The plans are still tentative, but right now we want to create a indoor-outdoor music venue, preserving one of the buildings and demolishing one of the other buildings that is currently falling down." Cool, well, when the plans are no longer tentative, we can talk. Until then, keep working and leave the structures in place. I don't believe we are a city preserved in amber, nor do we need to be. However, we need to stop demoing things for 'tentative' plans. You need to be shovel ready before historic tear downs IMHO. Too much has been lost for literally nothing. We have a history of tearing down for nothing. This city loves ripping things down. But they won’t rip down the crap built in the 70s-90s. I’d really like to see Broad Street in Particular restored to its former glory. Keep these big developments in former industrial sites and malls, and bring the neighborhoods back. That’s what built this city and that’s what this city needs.
May 15, 20241 yr On 5/9/2024 at 6:05 PM, Toddguy said: It is an unexpected location, but I love it. I agree, but I like the idea that development is trickling more west. Looking at the map, Cental and Glenwood both are good solid streets connecting Broad and Sullivant, this could be the start of something in West Franklinton, and continually cleaning up and elevating the area.
May 16, 20241 yr Over the last few days, crews have been installing some new lights along the new Souder Ave trail They were lit for the first time last night -giving us a peek at what the project will look like once complete
May 17, 20241 yr 511 W Town street proposal Not super detailed renderings Proposed Work Description: The project proposes a lot combination of six parcels along W. Town St. and construction of a four-story, 85-unit apartment building with covered and surface parking. The development will feature green spaces, bike storage, and enhanced/ADA pedestrian access. Proposed Details: • Demolition of industrial style buildings between 511 and 541 W Town St. • Paving of the alley between W. Walnut and W. Town St. (the length of the building) • Creation of two surface lots (one on the east side of Mead Alley, and other along W. Walnut St.) • Elimination of one of the two curb cuts along W. Town St. • Green space at the corner of Mead Alley and W Town. St. (located between new surface lot and street) • Residential Units: o 73 one-bedroom units (ranging from 405 to 659 SF) o 12 efficiency units (ranging from 352 to 433 SF) o 85 total parking spaces (71 covered, 14 surface)
May 17, 20241 yr 550 W Broad St Proposed Development - just massing renderings, no detailed renders yet Proposed Work Description: The proposal is for a five-story, mixed-use development featuring commercial/retail space along West Broad Street, structured parking at grade to the north, and four floors of residential units above. The development includes a small, elevated outdoor space for residents. The proposal includes: • New 5 story mixed use building: o 1 story internal parking structure (43 spaces) Two proposed garage entrances (new curb cuts) along N. Mill St. o 4 stories of multi-family residential 64 of units TBD o Elevated patio space for future tenant use Located on the side/rear of the structure along N. Gift St. o 1800sf commercial space on ground floor Located on the corner of w Broad and N. Mill St. o Street trees along W. Broad St. • Demolition of existing buildings on site
May 17, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: 511 W Town street proposal Not super detailed renderings Proposed Work Description: The project proposes a lot combination of six parcels along W. Town St. and construction of a four-story, 85-unit apartment building with covered and surface parking. The development will feature green spaces, bike storage, and enhanced/ADA pedestrian access. Proposed Details: • Demolition of industrial style buildings between 511 and 541 W Town St. • Paving of the alley between W. Walnut and W. Town St. (the length of the building) • Creation of two surface lots (one on the east side of Mead Alley, and other along W. Walnut St.) • Elimination of one of the two curb cuts along W. Town St. • Green space at the corner of Mead Alley and W Town. St. (located between new surface lot and street) • Residential Units: o 73 one-bedroom units (ranging from 405 to 659 SF) o 12 efficiency units (ranging from 352 to 433 SF) o 85 total parking spaces (71 covered, 14 surface) Love this. The way to solve affordable is building more market rate, and these one beds are great for young pros starting their lives downtown!
May 17, 20241 yr Land-Grant Extension opens today at Gravity Park LAND-GRANT EXTENSION 458 CHAPEL ALLEY COLUMBUS, OH 43215 https://landgrantbrewing.com/extension/
May 27, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, columbus17 said: 11 story tower is now a 20 story, 169 micro living tower. ? is that for the West Franklinton proposal?
May 27, 20241 yr 36 minutes ago, jonoh81 said: ? is that for the West Franklinton proposal? Yes. Just spoke with the developer again this afternoon about it.
May 27, 20241 yr 52 minutes ago, columbus17 said: Yes. Just spoke with the developer again this afternoon about it. Certainly interesting, and incredibly ambitious for the location and the current neighborhood conditions. I don't necessarily see it being approved, though. The Franklinton Commission is more open to taller, denser development than most neighborhoods, but I can easily see this being a bridge too far for even them. 11 stories was already arguably pushing it. I'd love for it to happen and to be a true catalyst for this part of Franklinton, though. When I always talk about maximizing potential of sites, this is what I am talking about, but even I'm pleasantly surprised. That doesn't happen that much. Is it possible he's proposing this so that when he gets the opposing feedback, he can go back to the height he actually wanted in the first place and claim compromise? I think that's also a good strategy. Better to cut it in half at 20 than at 11. Edited May 27, 20241 yr by jonoh81
May 27, 20241 yr On 5/7/2024 at 8:19 AM, CbusOrBust said: Vertical at Rich and Skidmore Townhomes at Rich and Skidmore
May 27, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, jonoh81 said: Certainly interesting, and incredibly ambitious for the location and the current neighborhood conditions. I don't necessarily see it being approved, though. The Franklinton Commission is more open to taller, denser development than most neighborhoods, but I can easily see this being a bridge too far for even them. 11 stories was already arguably pushing it. I'd love for it to happen and to be a true catalyst for this part of Franklinton, though. When I always talk about maximizing potential of sites, this is what I am talking about, but even I'm pleasantly surprised. That doesn't happen that much. Is it possible he's proposing this so that when he gets the opposing feedback, he can go back to the height he actually wanted in the first place and claim compromise? I think that's also a good strategy. Better to cut it in half at 20 than at 11. They're not playing ball at all, so I highly doubt a compromise. The meetings are quite interesting from what I've heard...
May 28, 20241 yr On 4/19/2024 at 4:39 PM, CbusOrBust said: Demolition started today at the old Inn Towne Motel on W Broad Demo work resumed today at the old Inn Towne Motel on W Broad after a recent pause of just over a month
May 28, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: Demo work resumed today at the old Inn Towne Motel on W Broad after a recent pause of just over a month Good. Love seeing these 70s/80s structures knocked down.
May 29, 20241 yr 13 hours ago, columbus17 said: Good. Love seeing these 70s/80s structures knocked down. It was built in 1953.
May 29, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, Pablo said: It was built in 1953. I was going to say it has old National Road pre-interstate vibes
May 30, 20241 yr 24 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: Inn Towne Motel almost completely down! Maybe another day or two to go What is replacing this? I don’t remember seeing anything for this development.
May 30, 20241 yr 59 minutes ago, VintageLife said: What is replacing this? I don’t remember seeing anything for this development. Beat me to it haha.
May 31, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, columbus17 said: Beat me to it haha. Is it this? https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2021/04/27/developers-propose-15-story-tower-west-broad-street-franklinton/7396813002/
May 31, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, smjjms said: Is it this? https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2021/04/27/developers-propose-15-story-tower-west-broad-street-franklinton/7396813002/ That project was shelved and they sold the land. The one story building at the corner of Gift and Broad is now a charter school.
May 31, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, VintageLife said: What is replacing this? I don’t remember seeing anything for this development. I haven't seen anything approved for this site as of yet.
May 31, 20241 yr 26 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: Demo on the structure next to Rehab Tavern on W Town is complete I had no idea this was happening, do we know what is going there? Just some more housing?
June 1, 20241 yr Homeport's McDowell Place apartments in Franklinton now welcoming residents New Franklinton apartments from Homeport are ready for residents. Construction at Homeport's McDowell Place, at 77 McDowell St. across from the mixed-use Gravity development, is now complete. The $14 million, 50-unit development is walkable to many neighborhood amenities. Homeport started work on the apartments in 2020, when the organization got design approval and later demolished the long-vacant church that used to stand at this site. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/05/31/mcdowell-place-in-franklinton.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 1, 20241 yr 43 minutes ago, Pablo said: ^Lots of empty lots/building sites in that photo. Yeah, Franklinton is going to look insane in 5-10 years
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