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Updated rendering of the high and lane project. It’s crappy quality so zooming in doesn’t do much. If the new building looks decent, this could be a good development, IMO. 

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1 minute ago, VintageLife said:

Updated rendering of the high and lane project. It’s crappy quality so zooming in doesn’t do much. If the new building looks decent, this could be a good development, IMO. 

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What is that, 11 stories? My eyes hurt after trying to count the floors. It's good to see they are saving the historic buildings, but I can only imagine the pushback this will get. How dare they try to build something taller than 6 stories.

2 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

What is that, 11 stories? My eyes hurt after trying to count the floors. It's good to see they are saving the historic buildings, but I can only imagine the pushback this will get. How dare they try to build something taller than 6 stories.

It says 12 floors, which is what it should be for a major corner. Hopefully there isn’t much pushback with the height. 

/\ Here are some higher res images of the updated renderings for the High and Lane / 2180 North High development from the upcoming December UDIRB meeting:

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1 minute ago, NorthShore647 said:

/\ Here are some higher res images of the updated renderings for the High and Lane / 2180 North High development from the upcoming December UDIRB meeting:

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That little pocket park is pretty cool. Wish they would have had a little more detail on the new building. 

1 hour ago, cbussoccer said:

 

What is that, 11 stories? My eyes hurt after trying to count the floors. It's good to see they are saving the historic buildings, but I can only imagine the pushback this will get. How dare they try to build something taller than 6 stories.

I’m glad they’re keeping them too. This version is definitely an improvement, but I think it would help if they add some setbacks or something on the Lane and High corner of the building. Something so that it doesn’t look so imposing/monolithic. 

I like it - they can argue that in exchange for 12 stories they are saving the High St. facades of the row houses.

Regarding the height, in the staff report about the revised proposal "staff generally supports the proposed height and mass located on the corner of N. High Street and Lane Avenue," but notes that the development should come down in height closer to Norwich to meet the existing structures there. This doesn't necessarily mean that the board members will support the height of the development here, but it seems possible if the existing structures are preserved.

 

I believe Riverwatch and Lawrence towers on Lane are both 11 stories. The Harrison Apartments tower is 12 stories, but it'll be coming down in a couple of years anyways. This new development could then possibly become the tallest apartment building in The UD. At the proposed height, I think it may also be the tallest residential building (including dorms) to be built in The UD in ~30 years. It could be one of only a handful of new developments above 10 stories anywhere outside of downtown. 

 

The vast majority of residential development in Columbus (and many fast growing cities around the United States FWIW) top out around 7 stories as 5 over 2 podium buildings. If a developer can finance a structure like this that isn't another "5 over 2" (with over 2.5 floors of underground parking) outside of downtown, that's a good sign for Columbus. 

27 minutes ago, NorthShore647 said:

Regarding the height, in the staff report about the revised proposal "staff generally supports the proposed height and mass located on the corner of N. High Street and Lane Avenue," but notes that the development should come down in height closer to Norwich to meet the existing structures there. This doesn't necessarily mean that the board members will support the height of the development here, but it seems possible if the existing structures are preserved.

 

I believe Riverwatch and Lawrence towers on Lane are both 11 stories. The Harrison Apartments tower is 12 stories, but it'll be coming down in a couple of years anyways. This new development could then possibly become the tallest apartment building in The UD. At the proposed height, I think it may also be the tallest residential building (including dorms) to be built in The UD in ~30 years. It could be one of only a handful of new developments above 10 stories anywhere outside of downtown. 

 

The vast majority of residential development in Columbus (and many fast growing cities around the United States FWIW) top out around 7 stories as 5 over 2 podium buildings. If a developer can finance a structure like this that isn't another "5 over 2" (with over 2.5 floors of underground parking) outside of downtown, that's a good sign for Columbus. 

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two buildings in the 12 story range go up on this block of Lane. It's a perfect spot for height and density, and I'm guessing the houses behind these lots are all rentals so there really wouldn't be any push back.

 

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But yea, this area is really our best bet for something that tall outside of downtown. I mean, Franklinton could be considered outside of downtown, but I think it's becoming a continuation of it at this point.

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23 minutes ago, NorthShore647 said:

Regarding the height, in the staff report about the revised proposal "staff generally supports the proposed height and mass located on the corner of N. High Street and Lane Avenue," but notes that the development should come down in height closer to Norwich to meet the existing structures there. This doesn't necessarily mean that the board members will support the height of the development here, but it seems possible if the existing structures are preserved.

 

I believe Riverwatch and Lawrence towers on Lane are both 11 stories. The Harrison Apartments tower is 12 stories, but it'll be coming down in a couple of years anyways. This new development could then possibly become the tallest apartment building in The UD. At the proposed height, I think it may also be the tallest residential building (including dorms) to be built in The UD in ~30 years. It could be one of only a handful of new developments above 10 stories anywhere outside of downtown. 

 

The vast majority of residential development in Columbus (and many fast growing cities around the United States FWIW) top out around 7 stories as 5 over 2 podium buildings. If a developer can finance a structure like this that isn't another "5 over 2" (with over 2.5 floors of underground parking) outside of downtown, that's a good sign for Columbus. 

I can’t wait for that Harrison building to come down. Every college town seems to have that one building that they always try to polish up but it’s still a turd, this is ours.

12 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two buildings in the 12 story range go up on this block of Lane. It's a perfect spot for height and density, and I'm guessing the houses behind these lots are all rentals so there really wouldn't be any push back.

 

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But yea, this area is really our best bet for something that tall outside of downtown. I mean, Franklinton could be considered outside of downtown, but I think it's becoming a continuation of it at this point.

 

But some of those have the best parties bro

We don't know yet what the 12 story building will look like. Most likely it will look similar to the student housing built at 7th & High - both the Uncommon and the new one underway. Since Lane and High is such a prominent corner and this building will be twice as high as the neighboring buildings, wouldn't it be nice if it was an iconic structure, a beacon? The corner is not 90 degrees so there could be interesting angles. This is quite an opportunity. I spend time in Chicago and there are a ton of 12 story structures.

 

Here's an older building at Milwaukee and Damon. It's a flatiron and built in the 1920s I think. I'm not suggesting a historic replica, just a well proportioned building with a spire at the corner. It has a nice pedestrian feel on the street.

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Here's one in River North on Erie that's under construction. Very modern. I could have a better street presence though.

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Here's a 10 story under construction at Milwaukee and Irving Park. This is probably the type of building we'll end up with. It seems heavy. There's a prominent retail spot on the corner and I could see the CVS locating here.

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I'm not usually one for comparison on these forums but it is interesting timing. I'm walking around University of Minnesota this week and they have this beauty at what would be the equivalent of High or Lane. University across the street.  Historic 3 story buildings nearby etc etc. I took this last night thinking 'I'd love for this to have been at Lane and High or part of the new plaza' 

 

I like the project as proposed so no complaints there. 

 

But I can't help but think that Lane is the perfect opportunity for some true upward momentum. Or even Olentangy. And for me, it's less about height and truly maximizing density in this Corridor. 

 

I live in UD. I Love That it's the most densely populated part of the city. I'm patiently waiting for it to get even more densely populated and have a bigger city feel. 

 

I think Franklinton will become our closest thing to a 'mid-town' but I hope that the UD will keep pushing forward to maintain its place in terms of density. 

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Georgia company retools design for Lane and High development

 

An out-of-town developer is proposing a dense mixed-use project on Hight Street block bounded by Lane Avenue, Norwich Avenue and Pearl Alley.

 

The project from Athens, Georgia-based Landmark Properties would include both residential and retail space. The University Impact District Review Board will consider this proposal at its Monday evening meeting.

 

Landmark was before the board previously, but has since retooled its project. The original proposal, presented in October, would have demolished five buildings and constructed a six-story 143-unit student housing building on that block.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/12/20/georgia-company-retools.html

 

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1 hour ago, ColDayMan said:

Georgia company retools design for Lane and High development

 

An out-of-town developer is proposing a dense mixed-use project on Hight Street block bounded by Lane Avenue, Norwich Avenue and Pearl Alley.

 

The project from Athens, Georgia-based Landmark Properties would include both residential and retail space. The University Impact District Review Board will consider this proposal at its Monday evening meeting.

 

Landmark was before the board previously, but has since retooled its project. The original proposal, presented in October, would have demolished five buildings and constructed a six-story 143-unit student housing building on that block.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/12/20/georgia-company-retools.html

 

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I wonder how the meeting went, hopefully it is a positive. 

Is that a waterfall at the back of the pocket park? 

1 hour ago, Pablo said:

Is that a waterfall at the back of the pocket park? 

Kind of looks like a possible water feature 

13 hours ago, VintageLife said:

I wonder how the meeting went, hopefully it is a positive. 

Has anyone heard anything? Minutes from the October presentation are below. It seems the board would support a 12 story building.

 

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The only thing that's concerning to me about the current proposal is how steep of a drop off it is between the 12 story building and the three story historic buildings along High. It seems like there should be some type of transition or setback so that it's not just one gigantic 9-story drop-off. Also, I don't get why they want to put commercial space on Norwich, that's an odd choice. Honestly I'd rather see this historic rowhouse building on Norwich be preserved instead, but as long as they preserve the historic buildings on High Street, then I'm not that torn up about it. Although I do think there's an argument that preserving that building would help preserve the character of the whole neighborhood and it would go well with the historic church and apartments across the street.

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13 hours ago, Dblcut3 said:

The only thing that's concerning to me about the current proposal is how steep of a drop off it is between the 12 story building and the three story historic buildings along High. It seems like there should be some type of transition or setback so that it's not just one gigantic 9-story drop-off. Also, I don't get why they want to put commercial space on Norwich, that's an odd choice. Honestly I'd rather see this historic rowhouse building on Norwich be preserved instead, but as long as they preserve the historic buildings on High Street, then I'm not that torn up about it. Although I do think there's an argument that preserving that building would help preserve the character of the whole neighborhood and it would go well with the historic church and apartments across the street.

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It definitely seems overly complicated to extend this project back to Norwich... Why not just redevelop the CVS parcel and plan to renovate those other existing buildings? They can't be getting that many additional parking spots/apartments from that extension, especially when they've already gone up to 12 stories... Just add another story, dig a basement for additional parking, and leave the other existing buildings as they are

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A couple different views of Lane and Kenny

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On 12/21/2021 at 10:10 AM, Pablo said:

Has anyone heard anything? Minutes from the October presentation are below. It seems the board would support a 12 story building.

 

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Here are some comments from the December meeting. Seems they are going to have to change everything. 

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They really should just put a taller building in a smaller site and renovate the historic stuff.  Win-win.

Perfect spot for 15 stories on the corner 😀

58 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

They really should just put a taller building in a smaller site and renovate the historic stuff.  Win-win.

Exactly, just use the cvs site and put a 15+ tower and then renovate the other stuff. Seems like the commission isn’t going to let them get rid of any of the current historic building. 

Progress being made at the former Cousins site as well

 

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New residential building going up on E 9th Ave

 

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Fencing going up at the site of The Ohio State University's new lacrosse stadium!

 

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Couple different views from Lane and Kenny area

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New research highlights gender gap within research universities' top ranks

 

New research confirms what most already suspected: Higher education is lacking diverse leadership.

 

A report published Thursday by the Eos Foundation, a private foundation based in Harwich, Massachusetts, analyzed 130 R1 institutions and found that 22% of university presidents are women and just 5% are women of color. The research also found that just 8% of the universities’ boards have achieved gender parity. Fifty-eight of the schools in the study have never named a woman president.

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The Eos Foundation highlighted 13 schools as “leaders” in gender diversity based on whether they currently have a female president and provost, if they’ve had past women presidents, and based on the percentage of female cabinet members, academic deans and tenured professors. Among the top ranked schools are University of California, Santa Cruz; Princeton University; Ohio State University and University of Pennsylvania.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/01/20/university-presidents-gender-gap.html

 

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OSU's new power plant

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Crane alert at Cousins! 🚨

 

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I’m excited to watch the building race of this cousins development and the high & king development.

1 hour ago, 614love said:

I’m excited to watch the building race of this cousins development and the high & king development.

We've talked about the same thing! It does seem like they are in competition with each other.

Ohio State to spend $1.2M on 'Framework 3.0' campus development plan
 

Spending $1.2 million now will allow the university to contract with a planning consultant and engage in a 12- to 18-month process to update the existing plan, according to the university. 

“Much has changed since the completion of Framework 2.0,” university documents say. “Framework 3.0 will include more detailed planning and recommendations for the Office of Student Life for student housing, dining, recreation and support services.” 

In addition, Framework 3.0 will take into account research funding goals and needed facilities, post-pandemic space needs, transportation and mobility, deferred maintenance needs, and future needs of the Wexner Medical Center, according to the university.

A couple little updates on a couple of OSU’s projects:

 

First, CBF reports that the energy plant is behind schedule and over budget, d/t (surprise!) Covid and supply chain:

 

This major OSU construction project has been delayed
 

“A major construction project on Ohio State University's campus – the 105 megawatt combined heat and power plant that is eventuallyexpected to substantially cut the university's carbon emissions – is experiencing delays and cost increases.

 

The project, once expected to cost $278 million, now has a total project budget of $289.9 million, according to OSU. It also includes a district heating and cooling loop with a central chiller facility; that element is on schedule and on budget.

 

The facility started construction in late 2020 on 1.2 acres of university-owned land across from the OSU Veterinary Hospital. 
 

Since then, the project has experienced delays driven by Covid-19, cost, supply issues and overall project complexity, according to OSU spokesman Dan Hedman.

 

The delays mean that OSU is making other arrangements to temporarily power some of its new buildings that will eventually rely on the CHP.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/02/10/osu-combined-heat-power-plant-update.html

 

Second, the Outpatient Care Center in the Inno District had a beam-topping in December, and now there’s a video with pretty cool visuals and more details on the work that will be done there:

 

 

Crane erection at the Cousins site. Bonus OSU hospital crane at the bottom right. 
 

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Dang, that hospital tower is going to be huge. Those elevator cores still have 3-4 more levels to go I think.

On 2/10/2022 at 4:56 PM, Pablo said:

Crane erection at the Cousins site. Bonus OSU hospital crane at the bottom right. 
 

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And we’re now fully operational:

 

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9 minutes ago, aderwent said:

 

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The University Impact District Review Board, which heard the first proposal in December, is scheduled to hear the new proposal Feb. 24.

In a memo to the board, the city's planning staff supported the height of the towers, but recommended that all of the Alhambra Court be retained, along with the apartment buildings on East Norwich Avenue. 

 

6 minutes ago, Pablo said:

 

From the article:

 

That is awesome news, hopefully this makes the commission happy and it can move forward 

The Waterford Tower condo building next to the Scioto Mile is 19 floors.

And height shouldn't really be an issue since Lane has, ya know, OSU dorms that height.

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I'm really digging the height increase and the fact that the review board is in favor of the proposed towers. The precedence certainly already exists with the multiple dormitory towers on North Campus. I too would like to see all of the Alhambra Court spared, but I don't think the approval of the development should hinge on that. I do wonder why the developer is so keen on developing that section along N. Pearl, other than to maximize the amount of leasable space. Anxious to see what comes out of the meeting on February 24.

 

As an aside, I find it incredibly interesting the CVS seems to be okay with a new store void of parking and a drive-thru on this space but is apparently so vehemently committed to those aspects in another urban development.

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15 minutes ago, CMHOhio said:

I'm really digging the height increase and the fact that the review board is in favor of the proposed towers. The precedence certainly already exists with the multiple dormitory towers on North Campus. I too would like to see all of the Alhambra Court spared, but I don't think the approval of the development should hinge on that. I do wonder why the developer is so keen on developing that section along N. Pearl, other than to maximize the amount of leasable space. Anxious to see what comes out of the meeting on February 24.

 

As an aside, I find it incredibly interesting the CVS seems to be okay with a new store void of parking and a drive-thru on this space but is apparently so vehemently committed to those aspects in another urban development.

I wonder if being an out of state developer and them not owning a lot of land in Columbus makes them want to get as much out of this one as possible. It’s one of the reasons out of state developers are needed in cities. 

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