February 4, 200520 yr Well, SarahBeth, and anyone else at OSU for that matter, I have this question If you were the project manager starting tomorrow, what would you do to fill in the rest of the project? What would you do to make it specific for South Campus? not much can be done becase of the university on the outher side. first thing would be to double the sidewalk space, anyone that has walked that sidewalk during fall quarter or gamedays knows how crowded it gets. 2nd perm magazine & newspaper stands like they put in at broad & high street......in case of another riot for the buildings i would design it like how the polaris towne center strip looks, except have a oviously red brick with grey accent brick ( ya know for the osu colors) and any metal work would be in black, as it would look good with the brick colors. every store would have those industrial pull down doors to protect the business .........again in case of riots again and in terms of tennants ovioulsy ones that cater to students, like a starbucks, cup- o -joe, a borders and a few fast food resturants, but also some good bars, hey it is the university district anyways, some like 3 kegs and stuff. a rehabed udf store. siginng dog would get a biger and better store instead of how it is now stuffed off to the side, the us bank ....what would you call it, wanabee branch would be moved into a grocery store enviroment like how they are now in giant eagle and stuff. would rehab the alleys and make them a lil wider as anyone has driven them when the newport has bands unloading their gear its near impossable to get by them. and lastly better signage that its a one way south alley!!!!!!! almost ran head on into a moron going north when he had just passed a DO NOT ENTER and a ONE WAY sign when he turned, of couse was a student with a stoned look on his face. guess that explains why the police are allways driving around alot. easy money!
February 4, 200520 yr A Kroger in that South Campus BS would be perfect. I'm surprised it isn't already part of it (or somehow infused; re: destroy the Taco Bell/7-11). That would easily be the top-selling Kroger in the city if done. taco bell wont sell outherwise it would of been part of the first phase
February 4, 200520 yr Here's an article I'm sure those that are opposed to the Gateway project will love... :wink: City OKs extra $2 million for Campus Partners By Mark Ferenchik THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH Thanks to cost overruns, including $200,000 in unanticipated city-inspection charges, Columbus is spending $2 million more than planned to pay for public improvements at Campus Partners’ South Campus Gateway project. no suprise almost all city projects run over in both cost and time as any born-here resident knows. in you want anything done on time and underbudget (not counting incentives to get get done on time or earlyer, like odot did for 670) then you would have to shut down the whole university district area
February 4, 200520 yr Is there any word when "character" will be installed? Just wondering. thats up for bids now as we speak, odd of being installed.....0%
February 4, 200520 yr Author Hey bud, I don't mean to sound offensive, but you've got to do something about your punctuation and grammar. I can barely understand the information you're trying to convey. As far as new establishments in the Gateway Center go, I still say a full-service grocery store, a furniture store, discount clothing retailers, and some more fast-casual restuarants and an ice cream parlor would be perfect.
February 4, 200520 yr not true, actualy since polaris is a state route (SR 750) columbus city code dident play into it uhhh, i'm not really sure why you would think that....
February 4, 200520 yr not much can be done becase of the university on the outher side. first thing would be to double the sidewalk space, anyone that has walked that sidewalk during fall quarter or gamedays knows how crowded it gets. do you mean double the sidewalk on the eastern side of high st.? the only way to do that is to move the street over. for the buildings i would design it like how the polaris towne center strip looks, except have a oviously red brick with grey accent brick ( ya know for the osu colors) and any metal work would be in black, as it would look good with the brick colors. good god no, keep the polaris crap away from my neighborhood and in terms of tennants ovioulsy ones that cater to students, like a starbucks, cup- o -joe, a borders and a few fast food resturants, are you talking about taking down all the ones there now or just adding more? but also some good bars, hey it is the university district anyways, some like 3 kegs and stuff. yes it does need good bars, but not the 3 kegs kind of shit a rehabed udf store. there is nothing wrong with any of the udf stores, why waste money on rehabbing one siginng dog would get a biger and better store instead of how it is now stuffed off to the side, i prefered the spot it was in before campus partners shoved a knife down its throat the us bank ....what would you call it, wanabee branch would be moved into a grocery store enviroment like how they are now in giant eagle and stuff. the one at 16th by bernies? what is wrong with it? would rehab the alleys and make them a lil wider.... it could use a repaving, but widen? its just an alley, not a street. so are you seriously saying you want campus partners to do their dirty work all the way to lane ave.? if they do end up doing that then i'll be moving
February 5, 200520 yr ^Well, at least they are ideas.. They are still better than what a university with bottomless pockets partnered with a city with infinite power to seize property are coming up with. At this point I really do not want it to fail..I just don't want people to ever think it was worth 10 years and $151 Million dollars. SO THEY WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN but they will
February 6, 200520 yr not true, actualy since polaris is a state route (SR 750) columbus city code dident play into it, wanna blame anyone blame ODOT, still waiting to see how the 2nd Polaris exit is going to work,..........my guess.............IT WONT. most of the traffic isent even for the mall as they say it is and one question, what about germain ampatheater, that ramp wont help that traffic any, and if anything mess it up even more as im shure they will build some dumb connector to bring them into it. personaly if people had half a brain that head that way to germain they would come up cleveland ave then west on polaris instead of waising gas sitting in the line comming off 71-n dident matter to me got a laugh out it every concert. esp when it was like 5 minutes till the concert started and it was still backed up to 270, i think thats why they stop charging for parking.....or maybe they finaly marked up the tickets enough to cover it. be nice hovever if they paved that damn lot. just wait till we have out first concert and it start to rain during it, can you say mud bog ODOT has nothing to do with sidewalks and street width at Polaris. Oh 750 was extended to I-71 after Columbus and Delaware County completed financing the construction of the road (Now ODOT is resposible for upkeep of Polaris Pkwy/Powell Rd from I-71 west) Feel free to check the Dispatch archives on this. As for the new interchange helping or not helping, we'll see. If it can keep traffic from 71 NB to Polaris/Powell/750 WB freeflowing then it's a success. If not? Someone will ask for a do over.
February 7, 200520 yr ^thanks for explaining it, i didnt know how to...just that columbus is to deal with the sidewalks and i hope osugoose wasn't scared off or anything, we could always use more posters here
February 7, 200520 yr For people who were not around South Campus before campus partners, Bernies is a good example of what the whole area was like. Bernie's celebrates 30th birthday By Kate Pivoriunas Published: Monday, February 7, 2005 When descending the stairs into the dimly lit basement that is Bernie's Distillery, it's hard not to notice the graffiti on the walls, and the mom and pop feel in the quaint café. The history that subsists in this underground club is as thick and unique as the wood that makes up their 30-year-old booths, and as live as the bands that shake their stage after dark. Marking its 30th anniversary this month, Bernie's Distillery located at 1896 N. High St., opened in the closing years of the Vietnam War. Originally part of Wellington Hall, which was built in 1928, the building was once a headquarters for the Ohio State Student Alumni Association through the 1930s, and later as an acoustic café/recording studio, harboring artists like local music legend Willie Pheonix. "It's never been corporate," said employee Paul Neikirk, who has worked at Bernie's since the early 1980s. More at http://www.thelantern.com/
February 8, 200520 yr Author Just an update on the office building in Upper Arlington...they have already torn down one of the two buildings. There's yellow tape around the other two, both of which should be coming down in the next week or two. Also looks like some more development is on its way, this time around the Kingsdale Center, which despite what the article says, has been gaining back tenants, including a Cici's Pizza, a Quizno's, a PetsMart, and an outdoors store. The center remains anchored by a Lazarus and a Giant Eagle.
February 9, 200520 yr Any pics of these ugly buildings? I know I've seen them, I just can't place them.
March 6, 200520 yr THE GATEWAY GAMBLE Will Campus Partners find the right mix? By Aaron Marshall / March 3, 2005 The Other Paper Ohio State University doesn't like to gamble. Like most major institutions, OSU likes to head into major projects with a precise sense of how things will turn out. But as the steel beams rise, the concrete hardens and the $150 million South Campus Gateway project finally takes shape along High Street after nine looooong years, it's easy to forget that getting it built isn't the same as making it a success. "It's a gamble, but it's always been a gamble," said Mark Hatch, the former head of the campus-based Community Crime Patrol and one-time board member for Campus Partners, the non-profit group given the task of revitalizing the area. "Everybody could have just thrown their hands up in the air and said, 'We can't do anything about what happens east of campus.' Or they could have tried to do what they did, which is do something bold, unique and big." If the project works right, Gateway will be seen as the catalyst that turned around a blighted, decrepit part of town. It'll be the "pebble in a pond that sends out waves of additional reinvestment," in the words of Campus Partners President Terry Foegler. But if things don't pan out just right - and even some of its fans consider that a distinct possibility - Gateway could become another multi-million dollar revitalization effort gone bust. Can you say City Center II? Foegler knows how high the stakes are for his five-building development spread over 7.4 acres. He knows that simply building 500,000 square feet of apartments, offices and retail space doesn't guarantee that people will want to spend time in them. More at http://www.theotherpaper.com
March 6, 200520 yr What's more, Dawson believes Campus Partners exacerbated the problems of South Campus as it acquired buildings and emptied them out. "A lot the crime and the dumpiness came from five years of them buying property and just boarding it up," he said. Foegler scoffed at this notion, saying only about 50 percent of the businesses in the area were viable by the time Campus Partners began its acquisitions in the late '90s. He cited a BW-3 restaurant and bar that sat in middle of the redevelopment zone: "They were paying rent, but they weren't open because they couldn't find anyone who was willing to go work down there." 'bout sums it up. I love Columbus, but it is probably the only city that can take an urban neighborhood and turn it into a lifestyle center. About BW-3, and all of South Campus after Papa Joes burned down, noone wanted to invest in South Campus after Campus Partners took over. They would continually say they were going to acquire all of the property buy buying businesses or use of emminent domain. That 50% figure he is using must also include businesses that CP bought and would not rent them out anymore. Best way to insure an area is blighted before you go to the courts is to make it blighted. Also, after reading the quotes from E. Gordon Gee, what exactly has Campus Partners done for student housing on South Campus, besides make it so unwelcoming that students have moved to other parts of C-bus?
March 31, 200520 yr Author Nope, still waiting for news. The last time I passed by the project it looked like most exterior work is just about finished. I think the only firm tenants right now are Drexel, B&N, Footlocker, Happy Greek, and Panera.
April 23, 200520 yr Author Article printed in The Lantern concerning the Gateway Project. Nothing new really, but an update nonetheless. One new eatery though, Pot Belly Sandwich Works of Chicago looks to be confirmed. One warning though there is a LOT of fluff in this article from Campus Partners, you'll need a scuba tank and goggles to wade through the corporate bullsh*t: Gateway Project to benefit students soon By Stephanie Bergh Published: Friday, April 22, 2005 It is not hard to notice the construction of new buildings along High Street between Chittenden and Ninth avenues. While it might have been an eyesore and caused confusion along the sidewalk and street, an improvement is fast approaching. The $150 million South Campus Gateway project is coming to a finish, and is expected to be up and running in fall 2005, said Stephen Sterrett, director of community relations of Campus Partners. Campus Partners, which is affiliated with Ohio State but is a separate nonprofit organization, is the force behind the project. "The purpose of Campus Partners is to spearhead improvements in the quality of life in the university district," Sterrett said. "This is done through community-based planning, facilitation or improving municipal services, and specific projects, such as Gateway." Founded in 1995, Campus Partners began its initial ideas for redeveloping High Street in 1995 and 1996, Sterrett said. In 1998 and 1999, he explained, a design competition and an agreement from the university got the project underway, and land was acquired for the site. Soon to follow was the demolition of the old buildings and construction of the new structures. More at http://www.thelantern.com
April 23, 200520 yr I've only posted things like 5 times, and they were a while ago, but I'm glad to be a part of the discussion. That being said... I know I'm going to catch a lot of slack for this but....WHY DOES EVERYONE BITCH ABOUT CAMPUS PARTNERS SOOO MUCH!! Do you really think what they're doing is so bad? I will admit that I didn't live in Columbus before they bought up the land, but I have heard that it was just like some of the bars up on North Campus. I, along with many of the current students here, never knew South Campus like that and most kids don't mind that there aren't bars down there. They either go up north or drink at house parties. Is it so bad that there aren't 1651941614 bars on High St.? Everyone complains about what they're doing, about how they tore up an urban neighborhood to build a lifestyle center...are they really doing that though. When those buildings that were there before were built, weren't they built with the purpose of being filled with retail? So what that they weren't all built at the same time, they were built for the same thing. Also, so students have to walk like two-three blocks up High St. so that they can go to 4 Kegs or Panini's...so what? Kids flocked to Old School last year (and still do as far as I know), and that's on Lane! So is it really so bad that campus lost a few bars down south? Business is probably doing much better for the ones up north. Also, being that I've heard that these bars were just like the ones on North Campus, is it so bad that they are gone? Damn, there's so much less broken glass and people screaming qoutes from Napolean Dynamite on South High. If only those bars had stayed... :cry: And another thing...they're also added new (albeit expensive, probably prohibitively so for students) residential to the neighborhood My point is, that, because of Campus Partners A) tore down old retail to build new retail...is that so bad? Are we supposed to keep the world looking exactly the same way it did in 1945? B)the loss of these bars with character gave other bars with character more business C)Now there's only one part of High St. that shimmers with broken beer bottles D)there's some nicer residential in there for wealthier students...is that so bad? I think that sometimes we (myself included) who feel so passionately about urban landscapes forget that when old things are built, they are meant to last for a long time, but not forever. It's ok to tear down some older buildings sometimes. We can't just mothball the whole country so that we can save every old building, most of which were just meaningless infill when they were built. So Campus Partners did something new with the area? Is that THAT big of a deal? Someone someday will do something new with it, and maybe people then will bitch about them tearing out the Gateway buildings. I'm sure if you had suggested they tear down the pre-Campus Partners buildings ten years after they were built, no one would have cared. Everything has to be new sometime. Does everyone think that they should have just let the area turn back into a undercode fire-hazard littered with vomit and broken glass (to those of you thinking I'm overreacting or exagerating, I'm not. Every weekend my apartment building on Frambes looks like that.... EVERY WEEKEND!) I for one am glad that somebody bought the land and turned it into something other than loud-ass bars. At least there will be one part of campus that doesn't look like a riot/hurricane/war/rainstorm of vomit rolled through there every weekend. Not everyone will like it (as evident by the previous posts everyone has made), but at least the University area will stop being a "one-trick horse" consisting of nothing but bars, as it would seem some people want it to be.
April 23, 200520 yr Sorry for the two in a row :-( I forgot to mention that this area looks much nicer and doesn't get a bad rep if High St. isn't constantly littered everywhere with post-bar trash. Thanks
April 24, 200520 yr I know I'm going to catch a lot of slack for this but....WHY DOES EVERYONE BITCH ABOUT CAMPUS PARTNERS SOOO MUCH!! Do you to try and sum it up quickly: campus partners owned most of the area before all this, they decided to kick out several independent locally owned businesses. the reason was because the area was blighted, but it was still fixable, not dresden after ww2, just needed some help. the cost is like $180,000,000 or whatever it is, and there was an empty field of dirt for years. you mentioned bars a lot, but that is hardly an issue at all. (by the way, 4 kegs and panini? yuck...i'll take bernies, larry's or northberg tavern...)
April 24, 200520 yr Oh I hate 4 kegs, panini's, old school a lot too. I used to like larry's until they started checking id's more closely/often (i have the worst fake on the planet...and it's from FL :-() once i turn the big 2-1 though anyway, ok...i see why you have a problem with CP for that reason...but how did the land pass into their hands in the first place? why didn't anyone else take it before they did with the idea of redevelopment? also, why haven't many locally-owned/operated places taken up places in the GC? Since there has been very little public outcry of outrage (except for here....but most people i know know nothing of this site), it leads me to believe that the students didn't really appreciate local business anyway. I know some places moved to locations that aren't full of suburban transplants like the university is where they are probably much more valued than the suburban chain stores that most students here want. I find it funny that most people here think that Cleveland/Cincinnati are hella gross, but whenever they are asked, they say that they are from one of those two places. The suburbanite students here want those things because they came here for the college, not because they wanted to live in the city. they have no intention on staying any longer than they have to in columbus or any city for that matter. the week after they graduate they are back to the 'burbs. And while i would rather the retail NOT cater to them, i'm outnumbered, so until they decide that they love urban living (see my mission in convincing people that ohio is cool in the city discussions area if you haven't already), things around here is going to cater to suburban expats. All the locally owned stuff i am totally willing to go to Short North to get anyway, if only to get away from the guys who make gay jokes on the street and then hug all over their friends and tell each other "i love you"when they're drunk because they think it's funny (i hate hypocrisy :whip:). good riddance to these people. let them have the gateway center...that's what most of the people on campus want is stuff they can get anywhere else in the country. maybe it'll take a little business away from easton :-D besides, those in the know have short north. I know that the value of locally owned and operated business can't be measured, but there are still plenty of locally owned/operated places both around campus and the short north. Is it really all that bad that we lost a few blocks of run-down buildings (that i know could have been fixed...but they weren't) and replaced with new buildings with some different stuff in it? I know most of the places that were doing well there (magnolia thunderpussy, for example) moved to Short North, and seem to be doing quite fine there. It's still not that far away from campus. it's like 5 minutes away by COTA bus, and the people that shopped there still shop there. and besides, if campus partners hadn't bought it....who knows what would have happened. yeah, i know that it COULD have been lots of fun, quirky shops, but A) they might not have done well and B) that might never have happened at all. Too many woulda/shoulda/coulda's don't help anything. At least someone did something, rather than just letting the old buildings sit fallow waiting for something cool to come in. and who knows, maybe the barnes & noble there is just a place holder for something much cooler. at least having a big chain there as a possible temporary place holder is better than having nothing there at all. Is the problem with CP because of its unreasonable amount of time spent redeveloping, or that the redevelopment occured at all? I can understand the first, but i have reluctantly given up on the second because that is what the market is here.
April 24, 200520 yr In 1995 the building that housed Papa Joes, Waterbeds & Stuff and Off Campus burned down. At the time South campus was just about 100% occupied with retail. College stuff that served the neighborhood, like Pizza places, bars/music venues, record stores, banks, etc. The area was lively, but it needed help. At the time, E. Gordon Gee thought if they got rid of all bars, all underage drinking would go away. So when Papa Joes burned down, the university rushed in and bought the land. They knocked down the buildings and left it a dirt parking lot. This is where I started having problems with Campus Partners They announced to the world they were going to acquire all of the land on south campus by purchasing it or via eminent domain and build a big Easton type mall. Just by decaling that, no one wanted to invest in an area, if they knew their business would be gone in a couple of years. To be able to use eminent domain they have to get the area considered blighted, and a definition of blighted was a large percent of empty storefronts. So Campus Partners needed to drive the businesses out that were there. If a business would not agree to the first low ball offer CP gave them, there lives became more complicated. All of a sudden, Liquor Patrol would be going in undercover a few times a week, along with health departments, building inspectors etc. Many of the bars lost their liquor license, so they went out of business, and since no one wanted to invest in South Campus because of CP's threat; the building owner was forced to sell. And so, to compliment their dirt lot, now Campus Partners had these empty buildings, with broken out windows and homeless people living there. I personally know that people approached CP about opening businesses in the buildings they owned, but they refused to rent them out, because they were manufacturing a legally blighted area. They took a neighborhood that needed help and turned it into a ghetto. Don’t forget this was during the best economy this country has seen maybe ever, CP said they looked into trying to revitalize the neighborhood, with some of the good business owners who were there in '95, but they decided against it, because it would take too long They never wanted to help the neighborhood; they wanted a shinny new mini Easton. They did not want Insomnia, they wanted Starbucks, they did not want Skully's they wanted Applebee’s, they just did not want Not Al's, Maxwell's, the Cornerstone or Papa Joes. At the time CP was spending over $100,000,000.00 in university money, tuition went up over 30%. They had unlimited power and unlimited resources, and they bulldozed a neighborhood and made a mall. I made a post earlier about the similarity of South Campus to the Short North area along High Street. That was another area that needed help in the late 80's early 90's. I prefer the Short North type of revitalization. That said, I hope the developement is OK, but I really hope that they ditch their plans for "helping" North Campus
April 25, 200520 yr I'm sure there is a thesis or dissertation or two concern "South Campus" floating around Thompson Library as well.
April 26, 200520 yr my tirade continues. It seems like everytime the Lantern publishes CP propaganda I get fired up.... :shoot: Anywho, this was from the CP website as a news update. "Students want to be treated as adults" And CP might be generous enough to consider it! Welcome to my neighborhood, here is the code of conduct! Don't think about loitering and trying to read a book on valuable retail space, especially if you are just an undergrad. Students discuss Gateway safety plans The Campus Partners Student Advisory Board met April 14 with Elliot Boxerbaum of Security/Risk Management Consultants to discuss the security and public safety planning for South Campus Gateway. The students felt that Gateway should be welcoming to everyone. If a code of conduct were adopted, it should be implemented cautiously. Students want to be treated as adults. Campus Partners also is likely to hold a similar session with neighborhood residents later this spring. More at http://www.thelantern.com
April 26, 200520 yr Good Lord. The comparisons to the "outdoor shopping mall" have come full circle. People, there already is a code of conduct. It's the laws of Columbus, Franklin County, Ohio, and the United States.
April 26, 200520 yr Author Gateway has signed on another new food venue. I'm not sure why The Dispatch says its the first, since Happy Greek and Panera I believe have already confirmed to the project: Gateway signs Mad Mex In what appears to be its first confirmed food venue, Campus Partners' South Campus Gateway project has signed Pittsburgh-based Mad Mex to a lease for 4,600 square feet. Cary Klein, chief executive for bigBurrito Restaurant Group, said he has "the prime spot'' adjacent to the planned movie theater. Part of the location includes an all-year patio. The opening for the seven-day-a-week restaurant is planned for late August. Mad Mex outlets can be found near other major universities, including Penn State University, University of Pennsylvania and University of Pittsburgh. The unit near Ohio State University will be the first outside Pennsylvania. More at http://www.dispatch.com
April 27, 200520 yr Yipee! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 27, 200520 yr is mad mex a sit down kind of restaurant? i looked their website and the burritos were like $9... if it is that expensive, then i doubt many students will go their very often
April 27, 200520 yr It looks like there is going to be very little geared toward undergrads. Well maybe finish line.
April 27, 200520 yr ^yeah. even though i don't like this whole project, i still hope it isn't a total disaster... with the way they are going, however, it just seems like it will fail
April 27, 200520 yr I dont know, it depends on what perspective you are looking at. If they wanted to reduce the number of undergrad students living on south campus, and populate it with law and med school students, then it is working. And, that may not be such a bad goal. But I could think of about 1000 better ways to do it than the mega hammer approach they took to the neighborhood. What happens if all these high end retailers dont make it and they pull out. Does this mall becomes city center two in ten years? What do you do then? And why does an area a mile from the center of the city need a lifestyle center anyways?
April 27, 200520 yr that's what i meant, if the retailers don't make it...unless someone is else quick to jump in, then it could make thing bad
May 3, 200520 yr Author Quick update, more food venues: Gateway to get Ugly Florida sources say Ugly Tuna Saloona, currently with one unit in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., soon will become a chain of two. The second is in the works for the Campus Partners South Campus Gateway project. The restaurant, with a menu heavy on fish and shellfish, is noted for seafood steampots, conch fritters and fresh-shucked oysters. Potbelly to open at Gateway Potbelly Sandwich Works, a Chicago-based chain of 76 company-owned restaurants in eight states, will open what it calls a "quirky sandwich joint" in the Campus Partners’ South Campus Gateway project in July. Marketing chief David Selby said the menu includes desserts and hand-dipped ice cream for shakes. More at http://www.dispatch.com
May 4, 200520 yr ^i can say for sure that i won't be going to the ugla tuna saloona...anyways, here's the next one in Eddie George new Gateway tenant Wednesday, May 04, 2005 Tracy Turner THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH A former Ohio State University football standout and Heisman Trophy winner is expected to open a restaurant bearing his name in a new OSU campus-area retail development. Two sources close to the project said running back Eddie George, most recently of the Dallas Cowboys, will open a sports-themed restaurant at the South Campus Gateway complex on N. High Street. The restaurant would be George's second; the first, the Eddie George Sports Grille, is in Nashville, Tenn. That restaurant is described as featuring an eclectic menu, offering salads, pastas, steaks and chicken wings, according to its Web site. The Gateway project includes 225,000 square feet of retail space with about 35 entertainment venues, restaurants, shops and service businesses. The Gateway project will include about 180 apartments and a parking garage with 1,200 spaces. Major retail tenants include a Barnes & Noble bookstore and an eight-screen art cinema operated by Drexel Theatres Group. Tenants announced so far include Happy Greek, Finish Line, Mad Mex, Panera Bread, Pot Belly Sandwich Works and Ugly Tuna Saloona. More at http://www.dispatch.com
May 5, 200520 yr here's the next batch... Gateway tenant list grows with restaurants, bar, bath shop Thursday, May 05, 2005 Tracy Turner THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH Eddie George may have played football in Tennessee and Texas, but his heart remains in Columbus. The former Ohio State University standout and 1995 Heisman Trophy winner yesterday made official his plans to develop a restaurant in the OSU-area South Campus Gateway project. Three other tenants new to the project - Lave, a bath store, Pesto Creative Italian Bistro and the Skye Bar - also were added to the tenant list. In doing so, they helped the project reach midfield in terms of spaced leased by Campus Partners, Gateway's developer. George said he will open Eddie George's Grille 27 - named for the number he wore at OSU - in a building at Chittenden Avenue and N. High Street just in time for the start of OSU's fall quarter. He said he wanted to give back to the university that has given so much to him. His restaurant makes a total of 11 retailers announced that will lead the retail development, Gateway's developers said yesterday. More at http://www.dispatch.com
May 5, 200520 yr Well, I hope the local companies do OK. It still seems like a better retail mix for Kingsdale shopping center rather than High Street. Still no grocery store, record store, or any of the original businesses from the old neighborhood. Has anyone been to that Frog Bear and Wild Boar club? What is it like?
May 5, 200520 yr He said he wanted to give back to the university that has given so much to him. Umm...I think he meant to say make a lot of money.
May 30, 200520 yr ^probably not many, as the lantern had an article mentioning how one place would 'cater to the late night crowd, staying open until 9 or 10 pm'... wtf. anyway, the sidewalk has been planted on one side, and trees were put in. most of the exterior work on the high street buildings is finished...and the first sign, panera bread coming soon, hahahah
May 30, 200520 yr summit thx so much for the map, that was very helpful to picture it. i'm glad to hear at least a few local plces are moving in among the dopey chains. eddie george's is a cool idea. i agree it doe not seem student oriented enough, but i woulodn't worry, if and when some misguided yuppie shop bombs they can learn a lesson and always replace it with something more student friendly. each spot is just a retail box space and always open to changes!
June 6, 200520 yr This project is meant for graduate and professional students. Some of you OSU undergrads will just have to accept that. Also when I was an undergraduate, I had the misfortune of living above (and slightly adjacent to) a bar. It was noisy until 1-2 am each night. It was difficult to get to bed and up early on time. Now for some of you, you may think, "what's the problem"? Isn't college all about drinking until 3 am, then waking up at 12 the next day and skipping all your classes so you can drink some more? Believe it or not, those graduate and professional students actually have real work to do. Many of these people need to be in bed by 10 so they can wake up early and go to class at 8:30. Also, they need a quiet studying environment. Many of them have wives, and they don't want to live in a place that has a bunch of drunk frat boys stumbling around outside in the evenings. There's enough of that kind of self-induced squalor at OSU. As for yuppie stores, the apartments are renting for $800+ for a 1 bedroom, so you tell me. It seems like they're attracting the wealthier grad./professional students, many of whom probably now live at the Meridian, so they will also have the kind of retail that these people want. I won't be living there myself since it's out of my price range. With increased supply prices have to come down, so some of the other nice apartment complexes nearby might have to drop their rents slightly. There's definitely a lack of good housing in and around OSU, especially for grad./professional students. Also with this kind of money coming in from renters and probably also from business tenents, it seems like the whole venture may turn a good profit for the university (as opposed to subsidizng the rents of yuppies), so claims by undergraduates that your tuition money is going toward this are unfounded. The only problem with this project is that it's not big enough. I really wish they were building more units, because then likely the prices would be lower. Right now these will be highest in demand resedential units amongst the medical and law students, and those few with the most money will be the ones to get them.
June 6, 200520 yr Some of you OSU undergrads will just have to accept that. other than maybe one or two people who have chimed in then left the thread, almost none of us are undergrad students. and the frat boys hooting and hollering annoys me just as much as it annoys you :) oh, and by not big enough, did you mean you want taller buildings, or that you wish the project took up more land? just curious
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