2 minutes ago, amped91 said:

Looks like replace it:

 

You beat me to it.

Starlab space station's science park at Ohio State airport to create 50 jobs
 

“The terrestrial science lab paired with the private space station under development by a NASA-backed coalition is expected to create 50 high-paying STEM jobs when it opens at Ohio State University Airport. 

 

Average salaries would top $118,000 at George Washington Carver Science Park, a key element of the Starlab station, according to data from the Ohio Department of Development.

 

The Ohio Tax Credit Authority on Monday awarded a 10-year, 2% tax credit on payroll created by the project, expected to grow to $5.9 million annually over the next five years.

 

That would result in up to $1.25 million total savings over the life of the deal for Voyager Space Force LLC if it creates the pledged jobs and meets other terms, such as maintaining operations at the airport site for 13 years.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/12/07/starlab-osu-airport-tax-credit-jobs.html

A few updated renderings for the UBC redev on Lane. Looks like a public mural was added, a height step back, bigger windows, and slightly reconfigured entrance. 
 

14 minutes ago, amped91 said:

A few updated renderings for the UBC redev on Lane. Looks like a public mural was added, a height step back, bigger windows, and slightly reconfigured entrance. 
 

That’s not horrible looking 

I agree the big windows are a much needed addition. Still, they’re some really cheap materials in the second picture. I wish they would continue with bigger windows and drop the Soviet style design. 

I've been very critical of this project, but it's definitely moving in the right direction.

 

However that said, the punched windows are still overall too small, and 7 stories of cheap grey fiber cement panels still dominate every major view except the one which is cherry-picked for their rendering

 

 

Energy Advancement and Innovation Center

 

 

 

On 12/13/2022 at 12:10 PM, amped91 said:

A few updated renderings for the UBC redev on Lane. Looks like a public mural was added, a height step back, bigger windows, and slightly reconfigured entrance. 
 

Did they only provide updates on the High Street-facing portion? The last rendering from Norwich shows what looks like walk-ups that would be the rear portion of the Lane Ave-facing portion. Any idea if they're trying to phase this (build High St portion first so the church can move into their new space without interrupting services) and then the Lane Ave portion last?

9 minutes ago, jebleprls22 said:

Did they only provide updates on the High Street-facing portion? The last rendering from Norwich shows what looks like walk-ups that would be the rear portion of the Lane Ave-facing portion. Any idea if they're trying to phase this (build High St portion first so the church can move into their new space without interrupting services) and then the Lane Ave portion last?

My understanding is that only this building falls under the jurisdiction of the University Impact District Review Board, which is where these renderings are from. The other building, I believe would only go to the University Area Commission. Both buildings are going through the approval processes concurrently, I think.  Someone correct me if I’m wrong about that, please!

14 minutes ago, amped91 said:

My understanding is that only this building falls under the jurisdiction of the University Impact District Review Board, which is where these renderings are from. The other building, I believe would only go to the University Area Commission. Both buildings are going through the approval processes concurrently, I think.  Someone correct me if I’m wrong about that, please!

Yeah the one on lane doesn’t have to be reviewed by the impact district board, I had emailed a few months ago and they said this. 

New apartment building on Lane has had some serious progress already. It's no longer a demolition site and is very much a construction site now. Doing some underground utility work right in the middle of Lane and the foundation hole for the new building is already well underway.

21 hours ago, TIm said:

New apartment building on Lane has had some serious progress already. It's no longer a demolition site and is very much a construction site now. Doing some underground utility work right in the middle of Lane and the foundation hole for the new building is already well underway.

 

Progress at The Rambler site

 

 

 

 

Well, this is pretty disappointing if it sticks. Looks like the 12 and 7 story proposals have been downgraded to 8 and 6, if this reporting is accurate. 
 

Ohio State-area project that would tear down Little Bar, church moves forward

 

“An Austin, Texas-based developer has retooled its plan for a large mixed-use project at the northwest corner of Lane and High and is one step closer to making the development a reality. 

 

The University Area Commission Zoning Committee approved the project at 50 W. Lane Ave. earlier this week. It will go before the full commission on Jan. 18. The project would also have to go before Columbus City Council before breaking ground.

 

The latest proposal features an eight-story building and a six-story building, with 141 units between the two. The buildings would be connected by a walkway. 
 

An earlier proposal, with taller buildings, was tabled at the commission's September meeting. No vote was taken in November.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/01/05/little-bar-lane-ave-austin-developer.html

17 hours ago, amped91 said:

Well, this is pretty disappointing if it sticks. Looks like the 12 and 7 story proposals have been downgraded to 8 and 6, if this reporting is accurate. 
 

Ohio State-area project that would tear down Little Bar, church moves forward

 

“An Austin, Texas-based developer has retooled its plan for a large mixed-use project at the northwest corner of Lane and High and is one step closer to making the development a reality. 

 

The University Area Commission Zoning Committee approved the project at 50 W. Lane Ave. earlier this week. It will go before the full commission on Jan. 18. The project would also have to go before Columbus City Council before breaking ground.

 

The latest proposal features an eight-story building and a six-story building, with 141 units between the two. The buildings would be connected by a walkway. 
 

An earlier proposal, with taller buildings, was tabled at the commission's September meeting. No vote was taken in November.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/01/05/little-bar-lane-ave-austin-developer.html

Ugh. Still downgrading heights smh.  In an area like this and with a housing crisis. 

Honestly, my guess is this fit within the developers feasibility plan. The lack of pushback seems that perhaps they went in with the go big proposal and walking away happy with what they got approved whereas the CVS property developer is still fighting to go big. 

7 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

Honestly, my guess is this fit within the developers feasibility plan. The lack of pushback seems that perhaps they went in with the go big proposal and walking away happy with what they got approved whereas the CVS property developer is still fighting to go big. 

I wonder if the CVS property is still being actively pursued. Anyone hear anything recently?

53 minutes ago, amped91 said:

I wonder if the CVS property is still being actively pursued. Anyone hear anything recently?

 

Per that article:

 

Nearby Landmark proposal

 

Across the street, a large project that would replace the block of buildings where the CVS currently stands remains in limbo.

 

Landmark Properties, a Georgia-based student housing developer, has been working for more than a year to redevelop the corner of Lane and High streets where CVS and Waterbeds n' Stuff are currently located.

 

Landmark has presented several iterations of the plan to the University Impact Design Review Board and has presented one to the University Area Commission. Both bodies have two sticking points: the older structures should be worked into the project somehow and the overall massing is too large.

 

The project was tabled by the area commission in September and hasn't been back for review from either group yet.

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/01/05/little-bar-lane-ave-austin-developer.html

I was hoping someone had some inside scoop lol With it going silent since September, I hope it’s not been taken off the table. 

On 10/31/2022 at 2:18 PM, Pablo said:

The Olentangy Trail is closed beneath Woody Hayes Dr. for utility work ahead of Cannon Dr. relocation Ph.2 beginning next year. This project includes the demolition of Drake Union.

 

All the trees have been removed between the stadium and river ahead of the road reconstruction project. I have mixed feelings about this. Mature trees are so much better for the environment, carbon capture and wildlife. The species doesn’t matter (some were cottonwoods). The designers could have been creative and kept pockets of existing trees and worked around them adding new trees to augment the existing. Yes, I imagine trees will be planted, but it will take decades for them to have the same effect as the removed trees. It seems that as a premier research University OSU should be in the forefront of environmental practices. Also, the paths are ridiculously symmetrical as pictured above. I suspect the landscape architect was copying the Scioto Mile layout. 

 

rant over
 

 

I’ve always had a problem with that too @Pablo especially because I know spade trucks exist. The only thing I can think of in this situation is the root system was probably so deep that they were impossible to move.
 

Yes, there were some big trees over there but you have to think they were probably only about 50 years old. I’ve known about them for at least 20, so if they replant we have about a decade for it to look fairly close again.

36 minutes ago, wpcc88 said:

I’ve always had a problem with that too @Pablo especially because I know spade trucks exist. The only thing I can think of in this situation is the root system was probably so deep that they were impossible to move.
 

Yes, there were some big trees over there but you have to think they were probably only about 50 years old. I’ve known about them for at least 20, so if they replant we have about a decade for it to look fairly close again.

I also hate nature trees getting cut down, but sometimes if the overall project is going to be better in the long run I’m okay with it. Sometimes things won’t be the prettiest for this generation, but will be even more beautiful for future generations. Sometimes this is even more important. 

13 hours ago, Pablo said:

All the trees have been removed between the stadium and river ahead of the road reconstruction project. I have mixed feelings about this. Mature trees are so much better for the environment, carbon capture and wildlife. The species doesn’t matter (some were cottonwoods). The designers could have been creative and kept pockets of existing trees and worked around them adding new trees to augment the existing. Yes, I imagine trees will be planted, but it will take decades for them to have the same effect as the removed trees. It seems that as a premier research University OSU should be in the forefront of environmental practices. Also, the paths are ridiculously symmetrical as pictured above. I suspect the landscape architect was copying the Scioto Mile layout. 

 

rant over

 

I suspect the trees were removed more because of the levee work that they will be doing than the road work. I agree, though, it definitely was sad to see them gone when I rode through there the other day.

 

Also not looking forward to this trail detour at all

https://buildingthefuture.osu.edu/cannon-drive-relocation-phase-2

Edited January 9, 20232 yr by .justin

Aren't levees supposed to not have trees on them?

 

Few more from 8th & High

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, GCrites80s said:

Aren't levees supposed to not have trees on them?

 

Correct.  They're also not generally supposed to have structures on them either. IE: buckeye lake

2 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

 

Correct.  They're also not generally supposed to have structures on them either. IE: buckeye lake

Buckeye Lake was a very special situation. The zoning guy for the village literally didn't do his job for decades and just approved anything that came in. That's why so many people have docks and patios built on what is state owned property. They made a lot of them rip them out when they fixed the levee. I had to talk to that guy about stuff for work before and he could not have been less informed.

 

Few random ones from Carmenton

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/5/2023 at 1:41 PM, amped91 said:

Well, this is pretty disappointing if it sticks. Looks like the 12 and 7 story proposals have been downgraded to 8 and 6, if this reporting is accurate. 
 

Ohio State-area project that would tear down Little Bar, church moves forward

 

“An Austin, Texas-based developer has retooled its plan for a large mixed-use project at the northwest corner of Lane and High and is one step closer to making the development a reality. 

 

The University Area Commission Zoning Committee approved the project at 50 W. Lane Ave. earlier this week. It will go before the full commission on Jan. 18. The project would also have to go before Columbus City Council before breaking ground.

 

The latest proposal features an eight-story building and a six-story building, with 141 units between the two. The buildings would be connected by a walkway. 
 

An earlier proposal, with taller buildings, was tabled at the commission's September meeting. No vote was taken in November.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/01/05/little-bar-lane-ave-austin-developer.html

Apparently, this scaled down version is still too much for the UD committee. What a load of 💩. Between this and the IV commission’s recent rejection of the Short North tower, I think these commissioners are just digging their own graves when it comes to their powers. 

 

Proposal rejected for Ohio State student apartments in place of church, campus bar
 

“A campus bar frequented by Ohio State University students and Buckeyes fans has been spared a fatal blow – for now. The University Area Commission rejected a proposed 8-story student apartment complex on the northwest corner of Lane Avenue and High Street at its January meeting Wednesday night. After emphatic public commentary and lengthy discussions among commissioners, the commission voted 11-4 to send developers back to the drawing board.

 

“It just sticks out like a sore thumb and it breaks away from what the streetscape should look like for the campus,” Commissioner Debra Gallagher said.
 

After the vote, Sam Newman, vice president of development for American Campus Communities, told NBC4 that they planned to “evaluate the continued feedback” and come back with another version of the proposal.“

https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/ohio-state-university/proposal-rejected-for-ohio-state-student-apartments-in-place-of-church-campus-bar/

What a crock. These folks must cringe everytime they go to a city where a building juxtaposed another by more than 10 ft in height difference.  This isn't disney. Or the villages. Or easton. Not everything needs a nice neat little packaged transition. 

 

I'm in West Lafayette this week for work and gasped at this super block and thought about how amazing something like this would be as a hub of campus development.  If West Lafayette can find it in their hearts to allow this... a block away from historic homes and businesses... High Street and Lane are more than an appropriate place. 

 

 

Pretty much super bland, but at least the cutout is in the back and not on high st. 
 

9th and high development being presented to commission this month. 
 

10 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Pretty much super bland, but at least the cutout is in the back and not on high st. 
 

9th and high development being presented to commission this month. 
 

With love,

UD Commission

As much as they would like to deny this, there's a 6 story building under construction immediately to the south. The precedent has been set.

19 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Pretty much super bland, but at least the cutout is in the back and not on high st. 
 

9th and high development being presented to commission this month. 
 

That cutout faces the building currently under construction at 8th. So it shouldn't really be visible. 

Just now, aderwent said:

That cutout faces the building currently under construction at 8th. So it shouldn't really be visible. 

Even better, I’m sick of the cutout buildings all over. They look terrible. 

7 minutes ago, Pablo said:

As much as they would like to deny this, there's a 6 story building under construction immediately to the south. The precedent has been set.

 

Tell that to the Garden/Stonewall "Tower" that got cancelled across from The Jackson.

29 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Pretty much super bland, but at least the cutout is in the back and not on high st. 
 

9th and high development being presented to commission this month. 
 

Thought it was interesting in the planning notes, it mentioned they would be supportive of more height here if it meant first floor commercial and preservation:

 

“Planning would support additional height beyond that which has been proposed if the proposal were to include a commercial first floor, preservation, and the other design elements requested above.”

8 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

 

Tell that to the Garden/Stonewall "Tower" that got cancelled across from The Jackson.

Different commission to be fair. 

5 minutes ago, amped91 said:

Thought it was interesting in the planning notes, it mentioned they would be supportive of more height here if it meant first floor commercial and preservation:

 

“Planning would support additional height beyond that which has been proposed if the proposal were to include a commercial first floor, preservation, and the other design elements requested above.”

I think anything built along high, especially in the university district, should have commercial first floor. 

40 minutes ago, Pablo said:

As much as they would like to deny this, there's a 6 story building under construction immediately to the south. The precedent has been set.

 

There's 7+ story campus buildings across the street. The south side of lane is a wall of them. The north side of lane is reaching that point. The southern end of campus has mid-rises abutting residential all over. 

 

It's really just a personal thing for them. They don't want it in this part of the UD because it's where more home owners are. Otherwise, the precedent for high and lane at 8 stories exists. They at least have an argument for a 17 story building being unprecedented.

2 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

 

There's 7+ story campus buildings across the street. The south side of lane is a wall of them. The north side of lane is reaching that point. The southern end of campus has mid-rises abutting residential all over. 

 

It's really just a personal thing for them. They don't want it in this part of the UD because it's where more home owners are. Otherwise, the precedent for high and lane at 8 stories exists. They at least have an argument for a 17 story building being unprecedented.

The proposed building I was referring to is at 9th and High, not Lane. 
 

Incidentally, I heard from someone who attended the UDC meeting said the Lane and High (CVS) project is also dead. The developer apparently pulled out of the project. Has anyone else heard this? 
 

This is disappointing, but I also blame the developer. They could’ve focused on the CVS site by eliminating the 300+ parking garage. 

1 minute ago, Pablo said:

This is disappointing, but I also blame the developer. They could’ve focused on the CVS site by eliminating the 300+ parking garage. 

Their main complaint with the Little Bar proposal seems to be parking so I'm not sure getting rid of the garage would have helped the CVS proposal.

 

This is getting ridiculous. These commissions have no power anyway. Why doesn't just one developer try going straight to the city after a period of trying to appease these insane commissions? 

17 minutes ago, Pablo said:

The proposed building I was referring to is at 9th and High, not Lane.

 

I know. I was just circling back to the commission ignoring pretty clear adjacent precedent so if they got a bug up their you know what's, they could deny 9/High if they wanted even with the other builds. 

3 hours ago, amped91 said:

Thought it was interesting in the planning notes, it mentioned they would be supportive of more height here if it meant first floor commercial and preservation:

 

“Planning would support additional height beyond that which has been proposed if the proposal were to include a commercial first floor, preservation, and the other design elements requested above.”

 

Does the building proposed for 9th/High really have no ground floor commercial space? That is ridiculous and should be denied

 

It's replacing no less than 5 active storefronts 

31 minutes ago, aderwent said:

Their main complaint with the Little Bar proposal seems to be parking so I'm not sure getting rid of the garage would have helped the CVS proposal.

 

This is getting ridiculous. These commissions have no power anyway. Why doesn't just one developer try going straight to the city after a period of trying to appease these insane commissions? 

 

If I understand it correctly, UAC has no official authority but makes recommendations to city council on whether to approve or deny applications for zoning variences

 

UARB/UIDRB however does have official authority in that a certificate of appropriateness from the board must be issued in order for a project to be issued a building permit

 

On 1/19/2023 at 8:13 PM, NW24HX said:

 

If I understand it correctly, UAC has no official authority but makes recommendations to city council on whether to approve or deny applications for zoning variences

 

UARB/UIDRB however does have official authority in that a certificate of appropriateness from the board must be issued in order for a project to be issued a building permit

 

https://www.columbus.gov/planning/commissionappeals/

 

Apparently there's a seldom used way to appeal a UIDRB decision. Would be interesting to see someone use this. 

Edited January 25, 20232 yr by aderwent

11 minutes ago, aderwent said:

https://www.columbus.gov/planning/commissionappeals/

 

Apparently there's a seldom used way to appeal a UIDRB decision. Would be interesting to see someone use this. 

Does it have to be from the developer or anyone? 

Apartments Proposed for Ninth and High

 

A new development proposal for High Street south of campus is working its way through the approval process.

 

Buckeye Real Estate has submitted a plan to the University Impact District Review Board to build a six-story, 95-unit apartment building building at the southwest corner of High Street and Ninth Avenue. The project would require the demolition of three existing buildings, each home to local businesses with long tenures in the neighborhood.

 

None longer, though, than the Bier Stube, 1479 N. High St., the dive bar located in a one-story building set back from the street that has been been a University District fixture since 1966.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/apartments-proposed-for-ninth-and-high-bw1/

 

If that includes the 1495 N. High building, they should try to work it in somehow. That's a nice little historic building in good condition. The other 2 are not. 

It does include the corner building. I don't think the commission is going to put up much of a fight to preserve the corner building. For some reason I get a feeling they will roll on it given its proximity to the rest of the ubiquitous mega builds. It seems to be in a zone they have less care to preserve?

9 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

It does include the corner building. I don't think the commission is going to put up much of a fight to preserve the corner building. For some reason I get a feeling they will roll on it given its proximity to the rest of the ubiquitous mega builds. It seems to be in a zone they have less care to preserve?

I just hope the building on the other side of W ninth never gets torn down. That’s a nice old build. Also I curious if Buckeye real estate will ever redo their main location. It’s behind the old corner apartment building and looks like a decent sized lot