April 23, 20241 yr 41 minutes ago, .justin said: The article you quoted says 13 stories - one podium level made of concrete topped by 12 of wood. Hahaha, maybe I should read better
April 30, 20241 yr Ohio State-area project that would replace the Bier Stube moves forward An out-of-town developer's plan for apartments at a site that is today home to a popular Ohio State bar is a few steps closer to reality. Harbor Bay Ventures, a development firm with offices in Cleveland and Chicago, wants to construct a 13-story, 183-unit apartment building at 1479 N. High St., the site of the Bier Stube. The project would be the developer's first Columbus project. Two variances that would allow design to continue to be refined for the project were approved last week by the University Impact District Review Board. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/04/29/bier-stube-ohio-state-redevelopment-university.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 30, 20241 yr 43 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Ohio State-area project that would replace the Bier Stube moves forward An out-of-town developer's plan for apartments at a site that is today home to a popular Ohio State bar is a few steps closer to reality. Harbor Bay Ventures, a development firm with offices in Cleveland and Chicago, wants to construct a 13-story, 183-unit apartment building at 1479 N. High St., the site of the Bier Stube. The project would be the developer's first Columbus project. Two variances that would allow design to continue to be refined for the project were approved last week by the University Impact District Review Board. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/04/29/bier-stube-ohio-state-redevelopment-university.html Can’t see city council not passing this, so I can’t wait to see the finalized design and hopefully they get started really quick.
April 30, 20241 yr I am SHOCKED these variances were just... approved? No wild pushback? Maybe the promise of keeping those affordable units is the key?
April 30, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, jebleprls22 said: I am SHOCKED these variances were just... approved? No wild pushback? Maybe the promise of keeping those affordable units is the key? That's part of it. A bigger part, I think, is it fits in the new city zoning revamp so the commission was going to end up with the building anyway. The affordable housing component is what allows additional height with no vareances on the main building in the new code so the developer knew they were going to get it whether it's from the commission now or if they wait for city council to adopt the new zoning plan. I do wish there was some reasonable pushback on the existing building. I worry that maybe the new zoning code will allow easier demolition as well if this is any indication. Edited April 30, 20241 yr by DTCL11
May 13, 20241 yr Arlington Gateway is a great project, but access to the site is still a little difficult. This isn't really on Upper Arlington and is more about OSU's failure to build out non vehicle infrastructure on west campus. The mixed use path along Lane ends at Carmack, meaning you need to walk in the grass for ~1/3 of a mile to get to the new development. Again not the biggest deal, but these types of gaps at the human scale can heavily dissuade people for moving around the city in anything but their car. Its a very simple piece of infrastructure that should have been incorporated when OSU rebuilt the Carmack intersection ~7? years ago, or when the Andelyn Biosciences building went in recently. A path could/should also be built along Star from the existing path through the fields north towards Lane. I understand that current university plan for west campus address this, but in the meantime it is needlessly frustrating. The university has made some progress on west campus though. The (somewhat) new Kenny Road mixed use path south of Woody Hayes is a significant upgrade from the previously zero pedestrian/cyclist infrasturue on that stretch of roadway.
May 13, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, NorthShore647 said: Arlington Gateway is a great project, but access to the site is still a little difficult. This isn't really on Upper Arlington and is more about OSU's failure to build out non vehicle infrastructure on west campus. The mixed use path along Lane ends at Carmack, meaning you need to walk in the grass for ~1/3 of a mile to get to the new development. Again not the biggest deal, but these types of gaps at the human scale can heavily dissuade people for moving around the city in anything but their car. Its a very simple piece of infrastructure that should have been incorporated when OSU rebuilt the Carmack intersection ~7? years ago, or when the Andelyn Biosciences building went in recently. A path could/should also be built along Star from the existing path through the fields north towards Lane. I understand that current university plan for west campus address this, but in the meantime it is needlessly frustrating. The university has made some progress on west campus though. The (somewhat) new Kenny Road mixed use path south of Woody Hayes is a significant upgrade from the previously zero pedestrian/cyclist infrasturue on that stretch of roadway. I’m sure those things will be updated as the project goes on, at least I hope so.
May 13, 20241 yr Cannon Drive Relocation (5-3-24) Biomedical and Materials Engineering Complex - Phase 2 Hamilton - Interdisciplinary Health Sciences Center Combined Heat and Power Plant The Rambler
May 14, 20241 yr Ohio State's Software Innovation center will have a home along Lane Avenue “Ohio State University plans another building in the prominent gateway to its innovation district – including a home for the new Center for Software Innovation. The five-story Commercialization and Entrepreneurship Center continues the deliberate mix of private businesses with OSU research in Carmenton, the university's name for the 270-acre district. The center will be sited on 1.2 acres along Lane Avenue, forming a triangle with the Energy Advancement and Innovation Center and Pelotonia Research Center, according to a proposal going before trustees this week. The software center will take the top to floors of the larger entrepreneurship building. The Commercialization and Entrepreneurship Center, about 95,000 square feet total, would have student-run and outside startups and other businesses working alongside researchers on the first three floors. The Software Innovation center would occupy the top two floors of the building.“ https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/05/14/ohio-state-software-innovation-entrepreneurship.html
June 7, 20241 yr North High Street mixed-use building is on the auction block You can bid on a piece of North High Street between the Short North and Ohio State. The half-acre site that is home to the Village Idiot, 19 apartments on the upper floors and a parking lot is in foreclosure and is being auctioned off by private selling officer, Gryphon. The addresses are 1437-1439 N. High St.; 1441-1443 N. High St.; 7-11 W. 8th Ave.; 17-19 W. 8th Ave.; and 1438 N. Wall St. "My gut is telling me that someone will buy this and redevelop it," Kruse told me. "This is the cheapest acquisition price for multifamily anywhere on High Street," Kruse said. Edited June 7, 20241 yr by VintageLife
June 7, 20241 yr The auction website has a lot of neat aerials of the building and surrounding area: https://gryphonusa.bidwrangler.com/ui/auctions/121763/16014315 While I don't like to see older buildings demolished, the site would be perfect for another large-scale development similar to what's been built up and down High St. for the past decade or so. A 10-15 story structure that abuts and mirrors the architecture of the neighboring CML branch would look nice.
June 7, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: The auction website has a lot of neat aerials of the building and surrounding area: https://gryphonusa.bidwrangler.com/ui/auctions/121763/16014315 While I don't like to see older buildings demolished, the site would be perfect for another large-scale development similar to what's been built up and down High St. for the past decade or so. A 10-15 story structure that abuts and mirrors the architecture of the neighboring CML branch would look nice. There was a development presented for this site 5 years ago or so I believe. found it: Eight-Story Hotel Proposed for University District Edited June 7, 20241 yr by VintageLife
June 7, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, VintageLife said: There was a development presented for this site 5 years ago or so I believe. found it: Eight-Story Hotel Proposed for University District I had forgotten about that proposal. It is basically exactly what I was thinking though, so I guess the concept from when it was originally proposed was somewhere in the inner recesses of my brain. 😅 I wonder if the auction makes this proposal plausible now. The original concept was released almost 7 years ago, though. Maybe not a hotel, but residential with a similar architectural style (and some more height) would be a great addition to the neighborhood.
June 12, 20241 yr Tommy’s Pizza is closing, have to imagine a developer came and offered them a significant amount of money for that property. Does anyone remember a proposal for it?
June 12, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, wpcc88 said: Tommy’s Pizza is closing, have to imagine a developer came and offered them a significant amount of money for that property. Does anyone remember a proposal for it? This article claims they are keeping ownership of the building and renting it out to another restaurant.
June 12, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, PizzaScissors said: This article claims they are keeping ownership of the building and renting it out to another restaurant. It’s a pretty small plot, so that kind of makes sense. From stories I’ve heard, I feel bad for anyone that rents from that dude.
June 13, 20241 yr I know this is only anecdotal but post covid, I can't recall ever seeing more than one or two people there any time I passed. The couple times we ate there, we were the only ones inside and very few pickups or deliveries went out. It very much felt like a dying business for awhile. Would be nice to see him sell and just help finish up that section of Lane but I wonder if he will pull a Short North Family Dollar and just hold on no matter what until that overpriced deal of a century comes along.
June 13, 20241 yr 8 hours ago, DTCL11 said: I know this is only anecdotal but post covid, I can't recall ever seeing more than one or two people there any time I passed. The couple times we ate there, we were the only ones inside and very few pickups or deliveries went out. It very much felt like a dying business for awhile. Would be nice to see him sell and just help finish up that section of Lane but I wonder if he will pull a Short North Family Dollar and just hold on no matter what until that overpriced deal of a century comes along. Well at some point I remember reading he went full right wing and spouted a bunch of crazy stuff, probably not the smartest move when you are on a college campus with a bunch of young people. It seemed after that, it was dead all the time.
June 13, 20241 yr You could build something like Torres on the site - just turn the building 90 degrees and chop it in half - voila!
June 13, 20241 yr Found this little snippet from this article Columbus rezoned really interesting. I put the interesting part in bold When Georgia developer Landmark Properties wanted to build student-focused housing near the Ohio State University campus, the firm reached out to a local architecture firm to lead the project through the process. And what a process it’s been. Bhakti Bania, CEO of BBCO, presented almost a dozen versions of the multifamily project over the course of about two years to the University Area Commission and the University Impact District Review Board before it was ultimately tabled and Landmark decided to pause the project. “As architects, we have to follow the rules, but it sometimes seems like boards don’t have to,” Bania said. “It can be frustrating for us.” Could be a good sign this project will be back after the zoning changes. Edited June 14, 20241 yr by VintageLife
June 14, 20241 yr The zoning changes will help, but the primary reason that and many other projects have hit pause is due to interest rates
June 21, 2024Jun 21 McDonald's wants to demolish their existing 2-story restaurant to build a new single-story structure By shifting the building up against High St they would eliminate the outdoor patio seating area to add 10 new parking spaces in the rear Honestly I think this is a pretty bad proposal and also a downgrade in many ways from the current conditions... https://columbusohdev.app.box.com/s/opagh9tgnze8edo5y7uex62bf5yzdyol
June 21, 2024Jun 21 They probably want to get rid of the people camping out on their patio. Of course, under the new zoning, they could build a 12 story building with a McDonalds as the retail.
June 21, 2024Jun 21 McDonald's wants to eliminate anything to do with the Ronald era and wants people to think about coffee only.
June 21, 2024Jun 21 26 minutes ago, Pablo said: They probably want to get rid of the people camping out on their patio. Of course, under the new zoning, they could build a 12 story building with a McDonalds as the retail. This is the correct thing to do! I’m annoyed this will probably happen when it really shouldn’t. All the other fast food locations do just fine with apartments above them.
June 21, 2024Jun 21 As a bit of a side note, it eliminates the AD space on the side of the building to the north. Ad space that has been notably used to target McDonalds or Ohio State unfavorably in the past.
June 21, 2024Jun 21 Oh didn't know that. A giant photo of pink slime on the wall might indeed be bad for business.
June 21, 2024Jun 21 It's been used by Peta and it wasn't the sexual abuse victims, but some other group put something criticizing OSU at one point there too. IT used it to put a creepy clown over McDonalds. Compared to other locations, the folks that use that space seem to understand that location well. I am curious how that plays in to redevelopment in anyway. Where we've seen that a building will be built around a billboard, doesn't being an extention of the building play differently than a traditional mounted or free standing billboard. But really what I care most about is getting rid of that dangerous curb cut. That, very clearly, one way parking lot is a free for all and the amount of people and cars I've seen just about get hit because there's no regard for right of way is way more than should even be tolerated.
June 21, 2024Jun 21 2 hours ago, VintageLife said: This is the correct thing to do! I’m annoyed this will probably happen when it really shouldn’t. All the other fast food locations do just fine with apartments above them. Unfortunately you’re probably right. Medium density building with new housing units? Can’t have that! They’ll eat this up though 🙄
June 28, 2024Jun 28 Plan to Replace Campus-Area McDonald’s Presented to Review Board That does not appear to be the plan for the McDonald’s at 1972 N. High St., which has stood on the site since 1965. A new proposal calls for tearing it down and replacing it with a new, single-use McDonald’s, although there’s a chance that the parking lot next door could eventually be redeveloped. Christina Sabula, Project Architect for BBCO Design, explained to the board that a more ambitious proposal for the quarter-acre lot is not likely to materialize. “It’s just not something that’s in the budget, not something that the client is really interested in pursuing,” she said. “They’re interested in pursuing just a straight McDonald’s, which has been successful since the 1960s, and they want to continue with that.” Also includes updates about summit and 16 and the 13 story The latest plans presented for 16th Avenue call for a five-story building with 69 apartments (holding 317 beds), which is down from the 573-bed project that was initially proposed. The newest design for the Bier Stube site calls for a 13-story building, down from 15. Both projects appear likely to be approved the next time they come before the board – only minor suggestions for changes were made by members.
June 28, 2024Jun 28 Developments such as a new fast-food outlet should be banned on High, and it's sad it's much easier for this crap to be approved than some of the major developments the area commission has tried so hard to kill- or in some cases successfully killed. Edited June 28, 2024Jun 28 by jonoh81
June 29, 2024Jun 29 Columbus City Council to consider Ohio State-area project to replace the Bier Stube A project that would replace the Bier Stube near Ohio State University is heading to Columbus City Council. Harbor Bay Ventures, a development firm with offices in Cleveland and Chicago, plans to build a 13-story, 183-unit apartment building at 1479 N. High St., the site of beloved Ohio State bar, the Bier Stube. Columbus City Council will consider the project at its meeting on Monday. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/06/28/harbor-bay-ohio-state-bier-stube.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 29, 2024Jun 29 19 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Columbus City Council to consider Ohio State-area project to replace the Bier Stube A project that would replace the Bier Stube near Ohio State University is heading to Columbus City Council. Harbor Bay Ventures, a development firm with offices in Cleveland and Chicago, plans to build a 13-story, 183-unit apartment building at 1479 N. High St., the site of beloved Ohio State bar, the Bier Stube. Columbus City Council will consider the project at its meeting on Monday. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/06/28/harbor-bay-ohio-state-bier-stube.html They also submitted Final Site Plan stuff in the permit portal
June 29, 2024Jun 29 Does the commission have the power to say no for McDonalds? Fine. You want to be just a mcdonalds. Great. You already have that. We aren't approved any lot changes because what you have is all you get?
July 2, 2024Jul 2 New Ohio State Athletic Director discusses a couple of the next big construction projects being planned for Ohio State's athletic facilities ...Some of those upcoming gatherings will involve raising money for capital expenditures, including a significant renovation and expansion of the Woody Hayes Athletic Center. The need for a bigger footprint for the building, which is in position to stretch farther east toward Olentangy River Road, is a product of the continued growth of the program’s support staff, a broad group that includes a mix of analysts, quality control coaches, talent evaluators, nutritionists and others. Bjork also identified the OSU Ice Rink, which houses the national champion women’s ice hockey team, as another facility in need of a facelift. He noted its age (it opened in 1961) and small capacity (it seats fewer than a thousand fans). While the men’s hockey team plays at the larger Schottenstein Center, Bjork said they are examining potential options for both programs. Ohio State’s athletic department includes more than 600 employees. Bjork estimated the department, including business advancement, is about twice the size of the one he led for the past four years at Texas A&M. The Buckeyes sponsor 36 varsity sports teams, tied with Stanford for the most among power conference schools. “This is a massive place,” Bjork said. https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/college/2024/07/02/how-ross-bjork-prepared-to-take-over-as-ohio-state-athletic-director/74191366007/ Edited July 2, 2024Jul 2 by Luvcbus
July 3, 2024Jul 3 14 hours ago, Luvcbus said: New Ohio State Athletic Director discusses a couple of the next big construction projects being planned for Ohio State's athletic facilities ...Some of those upcoming gatherings will involve raising money for capital expenditures, including a significant renovation and expansion of the Woody Hayes Athletic Center. The need for a bigger footprint for the building, which is in position to stretch farther east toward Olentangy River Road, is a product of the continued growth of the program’s support staff, a broad group that includes a mix of analysts, quality control coaches, talent evaluators, nutritionists and others. Bjork also identified the OSU Ice Rink, which houses the national champion women’s ice hockey team, as another facility in need of a facelift. He noted its age (it opened in 1961) and small capacity (it seats fewer than a thousand fans). While the men’s hockey team plays at the larger Schottenstein Center, Bjork said they are examining potential options for both programs. Ohio State’s athletic department includes more than 600 employees. Bjork estimated the department, including business advancement, is about twice the size of the one he led for the past four years at Texas A&M. The Buckeyes sponsor 36 varsity sports teams, tied with Stanford for the most among power conference schools. “This is a massive place,” Bjork said. https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/college/2024/07/02/how-ross-bjork-prepared-to-take-over-as-ohio-state-athletic-director/74191366007/ That the women's hockey team still plays in the ice rink is insane. They've been in the last three national championships, winning two of them. I've heard the team has to take stairs in their skates to get to the ice.
July 3, 2024Jul 3 4 minutes ago, PizzaScissors said: That the women's hockey team still plays in the ice rink is insane. They've been in the last three national championships, winning two of them. I've heard the team has to take stairs in their skates to get to the ice. They should just transform St John into the ice rink for both men’s and women’s.
July 3, 2024Jul 3 30 minutes ago, PizzaScissors said: That the women's hockey team still plays in the ice rink is insane. They've been in the last three national championships, winning two of them. I've heard the team has to take stairs in their skates to get to the ice. Last year, Ohio State trustees approved a new hockey facility on the former Buckeye Village site. Unless something has changed because of the new athletic director, construction is supposed to start relatively soon: "Trustees approved Ohio State's request to expand its athletic campus and construct a new ice rink to house the men's and women's hockey teams near the Covelli Center, Ohio State Lacrosse Stadium and the Ty Tucker Tennis Center off Fred Taylor Drive. The university is seeking to fundraise $2.7 million for the facility, which would open in 2026.” Per the proposal, the new facility will include team locker rooms, an athlete lounge, a dining and nutrition area, support services for the men’s and women’s hockey teams, offices for their coaches and training facilities along with expanded seating capacity and broadcasting capabilities over the current OSU Ice Rink. The new rink would be located in the Athletic District off of Fred Taylor Drive, adjacent to the Covelli Center and the newly opened Ohio State Lacrosse Stadium.
July 3, 2024Jul 3 4 hours ago, VintageLife said: They should just transform St John into the ice rink for both men’s and women’s. That would cost probably double what it would take to make it a basketball venue. The construction of the Covelli Center put the final dagger into St John. To my knowledge the new hockey specific arena will break ground in OSU’s next fiscal year. I forget exactly when that ends and begins but I’d tab it for spring ‘25.
July 3, 2024Jul 3 9 minutes ago, wpcc88 said: That would cost probably double what it would take to make it a basketball venue. The construction of the Covelli Center put the final dagger into St John. To my knowledge the new hockey specific arena will break ground in OSU’s next fiscal year. I forget exactly when that ends and begins but I’d tab it for spring ‘25. Oh I know, but one can dream hahaha
July 5, 2024Jul 5 On 6/28/2024 at 2:58 PM, jonoh81 said: Developments such as a new fast-food outlet should be banned on High, and it's sad it's much easier for this crap to be approved than some of the major developments the area commission has tried so hard to kill- or in some cases successfully killed. How on earth is a 1 story building allowed to be built on arguably the heaviest foot track section of High St? The current building isn't historic nor attached to any historical buildings. The minimum height allowed should be at least 3 stories.
July 5, 2024Jul 5 On 7/3/2024 at 9:33 AM, Luvcbus said: Last year, Ohio State trustees approved a new hockey facility on the former Buckeye Village site. Unless something has changed because of the new athletic director, construction is supposed to start relatively soon: "Trustees approved Ohio State's request to expand its athletic campus and construct a new ice rink to house the men's and women's hockey teams near the Covelli Center, Ohio State Lacrosse Stadium and the Ty Tucker Tennis Center off Fred Taylor Drive. The university is seeking to fundraise $2.7 million for the facility, which would open in 2026.” Per the proposal, the new facility will include team locker rooms, an athlete lounge, a dining and nutrition area, support services for the men’s and women’s hockey teams, offices for their coaches and training facilities along with expanded seating capacity and broadcasting capabilities over the current OSU Ice Rink. The new rink would be located in the Athletic District off of Fred Taylor Drive, adjacent to the Covelli Center and the newly opened Ohio State Lacrosse Stadium. This paper is suspiciously lacking in seating capacity detail for the proposed arena. Everyone agrees the old rink with around 1K seats was wholly inadequate while the cavernous Schottenstein Center was just massive. If you look at attendance numbers, the men's team averages around 5K for B1G games so it makes sense the new arena should be around the 5K mark as well.
July 6, 2024Jul 6 22 hours ago, John7165 said: This paper is suspiciously lacking in seating capacity detail for the proposed arena. Everyone agrees the old rink with around 1K seats was wholly inadequate while the cavernous Schottenstein Center was just massive. If you look at attendance numbers, the men's team averages around 5K for B1G games so it makes sense the new arena should be around the 5K mark as well. If I’m not mistaken I believe you’re correct, between 5-10k.
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