bizbiz, here is some info & old pics of the quarries from the great ohio memory website. it mentions a sandstone museum so maybe you could visit that if you have time:

 

http://worlddmc.ohiolink.edu/OMP/NewSearch?searchstring=%22Amherst+(Ohio)%22&fieldname=place&searchmark=0

I think your talking about the Quiggly Museum....It's on the corner of South Lake Street and Milan Avenue, in the city of Amherst (the brick intersection, next to the new Jr. High).

 

I've never been there, but heard its pretty cool.

 

http://www.amhersthistorical.org

How are those pics comming biz?

I finally went back to the Amherst Quarries with my camera. Let me tell you, this was a very unpleasant experience. First, there was an old man sitting on a rock watching me trespass.. eventually I stepped back so far, he couldn't see me, but I thought that he could tell someone that some guy went beyond the lines. Not that I'm afraid to go somewhere I'm not supposed to, it's just that there are signs everywhere that say "No Trespassing. Violators Will Be Prosecuted." and I don't want to be prosecuted.. Second, as I parked Hornyak St., I noticed signs on the property directly next to the main quarry that said "Site Under Video Surveillance" and some guy cutting his lawn saw me. I hate when I try to do something like this and everyone sees me and I see signs like this.. it just makes me nervous. OK, but I said fuck it, I'm not going to have another chance to return for a long time so this is it. Here are photo's with explanations of what's going on:

 

OK, I started off by parking on Hornyak and walked to the main observation area on Quarry Road. Below is the view of quarry 3 from standing on Quarry Road. Notice how freaking large this quarry is. It looks more like a lake or a pond than anything else to me. And if you climb over the guard railing and stand at the edge of the quarry, a straight drop of about 50 feet will greet you. Kinda scary..

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Another view from Quarry Road. Notice the trees growing from the base of the quarry. Now buried in what looks like a lake:

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A cute little private road that is no longer accessible by vehicles. When I began down this road, I had no idea where the other quarries were since I forgot to bring the map that Steele05 provided me with. Well, this dirt road is VERY long:

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Eventually the road dead ends and breaks off into pathways and fields. I seriously got lost and had nothing to go by after taking this path and that path, etc. The only thing I could go by was a radio tower nearby. Well anyways, I eventually realized I was wasting my time and that I wasn't going to find a quarry soon. I did however locate the back of one of the bandoned factories off of Quarry Road:

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A creepy looking factory that is situated next to quarry 4:

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Unfortunately, quarry 4 is very small and looks more like a ravine than a quarry. It is visible from Quarry Road, but does not resemble a quarry, as trees and plantation is growing in and around it. This is on Quarry Road, next to Quarry 4:

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One of many signs that caused me to get "nervous":

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Another view of Quarry 3:

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The red line shows the route I travelled. As you can see, I was perfect in choosing an absolutely shitty path to explore the quarries. I ended up getting to see nothing new, as quarries 3 and 4 are both visible from Quarry Road. I really wish I had explored the other side of Quarry Road, over by 5+6, as that looks intriguing:

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Unfortunately, I got a call that I had to make a pickup in Lorain and I ran out of time. I hope to return before this is a golf course!

 

-john

awesome job man!

 

your braver than I am!

 

lol

Thanks for risking prosecution, bizbiz.  Very interesting!

wow great work biz.

 

i hope you can get to 5,6 & 7 too --- it looks like they may be accessible.

 

it's sure going to be a lot different around there in a few years.

European company to partner with Ohio firm on quarry complex

Developer won’t buy 900 acres; will ‘join forces’ with American Stone

 

Shawn Foucher

The Chronicle-Telegram

AMHERST TWP. — One township trustee calls it a step closer to believability.

Trans European Securities, the European outfit planning a 900-acre residential and entertainment complex in Lorain County, said Friday that it will purchase a significant portion of stock in American Stone, the parent company of Cleveland Quarries in Amherst Township.

Almost two years ago, TES chose Cleveland Quarries as the site for what at first glance seems like a pie-in-the-sky proposal: A huge complex comprised of housing, entertainment, sports, leisure and office districts, as well as a 192-acre golf course.

In May 2004, TES purchased rights to buy the Cleveland Quarries site for $24 million.

But Friday, the company announced plans to forego the purchase of the land and instead buy a significant share of American Stone’s stock, as well as “join forces” with the company to develop the property, according to Patrick Gallagher, an American Stone spokesman.

 

Companies strike development deal

Trans European to invest in American Stone, $1.25 billion development moves ahead

 

Amherst Township - After two months of negotiations Trans European Securities International announced yesterday it will invest in American Stone Corp. as it moves forward with plans for a $1.25 billion mixed-use development.

 

Patrick Gallagher, spokesman for American Stone, said yesterday that instead of Trans European exercising the option to purchase 900 acres of American Stone-owned property, it will invest in the company.

 

 

Developer, quarry owner partners on luxury resort

Saturday, October 15, 2005

Molly Kavanaugh

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

South Amherst- The British development company planning a $1.25 billion luxury resort on retired quarries has decided to partner with the owner of the property.

 

The arrangement means American Stone Corp. will be the on-site manager for the project, which is to include houses, a seven-star hotel and a world-class golf course spanning 900 acres.

 

American Stone will continue to quarry sandstone at its 185-acre Birmingham Quarry in Erie County. The company needs to build a new plant for 50 to 100 employees and will soon announce a site in Lorain, Vermilion or elsewhere.

 

 

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1129369212179170.xml&coll=2

 

I wonder if they're planning to use the sandstone to build some of the buildings and structures for this development.  That would be kinda interesting.  Though if they overdid it, it would end up looking like downtown Amherst where practically all the buildings are sandstone.  I'm hoping for more of a contemporary look, like in the renderings.  I guess we'll soon see....

The downtown Milan Plaza area is so difficult to accept. The area is a farmland, and here we have a picture with identical towers one after the next, for who knows how many blocks. After visiting the site, I can't even imagine how the change will happen from farms to metropolis. The proposed sketch reminds me completely of the repitition involved with Hong Kong's residential planning. And it is also a modern vision of NYC's Stuyvesant Town.

I came across this article while searching on the net:

 

http://journeys.luxist.com/entry/1234000440063508/

 

Interesting how this already seems to be placed in the 'luxury' category, though it says the quarries are in Chicago..lol.

^that link had an ad for the burj al arab on it among other luxury destinations. hard to believe. we'll see.

 

whats with the dec 15th deadline? whats that about?

Sewer plan slated for quarry complex

 

 

Brad Dicken

The Chronicle-Telegram

ELYRIA — County Commissioners approved spending $231,000 to engineer and design a sewer system to accommodate a 900-acre residential and entertainment complex in South Amherst and Amherst and Brownhelm townships.

Wednesday’s decision moves the $1.25 billion project one step closer to reality, said county Administrator Jim Cordes.

“We’re taking a risk because we’re talking about a large future development,” he said. “If we don’t take any risks, we don’t get anywhere.”

Trans European Securities, the European company planning the complex, has already purchased a significant portion of American Stone, the company which owns Cleveland Quarries, where the project would be located.

TES had purchased the rights to buy the site in 2004 for $24 million, but instead decided to simply buy up American Stone instead.

But Cordes cautioned that even with such a large investment already in the project, TES could still decide against going forward with the development, which will include housing, sports, entertainment, leisure and office district, in addition to a 192-acre golf course.

County Commissioner Ted Kalo said the project is vital to improving the economy of Lorain County.

“It’s very important to get this off the ground to move the county forward,” he said.

Without sewers, Cordes said, there is almost no way the developer would continue with the project.

 

County OKs sewer plan to build $1.25 billion resort

 

Matt Suman

Morning Journal Writer

 

Elyria - The Lorain County commissioners took another step yesterday toward advancing a British developer's plans to build a $1.25 billion resort in South Amherst and two adjacent townships.

 

Britain-based Trans European plans to build the resort, called The Quarries, on more than 900 acres in South Amherst, Amherst Township and Brownhelm Township.  The company has said it plans to put an 18-hole golf course, residential development, retail shops,a hotel and a year-round water park with a retractable roof on the property.

 

 

simple, yet catchy, i like

Steele05,

 

I am going to let you in on a little secret.  They is more than one topic on this forum.

"The downtown Milan Plaza area is so difficult to accept. The area is a farmland, and here we have a picture with identical towers one after the next, for who knows how many blocks. After visiting the site, I can't even imagine how the change will happen from farms to metropolis. The proposed sketch reminds me completely of the repitition involved with Hong Kong's residential planning. And it is also a modern vision of NYC's Stuyvesant Town."

 

 

1.25 billion dollars could have quite an impact I'd imagine.

so far it still all looks like the county is helping pave the way for a new version of a muirfield or oak hills golf course development --- albeit with a potential funky quarry pool attraction.

 

towers for blocks? stuyvesant town? that's some major fishy smelling pr hype, highly unlikely in reality. i'll change my mind when i see a tower built.

So there should probably be some news happening here soon.  Either way, with the dec. 15 deadline whether it goes through or doesn't.

Firelands school board accepts 30-year deal for Cleveland Quarries development

 

Alex M. Parker

Morning Journal Writer

 

Oberlin - The Firelands school board unanimously agreed last night to a 30-year tax incremental finanacing agreement with the county for the planned development at the Cleveland Quarries site, according to school Superintendant Thomas Diringer.

 

"This will really be helpful to the district and to the county at large," said Diringer.

 

The TIF agreement will require the county to pay the school district in cash for tax revenues lost through development of infrastructure for the resort project.

 

Because of the agreement, the school will not lose any funds as the county uses the project's property tax money to build sewers and other infrastructure needed for the resort, Diringer said.

 

"Not only will the school not lose anything, but we believe that we'll benefit, based on how schools are financed in Ohio," said Diringer.

 

The quarry project is a plan to build a "world-class golf course" surrounded by housing complexes in South Amherst, Brownhelm and Amherst townships.  The complex will be built by Trans European, a U.K. based company.  The project, which has a preliminary completion date of 2012, could cost as much as $1.25 billion, according to Diringer.

 

The county will vote on approval of the TIF on Dec. 30, Diringer said.

County to consider tax deal on $1.5 billion project

MATT SUMAN, Morning Journal Writer12/30/2005

 

ELYRIA -- The Lorain County commissioners will likely approve today one of the largest tax agreements in Ohio history when it votes on the $1.5 billion Lorain County Cleveland Quarry resort project in South Amherst village, and Amherst and Brownhelm townships.

 

 

The agreement needs to be passed before next year when state law changes and, if approved, it would be the first tax incremental financing (TIF) agreement approved by the county commissioners, according to County Administrator Jim Cordes.

 

 

$1.5 billion resort plan takes step forward

SCOT ALLYN, Morning Journal Writer12/31/2005

 

ELYRIA -- Lorain County Commissioners yesterday approved what they say is the state's largest-ever tax agreement for a $1.5 billion resort project in western Lorain County.

 

 

But while the county officials were pleased after unanimously approving the 30-year tax incremental financing (TIF) agreement, representatives from Amherst and Brownhelm townships and the village of South Amherst were fuming over the commissioners' failure to include them in negotiations.

 

 

I can't blame them for not dealing with the neighboring townships.  The law changing is a very real excuse and didn't leave a lot of time for twiddling thumbs.  I live nearby and after having dealt with such willful and unintentional ignorance on the topic of TIF, I can see why the County wouldn't want to muck this deal up.    The project sounds too ridic to be true.  Does anyone know anything about the developer?

^exactly! there is nothing on the developer because in reality the "british company developer" is a couple or more individual euro gentleman who recently incorporated. now they may have worked in some capacity for euro real estate and construction companies, we cannot find any info, but have never done anything on their own (we can find).

 

so yes it could very well be a scam where the over excited county builds the infrastructure, the "developers" disappear and all the pretty  plans go bye-bye with them. it's not like that has not happened in lorain county before. ok maybe they sell or come back later on in another guise, buy the bankrupt land on the cheap and then build the golf course. maybe. otherwise the county is just left holding the bag. lets face it -- that kind of scenario is more likely than this project actually happening as stated. note also they have yet to give american stone any money, and then even if they do buy it lets also face it land ownership is a far far cry from land development.

 

otoh, of course it could all happen exactly as they say....lol!

 

Well, I am pretty sure that any agreement between the county and the developer would stipulate that the bonds would not be issued or improvements be made until construction is under way.  That's the usual stipulation in these TIF agreements and how what you laid out doesn't happen to the City.

 

What i've heard and in no way know this to be true is that this european developer is really a front for the Saudis who are building like 4 palaces to come to America to when the Saudi Empire collapses.   

"What i've heard and in no way know this to be true is that this european developer is really a front for the Saudis who are building like 4 palaces to come to America to when the Saudi Empire collapses."

 

umm....you are kidding, right?  Where did you hear that from?, I'm curious.  I've seen the British speakers for Trans Euro first hand, and they seem pretty British to me.

wow now there is a twist!  a possible saudi front? geez louise this project gets crazier by the post -- lol!

 

hmm, i suppose any former saudi oil shiek would need a golf course and a quarry sized swimming pool. 

 

 

here is a big next step to look out for:

 

"Ziance said the next step for the commissioners is to reach a deal with Trans European to build sewers. He said details about who will pay for what parts of sewer plans were not yet clear. "

 

how that is worked out (or not worked out) may be telling.

 

LOL...2006 LC is desperate.

Why would anyone be opposed to this?  I think anything in LC that isn't a Walmart is a positive step.  And the influx of wealth can certainly help the area.

I guess I just see it as tarted up sprawl.  I don't see it attracting wealth from around the world or the country.  I see it leaching wealth off of Cleveland.  It will be replacing a beautiful bit of open space with housing for the wealthy who already have plenty of housing elsewhere.  We will be further spreading out the wealth that we have, leaving more vacant homes and commercial strips throughout the region.  In that context, retail and entertainment don't add to the economic base of our economy, therefore the jobs that this will be "creating" will be offset by losses in jobs elsewhere. 

I agree with X.  This is sprawl.  The people who live there will be people who work in Cuyahoga county.  I don't see Lorain adding a bunch of high-paying jobs because of the project.  Some may think that its pretty and it may attract a championship golf tourney or two, but that won't make up for the damage that is done to the region due to increased sprawl.

 

Let’s talk about why I HATE WAL-MART UP AGAINST THE WAL-MART Wal-Mart is the nation’s (and the world’s) biggest retailer. But the problem is not just Wal-Mart - Toys R Us, McDonalds, Microsoft, Barnes and Noble, Starbucks, the Gap, Kinko’s, Circuit City, Home Depot, Nations Bank. ..all wipe out the smaller, more local competition. Why? Because they can. McDonalds in the Eiffel Tower, K-Mart in Greenwich Village - is this our destiny? Read on... .Only a company of their size can buy direct from manufacturers, cuthng out the distributor. They buy so cheaply they can resell to other stores at cheaper than wholesale. Thus they can ruin the competition through PREDATORY PRICING.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From the 1/5/06 PD:

 

 

Quarry land price set at $15 million

Luxury resort planned in Lorain County

Thursday, January 05, 2006

Carl Matzelle

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

South Amherst - A British development company has agreed to pay $15.25 million for 900 acres where it plans to build a luxury resort in Lorain County.

 

Trans European Securities plans a $1.25 billion residential and recreational complex on the property, the site of quarries retired by American Stone Corp.

 

The sale should be completed by the end of March, American Stone Chairman Thomas Roulston II said Tuesday.

   

 

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/lorain/113645355879550.xml&coll=2

 

hmm, end of march? more shadiness? if this is truly a $1.5 billion dollar mega-development and not just a golf course i would expect that given all they have ahead of them one of those trans-european fellows should have been able to pull a mere $15 mil and chump change out of his wallet and bought up the property by now. esp if backed by an oil shiek. guess we'll have to wait and see again.

^All lands deals take a little bit of time to play out.  Its very normal.

All I can say is "wow."  I have a friend who lives with her dad on Route 113 in South Amherst...........and looking at that aerial map this complex would be in their back yard......literally.  I wonder how their going to adjust to it, if the project materializes!

 

And if it does, it will definitely draw people from west of Lorain County (like Erie, Huron, Ashland counties etc.)  I know I will go there to check it out (it'll only be 20 minutes from my house).  Cleveland's suburban sprawl is slowly making it's way to the Firelands (and Firelands school district  :-))

 

As to whether this is a good project, I have no idea.  I'll make assumptions when the project happens, if it ever does!

As far as NE Ohio goes, it'll probably become a tourism capital of Ohio.  Actually, it's more like North-central Ohio with the area from Cedar Point to Cleveland.  Like you guys were mentioning earlier, you'd have CP, the islands off Sandusky coast, and then this resort when they build it.

 

 

And I gotta throw this in (because it's close by).  Norwalk Raceway Park entertains all kinds of people (yes, there are some interesting characters that go there) from April to Halloween.  Seating at the raceway is for nearly 25,000 people, more than Gund Arena.  Sometimes the property is filled with 40,000 people (racers included).  And since I've worked there for too many years (6 years and soon to be 7 when I return home from college this summer) I know that we draw people mainly from the Cleveland market.  But there are also a lot from Toledo/Detroit and Pittsburgh/Youngstown as well as Columbus.

 

This area is a tourist draw for sure; but with that comes lower-wage jobs and A LOT of traffic.  US Route 250 is terrible!

according to the peedee today a theoretical new lakefront marina component between lorain & vermilion was added to the rest of the conceptual mix:

 

 

Marina added to resort plans

 

4:58 p.m.

 

Carl Matzelle

and Michael Sangiacomo

Plain Dealer Reporters

 

A British development company that plans to transform five closed quarries into a luxury resort in Lorain County is adding a new component to the project: an upscale, lakefront marina.

 

Neil Pike, architect for Trans European Development Corp., said he plans to build the marina near Vermilion, but he would not identify the site.

 

"We want the residents who enjoy boating to keep their boats here year-round," he said. "But we hope the marina and quarry will attract Canadian boaters as well."

 

The 900-acre quarry development will include luxury housing, a top-flight hotel, offices, gourmet restaurants and a world-class golf course.

 

Lorain County Community Development director Ron Twining said Pike mentioned the marina "in passing" a few months ago, but nothing specific was discussed.

 

"But it's a great idea and a logical next step," Twining said. "It definitely ties into Trans European's plans to make the area a magnet for tourism, recreation and business."

 

Here is the full article. Things have been pretty quite about this, it seems.

Has anybody else heard anything?

 

 

 

Quarry developer adds lakefront marina to plans

Friday, February 17, 2006

Carl Matzelle and Michael Sangiacomo

Plain Dealer Reporters

 

South Amherst - A British development company that plans to transform five closed quarries into a luxury resort is adding a new component to the project: an upscale lakefront marina.

 

Neil Pike, architect for Trans European Development Corp., said he plans to build the marina near Vermilion, but he would not identify the site.

 

"We were unaware how much the people in the Cleveland area love the Lake Erie islands," Pike said. Once they learned about the boating opportunities here, they made the marina part of the plan.

 

"We want the residents who enjoy boating to keep their boats here year-round," he said. "But we hope the marina and quarry will attract Canadian boaters as well."

 

The 900-acre quarry development will include luxury housing, a top-flight hotel, offices, gourmet restaurants and a world-class golf course.

 

Lorain County Community Development Director Ron Twining said Pike mentioned the marina "in passing" a few months ago, but nothing specific was discussed.

 

"But it's a great idea and a logical next step," Twining said. "It definitely ties into Trans European's plans to make the area a magnet for tourism, recreation and business."

 

While Pike was tight-lipped about the location, land north of the shuttered Ford plant and several miles of private lakefront west toward Vermilion could accommodate a large marina, said Richard Novak, executive director of the Lorain Port Authority.

 

Some breakwalls would be necessary, he said, but "we'd love to have it."

 

To reach these Plain Dealer reporters:

 

[email protected], 440-934-0522

 

[email protected], 216-999-4890

kinda makes you wonder....

 

Shuttered Ford plant could be redeveloped

from today's Morning Journal

 

LORAIN -- While city officials say a deal to buy the vacant Lorain Assembly Plant should be finished by this summer, speculation is swirling as to who will buy the plant and what they would do with it.

 

Mayor Craig Foltin said a gag order prevents him from revealing the name of the party interested in the shuttered Ford plant, but he has said that the company would use the site for ''real estate redevelopment,'' which means it would buy the property and convert it into space for additional businesses or industry.

 

They haven't been listing anymore the "indoor ski resort" in any of their blurbs about the project.  I wonder if thats a dead idea or maybe too expensive once they take the whole project en masse.  A new marina won't be cheap.  Also thats off the Quarries property.  Perhaps they can dome an existing nearby ski resort.

They haven't been listing anymore the "indoor ski resort" in any of their blurbs about the project.  I wonder if thats a dead idea or maybe too expensive once they take the whole project en masse.

 

actually there was never talk of an "indoor ski resort".

 

 

 

Marina proposed as part of quarry project

 

 

From today's PD

Six years away...

 

 

Cleveland Quarry plan still on, developer says

Complex expected to be up by 2012

Tuesday, February 21, 2006

Michael Sangiacomo and Carl Matzelle

Plain Dealer Reporters

 

South Amherst — The developer of a proposed $1.25 billion housing and entertainment complex in Lorain County wants to assure residents that, despite delays, the project is on track.

 

Trans European Development Corp. architect Neil Pike said he would speak to residents of South Amherst and Amherst and Brownhelm townships at a public meeting in mid-March.

 

The project is planned for 900 acres of Cleveland Quarry property.

 

Originally, work to clear the land for construction was to start in June.

 

 

To reach these Plain Dealer reporters: [email protected], 216-999-4890

 

 

so today they are talking airports. note below for the first time it says this company has developed four other golf course resorts around the world, this one being the first in the united states. i would love to be able to see those other resorts (tho i'd imagine that would give away the backer, be he an oil shiek or whomever) -- i say lets get to more trench coat colombo style sleuthing on that you guys!:

 

 

Quarry developer interested in using airports

MATT SUMAN, Morning Journal Writer02/23/2006

 

SOUTH AMHERST -- An architect for the British company Trans European Securities LLP said the firm is interested in eventually incorporating area airports in future developments with the Cleveland Quarries project.

 

 

Neil Pike, an architect for Trans European, said though the company has not yet talked to area airport officials, they realize the proximity of the Lorain County Regional Airport and Cleveland Hopkins International Airport could be beneficial to their planned $1.5 billion resort in South Amherst and Amherst and Brownhelm townships.

 

 

There was talk of the ski slopes area, but not indoor.  I think this was mentioned one other time before, it would get redundant to mention every proposed feature in every article.

 

Just like most of the recent articles have left out something about the equestrian area and running trails.  They'll probably add them it back in in more comprehensive articles that focus on the details of the different "zones"

(off topic... sort off)

 

Check this out:

 

http://clevelandplanner.blogspot.com/2006/03/montreals-mirabel-airport-to-be-turned.html

 

 

Well a land deal should be in the works here soon I'd think.  The end of March is coming up..

Deal for quarry in sight

 

A British developer is close to purchasing 900 acres of Cleveland Quarry property in Lorain County, but the deal will not close as scheduled, said lawyer Mark Schildhouse of the Cleveland law firm Kohrman Jackson & Krantz. The firm represents Trans European Development Corp., which had agreed to purchase five retired quarries from American Stone Corp. for $15.2 million by March 31. Both sides agreed to work beyond last Friday's deadline because of the size of the deal, Schildhouse said.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1144226215101640.xml&coll=2