August 23, 20231 yr 7 hours ago, Pablo said: This isn't a Sheetz..... But a Sheetz would be a wonderful replacement for where the current terminal is at the turnaround 😉. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 17, 20231 yr CMH-SLC returning in June on a 738. Great news! https://newshub.columbusairports.com/storage/production/20230915115544-delta-slc-announcement.pdf
September 18, 20231 yr More on that... Nonstop air service from Columbus to Salt Lake City will return June 2024 Delta Air Lines will restart nonstop flights between Columbus and Salt Lake City next summer. The route from John Glenn Columbus International Airport to Salt Lake City International Airport will begin June 7, 2024, with daily flights. The route was cut in March 2020 at the onset of the pandemic, according to the Columbus Regional Airport Authority. Both airport leaders and customers are grateful for the return of the service to the popular destination, Joseph Nardone, Columbus Regional Airport Authority CEO, said in a release. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/09/18/nonstop-air-service-columbus-salt-lake-city-2024.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 26, 20231 yr I know our airport is not a large, but I only seem to see passenger numbers for Cleveland and Cincinnati. Does anyone here know where CMH posts their numbers and where we are for the year so far? I'm trying to recall what numbers we were seeing in 2019 pre-pandemic and if we are inching back to that level?
September 26, 20231 yr They post them here. Columbus is not as regimented in posting them so we don't get as real time as some others. https://flycolumbus.com/flights/airline-stats
September 26, 20231 yr 5 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: They post them here. Columbus is not as regimented in posting them so we don't get as real time as some others. https://flycolumbus.com/flights/airline-stats The last line is total passengers (thru July).
September 26, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Gnoraa said: I know our airport is not a large, but I only seem to see passenger numbers for Cleveland and Cincinnati. Does anyone here know where CMH posts their numbers and where we are for the year so far? I'm trying to recall what numbers we were seeing in 2019 pre-pandemic and if we are inching back to that level? I used to post updates about our PAX numbers pretty regularly, but I've become lazy, lol. We are pretty much at pre-pandemic levels now though.
October 26, 20231 yr Southwest is adding seasonal flights from CMH to San Diego (Saturdays only) and Kansas City (Sundays only) starting in June. These are weekend only seasonal flights, but it's great news nonetheless. Austin was a seasonal once weekly flight just a year or two ago and now it's a daily year round route. Houston is similar I believe. So hopefully Southwest will see some success with these routes and expand them.
October 26, 20231 yr More on that... Southwest adding new nonstop service from Columbus to San Diego and Kansas City Southwest Airlines will increase the number of cities it serves from Columbus in 2024. The airline will add nonstop flights from John Glenn Columbus International Airport to Kansas City and San Diego international airports next summer. The new routes will begin in June with weekly service for both destinations. Airport leaders said San Diego and Kansas City are both among the top destinations and two of the largest unserved destinations for Columbus travelers. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/10/26/columbus-airport-gains-more-new-nonstop-services.html & https://columbusunderground.com/new-direct-flights-from-cmh-to-kansas-city-san-diego-we1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 29, 20231 yr Awesome to get San Diego back, even at just 1x weekly. Hopefully they're successful and frequency expands
November 21, 20231 yr Columbus airports expect more travelers for Thanksgiving 2023 More than 210,000 seats have been sold on flights scheduled to depart John Glenn Columbus International Airport and the smaller Rickenbacker Passenger Terminal between Nov. 16 and Nov. 29, according to the Columbus Regional Airport Authority. That surpasses last year's return to pre-pandemic levels, when 200,000 seats were sold for CMH. Nov. 21 and Nov. 27 are expected to be the busiest days, with 17,500 travelers set to depart. The Sunday after the holiday follows close behind, with 17,300 passengers expected. Columbus airports have seen more than 6.4 million passengers combined year-to-date, a 10% increase over the 2022 year-to-date 5.8 million passengers. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/11/20/2023-columbus-thanksgiving-travel.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 21, 20231 yr 11 hours ago, ColDayMan said: Columbus airports expect more travelers for Thanksgiving 2023 More than 210,000 seats have been sold on flights scheduled to depart John Glenn Columbus International Airport and the smaller Rickenbacker Passenger Terminal between Nov. 16 and Nov. 29, according to the Columbus Regional Airport Authority. That surpasses last year's return to pre-pandemic levels, when 200,000 seats were sold for CMH. Nov. 21 and Nov. 27 are expected to be the busiest days, with 17,500 travelers set to depart. The Sunday after the holiday follows close behind, with 17,300 passengers expected. Columbus airports have seen more than 6.4 million passengers combined year-to-date, a 10% increase over the 2022 year-to-date 5.8 million passengers. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/11/20/2023-columbus-thanksgiving-travel.html I wish they would/could speed up construction on the new terminal already.
December 29, 20231 yr Very random question, but back in 2022 I wrote an article about a Cincinnati sculptor and the “sculpture park” he installed in the city’s Downtown. In doing that research, I came upon the fact that he installed a first run test piece at Port Columbus International Airport (now John Glenn). I finally came across a photo of it (dated 1984). Does anyone know if it’s still there?
December 29, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Gordon Bombay said: Very random question, but back in 2022 I wrote an article about a Cincinnati sculptor and the “sculpture park” he installed in the city’s Downtown. In doing that research, I came upon the fact that he installed a first run test piece at Port Columbus International Airport (now John Glenn). I finally came across a photo of it (dated 1984). Does anyone know if it’s still there? How cool! It's definitely not in any public area that I know of. I would certainly ask the CRAA if it's stored somewhere. That would be a great piece to display along with Brushstrokes in Flight. Edited December 29, 20231 yr by CMHOhio
December 29, 20231 yr A bit more background I found. The Fink piece was commissioned at the same time as Brushstrokes in Flight and another by Aretha Tacha. All three were installed and dedicated in the same ceremony. It appears the Tacha and Fink pieces were installed in the grassy areas where the great hall and A gates now stand. Based on the type of installation the Fink and Tacha pieces were and their location, my guess is they were not preserved in the expansion that would start just a handful of years later. I'd have to do more archival digging for certainty but I think it's a solid bet they are both gone. Also learned that Rinehart hated it and tried to give Brushstrokes to Genoa Italy as a thank you for the 1955 giant Columbus Statue formerly at city hall. Edited December 29, 20231 yr by DTCL11
December 29, 20231 yr DTCL11 for the win! @Gordon Bombay^ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 5, 20241 yr Today's 10 Projects to Watch article in the Dispatch highlights the following: What to watch: 2024 won't bring a new terminal to the airport but the year could be critical nonetheless for the project. Look for the Columbus Regional Airport Authority to make a decision, likely this summer, on whether to move forward on the project. If so, work could start by the end of the year, and be completed within five years. Which I thought it was a go, but then I went back and read their article from last August. "We made significant progress in the last year," Nardone said. "It’s not a go yet. There's still a lot of work to do before the (airport authority) board makes a final go or no-go decision." I guess I was under the impression it was full steam ahead but these articles make it seem like it's not a given yet. The August article said the decision should be made early this year and the 10 Projects article says likely summer.
January 5, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: Today's 10 Projects to Watch article in the Dispatch highlights the following: What to watch: 2024 won't bring a new terminal to the airport but the year could be critical nonetheless for the project. Look for the Columbus Regional Airport Authority to make a decision, likely this summer, on whether to move forward on the project. If so, work could start by the end of the year, and be completed within five years. Which I thought it was a go, but then I went back and read their article from last August. "We made significant progress in the last year," Nardone said. "It’s not a go yet. There's still a lot of work to do before the (airport authority) board makes a final go or no-go decision." I guess I was under the impression it was full steam ahead but these articles make it seem like it's not a given yet. The August article said the decision should be made early this year and the 10 Projects article says likely summer. It could just be more of a procedural thing than anything else. You can't officially approve a new terminal project for construction until you have the full plans for the new terminal.
January 6, 20241 yr Yes they have authorized funds for design but not for construction, mainly because you can't go out to bid until you have complete, approved plans
January 17, 20241 yr Local story from NBC4 about new flights from CMH and greater than expected demand flying out of Columbus. They also reiterate the new terminal should be done by late 2028 or early '29.
January 25, 20241 yr New $2 billion John Glenn Columbus International Airport terminal lands key board approval Columbus Regional Airport Authority board members have approved $250 million in construction funding for a new terminal, bringing the massive project at John Glenn Columbus International Airport one step closer to reality. "We're excited to be moving forward in our plans to deliver a first-class airport experience for the people of Columbus and Central Ohio," Airport Authority President and CEO Joe Nardone said in a statement. Work is to begin this spring, with a groundbreaking expected in early 2025. Airport officials anticipate an early 2029 opening — the same time the airport celebrates its 100th anniversary.
January 25, 20241 yr 46 minutes ago, VintageLife said: New $2 billion John Glenn Columbus International Airport terminal lands key board approval Columbus Regional Airport Authority board members have approved $250 million in construction funding for a new terminal, bringing the massive project at John Glenn Columbus International Airport one step closer to reality. "We're excited to be moving forward in our plans to deliver a first-class airport experience for the people of Columbus and Central Ohio," Airport Authority President and CEO Joe Nardone said in a statement. Work is to begin this spring, with a groundbreaking expected in early 2025. Airport officials anticipate an early 2029 opening — the same time the airport celebrates its 100th anniversary. Some other key notes from the article: - 60% design is complete. - The $250 mil covers design and implementation of pre-construction, baggage handling, utility corridor needs and other civil engineering concerns. - Work will begin this spring with a groundbreaking expected in early 2025. - CRAA wants to complete the terminal by 2029 in time for the airport's 100th anniversary.
January 25, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, John7165 said: Some other key notes from the article: - 60% design is complete. - The $250 mil covers design and implementation of pre-construction, baggage handling, utility corridor needs and other civil engineering concerns. - Work will begin this spring with a groundbreaking expected in early 2025. - CRAA wants to complete the terminal by 2029 in time for the airport's 100th anniversary. Someone on Reddit was saying that 2029 is really far away and I had to disagree. It’s only 5 years from now and that time will go very fast. Hopefully they can actually get it done by then.
January 25, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said: Does this require FAA approval? For the terminal itself, no. For enabling work that would require the relocation of aircraft movement areas like taxiways, yes. Though I think most of that was already done with the relocation of Runway 28L/10R.
January 26, 20241 yr On 1/25/2024 at 5:57 PM, VintageLife said: Someone on Reddit was saying that 2029 is really far away and I had to disagree. It’s only 5 years from now and that time will go very fast. Hopefully they can actually get it done by then. It took Kansas City 4 years from Ground Breaking to Opening of a nearly identical facility in terms of size and location. 1 million SF for both. 39 gates (vs CMH 36). And built separate of the existing terminal to allow an immediate transition. Ground breaking in 2025 and opening in 2029 would match the next closest project in America.
January 27, 20241 yr 27 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: It took Kansas City 4 years from Ground Breaking to Opening of a nearly identical facility in terms of size and location. 1 million SF for both. 39 gates (vs CMH 36). And built separate of the existing terminal to allow an immediate transition. Ground breaking in 2025 and opening in 2029 would match the next closest project in America. Good to know, I’m excited for it to start and to see the finished design plans.
February 1, 20241 yr John Glenn Columbus International Airport leaders detail next steps for $2B terminal project The Columbus Regional Airport Authority has taken the most significant vote yet on the new $2 billion new terminal planned for John Glenn Columbus International Airport, approving $250 million in construction funding to get the project started in earnest. That's just the first of several key phases of funding to be approved in the coming months. Following the vote, airport leaders exclusively shared renderings of the new terminal with Columbus First, along with a detailed breakdown of the project timeline as it's laid out today. The plan is to construct a 1 million-square-foot terminal that would add seven additional gates — allowing the airport to handle more flights, more travelers and different types and sizes of aircraft — as well as higher-capacity seating areas, upgrades to airport infrastructure and the potential for future expansion. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/02/01/columbus-airport-new-terminal-renderings-timeline.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 1, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: John Glenn Columbus International Airport leaders detail next steps for $2B terminal project The Columbus Regional Airport Authority has taken the most significant vote yet on the new $2 billion new terminal planned for John Glenn Columbus International Airport, approving $250 million in construction funding to get the project started in earnest. That's just the first of several key phases of funding to be approved in the coming months. Following the vote, airport leaders exclusively shared renderings of the new terminal with Columbus First, along with a detailed breakdown of the project timeline as it's laid out today. The plan is to construct a 1 million-square-foot terminal that would add seven additional gates — allowing the airport to handle more flights, more travelers and different types and sizes of aircraft — as well as higher-capacity seating areas, upgrades to airport infrastructure and the potential for future expansion. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/02/01/columbus-airport-new-terminal-renderings-timeline.html The renderings look great. Hopefully they get this rolling soon!
February 1, 20241 yr Yes, I'm liking what I'm seeing. They're definitely taking proven elements of recent terminal design and applying it to this project. The 60% renderings are reminiscent of the structures at LGA, IND, EWR, MCI and others. I hope the final designs will incorporate more local flourishes and color.
February 1, 20241 yr 36 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: more local flourishes and color. More Cows! MORE ARCHES!
February 2, 20241 yr I will say I don't love the entry hall. I will miss the height and architecture of the current airport, and the half round as well. I wish they would bump up the entry ceilings another 10 feet and the gates another 5. Edited February 2, 20241 yr by DTCL11
February 2, 20241 yr I don't love the baggage claim area either. Needs more cowbell. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 2, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I will say I don't love the entry hall. I will miss the height and architecture of the current airport, and the half round as well. I wish they would bump up the entry ceilings another 10 feet and the gates another 5. Idk, they look like they are about 25 ft high at the door entrance so the road part is probably 30+ that seems pretty high.
February 2, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, VintageLife said: Idk, they look like they are about 25 ft high at the door entrance so the road part is probably 30+ that seems pretty high. It's not not High. But the current rendering is just high ceilings and not high high like I would prefer it. Hope that clarifies it lol. Just a bit more oomph that the front half of the entry ceiling. Maybe carrying the vault from the drop off to the interior? Edited February 2, 20241 yr by DTCL11
February 2, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, DTCL11 said: I will say I don't love the entry hall. I will miss the height and architecture of the current airport, and the half round as well. I wish they would bump up the entry ceilings another 10 feet and the gates another 5. Agreed. I'm also surprised they're going with airline counters in the configuration shown - most newer airports have multiple rows of counters oriented perpendicular to the entry resulting in a much more open feeling ticketing hall. What's shown instead is the 20th century standard of a long single row parallel to the doors (similar to what we have now but with a lower ceiling) Compare the rendering above to Indianapolis' airport below Edited February 2, 20241 yr by NW24HX
February 2, 20241 yr Just now, NW24HX said: I'm also surprised they're going with airline counters in the configuration shown - most newer airports have multiple rows of counters oriented perpendicular to the entry resulting in a much more open feeling ticketing hall. What's shown instead is the 20th century standard of a long single row parallel to the doors I didn't even catch that but that's also correct. It's supposedly also better for flow. But not sure it's been standardized quite yet. Kansas City, the newest ground up airport in the country, like ours will be, opted for the old style as well.
February 7, 20241 yr https://columbusunderground.com/new-airport-terminal-renderings-timeline-released-bw1/
February 7, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, DarkandStormy said: They're demolishing the existing terminal? Yes, this will be a full replacement of the current terminal.
February 7, 20241 yr New Airport Terminal Renderings, Timeline Released Plans to build a new terminal at the John Glenn Columbus International Airport are progressing. Today the Columbus Regional Airport Authority (CRAA) released new renderings of the planned terminal, and also unveiled a new website featuring the latest information about the project. The updated timeline for the project calls for a groundbreaking in early 2025 and for construction to continue through 2028, with a target opening date in early 2029. “The new terminal for John Glenn International is beginning to take shape and we’re excited to share its progress,” said Joseph R. Nardone, President & CEO of CRAA, in a press release. “We are committed to delivering a state-of-the-art terminal that meets and exceeds the needs of travelers today and into the future.” More below: https://columbusunderground.com/new-airport-terminal-renderings-timeline-released-bw1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 8, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, VintageLife said: Yes, this will be a full replacement of the current terminal. So they just spent $100m renovating an existing terminal and will now spend $2bn to add a total of seven additional gates? I guess save this comment for 2030 when people start complaining we don't have enough gates lol Very Stable Genius
February 8, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, DarkandStormy said: So they just spent $100m renovating an existing terminal and will now spend $2bn to add a total of seven additional gates? I guess save this comment for 2030 when people start complaining we don't have enough gates lol The current terminal is extremely outdated and the last renovation was just to keep it going until it could be replaced. This is very much needed for the city and will be a great thing. It’s not just about adding only 7 new gates. It’s updating everything from the bathrooms, mechanics, security, checkin and baggage. Not to mention making all the gates able to have 737s.
February 8, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, DarkandStormy said: So they just spent $100m renovating an existing terminal and will now spend $2bn to add a total of seven additional gates? I guess save this comment for 2030 when people start complaining we don't have enough gates lol The renovations updated outdated elements of the airport to buy time, in all, about 10 years so it's not a waste. They still need to be able to attract travelers and business in that time. As far as gates go, 39 gates, at an average of 6 turnarounds per day per gate, that's 234 flights in and the same out. Columbus averaged 113 airline landings in Dec 2023 per their data sheet. They advertise 148. Plenty of room. There are already gates that operate once a day if that. It's all going to come down to leasing. But if airlines keep the same number of gates they currently have more or less, then we've got alot of flights before 39 isn't enough. The only reason it won't feel like enough, or feels tight now, especially in A gates, is the way airlines bank flights. So even a new terminal will feel 'full' for the 6am bank, 5pm bank, etc. Airlines don't spread out their flights, they cluster them to Maximize connections. What most people don't experience is when the airport feels empty between the banks, even our current terminal. That's when airlines would be able to expand flights as is.
February 8, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: The renovations updated outdated elements of the airport to buy time, in all, about 10 years so it's not a waste. They still need to be able to attract travelers and business in that time. As far as gates go, 39 gates, at an average of 6 turnarounds per day per gate, that's 234 flights in and the same out. Columbus averaged 113 airline landings in Dec 2023 per their data sheet. They advertise 148. Plenty of room. There are already gates that operate once a day if that. It's all going to come down to leasing. But if airlines keep the same number of gates they currently have more or less, then we've got alot of flights before 39 isn't enough. The only reason it won't feel like enough, or feels tight now, especially in A gates, is the way airlines bank flights. So even a new terminal will feel 'full' for the 6am bank, 5pm bank, etc. Airlines don't spread out their flights, they cluster them to Maximize connections. What most people don't experience is when the airport feels empty between the banks, even our current terminal. That's when airlines would be able to expand flights as is. Exactly, Austin Texas, a way bigger tourist destination than Columbus, only has 34 gates and they seem to mine fine. Outside of hubs, it doesn’t seem like many airports have more than 35 or so gates. It will work just fine and I’m sure if air travel kicked up and there was a need for more gates, they could add more.
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