10 minutes ago, KyleofColumbus said:

I'm very happy to see John Glenn International receiving a brand new world class terminal. With how much Columbus is growing and investments going into the city we really need to get at least 1 or 2 European Direct Flights.

Give me Schiphol all year with a seasonal flight to Paris.

I'm curious how many folks come in outside of our metro to fly with no real airport options on the east/south east side of the state (unless you go to Pittsburgh).

I would absolutely love a direct to AMS, even if it was something like a 4x/weekly flight. I'm fairly confident we'll have a European flight announced right around the time the new terminal opens.

To your last point though, the population in that area of the state really isn't all that high. We certainly get most of those people who need to fly, but very few of them actually fly, and there aren't many people living there to begin with.

What's crazy to me is CMH is actually slightly closer in terms of drive time to DAY than CVG is to DAY. CMH is a legit option for many people north of downtown Dayton in terms of direct flights not offered at DAY.

2 hours ago, cbussoccer said:

I would absolutely love a direct to AMS, even if it was something like a 4x/weekly flight. I'm fairly confident we'll have a European flight announced right around the time the new terminal opens.

To your last point though, the population in that area of the state really isn't all that high. We certainly get most of those people who need to fly, but very few of them actually fly, and there aren't many people living there to begin with.

What's crazy to me is CMH is actually slightly closer in terms of drive time to DAY than CVG is to DAY. CMH is a legit option for many people north of downtown Dayton in terms of direct flights not offered at DAY.

Also a fantastic point if you look at any of the cities on the North West side before you get to close to Detroit or Cleveland (Lima, Marion, Sidney, Piqua, and possibly Findlay?)

Either way I think the flight into Schiphol would be the best option due to it's many connecting flights to other countries in Europe / Asia.

15 minutes ago, KyleofColumbus said:

Also a fantastic point if you look at any of the cities on the North West side before you get to close to Detroit or Cleveland (Lima, Marion, Sidney, Piqua, and possibly Findlay?)

Annectdotally, Northwest folks I have known over the years split between Columbus or Detroit who has the benefit of many more direct flights. Folks would sooner drive the 2+ hours to DTW for a direct vs 1-2 hours to CMH and have a layover in an airport they dont like.

Western folks I have known over the years still generally choose Cincy because it has a reputation of being less expensive. Now, how those costs ACTUALLY bear out is a different story after driving that far but I knew folks who lived in Marysville that would always fly out of Cincy instead. (An outlier) but they were also originally from Celina.

I believe CMH is the unofficial airport for non-Wheeling West Virginia as well.

2 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

I believe CMH is the unofficial airport for non-Wheeling West Virginia as well.

I always thought that was Pittsburgh...

37 minutes ago, columbus17 said:

I always thought that was Pittsburgh...

CMH is closer to Charleston, Huntington, and Parkersburg (three of WV's biggest metros) than it is to Pittsburgh. That's why I said non-Wheeling West Virginia.

3 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

I knew folks who lived in Marysville that would always fly out of Cincy instead.

That is insane. Even if CVG had a nonstop option that CMH didn't, the drive alone negates whatever layover you would have had flying out of CMH. And nowadays there are hardly any nonstops out of CVG that you can't get out of CMH.

15 hours ago, cbussoccer said:

That is insane. Even if CVG had a nonstop option that CMH didn't, the drive alone negates whatever layover you would have had flying out of CMH. And nowadays there are hardly any nonstops out of CVG that you can't get out of CMH.

To piggy back, as a Celina native with family still there, CMH is the airport used 90% of the time. If anything, Detroit is preferred for any true direct international. My sisters family actually just did this for their recent vacation to Mexico. Additionally, as crazy as it sounds, Indianapolis is considered before Cincinnati in most cases from the Celina area, however CMH is still the one used 90%+ of the time. Prior to covid causing quite a few lost options/routes especially via SW, my mother and much of her retired friends usually preferred Dayton because it was so nearby, hardly even an hour drive. Most people, primarily retired and traveling get very intimidated by the whole I-75 route through Cincinnati and into Kentucky.

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19 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

I believe CMH is the unofficial airport for non-Wheeling West Virginia as well.

The airports is WV are pretty small. There were plans for a combined airport shared by Huntington and Charleston but it was shelved as "not really needed" and "too much money".

Frontier adds more flights to Atlanta flights to CMH

Frontier Airlines announced this week it will add twice-weekly, non-stop service from Atlanta to Columbus.

Tickets for as little as $49 can be purchased through June 25 for flights through Nov. 19. Tickets must be purchased at least 14 days in advance.

Frontier's bi-weekly flights from John Glenn Columbus International Airport to Atlanta are mostly scheduled around 12:30 p.m. on various weekdays, according to Fly Columbus' interactive flight map.

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2025/06/18/frontier-adding-atlanta-flights-cmh.html

On 6/17/2025 at 10:16 AM, KyleofColumbus said:

I'm very happy to see John Glenn International receiving a brand new world class terminal. With how much Columbus is growing and investments going into the city we really need to get at least 1 or 2 European Direct Flights.

Give me Schiphol all year with a seasonal flight to Paris.

I'm curious how many folks come in outside of our metro to fly with no real airport options on the east/south east side of the state (unless you go to Pittsburgh).

I can tell you right now there wont be an AMS or CDG flight to CMH anytime soon or even after the airport is built, unless there is a major incentive for them to introduce the route. PIT and IND had CDG via DL but they were paid for with state and city funds, once the funds dried up the flights went away.

CVG has CDG and it does not receive funds due to the success of the route and the heavy cargo. LHR does receive funds but only if the flight loads are below a certain percentage. The route is doing well with a 92% load factor and BA is making money in cargo as well out of CVG. It helps we have Procter and Gamble and GE Aviation based in Cincinnati.

CMH would have a better chance trying to land an Icelandair flight through SWA partnership, or an Aer Lingus route similar to what CLE was able to snag for starters...

On 6/17/2025 at 9:16 AM, KyleofColumbus said:

I'm very happy to see John Glenn International receiving a brand new world class terminal. With how much Columbus is growing and investments going into the city we really need to get at least 1 or 2 European Direct Flights.

Give me Schiphol all year with a seasonal flight to Paris.

I'm curious how many folks come in outside of our metro to fly with no real airport options on the east/south east side of the state (unless you go to Pittsburgh).

Unfortunately it’s not going to happen for a while. It’s just too easy for airlines to connect CMH to hubs for connections. There is a lot of traffic internationally from CMH, however the airports around us have all offered subsidies for the service.

It would be fantastic if we could achieve it without, but finding an airline that has any appetite for it will be challenging.

LHR, slot restrictions. If we were to gain service it would be from a slot given up from an under performing city.

AMS, having a hell Of a time arguing about international connection capacity bans. You can read about it if you search. But outside of capacity to hub cities in the US theres very few small Markets in the running for service.

DUB- probably the best possibility for now as Aer Lingua still has more A321LR/XLR on order.

KEF- some potential perhaps if we get the route from another underperforming city.

MAD- Could never imagine Iberia choosing to commit an air frame when OneWorld connections from AA are so easily attainable. Makes no sense for them.

LIS-slot restricted no chance.

CDG- possibly. But again Delta connections are so easily attainable as a skyteam member.

FRA-Could be a potential market, STL has performed well for Lufthansa. Again, difficult to reason a non stop with star alliance hubs readily available.

Not only do they need to be able to fill most likely a wide body aircraft, (which i believe they could today) More importantly they need to be able to charge for it.

Columbus just needs to keep growing and it will

come. If we could attract that service without a subsidy it would be incredible. Once the cat is out of the bag with a subsidy you are dancing with the devil.