March 9, 20223 yr I've been tossing around the idea of whether or not Breeze is Columbus' best chance at becoming a hub. None of the other big airlines are going to add Columbus as a hub. Not with other hubs so close. But the timing might be right with the new terminal for Breeze to have a bit of leverage and input into the new terminal as well. Currently, Columbus has the 4th most destinations of the 27 airports currently and slated for service. And with Breeze offering a much larger (quantity) of first class seats, much more in line with Delta, American, or United, they'll be able to compete with that market offering more point to point destinations like SW. This is also versus a Frontier and Spirit with much more limited seating options. Want the point to point access of Southwest with more seating options? Sounds like Breeze has the market to gain. Also, Breeze Airways fits with the CMH blue branding anyway... so there's that too. Lol.
March 9, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, DTCL11 said: I've been tossing around the idea of whether or not Breeze is Columbus' best chance at becoming a hub. None of the other big airlines are going to add Columbus as a hub. Not with other hubs so close. But the timing might be right with the new terminal for Breeze to have a bit of leverage and input into the new terminal as well. Currently, Columbus has the 4th most destinations of the 27 airports currently and slated for service. And with Breeze offering a much larger (quantity) of first class seats, much more in line with Delta, American, or United, they'll be able to compete with that market offering more point to point destinations like SW. This is also versus a Frontier and Spirit with much more limited seating options. Want the point to point access of Southwest with more seating options? Sounds like Breeze has the market to gain. Also, Breeze Airways fits with the CMH blue branding anyway... so there's that too. Lol. If we see Breeze expanding West from Columbus in the fall when they are said to have another big expansion planned, then we can believe they are developing CMH as a possible hub airport.
March 9, 20223 yr 15 hours ago, DTCL11 said: I've been tossing around the idea of whether or not Breeze is Columbus' best chance at becoming a hub. None of the other big airlines are going to add Columbus as a hub. Not with other hubs so close. But the timing might be right with the new terminal for Breeze to have a bit of leverage and input into the new terminal as well. Currently, Columbus has the 4th most destinations of the 27 airports currently and slated for service. And with Breeze offering a much larger (quantity) of first class seats, much more in line with Delta, American, or United, they'll be able to compete with that market offering more point to point destinations like SW. This is also versus a Frontier and Spirit with much more limited seating options. Want the point to point access of Southwest with more seating options? Sounds like Breeze has the market to gain. Also, Breeze Airways fits with the CMH blue branding anyway... so there's that too. Lol. Breeze is looking into the possibility of adding international flights, so CMH becoming a Breeze hub could be huge for our hopes of getting direct service to Europe. https://simpleflying.com/breeze-airways-international-flights/ With that said, I highly doubt CMH will become a hub for Breeze, but one can hope.
March 18, 20223 yr How Intel's arrival could spur more nonstop flights from Columbus Could Intel's growth in Central Ohio spur access to more nonstop flights from John Glenn Columbus International Airport? The region's top airport official thinks so. Joe Nardone, president and CEO of the Columbus Regional Airport Authority, recently told Columbus Business First that "the growth in what Intel plans here will be a significant bump to this airport." "Anywhere that Intel wants to fly their employees is going to be a priority for us," Nardone said. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/03/18/intel-arrival-nonstop-flights-columbus.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 18, 20223 yr Not sure if it's addressed or not in the article, but maybe Intel can be a big sponsor for some of the 'extras' that the airport may want. Probably won't require a tram, but a nice Skywalk system for connected garages etc. Ultimately, Columbus doesn't need to be a big airport. It just needs to be a well done airport. I was just in Providence this week, and although it's a time machine (they are updating), I could help but think it's a great model for what to expect in terms of size and organization. I found myself legitimately thinking, 'oh. This is what security will feel like when all the airlines have a single security checkpoint'... so long to the days of 10 minutes to get through security, or 2 with TSA Precheck. But thats not a complaint. Just a reality we get to look forward to when completed.
March 18, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, ColDayMan said: Joe Nardone, president and CEO of the Columbus Regional Airport Authority, recently told Columbus Business First that "the growth in what Intel plans here will be a significant bump to this airport." "Anywhere that Intel wants to fly their employees is going to be a priority for us," Nardone said. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/03/18/intel-arrival-nonstop-flights-columbus.html Wow. What an asinine thing to say. F#$^# you Honda, F$@# you L Brands, F$#@# Nationwide. We only care where Intel wants to fly--that's our priority.
March 19, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, jcw92 said: Wow. What an asinine thing to say. F#$^# you Honda, F$@# you L Brands, F$#@# Nationwide. We only care where Intel wants to fly--that's our priority. I don't think that thought process is the intention of his statement.
March 19, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, richNcincy said: I don't think that thought process is the intention of his statement. I agree. But that's result of what he said. Imagine if you are L Brands or Nationwide or Huntington and you heard that statement. How would you feel? I think a public apology is in order.
March 19, 20223 yr 14 hours ago, jcw92 said: Wow. What an asinine thing to say. F#$^# you Honda, F$@# you L Brands, F$#@# Nationwide. We only care where Intel wants to fly--that's our priority. At what point does he say they only care about where Intel wants to fly?
March 20, 20223 yr 13 hours ago, cbussoccer said: At what point does he say they only care about where Intel wants to fly? Its implied. People don't have to say things explicitly. And even if he didn't mean "F$^%# You, Nationwide", that is exactly how it is received. From the article: "Joe Nardone, president and CEO of the Columbus Regional Airport Authority, recently told Columbus Business First that "the growth in what Intel plans here will be a significant bump to this airport." "Anywhere that Intel wants to fly their employees is going to be a priority for us," Nardone said."
March 20, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, jcw92 said: Its implied. People don't have to say things explicitly. And even if he didn't mean "F$^%# You, Nationwide", that is exactly how it is received. From the article: "Joe Nardone, president and CEO of the Columbus Regional Airport Authority, recently told Columbus Business First that "the growth in what Intel plans here will be a significant bump to this airport." "Anywhere that Intel wants to fly their employees is going to be a priority for us," Nardone said." They already know where the other large companies in Columbus need to fly, so those already exist. Intel is brand new and has different needs, so of course they are going to be a priority in the near term. I think you are overreacting.
March 21, 20223 yr I think the comment was misguided on 2 fronts. 1. It does give an air of dismissiveness to others but I think it was unintentional. Our other big players have been around long enough that if they had any influence on routes, it would have happened already. 2. It does represent how routes are chosen. Airport CEOs have very little say anyway. Ultimately, airlines make the decisions. An airport can do what they can to sway an airline, but if the airline doesn't see it as profitable, it doesn't happen. And in some cases, if an airline sees an encroachment on something they find profitable, then they can take it out on the airport as well. At best, we can hope for more consistent west coast options. This would be a primary gateway to Asia. Columbus will most likely never have a transoceanic flight but if we can get more access to the Western gateways, then we unlock alot of additional travel and access potential for a portion of the travel market we lack more. With dozens of flights daily to LGA, EWR, ATL, JFK, access so Europe is a breeze. But limited flights to LAX, SEA, SFO, etc hamper better access to Asian markets. Along the lines of a company helping dictate what new routes are availavle, Nationwide employs more than Intel promises and there are no directs to their second headquarters in Des Moines Iowa. In fact, NW adapted to the airports and transitioned more assets to Pheonix and away from places like Lynchburg VA and Gainesville FL. Honda has been here for decades and also employs more than Intel will and it hasn't had any major impact on west coast access, the gateway to Asia. This also discounts the fact that Honda, Nationwide, AEP, Huntington, and I'm sure more all have their own pilots and airplanes for high level travel. (Some contractual like netjets, and others like AEP own their own corporate jets) In 2011, United and American Sued O'Hare Airport over the expansion plans becuase they didn't want competitors to be able to get certain routes and didn't want to pay additional fees charges by the airport authority. Eventually, they all negotiated but the airlines dictated the final terms. Granted, it's a major hub so the politics are much more intense there than they would be here but it shows that Airlines get far more say than the Airports in decisions about routes.
March 21, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: This also discounts the fact that Honda, Nationwide, AEP, Huntington, and I'm sure more all have their own pilots and airplanes for high level travel. (Some contractual like netjets, and others like AEP own their own corporate jets) This is how all large companies operate. No company is sending their ELT members on commercial flights for domestic trips. 12 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: Along the lines of a company helping dictate what new routes are availavle, Nationwide employs more than Intel promises and there are no directs to their second headquarters in Des Moines Iowa. In fact, NW adapted to the airports and transitioned more assets to Pheonix and away from places like Lynchburg VA and Gainesville FL. Honda has been here for decades and also employs more than Intel will and it hasn't had any major impact on west coast access, the gateway to Asia. Aside from Nationwide having some offices in Des Moines necessitating periodic business travel, there would be virtually no demand for a direct flight out of CMH. No airline would take that route. A direct route from CMH to a gateway in Asia would require a massive amount of demand in order to make it feasible. You would two or three Honda-type companies in order to pull that off. But a direct route from CMH to the Bay Area or PDX will be much easier to pull off. There's already demand for both areas before Intel even begins to have an impact. Southwest has flown to OAK on and off over the years and United was flying to SFO until Covid killed that. A large reason for the SFO flight was the demand to go to Asia. We didn't have enough demand to get a direct to Asia, but we had enough people wanting to go the Bay Area / Asia that the direct made sense. Since Covid happened and travel to Asia became non-existent, the flight didn't make sense. But, now that travel is rebounding and Intel is coming in, there will be more than enough demand for the Bay Area. PDX is a good vacation destination aside from the Intel travel demand. It could likely support a Southwest route, even if it's not quite 7x weekly.
March 21, 20223 yr On 3/18/2022 at 4:04 PM, ColDayMan said: How Intel's arrival could spur more nonstop flights from Columbus Could Intel's growth in Central Ohio spur access to more nonstop flights from John Glenn Columbus International Airport? The region's top airport official thinks so. Joe Nardone, president and CEO of the Columbus Regional Airport Authority, recently told Columbus Business First that "the growth in what Intel plans here will be a significant bump to this airport." "Anywhere that Intel wants to fly their employees is going to be a priority for us," Nardone said. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/03/18/intel-arrival-nonstop-flights-columbus.html Well if Portland and San Francisco are the two places needed, then just work with Alaska to build up with two additional flights one to each city on top of the existing Seattle service. If United wont bring back service to SFO that be the only option.
March 21, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, savadams13 said: Well if Portland and San Francisco are the two places needed, then just work with Alaska to build up with two additional flights one to each city on top of the existing Seattle service. If United wont bring back service to SFO that be the only option. According to some on A.net, United is resuming non stops to SFO starting in June Edited March 21, 20223 yr by John7165
March 21, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, John7165 said: According to some on A.net, United is resuming non stops to SFO starting in June Looks like you can book nonstop flights as early as June 3rd. I know nonstop flights to SFO have been available to book numerous times Covid began, only to be pulled as the dates got closer, but I think these ones are here to stay.
March 22, 20223 yr The March CRAA board meeting minutes are online now. Nothing earth shattering this month, but it does seem like the number of passengers is inching upwards. Still waiting for business travel to resume.
March 22, 20223 yr It's seems increasingly likely the wait will longer than we'd probably like. Much like office environments that have made permanent changes to the office work landscape, the business travel landscape is likely going to be a long haul recovery. There won't be a 'bounce back' as much as a long term reassessment and adjustment. There are many companies that have returned to their post pandemic permanent office routine and still aren't prioritizing travel in favor of digital adaptations. Many consultants aren't being called to sites anymore in favor of virtual meetings etc and it's increasingly less related to covid and more to the bottom line. This article highlights the challenges and shows the airlines, and airline consulting firms, are expecting business travel to be pre-pandemic levels in 2024 or beyond. American Airlines is even going as far as planning on how to be profitable without it in the long term. And this was written in the peak of Omicron. So how do airports also adapt to hedge bets less on business travelers and more on leisure travelers? https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-01-30/covid-business-travel-airlines The CRAA minutes seem to indicate we will hear more regarding the RFQs in April/May?
March 22, 20223 yr 48 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I The CRAA minutes seem to indicate we will hear more regarding the RFQs in April/May? I wonder what the criteria will be in selecting the finalist for our terminal. Price maybe? All of the firms submitting interest have a world class design history behind them. It won't be easy picking the right one for us.
March 28, 20223 yr Looks like United has announced non-stop service between CMH and SFO will resume on June 3. https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2022/03/28/united-airlines-resumes-several-popular-nonstops-a.html
April 4, 20223 yr I picked this little item from the Pittsburgh thread on Anet. "From the Air Service development manager of SLC. He says that PIT, DSM, MSN, CLE, and CMH will resume q4 2022 or q1 2023. also IND will resume earlier according to him. https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1468565&sid=0b8a2937f188f1950078d45383efb180 Edited April 4, 20223 yr by John7165
April 21, 20223 yr Outbound to SFO is ideal, but that return flight at 11:03 PST is going to be a killer. https://newshub.columbusairports.com/storage/production/20220421113118-united-resumes-sfo-service.pdf Edited April 21, 20223 yr by John7165
April 21, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, John7165 said: Outbound to SFO is ideal, but that return flight at 11:03 PST is going to be a killer. That's like the five red-eyes back to CVG almost daily, (LAX, LAS, SFO, SEA, PHX). Sucks but makes it nicer than a connection.
April 26, 20223 yr Latest meeting minutes from the CRAA are available now. These are a month behind what currently is happening but there were some notes of interest. * Evaluation of all of the submitted bids for the new terminal have been reviewed and CRAA is in final negotiations with the highest ranking firm. * Engineering work continues for the relocation of Taxiway C * Reclamation of Level 1 in the garage continues for future parking. Signage should be installed by late April. * Intel has indicated there should be an uptick in hotel occupancy starting soon from them. * Breeze continues to grow after starting operations in July of 2021 These posted minutes like mentioned are a month behind so maybe at todays meeting, there could be an announcement of the design firm selected for our new terminal. Edited April 26, 20223 yr by John7165
April 26, 20223 yr Great news for Columbus...from A.Net Quote Well, the big news is out in the newly released agenda for the April 2022 CRAA meeting: the Board will be voting on the selection of Gensler to design the new CMH midfield terminal. Gensler has an impressive global portfolio of airport projects from mega hubs to like-sized airports such as PIT and AUS. The resolution also includes some new details about components of the project including: “a 35-40-gate terminal, aircraft apron/taxiway including a hydrant fueling system, international arrival/processing capabilities, an approximately 5,000 space multistory parking garage…” In a separate motion, the Board will be voting to reserve at least $120,000,000 for design and construction of the terminal. Exciting times ahead as the process plays out! Since it appears Gensler won the competition, here is their website to get a sample of the work they do Edited April 26, 20223 yr by John7165
April 26, 20223 yr Doing a quick search, Gensler was selected to design Pittsburgh's new terminal in July of 2018 with groundbreaking in October of 2021. Three years seems like a long time, but covid got in everybody's way and I'm thinking that had a lot to do with the delay. Completion will be in 2024. So basically six years with a pandemic thrown in from start to finish for the Pittsburgh airport. Edited April 26, 20223 yr by John7165
April 27, 20223 yr Airport officials select design team for new terminal Columbus airport officials have chosen an architecture and planning team to initiate the first stages of designing the new terminal at John Glenn Columbus International Airport. The Columbus Regional Airport Authority on Tuesday approved a resolution to select San Francisco-based firm Gensler, who has partnered with Columbus-based Moody Nolan, to design the project. Gensler operates worldwide and has designed projects for the San Francisco International Airport, Austin Bergstom International Airport, Detroit Metro Airport and airports in China and South Korea. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/04/27/design-team-columbus-cmh-terminal.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 28, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, Pablo said: I believe that's a light rail line...we can only hope. How optimistic of them.
April 28, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, amped91 said: How optimistic of them. I will forever dream. I do remember one of the early press releases saying they were designing the new terminal with the ability to support a rail stop. Basically it said if the city/cota ever pulls their sh*te together and manages to build rail, the airport will be ready to provide access/space for an airport stop on the line. Basically the airport is putting more effort into rail than cota at this point.
April 29, 20223 yr The biggest hurdle to and from the airport has and will continue to be right of way. The rail from the airport to downtown should be a fast and direct line. The fastest and most direct route to downtown is 670 or rail line and without ODOT or CSX etc providing that right of way, the next options are going to be Broad or 5th and those won't provide an express route for visitors or residents. Or if it is an express, why put a rail on Broad or 5th that largely skips the residents? Would visitors and residents ride a rail that that 1. Have to get downtown for and 2. Have to spend 30ish minutes on for local stops when an uber is 12 minutes? I have many beefs with COTA and the city on Transit, but this, like amtrak, isn't a city or COTA thing. It's an ODOT and Private Rail issue. Unless the city starts to argue for eminent domain but I'm not sure that works against ODOT or freight lines. I think at best we could hope that COTA and ODOT work out a method of BRT with a separate dedicated lane (that can't be blocked by a disabled vehicle like the shoulder) and flyover bridges much like portions of Minneapolis's BRT. A pie in the sky idea would be an elevated rail line above 670 or the rail lines. The cost of which for that distance might exceed what is reasonable for an airport to downtown connector.
April 29, 20223 yr Best timeline so far for the terminal. They're saying 2027 is a realistic target date for design, construction, and completion Article from Axios with some additional information about the new midfield terminal. Edited April 29, 20223 yr by John7165
May 16, 20223 yr I had two round trip flights out of CMH last week, and I have to say it's a good thing things are rolling on the new terminal because things were really bursting at the seems. I flew on Southwest for both trips, and the Southwest terminal was completely packed during every flight out of and into CMH. The terminal is simply not large enough to comfortably hold the number of people trying to move through there when the planes are full. Getting through security generally isn't an issue, but bathrooms, restaurants, and seating space is at a premium. I can't wait to see some solidified plans for the new terminal.
May 16, 20223 yr A question...the new terminal is being spec'd out to 900K sq ft. Does anyone know how many sq ft the current terminal has?
May 16, 20223 yr The current terminal is 835,000 sq ft. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 18, 20223 yr I fly Delta once or twice a week and Concourse C is never bursting at the seams. Flight are full but there's still so much space unused there. There are certain operational changes that could be made in the meantime to alleviate the Southwest Terminal bursting at the seams but contracts may impact that and airlines may be upset if Columbus were to start swapping gates. But even some newer terminals I've seen, the gates areas aren't much bigger. A big trend right now is to increase the shared amenity spaces to draw people away from sitting at the gate so long and spend more money on retail and food. I always ask myself about bathrooms at some airports, "we build roads for max capacity during a brief specific time of day? Why don't they do the same for bathrooms?' The newest trend in airport bathrooms: stall occupancy lights on the cielings. Like the parking garages at Easton. I'll still never understand why even a modest elevated walkway to connect concourses has never been an option even for a temporary solution until the new concourse is built. Seems like a connecting walkway should have been a solution even 10 years ago. At least B and C for the major traffic and leave A for smaller airline traffic. I'm really excited for a single terminal and all the people used to 10 minute or less security times not realizing that a single entry security check point is gonna change that real fast. Gonna be a few missed flights if folks arent careful 🤣 And if the new terminal can have a large runway viewing area like Seattle, I'll be an even happier traveler.
May 18, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I fly Delta once or twice a week and Concourse C is never bursting at the seams. Flight are full but there's still so much space unused there. There are certain operational changes that could be made in the meantime to alleviate the Southwest Terminal bursting at the seams but contracts may impact that and airlines may be upset if Columbus were to start swapping gates. But even some newer terminals I've seen, the gates areas aren't much bigger. A big trend right now is to increase the shared amenity spaces to draw people away from sitting at the gate so long and spend more money on retail and food. I always ask myself about bathrooms at some airports, "we build roads for max capacity during a brief specific time of day? Why don't they do the same for bathrooms?' The newest trend in airport bathrooms: stall occupancy lights on the cielings. Like the parking garages at Easton. I'll still never understand why even a modest elevated walkway to connect concourses has never been an option even for a temporary solution until the new concourse is built. Seems like a connecting walkway should have been a solution even 10 years ago. At least B and C for the major traffic and leave A for smaller airline traffic. I'm really excited for a single terminal and all the people used to 10 minute or less security times not realizing that a single entry security check point is gonna change that real fast. Gonna be a few missed flights if folks arent careful 🤣 And if the new terminal can have a large runway viewing area like Seattle, I'll be an even happier traveler. Concourse C isn't bursting at the seams like Concourse A because it's larger while servicing 200k less passengers than Concourse A YTD. According to ridership info that has been released through March, here's how the concourses rank in terms of total passengers: 1. Concourse B: 697,239 2. Concourse A: 532,990 3. Concourse C: 322,457
May 18, 20223 yr Right. I understand that. Even if it was the same or higher, there's still almost double the gates. And that's why I say operational changes can be made and they would seem to be fairly obvious ones but airlines themselves may be preventing that. Southwest would certainly benefit from almost double the gate space, but Delta might threaten to pull flights. Southwest may demand to keep a more exclusive concourse which may be why it has A to begin with. The dance between airlines and airports is a finicky one. While both operate nearly identical numbers of flights in and out daily, Delta operates many more regional jets that are far less capacity than Southwest's standardized 737 fleet so thats the biggest cause of the discrepancy. Of the 25ish flights departing a day, Delta has less than 5 planes with passenger capactity over 100. Those all go to or from Atlanta. Occassionally Minneapolis. Many flights are 50-80 passenger planes. (#crjStan) Of the 25ish departing flights a day, every Southwest flight has a capacity over 150. So then you're just looking at using the same number of gates for the same number of flights but having more overflow space for passenger capacity at the 6 or so very lightly used gates. And probably still having the same bathroom issues. And that's where new terminals are putting major investment in. The food courts, shops, restaurants, etc. Airports as their own destinations than a simple means from point a to b. How do we get people to enjoy the space and time and spend more money. Just as long as Columbus doesn't adopt the weird 'your gate is also a restaurant' model that Philly did. I imagine that even a new terminal will feel squeezed when all the Southwest flights at one arm are departing in close succession but you'll have the option to go to an empty Breeze gate to feel less crowded that some sort of walkway between our current concourses could have solved any number of years ago. I'm excited for a new terminal, 1000000%, but Columbus also wasn't the smartest in the last several decades on its expansion. But Columbus isn't alone in that either. A fair number of similar sized airports made the same mistakes during the same time period. So there's a lopsided balance to use and efficiency. A bursting at the seams in one area isn't representative of the airport operations and capacity as a whole. I also kind of wish they had a civilian advisory board on this. Or hopefully we see some good public input on what the people want to see out of a mid size regional airport. Edited May 18, 20223 yr by DTCL11
May 21, 20223 yr CRAA has released the minutes for May. Bullet points for the meeting are few this month, but there were a couple of takeaways * All of the renown architectural firms submitted bids but Gensler stood out due to their commitment to business diversity and use of local talent, Moody-Nolan being at the top of the list. * There will be 7 distinct phases in constructing the new terminal with each phase requiring board approval before continuing to the next. * LCK reported a softening of the cargo market due to retailers having replenished their shelves. * Passenger traffic at CMH and LCK has remained elevated which bodes well going into the summer travel * The new Escape Lounge in B concourse near gate 32 is expected to be completed this fall Edited May 22, 20223 yr by John7165
May 24, 20223 yr Columbus airport terminal project scores funding via return of Congressional earmarks Construction literally paving the way for a replacement terminal at John Glenn Columbus International Airport is among recipients of the first Congressional earmarks after a decade-long ban. The Columbus Regional Airport Authority is seeking bids for the first phase of construction to relocate a 4,500-foot taxiway to enable construction of a new passenger terminal and ensure safer aircraft movement to and from the facility. Construction of the $25 million project is expected to start next spring and take just over three years, an airport spokeswoman said. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/05/24/cmh-terminal-prep-earmark.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 22, 20222 yr It's been really quiet around these parts but the July agenda for the CRAA has been issued. Nothing earth shattering to report but traffic is steadily rebounding and is inching closer to 2019 levels. CMH is up to 50 non-stop destinations which is more than pre-covid service. Nothing to report concerning the new terminal, but Shelley and Sands will be constructing the taxiway relocation. No indication of when that work will begin or how long it will take, but it will be done in two phases to minimize impact on existing ground traffic. https://columbusairports.com/storage/production/20220722111632-craa-board-of-directors-july-26-2022-pre-read-materials.pdf
July 24, 20222 yr On 7/22/2022 at 5:59 PM, John7165 said: Shelley and Sands will be constructing the taxiway relocation. No indication of when that work will begin or how long it will take, but it will be done in two phases to minimize impact on existing ground traffic. https://columbusairports.com/storage/production/20220722111632-craa-board-of-directors-july-26-2022-pre-read-materials.pdf This was part of the Dispatch article on the congressional allocation of funds for it. "The airport wants the relocation project to start next spring and hopes to have it finished by the fall of 2026." https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2022/05/25/john-glenn-columbus-move-taxiway-make-way-new-terminal/9924304002/
October 31, 20222 yr Breeze is suspending some routes, Dec 1-14, including: CMH-Palm Beach CMH-Charleston https://simpleflying.com/breeze-airways-route-cuts/
November 11, 20222 yr On 5/18/2022 at 1:25 PM, DTCL11 said: I imagine that even a new terminal will feel squeezed when all the Southwest flights at one arm are departing in close succession but you'll have the option to go to an empty Breeze gate to feel less crowded that some sort of walkway between our current concourses could have solved any number of years ago. As an annecdote while we wait for more info on the new terminal, I'm normally a Delta flyer and have only seen the Delta Terminal at LGA but today I did a quick turn around via American through the B gates. Their brand new terminal was also bursting at the seams at the Southwest gates compared to the rest of the terminal. There was no where left to sit and people were just piled all over. I really think it's just a byproduct of their fleet and frequency of flights. Even a brand new airport which surely took in to account the capacity for now and the future felt like a crowded festival.
November 15, 20222 yr John Glenn Columbus International Airport adds a direct flight with new airline John Glenn Columbus International Airport is adding service from an 11th airline that will bring a second direct flight option to a popular summer travel destination. Sun Country Airlines (Nasdaq: SNCY) will fly out of CMH for the first time May 4 with a seasonal nonstop route to Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, according to a release. The Minneapolis-based budget carrier will run the service twice weekly through Labor Day. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/11/15/cmh-adds-second-nonstop-flight-msp.html & https://columbusunderground.com/new-airline-service-from-columbus-to-minneapolis-launching-in-2023-we1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 15, 20222 yr 6 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: John Glenn Columbus International Airport adds a direct flight with new airline John Glenn Columbus International Airport is adding service from an 11th airline that will bring a second direct flight option to a popular summer travel destination. Sun Country Airlines (Nasdaq: SNCY) will fly out of CMH for the first time May 4 with a seasonal nonstop route to Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, according to a release. The Minneapolis-based budget carrier will run the service twice weekly through Labor Day. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/11/15/cmh-adds-second-nonstop-flight-msp.html & https://columbusunderground.com/new-airline-service-from-columbus-to-minneapolis-launching-in-2023-we1/ It fascinates me the SUn Country strategy. I know they are super low cost but all things being equal, who would want to connect through Minneapolis on their trip when you could fly Frontier or Allegiant directly to your Florida destination for pretty much the same price. Its not like you get the business crowd on a twice weekly route to Minneapolis of all places. Edited November 15, 20222 yr by Brutus_buckeye
November 15, 20222 yr The way this is all strategized is not an effort to get you to Florida. This is entirely banking on twice weekly summer travelers whose final destination is MSP. It's part of an over announcement of 15 new direct MSP flights across the country. My guess is Minneapolis governments might also be helping this to boost tourism. '“We’re excited to welcome travelers from the Columbus area to the Twin Cities via this new, nonstop route,” says Grant Whitney, Chief Revenue Officer at Sun Country. “Minneapolis/St. Paul has lots of great attractions that cater to people of all ages and all interests – including Mall of America, world-class museums, lakes and parks, art galleries, incredible sports, music and entertainment venues, great restaurants, breweries and so much more.”'
November 16, 20222 yr ^it’s also mentioned in the CBF article that businesses like Huntington and M/I have ops there that expanded service can support.
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