The new building is definitely the nicest yet.  Great looking modern materials & rustic brick.  Next phase of 8 units is supposed to start in the next 30 days

Welcome to the forum, MAL! Hope you post more often. Are you new to Cleveland or just to Battery Park?

Moved from Akron in 2002.  Downtown since 2008. 

Welcome MAL, we will b neighbors, great choice. You have a great building.  Gotta plan, vintage states they will start phase 2 this upcoming week

Welcome to the neighborhood, MAL!

 

 

Info for all:

 

An ODOT Project Info Meeting is scheduled for Wed 9/11/13 at 6pm in the OLMC Gym (6928 Detroit) to discuss the West 73rd street extension. 

Welcome to Battery Park, MAL !!!

Updated photo today of the latest building going up on Battery Park.  Most expensive units built so far, north of $160/sf.    I think 6 of 8 units are sold.  Supposed to be done in April.  Not much progress in January due to the extreme cold

 

Took a couple photos yesterday of the progress in Battery Park.  The latest development of the Parkside units have sold 7 of the 8.  Supposed to start closing next month in May.  Construction also started on the last "H3" building in the vacant lot beside Reddstone.  I think 7 units total there, only 1 remains.

 

The Shoreway building, the existing 4 story brick warehouse building, is going full speed ahead.  Leasing team is taking people through, they have a model unit ready and new windows are going in.

 

Tried hosting on imageshack but apparently they no longer allow free uploading... 

 

 

Try photobucket or flickr

so the last phase of 8 Parkview townhomes are getting ready to close next week.  2 units closing next week then units closing about each week following through May.  Deck railings, exterior trim & then landscaping yet to be done in the next 2-3 weeks.  I think 1 unit still left to sell in this building.

 

The next building is under construction on the lot beside Reddstone.  I think 7 units total, 1 or 2 units still available.  Foundation & concrete slab is done, walls starting to go up already.  Not sure about completion.

 

Next planned building is going to go on the little sliver of land between 73rd & 74th, near Goodwalt.  This was not owned by the Battery Park developer, but they recently purchased it and are moving ahead with plans.  Keller Williams has renderings & square footages of the units for this lot.  Supposed to break ground some time mid to late summer depending on pre-sales.

 

After all that, I'm hearing the next planned units will be on the east side of where the volleyball courts currently are.  Currently being used as staging area for construction.  Volleyball nets are up now for the final spring session of the Hermes league.  After the spring session is done, the courts will be ripped out and a park will be permanently put in with green space, featuring the Kilbane statue.

Gottaplan, you can use imgur.com for free hosting. The gold standard, as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for the updates.

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/pdf/NW_Agenda4-23-14.pdf

 

Near West Design Review District

 

Agenda

(8:30 a.m., Wednesday, April 23rd, 2014)

Dollar Bank, 3115 West 25th

Street

 

 

 

8:30 a.m. 1. NW 2014-005: Battery Park Residential Development Courtyard

Townhomes ©

7305-7319 Gateway Court

Project Representatives – John Spear, Vintage Development Group, Inc.;

Paul Glowacki, Dimit Architects, LLC

. Proposed construction of six 3-story residential townhouse units averaging 1,600

s.f. each, within the Battery Park development.

Channel 5 news segment last night on the Shoreway Building project & other Battery Park developments

 

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsnet5.com%2Fnews%2Flocal-news%2Foh-cuyahoga%2Fshoreway-lofts-being-built-in-former-globe-machine-stamping-co-building&h=bAQGFSvih

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/pdf/NW_Agenda4-23-14.pdf

 

Near West Design Review District

 

Agenda

(8:30 a.m., Wednesday, April 23rd, 2014)

Dollar Bank, 3115 West 25th

Street

 

 

 

8:30 a.m. 1. NW 2014-005: Battery Park Residential Development Courtyard

Townhomes ©

7305-7319 Gateway Court

Project Representatives – John Spear, Vintage Development Group, Inc.;

Paul Glowacki, Dimit Architects, LLC

. Proposed construction of six 3-story residential townhouse units averaging 1,600

s.f. each, within the Battery Park development.

 

Graphics for the above project from......

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/04252016/index.php

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like what they've done here. Facing the units south towards the legacy part if the neighborhood instead of facing them to the back of the other townhomes garages. Should sell quickly

well it was really the only option with that parcel.  Curious what Vintage had to pay for it to build on it. 

well it was really the only option with that parcel.  Curious what Vintage had to pay for it to build on it. 

 

Cuyahoga County Auditor's office records show that on March 7, 2014, "BATTERY PARK DEVELOPMENT LLC" (AKA Vintage) paid $38,000 to "LAGATTUTA, JOHN A. & TAMARA A." for the 7,560-square-foot lot. They also paid a $152 conveyance fee.....

 

Just for sh*ts and giggles, I checked the same-sized property immediately south of it. Turns out that was bought for $19,000 -- in 1978! The county has (much more recently) appraised that property and house at $51,400 for tax purposes.

Some progress photos from yesterday. 

 

The H3 building has 2 floors now, 3rd floor will go up this week.  Looking to get it enclosed by middle of June & start turning units over the end of summer.  Pretty sure all units are sold

 

 

The last 8 units of the Parkside townhomes are being finished.  Some units turned over last week and rest will keep rolling through May.  Pergola canopies were set yesterday with a crane.  Landscaping is getting placed & exterior work wrapping up.  Looks fantastic in my opinion

 

Love the brick!

 

 

 

Great pics, especially the first one.

Somehow I missed the renderings above. Definitely the least inspired work yet from Dimit. I guess as their popularity grows their design dwindles, heading towards City Arch territory.

Somehow I missed the renderings above. Definitely the least inspired work yet from Dimit. I guess as their popularity grows their design dwindles, heading towards City Arch territory.

 

Dimit is still a great firm capable of great designs.  I think this is a case of designing to the budget.

Does anyone have an estimate (or better yet list) of the number of units and projects that have been added to Battery Park/Detroit-Shoreway/Gordon Square since the 2010 census?

 

Besides Downtown, most of the new residential construction in the city of Cleveland seems to be in this part of town.

 

The Shoreway Loft bldg.

Really impressed with the way this is turning out

 

 

 

 

I spoke to the leasing agent the other day.  He said only 6 units remained available.  Pretty incredible.  Friday night I think they are having some event there, Carnivale, or something including fashion show, music, etc

 

^Its tomorrow (Saturday). Hopefully we'll be there

This BZA docket item appears to be followup on this project:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=1684.msg704993#msg704993

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2014/crr07-07-2014.pdf

 

Board of Zoning Appeals

July 7, 2014

City Hall - Room 514

 

Calendar No. 14-097: 7305-7315 Gateway Court Ward 15

Matt Zone

7 Notices

Battery Park Development LLC, owner, proposes to erect a three story, six unit, 9,851 square foot

townhouse building on a 6,703 square foot lot located in a B1 Semi-Industry District. Owner appeals

for relief from the following Sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances:

1. Section 355.04 which states that in a ‘B’ Area District the gross floor area of a residential building

cannot exceed ½ of the square footage of the lot or in this case 3,352 square feet and 9,851 square

feet are proposed. For townhouse buildings, 2400 square feet of lot area is required for each

townhouse unit or in this case 14,400 square feet total lot area and 6,703 square feet is proposed.

2. Section 345.03(b) which states that in a Semi-Industry District, no dwelling unit shall be erected within

200 feet of the boundary line of a General Industry District.

3. Section 357.08 (b) (2) which requires a rear yard of at least 20 feet and 10 feet is proposed (filed May

30, 2014).

KJP- this mean the original got denied and they have the opportunity to revise the plan?

KJP- this mean the original got denied and they have the opportunity to revise the plan?

 

Or the applicant withdrew the original plan. Either way, yes, the original plan for 9.600 sq ft of townhouses was pulled/rejected and a new plan for a 9,851 sq ft building is being submitted. Interesting that the first applicant was Vintage Development Group, Inc. and the second was Battery Park Development LLC -- though I believe both are under the Marous umbrella.

^I may be missing a piece here, but the first agenda item was for design review and this most recent one is for BZA.  Both steps are necessary for this particular project (given that it doesn't confirm with zoning), so seeing both doesn't mean there's been any hitch with this project.

^I may be missing a piece here, but the first agenda item was for design review and this most recent one is for BZA.  Both steps are necessary for this particular project (given that it doesn't confirm with zoning), so seeing both doesn't mean there's been any hitch with this project.

 

True, but the designs have changed. I don't know why. I haven't followed this project closely considering it's pretty small compared to so many other projects lately.

Rail access would be perfect here.

How about a Detroit Avenue streetcar?

 

How about a Detroit Avenue streetcar?

 

 

No...no...no.  Detroit is the perfect street for subway. 

 

This is the perfect opportunity to refurbish the D-SB's lower level and run two lines very similar to Philly's market street lines, west of city hall.  One of the Shaker trains should run local from TC to the 98 CTS station, then continue as street cars on Madison.  A subway would run from TC to 98 CTS station as express, with stops only at west 25, W. 65 and the current 98 CTS station.  After 98 street, there would be stops every 8-12 blocks along Detroit.  This would replace the Madison bus, west of Berea.  The Madison bus' new terminal would be W. 98 street CTS Station.  Both the Shaker lines would return to 10 minute departure from their Eastern Terminals to make sure there is enough coverage on the Westside, if you're a patron of one of the local stations.

No...no...no.  Detroit is the perfect street for subway. 

 

I agree! This would look great on Detroit Avenue!

 

 

 

Sorry for taking us off topic. If you'd like to discuss why no new subways are likely for the foreseeable future in Cleveland and other smaller cities, chat at:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=2768.0

No...no...no.  Detroit is the perfect street for subway. 

 

I agree! This would look great on Detroit Avenue!

 

 

Back to our regularly scheduled programming!

How about a Detroit Avenue streetcar?

 

Did you do this or was it proposed?

I spoke to the leasing agent the other day.  He said only 6 units remained available.  Pretty incredible.

 

I hear this story again and again and again in the city:  new projects selling out or close to selling out before the project is even complete.  With news like that, you'd think even more construction projects would be going on.  We have some good ones, but I'd think that kind of demand would get the attention of some out of town developers.

I spoke to the leasing agent the other day.  He said only 6 units remained available.  Pretty incredible.

 

I hear this story again and again and again in the city:  new projects selling out or close to selling out before the project is even complete.  With news like that, you'd think even more construction projects would be going on.  We have some good ones, but I'd think that kind of demand would get the attention of some out of town developers.

 

Out of town developers mean nothing.  Do our developers outside of FC (or other similar sized locally based national developer) build in DC, SLC, Denver, Houston, Tampa, ATL, etc., etc.?

 

To better understand your post, why do you feel developers from outside of the region should build here?  Do you think that will ad prestige?  Do you think that the build and/or design quality will be better?  Do you think that there will be a better overall product?  Do you think they could buy and assemble parcels better and get a better ROI?  I'm in no way belittling you, just trying to greater understand your thought process.

I spoke to the leasing agent the other day.  He said only 6 units remained available.  Pretty incredible.

 

I hear this story again and again and again in the city:  new projects selling out or close to selling out before the project is even complete.  With news like that, you'd think even more construction projects would be going on.  We have some good ones, but I'd think that kind of demand would get the attention of some out of town developers.

 

It's a project-by-project basis.  In many aspects, Cleveland is still a very hard town to do development deals.  We have high labor rates for construction and relatively low rents.  And tons of legacy costs in terms of abatement etc

Out of town developers mean nothing.  Do our developers outside of FC (or other similar sized locally based national developer) build in DC, SLC, Denver, Houston, Tampa, ATL, etc., etc.?

 

To better understand your post, why do you feel developers from outside of the region should build here?  Do you think that will ad prestige?  Do you think that the build and/or design quality will be better?  Do you think that there will be a better overall product?  Do you think they could buy and assemble parcels better and get a better ROI?  I'm in no way belittling you, just trying to greater understand your thought process.

 

No, far be it from you to belittle.  Must you find a combative angle to every post made around here?  But ok, I'll bite...  To all the questions in your second paragraph, no.  My point was that I would think news of 97% occupancy and multi-unit projects selling out before a shovel is in the ground would be enough to get the attention of large developers across the country and around the world.  "Hey, we have projects going in DC, SLC, Denver, Houston, Tampa and Atlanta, but have we looked at Cleveland yet?  I hear the market's hot right now.  Let's look at putting an apartment building there."

 

Out of town developers would mean something for us:  that there's enough money to be made here building residential buildings that it's attracting more than just small to mid-sized local developers.  In the same way that it would mean something if an out of town Fortune 500 company decided to move its headquarters here.  Further proof or affirmation of our city's comeback.

Out of town developers mean nothing.  Do our developers outside of FC (or other similar sized locally based national developer) build in DC, SLC, Denver, Houston, Tampa, ATL, etc., etc.?

 

To better understand your post, why do you feel developers from outside of the region should build here?  Do you think that will ad prestige?  Do you think that the build and/or design quality will be better?  Do you think that there will be a better overall product?  Do you think they could buy and assemble parcels better and get a better ROI?  I'm in no way belittling you, just trying to greater understand your thought process.

 

No, far be it from you to belittle.  Must you find a combative angle to every post made around here?  But ok, I'll bite...  To all the questions in your second paragraph, no.  My point was that I would think news of 97% occupancy and multi-unit projects selling out before a shovel is in the ground would be enough to get the attention of large developers across the country and around the world.  "Hey, we have projects going in DC, SLC, Denver, Houston, Tampa and Atlanta, but have we looked at Cleveland yet?  I hear the market's hot right now.  Let's look at putting an apartment building there."

 

Out of town developers would mean something for us:  that there's enough money to be made here building residential buildings that it's attracting more than just small to mid-sized local developers.  In the same way that it would mean something if an out of town Fortune 500 company decided to move its headquarters here.  Further proof or affirmation of our city's comeback.

 

Just because I ask questions to better understand your post(s) in no way means I'm being combative or belittling!

 

Now if you believe what you wrote, why aren't outside developers building here?

 

 

That was my question.  Gottaplan offered some reasons.

 

It's a project-by-project basis.  In many aspects, Cleveland is still a very hard town to do development deals.  We have high labor rates for construction and relatively low rents.  And tons of legacy costs in terms of abatement etc

 

Seems like the "relatively low rents" piece is starting to shift somewhat, so hopefully that continues.

That was my question.  Gottaplan offered some reasons.

 

It's a project-by-project basis.  In many aspects, Cleveland is still a very hard town to do development deals.  We have high labor rates for construction and relatively low rents.  And tons of legacy costs in terms of abatement etc

 

Seems like the "relatively low rents" piece is starting to shift somewhat, so hopefully that continues.

 

I also think the cost or putting together the parcels is more difficult than in the 'burbs or other cities.    Someone here informed us that sometimes parcels are owned by multiple people/partnerships.

Does anyone have an estimate (or better yet list) of the number of units and projects that have been added to Battery Park/Detroit-Shoreway/Gordon Square since the 2010 census?

 

Besides Downtown, most of the new residential construction in the city of Cleveland seems to be in this part of town.

I've been trying to figure this out also and my best guess is 50 units in BP since 2010 (could be higher since they did so many phases).

 

3) Father Frascati will be "punched" through from 73rd to 70th.  The industrial building standing at father caruso between 70th and 73rd will be demolished for the road extension and the remainder of the property will be developed by Vintage.

 

 

Whoa, wait!  That "remainder of the property" is pretty big.  Any idea of what Vintage is proposing?

 

Wow, it is big. This is the area that Vintage would develop. I've added an extended Father Frascati Drive to the map.

 

 

That's a great map but not all that area is going to be able to be developed.  Keep in mind how much 73rd is going to drop down for this road to go under the tracks.  It will be a steep retaining wall on the west side I believe and more of a tapered slope on the east side of the trench.  At least that's how it was drawn in the last rendering I saw.  That parcel is going to be hard to develop though.  Vintage cannot build on top of the relocated sewer trench which now bisects that parcel and they need car access which can only come in from the new street, extension of Frascati...

 

BTW, this discussion from the Shoreway thread (in the transportation section) of Vintage expanding into the block between West 70th and West 73rd is worth mentioning here. Especially with West 73rd being punched through to the Shoreway -- the top of the hill 73rd will come up to from the Shoreway will be the entry to Battery Park and the surrounding developments. Is that industry really what Vintage at all wants as their entry??

Does anyone have an estimate (or better yet list) of the number of units and projects that have been added to Battery Park/Detroit-Shoreway/Gordon Square since the 2010 census?

 

Besides Downtown, most of the new residential construction in the city of Cleveland seems to be in this part of town.

I've been trying to figure this out also and my best guess is 50 units in BP since 2010 (could be higher since they did so many phases).

 

There's just over 100 units sold & occupied now in BP, including townhomes & the single family free-standing homes.  Add in the newest building being built beside Reddstone is another 7 or 8 units.  Probably about 150+ residents

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/08/01/battery-park-wine-bar-to-close-cha-spirits-and-pizza-kitchen-to-take-its-place

 

  Battery Park Wine Bar to Close. CHA Spirits & Pizza Kitchen to Take its Place

 

Susan Walters is getting back in the restaurant business. The pioneering restaurant owner and consultant behind such concepts as KeKa and SubStance will take possession of the Battery Park Wine Bar next week. The four-year-old Detroit Shoreway wine bar will close after service this coming Sunday.

 

Following a one-week closure, the wine bar will reopen on August 12 in an interim state — hosting guest chef events, pop-ups dinners, sneak previews — through Labor Day, at which point it will close for two weeks and reopen as CHA Spirits & Pizza Kitchen. 

 

 

More stuff for the underpass......

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/08012014/index.php

 

City Planning Commission

Agenda for August 15, 2014

 

Resolution No. 837-14(Ward 15/Councilmember Zone): Declaring the intent to vacate a portion of Father Caruso Drive N.W., West 73rd Street, and West 74th Street.