July 7, 200618 yr Wow - that's great...I guess they've definitively crossed the minimum-number-of-contracts threshold...
July 13, 200618 yr Does anyone have a close-up photo of the right side of that project board? I'd like to see which firms are involved in this project -- which architect is responsible for this rather unimaginative design.
July 13, 200618 yr If you read back through this thread, all that info's posted with history and everything. The main developer is Joshua One, who are also doing WatersEdge in Bellevue: http://www.joshuaone.com/
July 13, 200618 yr Well, actually not. I know the developer is Joshua One, and they're responsible for Water's Edge in Bellevue too. I'm less interested in the marketing and financial muscle behind this, and would instead like to know who the design firms are, something I've not found anywhere. I bet it's on the right side of the project board. Unfortunately, looking at the renderings, I have a suspicion that it is being done in house or by a architectural graphics firm, like the Villaggio project in Downtown Indianapolis. If you read back through this thread, all that info's posted with history and everything. The main developer is Joshua One, who are also doing WatersEdge in Bellevue: http://www.joshuaone.com/
July 13, 200618 yr Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I don't see anything on either their website or http://www.theoverlookatedenpark.com that gives that detail. I'll try to remember to get a shot of it tonight for you.
July 14, 200618 yr Didn't get a picture last night, but I looked at it, and the text on the right side is just a listing of the selling points - like: Security: 24 hour keyless entry Smoke detectors/sprinklers DeathBot Patrol Amenities: Spacious Views Breathtaking Closets ...that kind of thing. No companies listed except Joshua One and Sibsy Cline, the current realtor. But if you emailed Joshua One with whatever specific questions you had, I bet you'd get a reply. My neighbor had called the realtor at one point, and got a call back a day or two later from the president of Joshua One - they're quite responsive...
August 4, 200618 yr So they've got a really big hole now - and that hole's got a ton of water in it: This was taken yesterday afternoon, before the big storm came through. It looked more full this morning when I went past...anyone know if this is a normal thing, or if this is a problem?
August 12, 200618 yr Another shot, this time from the Lunkenheimer Mansion front lot: This hasn't been dry for a long time now...
August 19, 200618 yr i drove by yesterday and noticed the water had been finally pumped out but it didnt seem like there was any further progress on the excavation
August 19, 200618 yr Hmm...I don't know that they're actually pumping it out - I thought I saw them putting stone or something back in, but maybe I missed that. And I don't know where they pumped it to - they didn't pump it into the street, and I would imagine they'd have hauled it away...though maybe that's what they did...
August 19, 200618 yr ^ i dont know...i just saw an empty pit where i previously saw one filled with water.
September 6, 200618 yr We have reached a turning point - for the first time, yesterday morning, instead of seeing them only moving stuff out of the hole, I finally saw what appeared to be stuff they'd starting putting into the hole! Then on the way back from our walk, you could tell there was stuff a-plenty in there - form-making stuff, I'm guessing, and rebar, and whatnot-all-else. I need to get a picture after hours at some point here! But hey, happy yay! Actual constructing of stuff seems to have begun!
September 7, 200618 yr Coming back from the morning walk, we saw a cement truck pulling up to the site! Just one truck, so I don't know if that's pouring the foundation or prepping the foundation or just pouring a pad for other gear or something else entirely - but still, we have cement inbound!
September 7, 200618 yr Coming back from the morning walk, we saw a cement truck pulling up to the site! Just one truck, so I don't know if that's pouring the foundation or prepping the foundation or just pouring a pad for other gear or something else entirely - but still, we have cement inbound! If it was only one truck of concrete, and you just saw rebar and forms yesterday, it probably isn't foundation work. My guess is that there is some exposed shale in the pit which is therefore potentially expansive when water is introduced to it causing a heaving problem. Therefore, the bring a load of concrete in to pour what they call a "mudd matt" to seal the shale off from water and even air. Upon completing that, they would set a large matt or rebar tied and pour the mass or "matt" foundation for the structure.
September 7, 200618 yr ^Thanks for the insight. So how will I know when they're pouring the foundation? Will there be a line of cement trucks lined up around the block?
September 7, 200618 yr ^Thanks for the insight. So how will I know when they're pouring the foundation? Will there be a line of cement trucks lined up around the block? Well, they shouldn't be around the block because the last one would have alot of jack-hammering to do to get the hardened concrete out of it. But you should notice a steady stream of trucks coming in for about 10 hours straight. This building looks as though it will have a matt foundation. The matt will take about 2 weeks to a month to tie. The amount of concrete for a matt of this size is probably in the neighborhood of 1000 cubic yards. One truck holds 10 yards...legally so therefore 100 trucks to dump.
September 7, 200618 yr And that all has to be dumped in at once? Like, they don't do a layer and then the next day another layer or something...
September 7, 200618 yr And that all has to be dumped in at once? Like, they don't do a layer and then the next day another layer or something... No. When doing that, you create what is called a "cold joint". Pouring wet concrete atop hardened concrete creates a void between the two surfaces which could lead to water infiltration and cracking. It needs to be one mass. If you want to do that, you would have to dowell into the hardened concrete with rebar in hundreds of locations, then pour the wet concrete on top of that. This way, you have a joined mass. Yes, this pour will take a while to do, but there is no fancy finishing. It's just a foundation. A long pour like this is called a monolithic pour.
September 28, 200618 yr I know the people who live immediately next to the construction site and they say the developer has been really nice to them. They are landscaping their entire yard gratis becaase they have to deal with the construction and everyone will see their yard from the new building.
October 20, 200618 yr So they've had some concrete walls where you can see the outline of the elevator shaft and what I've heard is the chimney system for the fireplaces, and more rebar sticking out of the walls...sorry, haven't gotten any pictures yet, but I'll try to take some soon. Anyway, this morning there were construction folk parked all up and down Luray, one cement truck down in the pit, another staged to back down in there, then two lined up and waiting...so, I'm guessing this is the foundation pour?
October 20, 200618 yr Actually, it sounds as though the foundation is already in if the stair tower shafts are rising. Possibly done at night while you were sleeping to cut back on traffic snarls. Typically that is when we do them.
October 27, 200618 yr They started eating away the stone wall in front of the property today...got home too late for a picture, but I'll try in the morning...basically, they ate probably a quarter to a third of the way through the wall in this old picture (from left to right):
January 7, 200718 yr I just saw the building is above ground. It's mainly just concrete but there is some steel work too.
January 16, 200718 yr Here are a couple of pics of what edale was talking about. These are from January 3.
January 16, 200718 yr yeah the steel is now up a story or two in the core...still no tower crane. i cant imagine they can work in those tight quarters for 14 floors without a tower crane
January 18, 200718 yr Grasscat actually posted some views upthread a ways...they did one of those crane-camera things, I guess: http://www.theoverlookatedenpark.com/views.htm Here's the 13th floor: ...yes, pardon me while I drool...
January 18, 200718 yr i sure hope something is going to be built up or back filled around those concrete walls...yikes!
January 18, 200718 yr That blue colored spray-on stuff on the concrete is likely waterproof coating, so it will probably be underground to that level.
January 30, 200718 yr Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a crane! Pictures from this morning: ...man, these guys must have ended up with a pretty kick-ass view in fairly short order...unfortunately, I had to go to work, couldn't keep watching...
February 1, 200718 yr Sorry, no pictures, but the on-site crane is fully erected, and this morning they're taking the mobile assembling crane away - we and our neighbors were awakened at 7am by the sound of flatbed after flatbed jake-braking outside our homes...at least it's not like the excavation, which happened in warm weather with the windows open...gah. Anyway, we have a crane! I can't wait to go around the city and see where all you can see the crane from, and see where precisely the Overlook is going to poke skyward!
February 2, 200718 yr It's good to see another crane around town - I noticed it coming down 471 to downtown.
March 18, 200718 yr Sorry, don't feel like reviewing the thread. How many stories is this supposed to be?
March 18, 200718 yr ^ Jeebus, you could have just gone to the very first post! ;) The answer is 14. The project website only shows views for 13. I don't know if they were excluding the penthouse units.
April 1, 200718 yr More courses of steel - looks like the vertical shafts are up to 6 stories, with three stories of floor slabs laid. You really start to get the feel for the size the structure will be. I ran into Paul with Joshua One yesterday - he was there trying to do a little clean-up on the site...I asked if they were still looking at August to be finished, and he seemed to think that was a bit optimistic at this point. He said they got great feedback on the floorplans at their Bellevue project, that this was why they kept the same basic plans for this place - and that it makes selling these units easier now that that building is pretty much complete - they can take interested buyers through real units. He asked a lot about the neighborhood, and I'm nothing if not a homer when it comes to Walnut Hills, so he got an earful of positives... He was very nice, took a good ten or fifteen minutes of his time just to shoot the breeze with me and answer all my questions, which was really great... Oh, and one last item - they are trying to retain as much of that stone wall along Luray as possible. The city wants it to stay, and they'd like it to as well - the question is tying it in with everything, and repairing it where it's weak...hopefully it'll work out...
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