March 1, 20214 yr 55 minutes ago, marty15 said: It was originally planned as being mostly white. Apparently no one liked that either. There are literally millions of colors between white and black.....too bad there was simply no imagination here.
March 1, 20214 yr Its too bad, because the design could have been nice if you could see any of the detail. It just a dark blob. Looks like they still need to put the final material over the weather wrap. Hopefully it's not black like the rest of it. Edited March 1, 20214 yr by Mendo
March 1, 20214 yr I’m just happy to see construction throughout this neighborhood. Growing up this neighborhood was dangerous and nobody wanted to live here.
March 1, 20214 yr 18 minutes ago, gg707 said: Does anyone know what happened with 1415 Kenilworth at the BZA meeting today? Postponed to April 19th because appellants have not been able to complete the requested parking study yet.
March 5, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, cfdwarrior said: Where is the "Lincoln" located? 2275 Scranton Rd. Tremont
March 5, 20214 yr Corner of Scranton and Willey. Adjacent to Fairmont creamery, Wagner awning and tappan building
March 5, 20214 yr All four of those corners (Scranton and Willey/Kenilworth have something cooking development/redevelopment-wise. I hope many of you got your photos last year (or longer ago) for some cool then-and-now comparisons in a couple of years. This is September 2019.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 9, 20214 yr Grosvenor Place Apartments (Sun. 3-7-21) Gallery 7 Townhomes 5th and Jefferson Electric Gardens Towpath Stage 4 Eleven Scranton 2341 Scranton Road Renovation The Lincoln Cleveland APL Renovation and Expansion
March 9, 20214 yr Those all really look great, especially Grosvenor Place. Looks like some quality construction. All the power lines in that first pic kill me though. What is this, Little Italy??
March 10, 20214 yr Great picture tour! So many cool cribs being built around town - I’d like to have one on the Towpath!
March 10, 20214 yr Hopefully this does well, helps to further fill in open lots, and brings more people to the area: https://www.thelandcle.org/stories/ohio-city-and-tremont-respond-to-calls-for-more-affordable-housing Seems like a good way to preserve affordable housing in both neighborhoods. I like that the solution is to build more housing, using different terms to reach affordability, rather than just stopping new development, which is often the knee jerk reaction of people in the area whenever something new is proposed now.
March 13, 20214 yr The plans for Clark Field in Tremont look really nice: When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
March 13, 20214 yr This post contains some visualizations of the splash/play areas. Not sure if they are representative of any actual plans or not, but they are still interesting.
March 14, 20214 yr Wish there was more wooded area and basketball courts and am a little worried about the city's ability to maintain the park, bit it looks like itll be nice.
March 15, 20214 yr This is an improvement and a unique place, I hope it ends up being more than another vacuous park. Cleveland Plays used to have several hundred young professionals utilizing the park and supporting the Tremont bars on Saturday mornings before this renovation started (I'm sure there are opinions about that), but it certainly had a positive financial impact on the neighborhood and introduced people to City living that may not have otherwise interacted with it on a regular basis.
March 15, 20214 yr I participate in CLE plays, and the plan is to move those functions back to this park once completed. Currently, we play at Gordon Park on the East side
March 28, 20214 yr the project on west 14th in Tremont is moving right along. I would say this would be an example of (regardless of density or parking) design malpractice. I worry it is what happens when we just give up on design as this sort of subjective thing that we shouldn't comment on or try to regulate. It isn't like a color issue or a one element thing -- this is just so cheap and bland and should not be what is acceptable these days. This isn't a developer who took a chance on something different where there may be varying views -- this is just cheap and lazy. and if the project had no parking or lots of parking or even came with an electric bus for folks to use -- it still would be a bummer. Is the new bar?
March 28, 20214 yr You'll get no argument from me about the quality of this development. But did it not go through the same design review process as anything else in Tremont? It doesn't speak highly to the results of that process.
March 28, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, X said: You'll get no argument from me about the quality of this development. But did it not go through the same design review process as anything else in Tremont? It doesn't speak highly to the results of that process. The original design was pretty bad so the process definitely worked in that regard. Where I'm gonna respectfully disagree is that I think this is a rather nice design, far better than some of the other proposals we've seen like Fulton House (speaking in regards to facade specifically). But I know that arguing here isn't gonna accomplish anything.
March 28, 20214 yr The overall form is a pretty standard Cleveland apartment from an earlier era (the two-story 4 apartment building), so I'm glad that this kind of housing is starting to crop up again, but no defense from me either on the actual exterior design. Kind of looks like apartment housing near a large university. They would have been much better doing a brick facade over the whole thing.
March 28, 20214 yr The wouldn’t expect any thing better from Rick Maron (developer of this project W14th project). For some reason he’s jumped back into developing small scale projects around the City. The results on the east side have been equally awful, and honestly I think he should be embarrassed to have his name associated with this dreck. And Tykaps, while I am associated with the Fulton House project and may not be the most objective commentator, you’re way off base comparing FH to the W14th development. I can tell you without question that FH was designed with nothing but care and an interest of thoughtfully adding to the eclectic nature of Ohio City. The W14th project is simply a money grab through cheap construction by an over the hill developer. The fact you can’t tell the difference is surprising.
March 28, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, gg707 said: The overall form is a pretty standard Cleveland apartment from an earlier era (the two-story 4 apartment building), so I'm glad that this kind of housing is starting to crop up again, but no defense from me either on the actual exterior design. Kind of looks like apartment housing near a large university. They would have been much better doing a brick facade over the whole thing. I wholeheartedly agree with this, and hope that we get a renaissance of small scale apartment style housing (whether it be for rent or condo) from smaller local developers.
March 28, 20214 yr 29 minutes ago, w28th said: The wouldn’t expect any thing better from Rick Maron (developer of this project W14th project). For some reason he’s jumped back into developing small scale projects around the City. The results on the east side have been equally awful, and honestly I think he should be embarrassed to have his name associated with this dreck. And Tykaps, while I am associated with the Fulton House project and may not be the most objective commentator, you’re way off base comparing FH to the W14th development. I can tell you without question that FH was designed with nothing but care and an interest of thoughtfully adding to the eclectic nature of Ohio City. The W14th project is simply a money grab through cheap construction by an over the hill developer. The fact you can’t tell the difference is surprising. At one point MRN did great things with the reuse of historic buildings and thoughtful new construction like Uptown. I don't know why they're putting this out now.
March 28, 20214 yr Because it's not MRN anymore. It's just Rick Maron, sometimes with a partner like Russ Berusch. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 28, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, w28th said: The wouldn’t expect any thing better from Rick Maron (developer of this project W14th project). For some reason he’s jumped back into developing small scale projects around the City. The results on the east side have been equally awful, and honestly I think he should be embarrassed to have his name associated with this dreck. And Tykaps, while I am associated with the Fulton House project and may not be the most objective commentator, you’re way off base comparing FH to the W14th development. I can tell you without question that FH was designed with nothing but care and an interest of thoughtfully adding to the eclectic nature of Ohio City. The W14th project is simply a money grab through cheap construction by an over the hill developer. The fact you can’t tell the difference is surprising. I completely agree with regards to the intent of the developer and the overall projects positive ambitions. The developers intentions showed obvious care and interest in the best for Ohio City, especially compared to Maron's recent works. My critique is solely in regards to the facade of which FH's simplicity and modernism is out of place. The incorporation of pattern and ornament goes a long way and I believe would have made the the project more popular among residents. I also believe its incorporation in the W 14th project is what made it much more palatable to residents. Ultimately, I think our disagreement just comes down to our subjective opinions on facade.
March 28, 20214 yr Although not the best design I would have been much more happier with this design where his Ashbury iteration stands. This design is pretty basic but I don't think it will age poorly.Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
March 29, 20214 yr I'm not thrilled with the design of 14th apartments, but I applaud the added density! 4 units on a single 1/8 acre plot is fantastic and a much better use of the land than a grass lot. I'd be happy if we built many more of these around the city.
March 29, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, dastler said: I'm not thrilled with the design of 14th apartments, but I applaud the added density! 4 units on a single 1/8 acre plot is fantastic and a much better use of the land than a grass lot. I'd be happy if we built many more of these around the city. To me, in addition to being just about the laziest design of the year, the W14th project is too SMALL in scale relative to its surroundings (cars speeding down a wide portion of W14th, the freeway, Grace Hospital across the street.
April 6, 20214 yr TUESDAY, APRIL 6, 2021 Knez Homes wins large undeveloped Tremont property In Cleveland's built-up, booming near-West Side neighborhoods of Tremont and Ohio City, it's not often that a clean, undeveloped piece of land as big as 3.55 acres becomes available for development. But that's what just happened in the Lincoln Heights section of Tremont. And Knez Homes, one of Greater Cleveland's largest housing developers, won that big prize. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/04/knez-homes-wins-large-undeveloped.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 6, 20214 yr Additional housing in that area will really help to turn Scranton into a more walkable commercial corridor. I think it is hard for any businesses that depend upon foot traffic to stay open there. This should also help with the transformation of Willey Ave from weird country wasteland road in the middle of a city to a city road with stuff on it. The fact that there are large development sites like this still sitting vacant in the middle of popular areas really goes a long way to explaining why businesses in Cleveland have such trouble staying open.
April 6, 20214 yr It's my understanding that parcel 004-06-087, a Cleveland Landbank parcel, is not part of the deal (it's part of another). It's mislabelled as an APL property on the auditor's site.
April 6, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, w28th said: It's my understanding that parcel 004-06-087, a Cleveland Landbank parcel, is not part of the deal (it's part of another). It's mislabelled as an APL property on the auditor's site. I learned today, in regards to another project that I think we're both aware of, that it's mislabeled as well. But it was not shown in my lead map as part of the land Knez is acquiring. That map is based on a proposed plat map. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 6, 20214 yr This is really exciting! Between this and what Mavrick is doing...good things on the horizon for this area.
April 11, 20214 yr SUNDAY, APRIL 11, 2021 Temperatures rising? So is Cleveland With the arrival of spring and warmer weather, it's time for planting. And several long-planned projects are about to rise up out of the ground. In other news.... Demolition is due to get underway as early as April 19 to clear land at 2461 W. 25th St. for TREO -- yet another local effort led by a Chicago-based developer. The 170-unit apartment building is the creation of Mavrek Development joined by Schiff Capital Group of Columbus. The general contractor is The Kreuger Group of Cleveland. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/04/temperatures-rising-so-is-cleveland.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 11, 20214 yr Even with the split grade making it easier, its awesome to see underground parking. Seems like we've been seeing that with alot of these midsized projects lately. What a great change in pace.
April 14, 20214 yr To follow up on my article above, which included an update on TREO (ie: demo/site work starts Monday): "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 17, 20214 yr 1415 Kenilworth is back on the BOZA agenda for Monday. I'm not optimistic about the odds of this one given all of the community pushback to the lack of parking.
April 17, 20214 yr 1415 Kenilworth is back on the BOZA agenda for Monday. I'm not optimistic about the odds of this one given all of the community pushback to the lack of parking.What project is this again? Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
April 17, 20214 yr It would go on the empty lot at the corner of Kenilworth and W14th next to the Byzantine church. The developer was going to knock down the rectory, I think, but was denied by landmarks, so they came back with a smaller footprint with no parking. However, that needs a zoning variance, which has been met with significant pushback. I don't know if this is the most recent image or not, but it was posted before:
April 17, 20214 yr As amazing as it'd be to have developments in cleveland be centered around no parking this is a terrible idea. The 81 is an awful bus to rely on as it shows once an hour I believe and during the winter it'd be hell trying to expect that many people to get around. Maybe if cleveland had a stronger and robust transit system it could work but we just don't have the infrastructure to support a no parking development.
April 17, 20214 yr 6 hours ago, gg707 said: It would go on the empty lot at the corner of Kenilworth and W14th next to the Byzantine church. The developer was going to knock down the rectory, I think, but was denied by landmarks, so they came back with a smaller footprint with no parking. However, that needs a zoning variance, which has been met with significant pushback. I don't know if this is the most recent image or not, but it was posted before: I love this building. What is so sad is it seems that the more popular Cleveland gets the more NIMBY's are starting to come out. We are starting to finally get quality design for infill lots in our neighborhoods and our city is allowing NIMBY's to dictate their future. If they don't like it then move, other people will replace you.
April 17, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said: I love this building. What is so sad is it seems that the more popular Cleveland gets the more NIMBY's are starting to come out. We are starting to finally get quality design for infill lots in our neighborhoods and our city is allowing NIMBY's to dictate their future. If they don't like it then move, other people will replace you. You sure about that? The city hasn’t been losing population for decades or anything like that.
April 17, 20214 yr 7 hours ago, FutureboyWonder said: As amazing as it'd be to have developments in cleveland be centered around no parking this is a terrible idea. The 81 is an awful bus to rely on as it shows once an hour I believe and during the winter it'd be hell trying to expect that many people to get around. Maybe if cleveland had a stronger and robust transit system it could work but we just don't have the infrastructure to support a no parking development. I agree with you around the consistency of that bus line, although public transportation is a bit of a chicken and egg thing. If there are more people living in neighborhoods that aren't meeting all their needs by car, it is more likely service will be increased.
April 17, 20214 yr 7 hours ago, FutureboyWonder said: As amazing as it'd be to have developments in cleveland be centered around no parking this is a terrible idea. The 81 is an awful bus to rely on as it shows once an hour I believe and during the winter it'd be hell trying to expect that many people to get around. Maybe if cleveland had a stronger and robust transit system it could work but we just don't have the infrastructure to support a no parking development. There is no on-site parking for cars. The development includes bicycle parking inside. Not everyone owns or wants to own a car. The developers also have control of off-site parking spaces. There's the option for car owners: you can live here, park your car off site and walk or don't live there. There are other options in the area for people who are more car dependent. I'm sure the developers feel they can fill the units with people that don't own a car or are willing to pay extra for a dedicated spot off-site or they wouldn't be moving forward.
April 17, 20214 yr 6 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said: I love this building. What is so sad is it seems that the more popular Cleveland gets the more NIMBY's are starting to come out. We are starting to finally get quality design for infill lots in our neighborhoods and our city is allowing NIMBY's to dictate their future. If they don't like it then move, other people will replace you. One of the best ways to counteract that is for pro-walkable development people to start speaking up in favor of buildings so that there are at least a few voices on the other side that the various review committees are hearing. The address for BOZA is: [email protected]. The city code is very outdated on parking. Although it reduces parking requirements in urban overlay areas, it still requires a significant amount of parking for buildings. Much more than is generally accepted as conducive to good walkable neighborhoods. There are also much more creative ways to address the parking issue. For example, we could require developers to include units affordable to different income levels or provide subsidies to RTA in exchange for removing parking. I also think that reducing the number of committees that have broad discretion over approval or denial of developments would help to limit NIMBYism. People should have their voices heard, but all of the difficult to predict committees make developers less inclined to invest capital in the city.
April 17, 20214 yr 30 minutes ago, JB said: You sure about that? The city hasn’t been losing population for decades or anything like that. These hot neighborhoods that are seeing development are fill up quickly which is why we see other development follow. No developer is going to invest in a neighborhood they don't see growth or potential in. So yes I'm sure.
April 17, 20214 yr 46 minutes ago, gg707 said: One of the best ways to counteract that is for pro-walkable development people to start speaking up in favor of buildings so that there are at least a few voices on the other side that the various review committees are hearing. The address for BOZA is: [email protected]. The city code is very outdated on parking. Although it reduces parking requirements in urban overlay areas, it still requires a significant amount of parking for buildings. Much more than is generally accepted as conducive to good walkable neighborhoods. There are also much more creative ways to address the parking issue. For example, we could require developers to include units affordable to different income levels or provide subsidies to RTA in exchange for removing parking. Interesting article which addresses the same concerns in Buffalo. https://medium.com/sidewalk-talk/buffalo-ended-parking-requirements-what-did-developers-do-next-bc97bbc29767
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