May 20, 20223 yr 25 minutes ago, StapHanger said: ^The other corner of the site is still really important ! This sort of deck would make that stretch of the towpath trail much drearier, I reckon. The building bulk is fine but shoving the deck over the public ROW at the expense of the public realm is extremely lousy, IMHO. Geis is trying to have its cake and eat it too at this site. This is my primary concern as well. However after giving it more thought, I'm now think this could be an improvement--if done well. It will come down to the little things, lighting, landscaping, benches, making good use of the light/shade, inviting and interesting lower level retail, etc. A possibility isn't a certainty, but I'm willing to give the developer a chance.
May 20, 20223 yr There's plenty of space from the towpath plaza section so that it won't feel imposing, you can see it in this photo sphere from google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4851453,-81.6903762,3a,90y,187.65h,97.03t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipNWeesB1RuQELbeFekZDvXN6G0y7YVnfsH8GS8N!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNWeesB1RuQELbeFekZDvXN6G0y7YVnfsH8GS8N%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya54.463455-ro-0-fo100!7i8704!8i4352 It does seem like there isn't quite enough space on the north end for what the headline image shows though... Unless they take over one lane of Sokowlowski way (to make it one way) there doesn't appear to be enough room for the stairs.one lane of
May 20, 20223 yr Assuming the entrance to the parking is off of W13th, is there any reason to maintain Sokolowski as a vehicle right of way? This would be a fantastic little area to close off to cars! String up some lights similar to E4 and this could be a hip little area!
May 20, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, Ethan said: Assuming the entrance to the parking is off of W13th, is there any reason to maintain Sokolowski as a vehicle right of way? This would be a fantastic little area to close off to cars! String up some lights similar to E4 and this could be a hip little area! Ken's article says that the street level parking (underneath the main pedestal) is accessed from Abbey across from W12th... this would be roughly the same spot as Sokolowski's existing on site parking. There's a second level below grade that is proposed to be accessed from those roads. I don't see any curb cuts in the rendering though. Ideally I think you'd make both levels accessible from Abbey though and remove all vehicles like you propose.
May 23, 20223 yr Love the first-floor glass! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 24, 20223 yr I am not sure if this has been posted yet but this is the latest infill from Sustainable across from the Fairmont Creamery. 20 townhomes already under way.
May 30, 20223 yr On 5/23/2022 at 2:05 PM, GISguy said: Not as great of a pic, but here it is from Wiley facing east towards W 14th. Meant to snap a picture of Treo too, oops! Edited May 30, 20223 yr by infrafreak
June 8, 20223 yr On 4/26/2022 at 6:12 PM, Htsguy said: @KJP Any "Pearl" updates? I imagine if you did have some news you would have reported it in this new article. I am concerned that we really have not heard much about it lately. I would have thought it would have been before Design Review by now. Here ya go @Htsguy The Pearl gets a major redesign By Ken Prendergast / June 7, 2022 Major design revisions to a large mixed-use building planned for West 25th Street at Columbus Road at the south end of Tremont’s Duck Island’s neighborhood have won the project praise and support from civic groups, especially for redesigning an intersection in front the proposed building. On June 7, the Duck Island Block Club voted in support the proposed redesign. Then on June 8, the plans won unanimous support from Cleveland’s Near West Design Review Committee. Next stop is the City Planning Commission. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/06/07/the-pearl-gets-major-redesign/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 8, 20223 yr Here ya go [mention=429]Htsguy[/mention] The Pearl gets a major redesign By Ken Prendergast / June 7, 2022 The developer of a large mixed-use building planned for West 25th Street at Columbus Road at the south end of Tremont’s Duck Island’s neighborhood changed the project’s design and added phasing to reflect changing realities. Redesign of The Pearl is getting presented to various groups for reviews and suggestions. Today it was the Duck Island Block Club. Tomorrow, the plans will be presented to Cleveland’s Near West Design Review Committee and, later, to the City Planning Commission. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/06/07/the-pearl-gets-major-redesign/Jesus Christ, major redesign is right.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
June 8, 20223 yr I sat on this story for four hours waiting to hear about any feedback from the Duck Island Block Club presentation. Perhaps things didn't go well? Everyone has gone radio-silent... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 8, 20223 yr I really like this redesign. I'll take taller with a smaller horizontal footprint every time. And the reworking of the intersection is great. It should cut down on the "Columbus Speedway" feeling.
June 8, 20223 yr Do you think the combination of this design and Intro ups the ante for near west side design where just so-so designs become harder to justify? At this point it seems like Pearl and Intro will be in a league of their own.
June 8, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, LlamaLawyer said: Do you think the combination of this design and Intro ups the ante for near west side design where just so-so designs become harder to justify? At this point it seems like Pearl and Intro will be in a league of their own. Probably. The speed at which Intro leased out and at those high price points is going to change this corridor into a very dense, mixed stretch of road. But it's a brutal stretch of road for peds and bikes. Hopefully the RTA 25Connects project will make this streetscape more appealing. BTW, the block liked the project but loved the intersection redesign. And Near West Design Review just approved the schematic design unanimously. I'm updating the article. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 8, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, KJP said: Probably. The speed at which Intro leased out and at those high price points is going to change this corridor into a very dense, mixed stretch of road. But it's a brutal stretch of road for peds and bikes. Hopefully the RTA 25Connects project will make this streetscape more appealing. BTW, the block liked the project but loved the intersection redesign. And Near West Design Review just approved the schematic design unanimously. I'm updating the article. Yeah, there’s simply no reason for W.25th to be 4 lanes wide from 90 to essentially Lorain. And those bridges need a drastic makeover. Even if it’s just more attractive fencing. Incredibly unwelcoming walking stretch of sidewalk.
June 8, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, marty15 said: Yeah, there’s simply no reason for W.25th to be 4 lanes wide from 90 to essentially Lorain. And those bridges need a drastic makeover. Even if it’s just more attractive fencing. Incredibly unwelcoming walking stretch of sidewalk. I wonder if things like that will be incorporated into the RTA W. 25th St. project
June 8, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Htsguy said: I wonder if things like that will be incorporated into the RTA W. 25th St. project Yes. I just updated the article with that information. Lots of new info and quotes in the updated article. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 8, 20223 yr Another positive development that’ll help this and other area projects get out of the ground. Lumber prices have dropped dramatically in the past few months. Will definitely help some in offsetting interest rates.
June 9, 20223 yr Great article by @KJPwith really cool updates and renderings. The Pearl is one smart and sexy project. It should be really transformative to the area, which is becoming increasingly urban and interesting. This building should really shine at night, too. Gonna be exciting watching this one come to fruition.
June 13, 20223 yr I can't stop going to Taps & Tails, so here's the 6/11/2022 version from Scranton Rd facing South
June 13, 20223 yr When I saw that greenery dangling from the planter boxes for the first time this week I was stunned. At every single design review, planning meeting and zoning meeting, we should be saying "Josh Rosen seems to be able to use better materials and make a profit, why should we allow you to do less?" Thanks for setting the bar Josh. It's up to us to follow your standards and not just cheer every little infill no matter how disposable the build...
June 13, 20223 yr that is very kind. Thank you. I have great colleagues and fantastic architects who push us -- they deserve a great deal of the credit.
June 13, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, misterjoshr said: the planter boxes are really taking hold I love those!
June 13, 20223 yr Josh, I walked all around there on Saturday. Job well done!!! You and your partners really do "up the game" for everyone else. And the trellis work you have set up in the back corner...that will look spectacular once the vegetation starts to grow!!
June 16, 20222 yr Scranton Ave Carriage Works - 2341 Scranton (6-15-22) The Lincoln Surveyors at Sokolowski's CPL Jefferson Branch renovations Holy Ghost Byzantine Catholic Church renovation into The Elliot, opening this July - Here is a recent article on the renovation from Fresh Water Cleveland Infill on West 10th Tremont Ave Fruit and West 9th Auburn and West 11th Scranton I-90 overpass progress Canopy up for the gas station at Clark and West 14th
June 16, 20222 yr That canopy at the gas station has been up for about 6 months....They seem to have stopped construction?
June 20, 20222 yr Is this project stalled on w14th and clark? The first urban form gas station in Cleveland and while it wasn't really asked for here itd be nice to see this design get built. It's been stalled exactly like this for.. Good God i want to say a year
June 23, 20222 yr Cleveland, Lakewood rehabs corner historic credits By Ken Prendergast / June 22, 2022 Yet another school property to be revived with the assistance of historic tax credits is St. Michael School, 3146 Scranton Rd., Cleveland. CHN Housing Partners of Cleveland plans to renovate the elaborate Victorian Gothic-styled building into 34 affordable senior apartments. Another dozen housing units are planned for the adjacent convent building on Prame Avenue. The $13,859,632 project was aided today by the award of $1,360,000 in tax credits. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/06/22/cleveland-lakewood-rehabs-corner-historic-credits/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 23, 20222 yr St. Michael’s school is one of the most beautiful buildings in the state IMO. Especially once it gets period appropriate windows back in her.
June 24, 20222 yr The Geis project at West 20th and Molke Court went back to the planning commission last Friday with updated renders. Arguably better then the first iteration. Starting page 97. https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/designreview/drcagenda/2022/PDF/CPC-presentation-06-17-2022.pdf Previous revision:
June 24, 20222 yr It is what it is. I compare it to scores of apartment buildings built in the suburbs during the 60s, 70s and 80s that you drive by and really don't notice. They are just there. At least it meets a need and adds density to the area.
July 13, 20222 yr On 6/20/2022 at 9:14 AM, FutureboyWonder said: Is this project stalled on w14th and clark? The first urban form gas station in Cleveland and while it wasn't really asked for here itd be nice to see this design get built. It's been stalled exactly like this for.. Good God i want to say a year Was about to post my own pic of this. Maybe having three gas stations on one corner wasn't the greatest idea. Still hope it gets built out, the renderings were real attractive (for a gas station at least haha).
July 24, 20222 yr Its an insane idea but given it's location there is so much freeway traffic alone that it could support it. The sunoco is a dump i used to work there full time but now only go in when i need a couple extra bucks so when i say it deserves to get closed i mean it for a myriad of reasons i wont get into now. The only value it provides is the fireworks they sell out the back during july 4th. The thing is, and you mentioned it, is that since we have to have gas stations this is a great urban-form design that doesn't create desolate holes along the street front. Maybe they need a go fund me
August 1, 20222 yr Several pics of Tremont projects under construction and recently completed: South of Gateway Animal Clinic Electric Garden Apartments Electric Garden Apartments Willey Avenue near Columbus Road Scranton Avenue Scranton Avenue WILLEY Avenue WILLEY Avenue Edited August 1, 20222 yr by Larry1962 Typos
August 1, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, viscomi said: Is that the Pizza Pan store front on Scranton. Looking good. It is the old Pizza Pan storefront. Let’s not forget about the refurbished building across the street. Dave Ferrante of Visible Voice and Proof bought and refurbished the building into ten apartments.
August 1, 20222 yr The fourth corner at Scranton and Willey/Kenilworth is the only one that hasn't seen investment. It's been owned for five years by an ambitious young man Gustave "Gusty" Molnar who is a partner in a firm called Social Mortgage. He also is part of development teams on some notable projects around town such as the Woodhill development in Little Italy. Considering his lack of activity with this site, this may be a buy-and-hold strategy for him rather than a development play. If the neighboring properties, including one owned by Patsy Kline (not Patsy Cline!), start getting acquired, perhaps we might see something substantial. Or maybe this corner might someday host a small-scale development like a cafe or a something. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 1, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, viscomi said: Is that the Pizza Pan store front on Scranton. Looking good. Yes, Pizza Pan. Certainly not Silver Fox 🤐
August 1, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: The fourth corner at Scranton and Willey/Kenilworth is the only one that hasn't seen investment. It's been owned for five years by an ambitious young man Gustave "Gusty" Molnar who is a partner in a firm called Social Mortgage. He also is part of development teams on some notable projects around town such as the Woodhill development in Little Italy. Considering his lack of activity with this site, this may be a buy-and-hold strategy for him rather than a development play. If the neighboring properties, including one owned by Patsy Kline (not Patsy Cline!), start getting acquired, perhaps we might see something substantial. Or maybe this corner might someday host a small-scale development like a cafe or a something. A cafe would be nice. It definitely would have complimented Tremont Tap House (RIP). Speaking of which, does anyone know why they closed? COVID?
August 1, 20222 yr 2 minutes ago, Ineffable_Matt said: A cafe would be nice. It definitely would have complimented Tremont Tap House (RIP). Speaking of which, does anyone know why they closed? COVID? Wait? They closed???
August 1, 20222 yr 2 minutes ago, Ineffable_Matt said: A cafe would be nice. It definitely would have complimented Tremont Tap House (RIP). Speaking of which, does anyone know why they closed? COVID? Tap House closed in April for renovations. It's supposed to re-open this summer.
August 1, 20222 yr 56 minutes ago, Mendo said: Tap House closed in April for renovations. It's supposed to re-open this summer. Oh, thank God! Its been closed up for a while, so i just assumed the worst.
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