September 5, 20231 yr On 8/25/2023 at 1:25 PM, marty15 said: The gothic revival looking school building. Corner of Scranton and Kinkel? https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4690242,-81.6972807,3a,75y,226.98h,102.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_u0VGgkT5qZWxdhj_3aAVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
September 5, 20231 yr Corner of Scranton and Kinkel? https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4690242,-81.6972807,3a,75y,226.98h,102.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_u0VGgkT5qZWxdhj_3aAVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttuSuch a stunning building. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
September 27, 20231 yr What?! 😂 this has got to be a record, right? https://www.clevescene.com/food-drink/edisons-next-door-pizza-in-tremont-has-closed-42830602
September 28, 20231 yr 10 hours ago, GREGinPARMA said: What?! 😂 this has got to be a record, right? https://www.clevescene.com/food-drink/edisons-next-door-pizza-in-tremont-has-closed-42830602 the bizarreness continues. everything about these events is just so confusing to me.
October 2, 20231 yr Just west of the railroad track? Isn't that Cooper Flats? Berges submitted a permit application for a 21-unit apartment building at 1923 Willey on Sept. 5. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 3, 20231 yr 3 hours ago, KJP said: Just west of the railroad track? Isn't that Cooper Flats? Berges submitted a permit application for a 21-unit apartment building at 1923 Willey on Sept. 5. I live right up the hill from here. It will certainly be interesting to see how the nightly ritual of gunshots, drag races, and other forms of dumbf*ckery that take place along Train Avenue respond to increased development along this stretch. Edited October 3, 20231 yr by ASP1984
October 3, 20231 yr 14 hours ago, ASP1984 said: I live right up the hill from here. It will certainly be interesting to see how the nightly ritual of gunshots, drag races, and other forms of dumbf*ckery that take place along Train Avenue respond to increased development along this stretch. There was once a plan to close Train Ave to cars and just make it multi-use path. This would solve 90 percent of the issue.
October 3, 20231 yr 10 minutes ago, noname said: There was once a plan to close Train Ave to cars and just make it multi-use path. This would solve 90 percent of the issue. With the Flats Industrial RR getting ripped up, I'm sure it will become a trail. Don't need two trails. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 3, 20231 yr 48 minutes ago, KJP said: With the Flats Industrial RR getting ripped up, I'm sure it will become a trail. Don't need two trails. I didn't know that was happening. That's going to be cool.
October 3, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, Dino said: I didn't know that was happening. That's going to be cool. This was a fun article to research and write, but sad that I had to.... https://neo-trans.blog/2022/10/26/clevelands-first-railroad-is-history/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 3, 20231 yr 6 hours ago, KJP said: With the Flats Industrial RR getting ripped up, I'm sure it will become a trail. Don't need two trails. Need more than two trails, the more the better!
October 25, 20231 yr 11 minutes ago, dwolfi01 said: is this strictly residential or is there street level retail in some capacity? There will be a 2300 sqft retail space at the corner.
October 25, 20231 yr Has anyone heard an update on La Cave Du Vin? Was supposed to take over the old Spotted Owl space
October 25, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Jax said: Has anyone heard an update on La Cave Du Vin? Was supposed to take over the old Spotted Owl space They started hiring for bartenders and barbacks a few weeks back. I'd expect an opening soon (November/December). Edited October 25, 20231 yr by downtownjoe
November 2, 20231 yr NW2023-031 | Tremont Treehouse Apartments| Ward 3 | Conceptual Approval | C | Needs to go PetBot New Apartments; 55 unit Address: College and Professor Ave Representative: Dan Spirko https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/designreview/drcagenda/2023/PDF/NW-Agenda-11-08-23.pdf
November 2, 20231 yr New brewery in Tremont - Mosaic Brewing Co https://aca-prod.accela.com/COC/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=BuildingHousing&TabName=BuildingHousing&capID1=23BHO&capID2=00000&capID3=14198&agencyCode=COC&IsToShowInspection=
November 2, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, Clefan98 said: NW2023-031 | Tremont Treehouse Apartments| Ward 3 | Conceptual Approval | C | Needs to go PetBot New Apartments; 55 unit Address: College and Professor Ave Representative: Dan Spirko https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/designreview/drcagenda/2023/PDF/NW-Agenda-11-08-23.pdf 55 units. I’m guessing this will wrap around Treehouse on those empty lots.
November 2, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, noname said: New brewery in Tremont - Mosaic Brewing Co https://aca-prod.accela.com/COC/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=BuildingHousing&TabName=BuildingHousing&capID1=23BHO&capID2=00000&capID3=14198&agencyCode=COC&IsToShowInspection= This is going to be awesome. A true walk up neighborhood brewery here will be a hit especially with it right off the trails.
November 2, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, marty15 said: 55 units. I’m guessing this will wrap around Treehouse on those empty lots. That's a pretty small space for 55 units. Perhaps the buildings east of the Treehouse are also getting torn down for this development?
November 2, 20231 yr 44 minutes ago, Rustbelter said: That's a pretty small space for 55 units. Perhaps the buildings east of the Treehouse are also getting torn down for this development? I dunno. That lot on Professor, next to the patio is pretty large.
November 3, 20231 yr It's a half-acre site that includes the residences on College. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 3, 20231 yr Here are the parcels owned by the Dalad Group, about 22,000 sqft (0.5 acre) in total. The plan I believe would demolish the small multi-family homes on College. I haven't seen any plans, but last I heard there would be ground floor retail along Professor.
November 3, 20231 yr 15 hours ago, WindyBuckeye said: This is going to be awesome. A true walk up neighborhood brewery here will be a hit especially with it right off the trails. UO meetup spot in the future?
November 3, 20231 yr Guesing it's unrelated but I saw this building in yellow has a notice on the door saying it's "been determined to be vacant". Wondered if that meant someone was trying to acquire? Just thought it was interesting, hadn't seen that before. Edited November 3, 20231 yr by Jax
November 7, 20231 yr Driftwood update. The street presence is impressive, and I’m digging these columns.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
November 7, 20231 yr I love Tremont. Location, character etc. I will be making a big move in the next 2-3 years and Tremont would be high on my list, although I will admit I do not know the neighborhood as well as others, as most of my forays over the years have been to go eat at the various restaurants (and most of the time at night which limits sightseeing). That said, something that might hold me back is my perception that there is a lack of "convenience retail" in the heart of the neighborhood to which you can walk. I believe the neighborhood would benefit from a no frills strip of say 7-8 convenience stores such as a drug store, dry cleaner, deli selling a few groceries as well, UPS store...things of that nature. I imagine this might be a hard development to actually implement due to lack of a large enough lot for such a strip in a central part of the neighborhood as well as cost, and probably lack of interest from those developers who might take on such a small scale project. City incentives would probably be necessary and I don't believe something like this is actually on anybody's radar. I wonder if actual Tremont residents could comment on this. Again, my perception could be totally off base due to my lack of knowledge of the neighborhood.
November 7, 20231 yr 25 minutes ago, Htsguy said: I love Tremont. Location, character etc. I will be making a big move in the next 2-3 years and Tremont would be high on my list, although I will admit I do not know the neighborhood as well as others, as most of my forays over the years have been to go eat at the various restaurants (and most of the time at night which limits sightseeing). That said, something that might hold me back is my perception that there is a lack of "convenience retail" in the heart of the neighborhood to which you can walk. I believe the neighborhood would benefit from a no frills strip of say 7-8 convenience stores such as a drug store, dry cleaner, deli selling a few groceries as well, UPS store...things of that nature. I imagine this might be a hard development to actually implement due to lack of a large enough lot for such a strip in a central part of the neighborhood as well as cost, and probably lack of interest from those developers who might take on such a small scale project. City incentives would probably be necessary and I don't believe something like this is actually on anybody's radar. I wonder if actual Tremont residents could comment on this. Again, my perception could be totally off base due to my lack of knowledge of the neighborhood. I don’t think you’ll see much of that for any number of reasons, but especially with the proximity of Steelyard
November 7, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, ASP1984 said: Driftwood update. The street presence is impressive, and I’m digging these columns. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Love seeing a corner get defined
November 7, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, bumsquare said: I don’t think you’ll see much of that for any number of reasons, but especially with the proximity of Steelyard I guess I probably agree with you for the same unstated reasons, but that is what makes the neighborhood slightly less desirable for me when comparing places and weighing options. If i just want a half gallon of milk and a dozen eggs I would just rather walk 4-5 blocks than get in my car and drive.
November 7, 20231 yr Someone on one of the neighborhood Facebook pages has posted about opening a deli/grocery or something to that effect. As far as things like a drugstore, all the drugstore brands are struggling and closing a lot of locations so probably not likely any time soon. Once the next wave of developments comes online, it’ll be interesting to see if the market responds to the influx of new people. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
November 8, 20231 yr 3 hours ago, WindyBuckeye said: Wasn’t Tost supposed to have some sort of small grocery options? I believe so, but not sure how extensive they would be - even so, that would be great for the immediate area. The folks I referenced are/were behind the Home Pantry stand at the West Side Market. Purely speculative but I think if the Sokolowski’s site ever gets redeveloped, a small ground floor grocer (thinking along the lines of Constantino’s on West Ninth) would probably do well - walkable for a good amount of the neighborhood, foot and bicycle traffic with the Towpath and (hate to say it but) ample nearby parking with the lots across Abbey Avenue. Any way, back to actual construction projects. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
November 8, 20231 yr Professor Market has the staples. I've gotten eggs and milk there before. They have a deli slicer. Sure, I wish it had some fancier options but it's fine in a pinch. Daves and WSM are a 5 minute bike ride away.
November 12, 20231 yr On 11/7/2023 at 12:14 PM, Htsguy said: I love Tremont. Location, character etc. I will be making a big move in the next 2-3 years and Tremont would be high on my list, although I will admit I do not know the neighborhood as well as others, as most of my forays over the years have been to go eat at the various restaurants (and most of the time at night which limits sightseeing). That said, something that might hold me back is my perception that there is a lack of "convenience retail" in the heart of the neighborhood to which you can walk. I believe the neighborhood would benefit from a no frills strip of say 7-8 convenience stores such as a drug store, dry cleaner, deli selling a few groceries as well, UPS store...things of that nature. I imagine this might be a hard development to actually implement due to lack of a large enough lot for such a strip in a central part of the neighborhood as well as cost, and probably lack of interest from those developers who might take on such a small scale project. City incentives would probably be necessary and I don't believe something like this is actually on anybody's radar. I wonder if actual Tremont residents could comment on this. Again, my perception could be totally off base due to my lack of knowledge of the neighborhood. I'm a Tremont resident and have been for 63 years. When I was a kid, there was quite a lot of retail here. If you added in the department stores on 25th around Lorain and the rest of the retail on 25th from Detroit to Clark, my family rarely ever had to leave the neighborhood to buy anything--everything we needed was within a 20 minute walk. I remember regularly walking with my grandma to the west side market down 14th and across that rickety bridge over the train tracks. It used to scare me to death to look down the huge holes in the sidewalk to see all the tracks below me as a four-year old. Some of those holes were almost big enough for me to fall right through. But here in Tremont proper, I remember there being a hardware store, a bookstore, a Catholic religious goods store, 2 drugstores (one of 14th and one on Literary), two flower shops, a grocery store on 14th, three auto repair shops, a donut shop on 14th where Terrapins is now that only sold glazed donuts (13 for $1.00), a bakery by Pilgrim church and a Lawsons over there, too; a ladies dress shop on Professor, several candy/comic book/pop stores that catered to kids only...and either a bar or a family-run convenience store on practically every neighborhood block. I'm probably forgetting a few things, but you get the idea. All the small stores began going out of business when the Kmarts and Gold Circles and other big box stores moved into town. Who can compete with those guys? But I do miss my old Tremont very much. This neighborhood is nothing like it once was, and never will be that again. Everything back then revolved around family, tons of kids, church, and immigrant culture. Every kid I knew had parents from "somewhere else" (either Eastern Europe, Puerto Rico, or West Virginia) who spoke another language, spoke English with an accent, and cooked incredible food.
November 12, 20231 yr @One_Suchwhat a wonderful description of the retail scene in Tremont back in the day. It reminds me of what has been lost not just in Tremont but in millions of neighborhoods across the country. There was such a wonderful way of life and younger people today have no clue. All in the name of efficiency/pricing. You gain some but man, what you lose in the process is so sad.
November 12, 20231 yr 16 hours ago, One_Such said: I'm a Tremont resident and have been for 63 years. When I was a kid, there was quite a lot of retail here. If you added in the department stores on 25th around Lorain and the rest of the retail on 25th from Detroit to Clark, my family rarely ever had to leave the neighborhood to buy anything--everything we needed was within a 20 minute walk. I remember regularly walking with my grandma to the west side market down 14th and across that rickety bridge over the train tracks. It used to scare me to death to look down the huge holes in the sidewalk to see all the tracks below me as a four-year old. Some of those holes were almost big enough for me to fall right through. But here in Tremont proper, I remember there being a hardware store, a bookstore, a Catholic religious goods store, 2 drugstores (one of 14th and one on Literary), two flower shops, a grocery store on 14th, three auto repair shops, a donut shop on 14th where Terrapins is now that only sold glazed donuts (13 for $1.00), a bakery by Pilgrim church and a Lawsons over there, too; a ladies dress shop on Professor, several candy/comic book/pop stores that catered to kids only...and either a bar or a family-run convenience store on practically every neighborhood block. I'm probably forgetting a few things, but you get the idea. All the small stores began going out of business when the Kmarts and Gold Circles and other big box stores moved into town. Who can compete with those guys? But I do miss my old Tremont very much. This neighborhood is nothing like it once was, and never will be that again. Everything back then revolved around family, tons of kids, church, and immigrant culture. Every kid I knew had parents from "somewhere else" (either Eastern Europe, Puerto Rico, or West Virginia) who spoke another language, spoke English with an accent, and cooked incredible food. I'm sure I'm not alone in hoping you have some pictures to share from your childhood there of these great neighborhood assets!
November 17, 20231 yr Tremont’s Lincoln Hts apartments start By Ken Prendergast / November 17, 2023 Hidden away behind houses and trees, construction on another large development in Cleveland’s Tremont neighborhood got under way this week. And while this latest development project is largely shielded from view, it simultaneously reveals the continuing strength of Cleveland’s multi-family market as well as the comparative weakness of its for-sale housing market. That’s especially true in certain neighborhoods that, starting next year, will lose their ability to offer 100 percent property tax abatement for new, for-sale homes. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/11/17/tremonts-lincoln-hts-apartments-start/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 18, 20231 yr What a great urban neighborhood - and getting stronger project by project. Once interest rates come back down in the next economic cycle l wouldn't be surprised to see high end for sale units parked in new cul-de-sacs in that little valley.
December 27, 20231 yr I was bored this morning while I was drinking my coffee and decided to google search the new Abbey Avenue Apartments developed by Geis. They are starting to market units and of course have a very slick website. The only "problem" that I can see with it is that under the heading "Prime Location. Exceptional living" it has a glowing narrative of Ohio City and Tremont, and right next to this description with a caption "Discover your Neighborhood" is a very pretty picture of the Columbus skyline. What do you want to bet the web designer lives in New York...or maybe Streetboro.
December 27, 20231 yr 6 minutes ago, Htsguy said: I was bored this morning while I was drinking my coffee and decided to google search the new Abbey Avenue Apartments developed by Geis. They are starting to market units and of course have a very slick website. The only "problem" that I can see with it is that under the heading "Prime Location. Exceptional living" it has a glowing narrative of Ohio City and Tremont, and right next to this description with a caption "Discover your Neighborhood" is a very pretty picture of the Columbus skyline. What do you want to bet the web designer lives in New York...or maybe Streetboro. A lot of websites these days are done by third party apartment software services like Yardly. My guess is it comes from a service like this. My own 2 cents is it reads more AI generated then slick.
December 27, 20231 yr 11 minutes ago, Htsguy said: I was bored this morning while I was drinking my coffee and decided to google search the new Abbey Avenue Apartments developed by Geis. They are starting to market units and of course have a very slick website. The only "problem" that I can see with it is that under the heading "Prime Location. Exceptional living" it has a glowing narrative of Ohio City and Tremont, and right next to this description with a caption "Discover your Neighborhood" is a very pretty picture of the Columbus skyline. What do you want to bet the web designer lives in New York...or maybe Streetboro. Their “developers” live in Texas and San Diego, I work on websites for a living this is a very average website leveraging Wordpress. They’re certainly using a good bit of stock images but you’re right they’re not from here and clearly didn’t look too far into the skyline
December 27, 20231 yr Let’s see…. City in Ohio… Starts with a C… I think it has a river…. That looks like a good picture!
December 27, 20231 yr I mean...shouldn't a basic level of fact checking numbers/images be a requirement? Sloppy. When l was working avoidable mistakes like that would have resulted in a reprimand. Today no one cares.
December 27, 20231 yr On 11/11/2023 at 10:46 PM, One_Such said: I'm a Tremont resident and have been for 63 years. When I was a kid, there was quite a lot of retail here. If you added in the department stores on 25th around Lorain and the rest of the retail on 25th from Detroit to Clark, my family rarely ever had to leave the neighborhood to buy anything--everything we needed was within a 20 minute walk. I remember regularly walking with my grandma to the west side market down 14th and across that rickety bridge over the train tracks. It used to scare me to death to look down the huge holes in the sidewalk to see all the tracks below me as a four-year old. Some of those holes were almost big enough for me to fall right through. But here in Tremont proper, I remember there being a hardware store, a bookstore, a Catholic religious goods store, 2 drugstores (one of 14th and one on Literary), two flower shops, a grocery store on 14th, three auto repair shops, a donut shop on 14th where Terrapins is now that only sold glazed donuts (13 for $1.00), a bakery by Pilgrim church and a Lawsons over there, too; a ladies dress shop on Professor, several candy/comic book/pop stores that catered to kids only...and either a bar or a family-run convenience store on practically every neighborhood block. I'm probably forgetting a few things, but you get the idea. All the small stores began going out of business when the Kmarts and Gold Circles and other big box stores moved into town. Who can compete with those guys? But I do miss my old Tremont very much. This neighborhood is nothing like it once was, and never will be that again. Everything back then revolved around family, tons of kids, church, and immigrant culture. Every kid I knew had parents from "somewhere else" (either Eastern Europe, Puerto Rico, or West Virginia) who spoke another language, spoke English with an accent, and cooked incredible food. I'm 33 - and my Grandma grew up in Tremont and met my Grandpa when they went to high school together at St. John Cantius. I grew up going to Tremont regularly - Church 7-8x a year at St John Cantius and our family friends owned some bars/restaurants/shops there. So while I'm not old enough to remember Tremont "as it was", I do remember it well before its transition. For the sake of nostalgia - I'll share some interesting memories from myself and grandparents: 1. My grandma's house was demolished to make the little convenient store across the street from Grumpy's. From there, her and her family moved to a house that's still standing near Scranton and Starkweather. 2. My great uncle was married at Cantius in 1975 and had the reception at Lemko Hall. His best friend (following their service together in Vietnam) was a black man named Teddy - he was a groomsmen in the wedding. My mom (born in '62) has memories of being told to leave the reception out the back door because a crowd of about 15-20 men (a self-proclaimed local gang) had gathered outside (mainly Polish and Slovak) when they heard a black man was in Lemko Hall. My uncle's reception was cut short when the groomsmen and family friends literally had a West Side Story style brawl in the middle of the street at 11th and Literary. I've since had several people who were in attendance tell me the story (unsolicited) of my grandpa knocking a man unconscious during the fight, pulling off his leather jacket, and throwing it in a tree in Lincoln Park. Sadly, one of my grandpa's cousins was pushed down the stairs of Lemko in his wheelchair by a gang member, and was hospitalized for over 2 months. 3. Up until the donations made by the Catanzarite family (of Pat Catan's), St. John Cantius was near disrepair. We would go to Christmas Eve mass there, and I remember needing to wear my coat in church and - because we can't wear hats in church - my mom would always bring the side-fitting ear muffs for me. There was always at least one Polish song in those masses. 4. I've always been close with my uncle, but he was actively an alcoholic until I was about 13... He watched me one day and took me to the Treehouse, Hotz's, and Carney's (flats) in that order... I still remember the bartender at Hotz's offering individually-sold cigarettes at the bar, and, though I didn't understand what was going on at the time, I was in Carney's when a stolen truck was literally unloaded at the front door (my uncle had to explain to me what happened about 10 years post-facto). 5. My great Aunt Mary belonged to a "Polish moms club" and I remember my grandma and I picked her up from there one time, at a house on Professor... and it was like entering a time machine from 1955. All of the women were smoking, all had babushka's on, and the carpet was bright red, as if a tribute to the Motherland.
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