December 27, 20231 yr 48 minutes ago, cadmen said: I mean...shouldn't a basic level of fact checking numbers/images be a requirement? Sloppy. When l was working avoidable mistakes like that would have resulted in a reprimand. Today no one cares. They hired a very small company with 15 people and only two people working on the development and they used a template that probably gets used 100s of times for their clients. For a small shop that has no one dedicated to quality it’s put on the customer (Gies) to review, it’s a get what you pay for type deal
December 27, 20231 yr 27 minutes ago, BoomerangCleRes said: They hired a very small company with 15 people and only two people working on the development and they used a template that probably gets used 100s of times for their clients. For a small shop that has no one dedicated to quality it’s put on the customer (Gies) to review, it’s a get what you pay for type deal Gies being frugal. Say it ain't so Joe.😉
December 27, 20231 yr "Get what you pay for." OK, but does it really cost so much more to do a little checking before you submit your work? Or maybe that's just how we do things today.
December 27, 20231 yr Not to knock this project at all... which I think adds a lot to this area. But as someone who just redid an entire development website (sustainableca)...it takes a ton of time and money and a thought through voice. The latter is hard to find if you are in a beds&heads mentality as opposed to a "what is this new community we are building about" kind of framework.
December 28, 20231 yr 18 hours ago, misterjoshr said: Not to knock this project at all... which I think adds a lot to this area. But as someone who just redid an entire development website (sustainableca)...it takes a ton of time and money and a thought through voice. The latter is hard to find if you are in a beds&heads mentality as opposed to a "what is this new community we are building about" kind of framework. good to hear from you mr josh — can you tell us what your latest or next upcoming project is? i wish you a robust local developments new year 😅 👍
December 28, 20231 yr 22 hours ago, misterjoshr said: Not to knock this project at all... which I think adds a lot to this area. But as someone who just redid an entire development website (sustainableca)...it takes a ton of time and money and a thought through voice. The latter is hard to find if you are in a beds&heads mentality as opposed to a "what is this new community we are building about" kind of framework. We sent a proposal for this project but weren't selected. I'm glad the project went well– looks good and love how you all think/create.
December 29, 20231 yr 6 hours ago, Jax said: What a bummer.. Already posted in the Cleveland Restaurants section. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 25, 20241 yr Update on the Tremont Treehouse Apartments noted in this mostly Ohio City article..... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 29, 20241 yr Not much to see but there's a page up for the Driftwood project at (edit) Fairfield and 11th. Mentions a restaurant/bar as an amenity. I wonder who the operator will be. https://www.live-driftwood.com/ Edited January 30, 20241 yr by Mendo
February 9, 20241 yr Stella Maris expanding services to Tremont, creating all-gender inpatient facility BY RONALDO RODRIGUEZ JR. ● COMMUNITY JOURNALISM, DEVELOPMENT, HEALTH, SOCIAL EQUITY ●FEBRUARY 8, 2024 Within the next 12 to 18 months, Stella Maris plans to convert the former St. John Cantiusconvent at 2270 Professor Ave., a designated City of Cleveland historic landmark, to 32 residential treatment beds. https://thelandcle.org/stories/stella-maris-expanding-services-to-tremont-creating-all-gender-inpatient-facility/
February 12, 20241 yr On 2/9/2024 at 1:27 PM, MuRrAy HiLL said: Stella Maris expanding services to Tremont, creating all-gender inpatient facility BY RONALDO RODRIGUEZ JR. ● COMMUNITY JOURNALISM, DEVELOPMENT, HEALTH, SOCIAL EQUITY ●FEBRUARY 8, 2024 Within the next 12 to 18 months, Stella Maris plans to convert the former St. John Cantiusconvent at 2270 Professor Ave., a designated City of Cleveland historic landmark, to 32 residential treatment beds. https://thelandcle.org/stories/stella-maris-expanding-services-to-tremont-creating-all-gender-inpatient-facility/ Thanks for posting. Why would anyone vote thumbs down on this?
February 12, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, jeremyck01 said: Thanks for posting. Why would anyone vote thumbs down on this? could be a misclick but I'm sure there will be plenty of NIMBYs out in full force to try and stop this. People get scared because treatment centers bring "undesirables" to their neighborhood which is a shame. I can tell you firsthand living very close by to one of these you wouldn't even notice it at all! But people still get up in arms. Hope they don't get too much pushback because I think this would be great use of that church!
February 12, 20241 yr Seems like a perfect location (I live about a block away). The 25 bus stop is literally at the front door. I haven't worked with them directly, but I've heard very good things about Stella Maris. The article says the block club was very supportive so hopefully there isn't too much pushback.
February 12, 20241 yr Anybody know the extent of the building renovation? I'd love see the exterior restored, but these kind of projects usually don't usually have the budget. Edited February 12, 20241 yr by Mendo
February 21, 20241 yr Tremont hillside development plan regains life By Ken Prendergast / February 20, 2024 A large, proposed redevelopment of former industrial and railroad lands on a hillside in Cleveland’s Tremont neighborhood is showing renewed signs of life after a court battle was settled in December. That settlement involved land being divvied up so a rezoning can move forward and an asphalt plant can continue to operate. If the land is rezoned by City Council, a mostly residential development can proceed — next to the asphalt plant. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/02/20/tremont-hillside-development-plan-regains-life/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 21, 20241 yr Bummer. That asphalt plant (and the other asphalt plant and the concrete plant) is a quality of life issue for parts of the neighborhood. Edited February 21, 20241 yr by Mendo
February 21, 20241 yr 9 hours ago, Mendo said: Bummer. That asphalt plant (and the other asphalt plant and the concrete plant) is a quality of life issue for parts of the neighborhood. Edited February 21, 20241 yr by GREGinPARMA
February 21, 20241 yr yeah it's a shame a huge chunk of the riverside is taken up by heavy industry. I wonder if eventually as Tremont and Ohio City become more and more built up the city will eventually have to work on a deal with these companies to move operations out of downtown to free up valuable land.
February 22, 20241 yr I'm sympathetic to the asphalt plant actually. That would really suck to have your business (or workplace) blown up out of nowhere like that. Not crazy about the smells it puts out but it's sort of ingrained in me at this point and hardly notice it except on particularly pungent days lol Edited February 22, 20241 yr by Jax
February 22, 20241 yr There isn't a lot of infrastructure involved with that asphalt plant. I suspect, however, they want to stay next to a navigable waterway so they can get cheaper shipments of aggregates. If they can find another dock location someplace in/near Cleveland, I'll bet this asphalt plant won't be here much longer. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Jax said: I'm sympathetic to the asphalt plant actually. That would really suck to have your business (or workplace) blown up out of nowhere like that. Not crazy about the smells it puts out but it's sort of ingrained in me at this point and hardly notice it except on particularly pungent days lol Right I'm not a fan of kicking out businesses which is why I would like it if the city gave them incentive to move by offering them land elsewhere or some tax breaks to move or maybe covering some of the relocation costs. IDK how that would work though lol. Not sure if that's common to get "undesirable" businesses out.
February 22, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, KJP said: There isn't a lot of infrastructure involved with that asphalt plant. I suspect, however, they want to stay next to a navigable waterway so they can get cheaper shipments of aggregates. If they can find another dock location someplace in/near Cleveland, I'll bet this asphalt plant won't be here much longer. Ironically, Google shows that Shelly has another asphalt plant just around the next bend in the river, located at 101 Mahoning Ave. But Google suggests it may be closed. They also seem to lease this site, too, as it is owned by Concrete Inc., an affiliate of Osborne Inc. of Mentor. Next to that is a vacant piece of riverside land and is also owned by an affiliate of Osborne. Together, they measure nearly 11 acres. Next to the Osborne land are two parcels totaling 7.4 acres and owned by Norfolk Southern Corp. There is an abandoned industry on that property. Combined, all of these parcels total about 18 acres. Their current site on the Tremont hillside is about 16 acres. The city would probably have better luck getting NS's attention to sell its property, especially if it started filing building code violations for the decaying buildings. So the city buys it, cleans it up, gets a NOFA from the EPA, and then sells it to Shelly or Holcim. Problem solved. Of course, this will probably take about 10 years to accomplish. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 22, 20241 yr Civilization Coffee building is for sale. Not sure yet what this means for Civilization.... https://ahprd1cdn.csgpimgs.com/d2/kTAzB1ZFTcUwJ7F0DzqgnZl1aOGWcy40luh3PXiHJdQ/2366 W 11th St Brochure - 2366 W 11th St.pdf "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 23, 20241 yr From the listing at the link above: “The sale includes the real estate and the business, please do not interrupt the business…” - I would guess that Civilization will be impacted by the sale of the building.
February 27, 20241 yr Tremont Treehouse Apartments plans announced By Ken Prendergast / February 26, 2024 A joint venture proposing a four-story apartment building in Cleveland’s Tremont neighborhood called the Treehouse Apartments, first reported by NEOtrans last month, will go before the City Planning Commission’s Design Review Committee to present their plans this Friday. While the project would add dozens of new housing units to the neighborhood to respond to as-yet unsatiated demand, it would also result in the demolition of three 19th-century houses. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/02/26/tremont-treehouse-apartments-plans-announced/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 27, 20241 yr Dalad usually does great work. At this point, partnering with Geis (and a Geis design) clearly is not going to result in a shining star. It just seems like Geis is partnering all over town with other developers and the result is a bunch of mediocre, value engineered designs. Edited February 27, 20241 yr by Htsguy
February 29, 20241 yr Cleveland police SWAT building costs rise By Ken Prendergast / February 29, 2024 Plans for converting the city of Cleveland's former animal shelter at 2690 W, 7th St. near Clark Field into a new administrative and training center for the Cleveland Police Department's SWAT unit are moving forward. But those building renovation plans are coming at a higher price -- about 15 percent higher. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/02/29/cleveland-police-swat-building-costs-rise/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 11, 20241 yr Just a quick snap of Driftwood before walking into South Side. It sure does have a presence
April 11, 20241 yr Why do we build so many of these structures with the most drab colors? It seems the insulation underneath the exterior of many buildings is more interesting and uplifting than the exterior. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 11, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: Why do we build so many of these structures with the most drab colors? It seems the insulation underneath the exterior of many buildings is more interesting and uplifting than the exterior. Drab = depressing. And I don't even dislike the silver/grey, it's kinda cool...I get it, it's an homage to "industrial." But do any search like "happiest cities in the world" and you'll constantly see Helsinki, Copenhagen, Oslo and Stockholm. I wish more builders here would emulate how those cities utilize colors in context to their cloudy northern climate.
April 11, 20241 yr ^ l think it's because most developers automatically default to neutral colors because they are afraid to stand out. Developers (especially in Cleveland) are inherently conservative. Projects cost a lot of money, there's less risk in looking to hit a single or a double. They don't want to risk swinging for a homerun but striking out.
April 11, 20241 yr 51 minutes ago, cadmen said: ^ l think it's because most developers automatically default to neutral colors because they are afraid to stand out. Developers (especially in Cleveland) are inherently conservative. Projects cost a lot of money, there's less risk in looking to hit a single or a double. They don't want to risk swinging for a homerun but striking out. Momentum isn't necessarily a bad thing. Momentum in Tremont seems toward that post-industrial look, and again I get it. I just have always been fascinated by how aesthetics and design affect mood and behavior. Cleveland has had a reputation as an ugly place and while that's wholly undeserved I think we can all understand certain aspects or elements where that negative perception may have come from.
April 11, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, surfohio said: Momentum isn't necessarily a bad thing. Momentum in Tremont seems toward that post-industrial look, and again I get it. I just have always been fascinated by how aesthetics and design affect mood and behavior. Cleveland has had a reputation as an ugly place and while that's wholly undeserved I think we can all understand certain aspects or elements where that negative perception may have come from. It goes beyond the architecture. There is seemingly a complete lack of will to consider aesthetics even in high profile areas e.g., the circular planters used to control traffic on Superior near public square. Making things look good is a culture we lack.
April 11, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, KJP said: Why do we build so many of these structures with the most drab colors? It seems the insulation underneath the exterior of many buildings is more interesting and uplifting than the exterior. Agreed! Avant-garde design requires risking someone not liking it. Sometimes developers are willing to take that risk, but often times not. However, even if a developer wanted to be bold, most projects in Cleveland are still subject to block club and Design Review approval for one reason or another. This usually leads to a very watered down design.
May 7, 20241 yr On 5/5/2024 at 3:09 PM, MayDay said: That building truly has a presence, especially in person.
May 8, 20241 yr Their page was updated with lots of shiny renderings. Plus a cool CG video showing the apartment and amenities, plus maybe a ramen/Asian restaurant in the retail space. Here's a couple screengrabs of the restaurant and interior courtyard. https://live-driftwood.com/ https://live-driftwood.com/multimedia/driftwood-full-website/driftwood_full_video_presentatio.mp4
May 8, 20241 yr Classy website. One of the better apartment websites out there. In contrast, I happened across the Geis website for the Abbey Rd. apartments and in the section describing Cleveland it has a pic of the Columbus skyline. I imagine the website was created in house by the brother of the guy who designed Bridgeworks. Edited May 8, 20241 yr by Htsguy
May 15, 20241 yr https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2024/05/new-housing-development-coming-to-clevelands-west-side.html?utm_campaign=clevelanddotcom_sf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1vTVvvhReU7pgZuIzFUqr_WpbL_KtK2ItvgIJ_5kW5xHwn3-VcD56tWKg_aem_Adef9cVOGkA2HnzBDwWMJ_O6As038Lwt4dVwfwrndUAwywv-j3fXOYAhkIeweLq0-kDBotdalwBNiyRlVkZYNuX5
May 15, 20241 yr On 5/7/2024 at 8:44 AM, MyPhoneDead said: On 5/5/2024 at 3:09 PM, MayDay said: That building truly has a presence, especially in person. Now that all the power lines are in, when does this power plant come on line? Haha.
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