January 17, 20205 yr That is some vision! Its awkwardly narrow for modern apartments. It looks to be built in 1860s -1890s. I imagine everything needs updated. I would wonder if it even has water and sewer running into the building.
January 17, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, marty15 said: Wow. Wish I would’ve caught this on the market. She got it for only $100k It might not be as a good of a deal as you think though.
January 17, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, MayDay said: That building has been dilapidated for so long it's hard for me to even imagine it getting redeveloped. Looking at the building, it'd be cool if they could turn it into a townhouse type of deal. Separate it into individual 2 floor units, cut an entrance with stairs into each unit's exterior facade, and make it truly urban. As for me personally, call me crazy but the place looks haunted. lol
January 17, 20205 yr 20 minutes ago, freefourur said: It might not be as a good of a deal as you think though. That stretch of Scranton is gonna get hot in the coming years.
January 17, 20205 yr Doesn't the red X on the building mean it was condemned by the city? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 17, 20205 yr It was condemned in 2013. And while $100k may sound like a great deal, the permit for redeveloping it states a job value of $700k. And I imagine it will probably add up to more than that in the end.
January 17, 20205 yr 39 minutes ago, ArtDecoSquirrel said: Looking at the building, it'd be cool if they could turn it into a townhouse type of deal. Separate it into individual 2 floor units, cut an entrance with stairs into each unit's exterior facade, and make it truly urban. As for me personally, call me crazy but the place looks haunted. lol I like that idea. I've always been a fan of this building. I wonder what it used to be. It doesn't look like apartments. I always figured it was some sort of meeting hall inside.
January 17, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, X said: I like that idea. I've always been a fan of this building. I wonder what it used to be. It doesn't look like apartments. I always figured it was some sort of meeting hall inside. After checking the county property data, it looks like it was once owned by the Clevleand school district, and also operated as a piano wholesaler.
January 18, 20205 yr 8 hours ago, KJP said: Doesn't the red X on the building mean it was condemned by the city? The red X sign denotes that it's been inspected by the Cleveland Fire Department because it's a empty and or condemned building and they assess the fire risks and they enter information about the contains of the building into their database in case there is ever a fire in the building. Edited January 18, 20205 yr by Larry1962 More details
January 18, 20205 yr 13 hours ago, Larry1962 said: The red X sign denotes that it's been inspected by the Cleveland Fire Department because it's a empty and or condemned building and they assess the fire risks and they enter information about the contains of the building into their database in case there is ever a fire in the building. It also means that no interior fire attack advised because of dangers posed by the structure.
January 18, 20205 yr On 1/17/2020 at 11:21 AM, audidave said: That is some vision! Its awkwardly narrow for modern apartments. It looks to be built in 1860s -1890s. I imagine everything needs updated. I would wonder if it even has water and sewer running into the building. Looking at the historic maps, it was built between 1898 and 1903 as the Ohio Bell Telephone Exchange. The addition, defined by the different colored bricks, was added by the 1930s when they were used as Ohio Bell offices.
January 18, 20205 yr ^Thanks. The bricks were so beat up and inconsistent it looked worse for wear for a turn of the century building. I thought it would’ve been light storage and warehouse for a company in the flats.
January 19, 20205 yr I wish them well. those sorts of projects by non development/rehab people make me so nervous. No economies of scale etc. My fingers are crossed for them. It would make a big difference on scranton.
February 1, 20205 yr Stumbling out of Spotted Owl, had to snap a shot for the UO fam. Grosvenor Place. It’s much larger than I imagined. The first floor/foundation/parking is in. Disclaimer: About 5 drinks in
February 1, 20205 yr More than 80 new apartment units are slated to rise in a part of Cleveland’s Tremont neighborhood where real-estate group Sustainable Community Associates has developed a sizable portfolio of rental housing, offices and retail space. https://www.cleveland.com/business/2020/02/fairmont-creamery-developer-nears-finish-line-on-latest-tremont-project-launches-new-one.html
February 1, 20205 yr These guys just keep their heads down and continue to do great work, without all the drama. Need more like them. Edited February 1, 20205 yr by freethink
February 1, 20205 yr The corner of 5th and Jefferson as of minutes ago. I told the project manager I would crop him out. I’m a man of my word.
February 1, 20205 yr ^ I know this project has a couple of mishaps with walls collapsing. Good to see construction resume.
February 1, 20205 yr Good to see. For some reason I thought the project had been abandoned after the wall collapse.
February 2, 20205 yr There's too much money to be made in Tremont to walk away from a project like this. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 2, 20205 yr Glad they're back on track. Can someone refresh my memory - are those townhouses in the background of the second picture a part of this project, or something separate?
February 2, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, PoshSteve said: Glad they're back on track. Can someone refresh my memory - are those townhouses in the background of the second picture a part of this project, or something separate? That's this...... https://hortonharper.com/work/w5th-jefferson/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 2, 20205 yr On 1/31/2020 at 10:21 PM, marty15 said: Stumbling out of Spotted Owl, had to snap a shot for the UO fam. Grosvenor Place. It’s much larger than I imagined. The first floor/foundation/parking is in. Disclaimer: About 5 drinks in Good job Marty15 for being 5 drinks in! You hold your liquor well. Edited February 2, 20205 yr by Frmr CLEder
February 2, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: That's this...... https://hortonharper.com/work/w5th-jefferson/ I think this might answer your question @sfbob?
February 2, 20205 yr On 2/1/2020 at 4:17 PM, Htsguy said: Good to see. For some reason I thought the project had been abandoned after the wall collapse. Yeah, i thought it was put up for sale after the collapse.
February 6, 20205 yr More for "The Lincoln" at 2410 Scranton, via CPC Feb. 7th agenda: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2020/02072020/index.php @misterjoshr Edited February 6, 20205 yr by NorthShore647
February 7, 20205 yr Is that date on the renderings a misprint or have these renderings been sitting before Design Review for more than a year? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 8, 20205 yr 23 hours ago, KJP said: Is that date on the renderings a misprint or have these renderings been sitting before Design Review for more than a year? misprint!! the city has been moving expediently
February 8, 20205 yr ^ Actually, this makes me think of a good question from someone in the know. In your opinion, since you started developing and since cleveland first started to really pick up steam, has the building and planning dept incrementally gotten more efficient?
February 8, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, YO to the CLE said: ^ Actually, this makes me think of a good question from someone in the know. In your opinion, since you started developing and since cleveland first started to really pick up steam, has the building and planning dept incrementally gotten more efficient? yes. incrementally more efficient feels like a fair statement and maybe even an understatement. we all have our pet changes we'd like to see. some realistic. some probably have institutional challenges I am not privy to knowing. But...at least from my limited vantage point, planning and building are not obstacles to successful, quality projects. The faults (dear Brutus) lie elsewhere
February 19, 20205 yr Me too. I wonder what's $13 million about that. It looks like nothing more than a new entry area.
February 19, 20205 yr Apparently it expands clinic areas and other items too. See story here: https://www.wkyc.com/amp/article/life/animals/cleveland-apl-expands-capital-campaign/95-acd029fb-12f2-4f3b-aa56-89c12858b4ec
February 24, 20205 yr Near West Design Review Case Report USA GAS 3074 WEST 14TH STREET Project Information Near West Case # NW 2020-001 Address: 3074 West 14th Street Company: Architect:CARLETON MOORE! Description: New construction gas station and mixed use building http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3426&CASE=NW 2020-001
February 24, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, bjk said: Circle K? Ha. So like every gas station and convenience store? Edited February 24, 20205 yr by Mendo
February 24, 20205 yr If i were to read more into this new construction, I’d say that they will likely be closing their other location on Clark and Scranton once this opens. That then makes one wonder if there was an entity prodding them to sell that current location.
February 24, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Clefan98 said: Company: Architect:CARLETON MOORE! They’re pretty excited about that architect choice though.
February 24, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, Clefan98 said: Near West Design Review Case Report USA GAS 3074 WEST 14TH STREET Project Information Near West Case # NW 2020-001 Address: 3074 West 14th Street Company: Architect:CARLETON MOORE! Description: New construction gas station and mixed use building http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3426&CASE=NW 2020-001 There is a Gas City gas station / U-Haul branch already at that location and so it must be a demolition and then new constitution. Perhaps the underground gas tanks need to be replaced and then it just makes economic sense for a complete replacement since the existing building is kinda shabby looking compared to the other two gas stations on that intersection. Edited February 24, 20205 yr by Larry1962 More details
February 24, 20205 yr They could be planning something similar to those in The Woodlands, TX; they're nicely landscaped, fit right into the community, and believe it or not, attractive for a gas station/convenience store. Edited February 24, 20205 yr by Frmr CLEder
February 25, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, Frmr CLEder said: They could be planning something similar to those in The Woodlands, TX; they're nicely landscaped, fit right into the community, and believe it or not, attractive for a gas station/convenience store. Example?
March 3, 20205 yr TUESDAY, MARCH 3, 2020 Tremont Lincoln Heights plan shows change is coming A development vision for the south-western part of Tremont called Lincoln Heights won unanimous support Monday from its immediate community. Now, that conceptual vision is headed to City Planning Commission on Friday for its possible adoption. The plan shows existing and proposed buildings, greenspaces and parking lots in the area generally along West 25th Street and Scranton Road, from about Fairfield Avenue south to Interstate 90/490. While that area hasn't seen the intensity of development as the rest of Tremont, there are signs on the landscape and in recent property transactions that show its fortunes are starting to change. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/03/tremont-lincoln-heights-plan-shows.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 4, 20205 yr Unsurprisingly, it shows a bunch of new development along W. 25th, and pretty much nothing new along Scranton.
March 4, 20205 yr I have to say I think the projections of big growth in this area are exaggerated. the economics of new construction don't make much of what is being imagined/discussed very plausible.
March 4, 20205 yr 26 minutes ago, misterjoshr said: I have to say I think the projections of big growth in this area are exaggerated. the economics of new construction don't make much of what is being imagined/discussed very plausible. Get back to me in about four months. ? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 4, 20205 yr yes -- I assume the NRP project by Metro gets built. I am really talking about just the Lincoln Heights area. But the idea just a general new con project can be built with traditional financing, assuming you are building architecture to last -- I'll just say we never could do our projects without some of our special funding. But I also guess other developers can get creative and do math in ways I don't understand, so I should never say never!
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