May 7, 20205 yr 13 minutes ago, KJP said: Not so far. All of my realtor contacts are very busy. Lots of sales below $250,000. Above that? Not so much. Not many new houses in Cleveland (especially Tremont) list for less than $250,000, which is probably what Knez is dealing with. I was going to tour a small, renovated house listed at $175,000 in West Park that had been on the market only four days. It was already under contract. Definitely the case with those over $250k places. Just basing off of counting Zillow sales over that price (not a perfect method but it's something), February has 43 sales, March had 48, and April only had 21.
May 7, 20205 yr 11 minutes ago, Mendo said: I like the project but that design is beyond horrible. I was just looking at the conceptual for the Pizza Pan re-do across from Lincoln on the corner of Scranton and Kenilworth. Gosh like, perhaps we should think about ten years from now and not allow vinyl construction across from a project that has a nicer material pallet. What incentives does this suggest to others in the neighborhood who might want to build? Edited May 7, 20205 yr by misterjoshr
May 7, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, misterjoshr said: I was just looking at the conceptual for the Pizza Pan re-do across from Lincoln on the corner of Scranton and Kenilworth. Gosh like, perhaps we should think about ten years from now and not allow vinyl construction across from a project that has a nicer material pallet. What incentives does this suggest to others in the neighborhood who might want to build? Absolutely right. And if anybody thinks it'll look better when it's built, take a look at the crap MRN built in Glenville. Edited May 7, 20205 yr by Mendo
May 7, 20205 yr It’s Rick Maron, he’s trying to do these ridiculous micro units all over the city. He’s notorious for not wanting to pay for architects, these are examples of that mentality. He believes he’s owed preferential treatment because his kids actually did some decent projects. These old time developers still think it’s 1981 and Cleveland should accept whatever crap they expell.
May 8, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, KJP said: Not so far. All of my realtor contacts are very busy. Lots of sales below $250,000. Above that? Not so much. Not many new houses in Cleveland (especially Tremont) list for less than $250,000, which is probably what Knez is dealing with. I was going to tour a small, renovated house listed at $175,000 in West Park that had been on the market only four days. It was already under contract. Good to know at least there is some movement.
May 13, 20205 yr No big news but a permit was filed for the renovation of 910 Literary Rd. It's to be prepared for 2 tenants (one per floor). That first floor is the perfect spot for another local restaurant or store. And it'll be great to have this more lively with windows planned to be added to the space.
May 15, 20205 yr DueNorth Tremont at 2320 West 16th Place, via Near West Design Review: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2020/05152020/CPC-Revised-presentation-05-15-2020.pdf
May 19, 20205 yr View of Electric Gardens from Sunday from Towpath. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
May 19, 20205 yr 18 hours ago, CleveFan said: Thats some backyard view! Might need earplugs to enjoy it though.
May 19, 20205 yr I have a friend who just bought at phase one of the Scranton townhomes. I toured his place, and miraculously, the noise form the highway was not very bad at all. Granted he is a little further away than phase 2. The views though...One of the best of downtown I have seen.
May 28, 20205 yr CONCEPT PLAN1. Case 20-017: Tremont Historic District Lincoln Park Flats West 14th Street at Kenilworth Avenue New Apartment Building Construction Ward 3: McCormack Project Representatives: Sam Messina; David Maison, MaisonDesign http://clevelandohio.gov/sites/default/files/planning/landmark/agenda/2020/CLC-5-28-2020-AGENDA.pdf
May 28, 20205 yr The developer is trying to sell the rectory for redevelopment, then build a 5 story apartment building on the current parking lot -- 40-something units, 0 parking spots Most of the commentary from landmark today was supportive of the design and site plan, but encouraged the developer to seek options for offsite parking, like at the parking lot across the street owned by the Rose Mary Center (not super likely given the current use). There was a few that attended and spoke out in the usual way, too many units, not enough parking. There was no vote since it was just presented for conceptual approval. Hard to tell if it would get approved if they came back for approval exactly as presented. I thought the design was great and would be happy to see it get built as-is. In case they don't get around to posting the renderings like they used to, I made a couple screen grabs.
May 29, 20205 yr On 1/17/2020 at 9:44 AM, tykaps said: 3026 Scranton, an old ~15k sq ft commercial building is being redeveloped into apartments. Not much info about specifics yet but estimating 12-16 units. I was by there today, and noticed that this building was getting power washed. They were taking the paint off the bottom section.
May 29, 20205 yr On 10/4/2019 at 10:14 PM, tykaps said: Lincoln Park Flats on the CLC agenda for the 10th http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2019/10102019/index.php ^^ I think the new design is a big improvement of the first rendering, which looks very "Beachwood-y" to me.
May 29, 20205 yr 33 minutes ago, X said: I was by there today, and noticed that this building was getting power washed. They were taking the paint off the bottom section. When buildings like this are being saved and renovated, that says as much to me about Cleveland redevelopment going to a new level as any new high-rise tower. Edited May 29, 20205 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 8, 20205 yr An update on Grosvenor Place at the corner of West 7th and Jefferson Ave. This has been coming along quicky. They are already starting to put up exterior cladding.
June 11, 20205 yr Electric Gardens from the Towpath, June 9th. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
June 11, 20205 yr View of the Towpath progress along University, and a substantial home being built at West 6th and University. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
June 11, 20205 yr 25 minutes ago, MayDay said: Electric Gardens from the Towpath, June 9th. I'm a fan of those benches! This density at the edge of the hill is going to look great as part of the urban stretch of the towpath.
June 12, 20205 yr I'm glad to see more construction going on in Tremont now, including all the multi-family under way and proposed. There was quite a lull there for the last couple of years it seemed, as things fired up in OC
June 12, 20205 yr The scale of Electric Gardens is a lot larger than I imagined. Might block the views of the gated Bergen Villagers.
June 13, 20205 yr 36 minutes ago, marty15 said: The scale of Electric Gardens is a lot larger than I imagined. Might block the views of the gated Bergen Villagers. If I remember right they shortened the height of the building and also dug deeper into the hill to help preserve most of the views from the gated Bergen Village complex.
June 13, 20205 yr Some additional trail construction pics from this afternoon. This will be awesome once it’s done! Edited June 13, 20205 yr by urbanetics_
June 14, 20205 yr This is my first time hearing about this!?A new “dog park bar” coming soon to a Tremont. https://www.tapsandtailsdogbar.com/
June 14, 20205 yr 6 hours ago, urbanetics_ said: This is my first time hearing about this!?A new “dog park bar” coming soon to a Tremont. https://www.tapsandtailsdogbar.com/ Looks like Terrestrial Brewing has some competition ?
June 15, 20205 yr 20 hours ago, urbanetics_ said: This is my first time hearing about this!?A new “dog park bar” coming soon to a Tremont. https://www.tapsandtailsdogbar.com/ Where is this going? I can’t find an address.
June 15, 20205 yr 32 minutes ago, marty15 said: Where is this going? I can’t find an address. I thought this looked familiar, so I did some exploring on Google Streets, and it looks like it's here on Willey near the APL: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4804518,-81.6971538,3a,58.5y,243.53h,77.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8fqlywwnYNuSxa4ZvzE8mQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
June 15, 20205 yr Just now, acd said: I thought this looked familiar, so I did some exploring on Google Streets, and it looks like it's here on Willey near the APL: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4804518,-81.6971538,3a,58.5y,243.53h,77.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8fqlywwnYNuSxa4ZvzE8mQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 Yup! My German Shepherd is going to be thrilled
June 17, 20204 yr On 6/14/2020 at 7:03 PM, infrafreak said: Looks like Terrestrial Brewing has some competition ? Was doing some work on the APL expansion project yesterday and got to see this location. I think this is gonna be really great, and finally bring activity down to Train Ave. There’s 2 old industrial buildings directly across the street that’d make perfect residential conversions, and with the sky high land prices in Tremont, maybe this could jump start that valley.
June 17, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, marty15 said: Was doing some work on the APL expansion project yesterday and got to see this location. I think this is gonna be really great, and finally bring activity down to Train Ave. There’s 2 old industrial buildings directly across the street that’d make perfect residential conversions, and with the sky high land prices in Tremont, maybe this could jump start that valley. The outfit doing this project, NexGen Cleveland Development, has an O-Zone project pending for the larger of the industrial buildings on Train Ave. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 18, 20204 yr Which is the later/final version of Electric Gardens? The developer and the architect are showing different renderings: Architect: https://www.ldaarchitecture.com/electric-gardens Developer (as given to cleveland.com): https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/06/tremonts-electric-gardens-development-moves-forward-with-nod-from-planning-commission.html
June 19, 20204 yr On 6/17/2020 at 5:43 PM, marty15 said: Was doing some work on the APL expansion project yesterday and got to see this location. I think this is gonna be really great, and finally bring activity down to Train Ave. There’s 2 old industrial buildings directly across the street that’d make perfect residential conversions, and with the sky high land prices in Tremont, maybe this could jump start that valley. If the conversions from Scranton Rd can spill over onto Train Ave, that is a pretty interesting gap to see become filled. Duck island is pretty geographically constrained...Ignoring nearby flats development, along with Metrohealth-spurred Clark-Fulton projects, it feels like the next gaps in the general area to fill will be north of Clark Ave...particularly that section of Train Ave & Willey, and the Fulton & Vega area.
June 19, 20204 yr Permit was just uploaded for the 4000 sq ft of 1901 Train that will be the dog park bar. I believe the building should be nearly filled up with that after which NextGen's business plan entails converting the 25k sq ft 1900 Train into a co-work space which they named "Innovo."
June 19, 20204 yr I am fascinated by the co-working push and the economics there and how they work as commercial tenants. I feel like there are so many of these spaces. Is the freelance/sole proprietor economy that strong? Co-working feels like the "put a bird on it" Portlandia kind of thing for the rust belt. It is awesome to see it taking off tho. And that is super exciting about Train Avenue coming to life. I was worried those buildings on the corner of Train and Wiley couldn't be salvaged.
June 19, 20204 yr 10 minutes ago, misterjoshr said: I am fascinated by the co-working push and the economics there and how they work as commercial tenants. I feel like there are so many of these spaces. Is the freelance/sole proprietor economy that strong? Co-working feels like the "put a bird on it" Portlandia kind of thing for the rust belt. It is awesome to see it taking off tho. And that is super exciting about Train Avenue coming to life. I was worried those buildings on the corner of Train and Wiley couldn't be salvaged. They seemed very aggressive in their original timeline which would have had it completed at the end of this month. Obviously COVID threw those plans off quite a bit. With a stable income from 1900 Train, they would be able to feel safer moving into it. And their co-work space would have offered subsidized rents to 20 small businesses. The hope is that though they would not be profiting from them, they would be enough to make the space lively in order to attract ~100 other users to the space.
June 19, 20204 yr FRIDAY, JUNE 19, 2020 Seeds & Sprouts VIII - Early intel on real estate projects Investors engineer Train Ave development Known in recent decades for freight trains and junkyards, the Walworth Run valley was actually one of Cleveland's first industrial districts 200 years ago. But investors are finding their way to properties along the valley and on Train Avenue which runs through it. The valley separates the booming Ohio City and Tremont neighborhoods. MOREhttps://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/06/seeds-sprouts-viii-early-intel-on-real.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 29, 20204 yr On 5/7/2020 at 1:06 PM, tykaps said: Building permit was filed online today for an 8 unit micro apartment building at 2270 W 14th St by MRN. 2 stories and a total 4800 sq ft. Plans for this have gradually been altered with advice from different meetings. I apologise for the livestream quality. And what a massive improvement. Beautiful. Here's from the Landmarks meeting Thursday where it was approved:
June 29, 20204 yr Not what I'd call beautiful but it's a marked improvement from the initial revisions, which were awful. I'll give credit where it's due. Landmark and local design review pushed for many of the changes. Looks good, given where they started. Edited June 29, 20204 yr by Mendo
June 29, 20204 yr 6 hours ago, tykaps said: Plans for this have gradually been altered with advice from different meetings. I apologise for the livestream quality. And what a massive improvement. Beautiful. Here's from the Landmarks meeting Thursday where it was approved: Idk why this wasn't the design for Ashbury. This would have fit in much better with those brick apartments that surrounds it. Plus A FRONT ENTRANCE. WOOOOOOW Let me clarify. This isn't an architectural marvel by any means but it definitely looks better than the Ashbury Avenue variant. Edited June 30, 20204 yr by MyPhoneDead
June 30, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, w28th said: MRN is really putting some garbage projects out there. If you can't say anything nice....ok, nice knowing ya, w28th! ? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 30, 20204 yr 13 hours ago, Pugu said: ^What did the original design look like? Probably not the original but here was the version presented to Landmark in early June. Edited June 30, 20204 yr by Mendo
June 30, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, Mendo said: Probably not the original but here was the version presented to Landmark in early June. That is the original
June 30, 20204 yr Hmm. Thanks. Its not too much better, but a little bit I guess. Looking at the earlier version, I I thought there was a Starbucks on the corner, which I liked, then realized its only a green awning that says something other than "Starbucks".
July 3, 20204 yr On 6/30/2020 at 12:07 AM, KJP said: If you can't say anything nice....ok, nice knowing ya, w28th! ? Ha, well, we all have a responsibility to ensure that our built environment represents places that people want to live and visit. I don't need to tell you this KJP, you can probably explain it better than me, but there are an abundance of studies that show that people live and travel to places where they built environment is of high aesthetic value.
July 3, 20204 yr Yep, I like to rag on w28th because he invariably met a project he didn't like. ? And since architecture is art, if we ask 100 people about a design, we'll probably get a 100 different answers. So I don't get too hung up design except in terms of its context, relationship to the street/sidewalk, extent and location of parking, quality of materials, etc. BTW, I don't disagree with w28th about Rick Maron's projects or the designs. But that's what you get when you don't want to pay architects. Wait until you see what he's planning next, this time in Larchmere.... Edited July 5, 20204 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 12, 20204 yr ^ Thanks for posting that. Odd this the first time we've seen the final design for this. It's even different than the renderings on LDA's website which I posted a couple pages back. And what went through the planning commission was never posted online. Looks great though. Probably the best of the revisions we've seen.
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