November 15, 20186 yr the site also includes the westtown tire site. the corner across from the Wagner parking lot will become townhomes to further bring alive the street front. not sure what aesthetically one would realistically want for new construction other then an iron spot brick that plays off of Wagner and is softened by warm wood. but alas...
November 16, 20186 yr I didn't know about it taking the unkempt Westown Tire biz. Glad to hear that. Same for the townhouses. Didn't know about those either. Good news! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 28, 20186 yr I suppose this is Tremont and not Duck Island (or Scranton Peninsula!!)... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 23, 20196 yr 8 hours ago, Eastside said: @Mendo any updates on the Ferry Cap & Screw site? Sorry I don't have any insider info about the site. The owners WXZ Development are likely busy with the College Club apartments and townhomes in Cleveland Heights. The Ferry Cap and Screw site isn't even mentioned in their "coming soon" page. http://www.wxzdevelopment.com/residential/for-sale.html Visually there isn't anything to see. Last time I drove over there the sewer district still had construction equipment on the northern part of the site, likely still working on the pump/drainage project.
January 24, 20196 yr On 11/28/2018 at 4:13 PM, KJP said: I suppose this is Tremont and not Duck Island (or Scranton Peninsula!!)... Where is everyone? no people no cars? is it on a dead end street?
January 24, 20196 yr ^There usually aren't too many people hanging around an active construction site unless they are doing the actual work, lol. Edited January 24, 20196 yr by jeremyck01
January 24, 20196 yr The only thing in that direction along Scranton is a fairly desolate industrial valley (Walworth Run) and Scranton Peninsula, also a desolate old industrial area. It's usually pretty quiet and feels isolated from surrounding neighborhoods.
January 24, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, BigMacky said: Ok thanks...fair enough. good to have some new residential going in then! I belong to Tremont Athletic Club, whose parking lot is directly across the street from these in the old Fairmont Creamery building - that corner is active when the gym is active, other than that, not so much - there used to be a pizza shop at an adjacent corner, but that has closed in recent years. The APA and TAC are the only thing going on in that enclave.
January 24, 20196 yr The building that's just north is home to an addiction services organization, but can't say I've ever seen many people around. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 25, 20196 yr 23 hours ago, YABO713 said: I belong to Tremont Athletic Club, whose parking lot is directly across the street from these in the old Fairmont Creamery building - that corner is active when the gym is active, other than that, not so much - there used to be a pizza shop at an adjacent corner, but that has closed in recent years. The APA and TAC are the only thing going on in that enclave. Before it was Pizza Pan it was the Silver Fox, which one can assume was a strip club for men with mature tastes. That said, it's a testament to the market for expensive condos that this project is going up between a welding shop and a heroin treatment facility within a couple hundred feet of the highway.
January 25, 20196 yr Hey All, it appears sustainable communities is going to be busy over the next couple of years. This one has quietly slipped under our radar. Check out Wagner Awning's Facebook post from January 21st. About 2 posts down their page. Looks beautiful!
January 25, 20196 yr I like Bialosky's stuff for the most part. I don't like that ground floor brick they're proposing. It's....standoffish?
January 25, 20196 yr 27 minutes ago, surfohio said: I like Bialosky's stuff for the most part. I don't like that ground floor brick they're proposing. It's....standoffish? I think it's a wood-like finish with horizontal slats, not brick.
January 25, 20196 yr Really? I think I need a larger monitor lol. I still don't like the shrubs. Even the trees look placed to cover up how bland and lifeless the ground floor is looking.
January 25, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, surfohio said: Really? I think I need a larger monitor lol. I still don't like the shrubs. Even the trees look placed to cover up how bland and lifeless the ground floor is looking. it is wood (not wood like). the idea is it softens the brick. I posted some images of the blending of the materials here. not exact but gives you the idea
January 25, 20196 yr I think it looks good. Given the weak market for retail and realistic parking needs, ground floors are always going to be a challenge for multifamily buildings outside of downtown with a lot of frontage.
January 25, 20196 yr @staphanger - that is the issue. I've seen a fairly decent office market but there the parking needs are intense. retail is tough. we are sinking a lot of resources into this bakery - it isn't exactly a market for new con retail. My hope is the retail fills in and around us
January 25, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, misterjoshr said: @staphanger - that is the issue. I've seen a fairly decent office market but there the parking needs are intense. retail is tough. we are sinking a lot of resources into this bakery - it isn't exactly a market for new con retail. Much appreciated. Wishing you guys get some good business.
February 9, 20196 yr update: https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/02/tremont-project-the-tappan-would-include-apartments-first-floor-bakery-on-scranton-road.html
February 9, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, misterjoshr said: update: https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/02/tremont-project-the-tappan-would-include-apartments-first-floor-bakery-on-scranton-road.html Projects like this are showing the potential offered by Opportunity Zone funding to do good things for our neighborhoods, not just downtown. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 10, 20196 yr @misterjoshrJosh, is the affordability in your project something you guys are doing on your own, or is it a requirement of one of your financing sources? Are there tax credits in this? I think this is an awesome project.
February 10, 20196 yr we are actually doing it on our own. it isn't required by any of the financing. that said, our lender is investing o-zone dollars at a reduced rate, which frees up the cash flow enough to lower the rents some on a good chunk of these units. typical financing would not allow us to do this, especially with ground up construction. hopefully more people can utilize ozone equity this way and thank you. I appreciate it. this financing has allowed us to be more creative then I think traditional lending would have allowed and I am excited to see how it turns out Edited February 10, 20196 yr by misterjoshr
February 12, 20196 yr More graphics above and at: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/02152019/index.php NW2018-034 - The Tappan Mixed-Use Building New Construction: Seeking Final Approval Project Address: 1633 Auburn Avenue Project Representative: David Craun, Bialosky Cleveland "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 13, 20196 yr On 1/25/2019 at 11:09 AM, YO to the CLE said: Hey All, it appears sustainable communities is going to be busy over the next couple of years. This one has quietly slipped under our radar. Check out Wagner Awning's Facebook post from January 21st. About 2 posts down their page. Looks beautiful! This was discussed in Nov., one page back.
February 28, 20196 yr From the March, 2019 edition of "Inside Tremont" in the block club meeting minutes: "JROC and D Geronimo companies have come together to create a new residential and commercial space to be called Electric Gardens. Electric Gardens will occupy a 2 acre plot of land on the far eastern edge of Tremont, between Bergen Village and the towpath. Current zoning is general industrial with 115 feet height permitted and for the following uses: General industrial, manufacturing, parking garages, and warehouses. JROC presented examples of prior projects they've been involved with, including, Tremont Black, The Shoreway, Tremont North, and Cyan Park. Electric Gardens will have the following features, one approved: 58 foot height - Block Club recommendation is 35 ft; 100-150 rental units; 35 surface parking spots + 85 garage parking spots; 8,000 sq ft of commercial space."
February 28, 20196 yr Interesting. This is DiGeronimo's second potential project I've heard about along the west edge of the Cuyahoga Valley. And their first isn't Valor Acres in Brecksville, which I don't consider west west edge of the valley. I think this Tremont project might be a test for a much larger project.... Edited February 28, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 28, 20196 yr Hmmm....there aren't many sites in the city along the west edge of the valley that could hold a "much" larger project. Maybe the Lutheran Hospital lots? Otherwise we're talking someplace in the suburbs, Brooklyn Hts., Independence or south. But how would a project in Tremont be a test for a project in the suburbs?
February 28, 20196 yr The other site I'm referring to isn't in the suburbs. It's in the city. DiGeronimo has no experience developing in the city that I'm aware of. The Tremont project, and working with experienced Cleveland developer J-ROC, would give them that experience. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 28, 20196 yr 10 hours ago, KJP said: Interesting. This is DiGeronimo's second potential project I've heard about along the west edge of the Cuyahoga Valley. And their first isn't Valor Acres in Brecksville, which I don't consider west west edge of the valley. I think this Tremont project might be a test for a much larger project.... Taking over the brickman site perhaps....
February 28, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, RMB said: Taking over the brickman site perhaps.... That's another developer. ? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 28, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, KJP said: That's another developer. ? KJP...it has been a while since you informed us that a new developer is taking over the Brickman site. Any reason why they are taking so long to identify themselves (and even better give us a conceptual rendering to drool over)?
February 28, 20196 yr Yes, it's been a while since I've heard from that source, too. I can only speculate as to why. The last I'd heard is that the developer, unlike others, doesn't talk publicly about a potential project until that project is at a 90 percent level of pre-development work. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 28, 20196 yr ^That is actually kind of a refreshing business model. We all know the frustration of seeing pretty pictures from a developer and then three years later we find out they have not even secured the site. I really hope their definition of "pre-development" includes securing all financing.
February 28, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Htsguy said: ^That is actually kind of a refreshing business model. We all know the frustration of seeing pretty pictures from a developer and then three years later we find out they have not even secured the site. I really hope their definition of "pre-development" includes securing all financing. It probably does. The developer has been getting a lot of financing from East Coast investors lately. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 2, 20196 yr On 2/27/2019 at 9:34 PM, X said: From the March, 2019 edition of "Inside Tremont" in the block club meeting minutes: "JROC and D Geronimo companies have come together to create a new residential and commercial space to be called Electric Gardens. Electric Gardens will occupy a 2 acre plot of land on the far eastern edge of Tremont, between Bergen Village and the towpath. Current zoning is general industrial with 115 feet height permitted and for the following uses: General industrial, manufacturing, parking garages, and warehouses. JROC presented examples of prior projects they've been involved with, including, Tremont Black, The Shoreway, Tremont North, and Cyan Park. Electric Gardens will have the following features, one approved: 58 foot height - Block Club recommendation is 35 ft; 100-150 rental units; 35 surface parking spots + 85 garage parking spots; 8,000 sq ft of commercial space." Update...... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3137&CASE=NW 2019-005 ELECTRIC GARDENS Return to Case List | Start Over | Print Report (PDF format) Project Information Near West Case # NW 2019-005 Address:West 4th Street Company:J Roc Development Architect: Description: Proposed new contruction multi-family building adjacent to the towpath trail. Notes: Committee Actions/Submissions Date:March 22, 2019 Committee:Staff Action Type:Initial Plan Submission Conditions/Notes: Date:March 27, 2019 Committee:Local Design Review Committee Action Type:Tabled Conditions: The project was tabled for conceptual approval with the following conditions to proceed: Develop a conceptual elevation of the building from the Towpath trail Develop a conceptual elevation of the building from Literary Ave Present proposals that screen the garage from the Towpath trail Identify current and potential future pedestrian connections to trails and right-of-ways Consider splitting the building to break up the mass "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 2, 20196 yr https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/tremont-residents-demand-better-construction-site-clean-up-and-enforcement Quote That might get some action, because there is too much construction going on in Tremont. ? In all honesty, there is a valid point in there but gets lost in the nimby rant. Edited April 2, 20196 yr by viscomi
April 3, 20196 yr 16 hours ago, viscomi said: ? In all honesty, there is a valid point in there but gets lost in the nimby rant. Not in anyone's backyard is the answer when it comes to sloppy work and disrespect of the neighborhood. In this case, those nimbys speak for all law-abiding neighborhood-loving Clevelanders who don't deserve to be walked on. No person interviewed for this story complained about development, but rather about the trash and poor site management of Tremont developers. Edited April 3, 20196 yr by ExPatClevGuy
April 3, 20196 yr 10 hours ago, ExPatClevGuy said: Not in anyone's backyard is the answer when it comes to sloppy work and disrespect of the neighborhood. In this case, those nimbys speak for all law-abiding neighborhood-loving Clevelanders who don't deserve to be walked on. Let me be clear..I agree there should be a little more city oversight of the state of active construction sites in our neighborhoods. However, some of these people came across as anti new development and would complain no matter what about any new construction. Construction sites are dirty, it's not ideal. The sidewalks are going to be tore up. The street is going to be tore up where they tie in water infrastructure and wont be fully paved over until their done with the project. There's going to be unslightly dumpsters and piles of needed construction materials on the tree lawns. I don't know the state of the particular site(s) from the article but im well aware of the overall situation. My ~1000ft street in OC has 5 active construction sites! I make due. Walk in the street and ask the workers to move stuff when needed (they have all been extremely accomidating, given the circumstances) And after previously finishing two other single family houses, everything is returned to normal. There's going to be growing pains and the city Should respond for reassurance to the current residents. But we should not be trying to actively slow/stop development becuase its messy (tax abatement discussion aside)
April 25, 20196 yr j-Roc development is going before city planning for schematic approval for Electric Gardens, the 4/5 story apartment building proposed along Literary behind Bergen Village. The design looks early so I assume there is a lot of refinement left to do. http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/04262019/index.php
April 25, 20196 yr 24 minutes ago, Mendo said: j-Roc development is going before city planning for schematic approval for Electric Gardens, the 4/5 story apartment building proposed along Literary behind Bergen Village. The design looks early so I assume there is a lot of refinement left to do. http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/04262019/index.php Hopefully "a lot" are the operative two words.
April 25, 20196 yr That design may well be in response to those who complain that all recent apartment buildings were beginning to look the same. If so, that's what they get for complaining.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 25, 20196 yr Tough crowd. I'd take this over the Hough-Ansel renderings in the UC thread. I love the floor to ceiling windows.
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