1 hour ago, MyPhoneDead said:

It looks like they have unfortunately begun finishing the Gas station redevelopment project at 14th and Clark. New steel framing is up and some concrete is laid.

Isn’t this the one that at least has the store front built to the sidewalk?

Not sure if this will be the final product - this is what was submitted back in the day. 

32 minutes ago, MayDay said:

Not sure if this will be the final product - this is what was submitted back in the day. 

That's not terrible but with 3 gas stations in walking distance we could've went without this. But this is better than the previous gas station here. 

22 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said:

That's not terrible but with 3 gas stations in walking distance we could've went without this. But this is better than the previous gas station here. 

 

Agreed. I wouldn't be mad if every urban gas station looked like this, though.

Doesn't look too bad there, but wait until all the lottery, beer, and tobacco signs get plastered all over the windows.

3 hours ago, JohnSummit said:

Doesn't look too bad there, but wait until all the lottery, beer, and tobacco signs get plastered all over the windows.

Looks good in this brochure but hopefully it is not 24 hours as the pumps and parking don't seem visible from the street intersection - particulary if it is an area in need critical Po-Po attention.  Hopefully it is a peaceful Mayberry-like area with no street take-over meet ups or other only-at-night unholy shanningans that occur in some other areas.

 

https://cohencommercialgroup.com/propertypdf/Brochure- Cleveland; 3074 W. 14th Street.pdf

 

21 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said:

It looks like they have unfortunately begun finishing the Gas station redevelopment project at 14th and Clark. New steel framing is up and some concrete is laid.

Wasn't this the more urban-designed gas station with its pumps hidden behind the building that abuts the sidewalk? While gas stations are generally a negative, this one wouldn't be so ugly. 

Got these from Ken Goldberg on FB. 
A Driftwood update!!

 

36 minutes ago, GREGinPARMA said:

A Driftwood update!!

 

 

 

 

Guys, we got so distracted by Bridgeworks that we didn't even notice the de-yassified LaQuinta going up down the street! They even barricaded the windows for extra security 🙃

1 hour ago, GREGinPARMA said:

Got these from Ken Goldberg on FB. 
A Driftwood update!!

 

That area is so different since I lived there. Lived right by Southside.

11 hours ago, JB said:

That area is so different since I lived there. Lived right by Southside.

The vertical fencing for the sidewalk adjacent ground floor patio units is unique. The color of the wood is kinda drab - looks like driftwood- but it should deter patio furniture thefts. 

54 minutes ago, Willo said:

The vertical fencing for the sidewalk adjacent ground floor patio units is unique. The color of the wood is kinda drab - looks like driftwood- but it should deter patio furniture thefts. 

 

I don't hate it, mostly being dramatic about the colors and choice of patio fencing for an especially high end building. On the one hand I'm sure they make for interesting spaces, but on the other I can't help myself from seeing a towering wooden fence against the sidewalk.

 

Maybe with a little bit of weathering the colors will even out. And of course anything is better than a vacant lot.

This is a quality development in my mind.  Lets do another one on the vacant land across the street.

8 hours ago, sonisharri said:

 

I don't hate it, mostly being dramatic about the colors and choice of patio fencing for an especially high end building. On the one hand I'm sure they make for interesting spaces, but on the other I can't help myself from seeing a towering wooden fence against the sidewalk.

 

Maybe with a little bit of weathering the colors will even out. And of course anything is better than a vacant lot.

It is growing on me as an alternative to the typical PVC patio fencing and is a modern privacy solution to having a patio door opening directly on a very urban sidewalk that will bring the good and bad right to your window 24/7. This may be one of those floorplans -

https://live-driftwood.com/apartments/125

 

Edited November 14, 2024Nov 14 by Willo

On 11/3/2024 at 3:24 PM, MyPhoneDead said:

That's not terrible but with 3 gas stations in walking distance we could've went without this. But this is better than the previous gas station here. 

 

On the surface agreed, but after learning that no female friends of mine feel safe going to any west side gas station at night, I can't help but think that we could use some new approaches. The three within walking distance of here are all pretty seedy. 

there are no good gas stations in the city. one good sheetz in steelyard would drive 3 or four west side gas stations out of business.

 

14th connects 71 to 90. there is a lot of rush hour traffic at that intersection 

Edited November 18, 2024Nov 18 by Whipjacka

Get a Wawa in here and no one would get gas anywhere else in the city!!**

**absolutely non-bias take from a former east coaster

1 hour ago, dwolfi01 said:

Get a Wawa in here and no one would get gas anywhere else in the city!!**

**absolutely non-bias take from a former east coaster

We used to feel same way but the wheels seem to falling off the brand since the  Covid era or so.  They even had to close some in Center City Philly (their home town) due to theft and store takeovers and even ones in dc/b-more burbs seem dirty.  Sheetz convert now.

3 hours ago, Whipjacka said:

there are no good gas stations in the city. one good sheetz in steelyard would drive 3 or four west side gas stations out of business.

 

14th connects 71 to 90. there is a lot of rush hour traffic at that intersection 

But have you had the sandwiches from Ohio City Gas?  they are delightful and Sheets could never

34 minutes ago, TDi said:

But have you had the sandwiches from Ohio City Gas?  they are delightful and Sheets could never

Do they have a sign in the window that says "Eat Here and Get Gas"?

Wawa or Sheetz would never build at Steelyard because it would take 5-10 minutes to get off the freeway and another 5-10 minutes to get back on the freeway after buying gas.

On 11/13/2024 at 9:59 AM, Willo said:

The vertical fencing for the sidewalk adjacent ground floor patio units is unique. The color of the wood is kinda drab - looks like driftwood- but it should deter patio furniture thefts. 

The name of the project is literally, The Driftwood.

Pace Cafe is finally open at 2670 West 14th Street

 

Pace Café opens in Tremont with local, organic food and raw juice options (photos)

Published: Jan. 02, 2025, 8:49 a.m.

By Paris Wolfe, cleveland.com

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio --Ameen Khadair and Sabrina Quinones are bringing a new organic kitchen concept to Cleveland’s Tremont neighborhood. Pace Café, which launched in late 2024, is open for breakfast and lunch, serving organic, locally sourced options. The menu revolves around its handmade bagels and Middle Eastern-inspired items.

 

Clean eating is not new to Khadair, who owns three-year-old Socially Raw juice company. Socially Raw, which opened on January 1, 2022, follows the old milkman delivery model. Only instead of dairy products, Socially Raw delivers glass bottles of fresh juice products to homes once per week.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2025/01/pace-cafe-opens-in-tremont-with-local-organic-food-and-raw-juice-options-photos.html

19 minutes ago, MuRrAy HiLL said:

Pace Cafe is finally open at 2670 West 14th Street

 

Pace as in speed or as in a foreign word for peace?  The articles about it never say.

5 hours ago, Dougal said:

 

Pace as in speed or as in a foreign word for peace?  The articles about it never say.

 

pace yourself. it will come out in time. 😂🎉

Looks like they broke ground on the Treehouse Apartments. 

 

 

They're actually still demolishing the neighboring buildings and removing their foundations. 

5 hours ago, ASP1984 said:

Looks like they broke ground on the Treehouse Apartments. 

 

 

Treehouse balconies by Geis?  Sorry Bridgeworks.

9 hours ago, Willo said:

Treehouse balconies by Geis?  Sorry Bridgeworks.

Looks like they took some inspiration from Sustainable’s nearby builds, and that’s a great thing.  

Snapped a couple pictures.  Maybe this will put the sunoco out of business when people see a much better option across the street and then we can see his lot developed?

 

I worked for that guy a couple years ago and between the illegal use of international student labor, illegal fireworks, counterfeit products and products specifically and only used to cut street drugs with sold there it can't be that hard to shut down if it comes down to it damnit..

you live over there? I used to be on 14 and holmden.  the sunoco stinks, the BP is okay - the dude is nice.  one safe, bright, nice convince/corner store in that area would put several places out of business

that sunoco is definitely wild. made the mistake of tanking up there and felt like i was interdimensionally transported onto a Hollywood movie set with all the characters and shenanigans who were seemingly constantly rotating through for the 5 minutes or whatever it took to filler up. not entirely unpleasant but i didn't feel like pressing my luck.

8 hours ago, Whipjacka said:

you live over there? I used to be on 14 and holmden.  the sunoco stinks, the BP is okay - the dude is nice.  one safe, bright, nice convince/corner store in that area would put several places out of business

Live and work!

It's been fun seeing all the progress in tremont proper I'd like the Clark end of town to get some love ASAP

Was chatting with someone at a party today. A friend of my good friend. Telling me how this guy she’s dating in Tremont doesn’t work. That he owns over 20 cars that he rents on Turo. They’re all parked around Lincoln Park when not in use. 
 

So this is a problem I didn’t know we had. NIMBYs fight housing developments over parking issues. But this stuff is going on.

18 minutes ago, marty15 said:

Was chatting with someone at a party today. A friend of my good friend. Telling me how this guy she’s dating in Tremont doesn’t work. That he owns over 20 cars that he rents on Turo. They’re all parked around Lincoln Park when not in use. 
 

So this is a problem I didn’t know we had. NIMBYs fight housing developments over parking issues. But this stuff is going on.

 

I guess "build it and they will come" applies to parking too. Just because it's used doesn't necessarily mean it's necessary.

11 hours ago, marty15 said:

Was chatting with someone at a party today. A friend of my good friend. Telling me how this guy she’s dating in Tremont doesn’t work. That he owns over 20 cars that he rents on Turo. They’re all parked around Lincoln Park when not in use. 
 

So this is a problem I didn’t know we had. NIMBYs fight housing developments over parking issues. But this stuff is going on.

What a business model!  And when the renter turns the car, it's on them to find it a legal parking space.  Brilliant. 

9 hours ago, Cleburger said:

What a business model!  And when the renter turns the car, it's on them to find it a legal parking space.  Brilliant. 

Never heard of Turo until the New Orleans and Vegas vehicle terror incidents.

I looked at them when I was trying to go carless here, I was probably looking my at this dude's cars because they were around Lincoln Park. the rates were crazy though so I just bussed it until I couldn't stand it anymore.

New development at 2915 W 14th -- 12 single family homes, replacing 3 large existing houses.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/j0jzgqrlo0sx73kuhp4bw/AMJQPGrzPvIYG8n0zQr8a5g/2025-01-06_2915 W14th_-11x17-CONCEPT.pdf?rlkey=27llwjbduu0wm8q8gn16cgn2e&e=1&st=uysqti0t&bmus=1&dl=0

 

NW2024-034 – 2915 W 14th Residential
Project Address: 2915 W 14th Street
Type: New Construction; 12-units
Project Representative: Gram Post; Sixmo

 

 

 

yuck

id be much happier if they were more natural looking finishes. Plastic white and grey just arent doing it for me and it seems a shame to be losing these homes since this street has so many great looking ones.

I live in the CMHA building immediately adjacent and since its no longer senior living/disabled its gotten some seriously seedy people in here.

I do hope we dont end up pushed out in the future because moving to tremont has been the best thing thats ever happened to me. 

Edited January 15Jan 15 by FutureboyWonder

These proposed buildings are so ugly and absolutely don't fit with the surrounding homes on the street.  There's nothing wrong with the existing homes so what gives?  I know I'm in the minority here but all these enormous and ugly apartment buildings / condos / monstrosities have ruined Tremont.  I don't even recognize my neighborhood anymore.  

This looks like it hasn't been priced by any contractor - each of these would cost $800,000 or more to build. Every imaginable type of roof, undersized windows in odd places, six-story elevators, seven total bathrooms in each house! Can't wait to see what they list for or what actually gets built. 

I am more curious how the demo of the three buildings will go over at PC.  From the outside they don't look as though they are in particularly bad condition, but who knows what lurks inside.

On 9/10/2024 at 7:04 PM, cfdwarrior said:

That video was garbage IMO.  I had never, not once in my career, heard about the FD demanding wider streets because of our big trucks.  Cleveland, for the most part, has decent sized streets.  Areas like Tremont, Little Italy, parts of the E.55 St Clair, and some West side neighborhoods are tightly packed...but we were always able to get to the fires.  Boston, NYC, Baltimore and Philly as well.  Also, the author failed to mention the amount of equipment we carry on our engines, trucks, and heavy rescues.  Our trucks may be bigger, but we don't need as many to respond to bring specialized equipment.  I could go on and on...but this isn't old grumpy fireman forum!  :)

That could be because of lobbying years ago to embed the requirements in the zoning code or statewide street design requirements, or it could be that this is more of a problem in cities other than Cleveland.  Cleveland streets, even in the most tightly packed areas, might still be wider than the streets in some old European cities -- it's all relative.  I think the overall point being made on that website is that we should be designing cities for bikes and pedestrians that too much of the focus in our cities is on making room for cars -- and on that I agree.

A few things regarding the 2915 West 14th development:

• Years ago, the section of Tremont south of 490 was proposed to be included in the Historic District, but residents voted it down. The general sentiment from many long-termers was "don't tell me what to do with my house". And look at how that's starting to play out. Not that it would necessarily prevent these homes being torn down and replaced with the proposed dreck, but who knows at this point.
   
• As a nearby resident, the homes proposed for demolition may "look fine" from the outside and might very well be in great shape, but I'm willing to bet that's not 100% the case. More than a few of the similarly-sized homes along West 14th (most built between 1890-1910) were converted to multi-family, reworked or redone to the point the historic character was irreparably damaged or removed. For all I know these might be historically pristine inside but again, guessing that's not the case. Also, while not an apples to apples comparison to the historic homes like mine - as @Jukeboxer alluded to, I'm selfishly curious about the pricing.
   
• Speaking of dreck - I get the notion of breaking up the bulk of the facade with different materials but these just look so haphazardly thrown together. It's the same firm that designed these and while that approach isn't exactly my taste, it's less helter-skelter.

19 hours ago, One_Such said:

These proposed buildings are so ugly and absolutely don't fit with the surrounding homes on the street.  There's nothing wrong with the existing homes so what gives?  I know I'm in the minority here but all these enormous and ugly apartment buildings / condos / monstrosities have ruined Tremont.  I don't even recognize my neighborhood anymore.  

I don’t recognize Tremont anymore either. For decades, it was crime ridden, and known for arson for profit.

In the minority it seems, but I really like these townhomes.

10 minutes ago, bwheats said:

In the minority it seems, but I really like these townhomes.

I'll join the minority dissent.   I like them as well.  They look like something you might see in a smaller town in Germany.  

56 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

I'll join the minority dissent.   I like them as well.  They look like something you might see in a smaller town in Germany.  

 

Same, I'd kill to have these on my street. I totally understand wanting to save old homes from demolition but these are not the ones to focus on. There are literally hundreds of historically and architecturally unique houses in Fairfax, Glenville, Hough, etc. in constant disrepair and definitely tons around the near west side.

 

With demand to live in Tremont soaring, building new housing stock is a necessary tradeoff to mitigate the displacement of longtime residents. I imagine that other neighborhoods will become the new hotspots soon enough, once Tremont is mostly "built out."