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  • marty15
    marty15

    My favorite building in the city is finally getting the love it needed.

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    misterjoshr

    for the corner of scranton and willey.  

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Just ran across this one as well...corner lot of Thurman and W10 low to mid 400's and $60k for the lot.

 

http://www.trulia.com/property/3086259096-2083-W-10th-St-Cleveland-OH-44113

 

Pretty funky design!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Is that the wooden/eco-friendly looking home?  It belongs to the CEO of St. Vincent Charity. I was under the impression he built that.

Yes that was the case as well.  Although I thought it was a surgion from the Clinic..  Ill be next door this weekend and will find out!

 

I thought I remembered reading that the builder just wanted to build a contemporary home knowing someone would buy it. It had a for sale sign for quite some time and only has been occupied within the last 2 weeks. The name Perse does sound familiar though.

 

No, it's been occupied since this fall.  The sign outside was a building company's sign.

Also, 2 new homes are planned for W. 7th, on the block between University and Literary.  They are went to the block clubs recently.

Also, just a thought, but I wonder if with land in Tremont becoming so scarce, if it would be worth it for a developer to rebuild W. 4th st, on the slope just below W. 5th, in order to create a bunch of new building sites.

 

edit: the ROW is still there, and most of the frontage lots are owned by the Baltimore and Ohio RR Company.  Any insights, KJP?  Some is also owned by the City Land Bank, and some assorted private owners.

edit: the ROW is still there, and most of the frontage lots are owned by the Baltimore and Ohio RR Company.  Any insights, KJP? 

 

Between West 3rd and West 4th streets, the B&O had an interchange yard there with the Erie Railroad called Literary Street Yard -- named after the location where the B&O met the Erie RR. There is some talk of CVSR using this right of way as one of its options to reach downtown, or at least a portion of it for rail/river station located between Quigley Avenue and Mary Avenue where CVSR trains could interchange with the Goodtime III, Nautica Queen and the Jet Express.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I walk my dog on that portion of West 4th and am pretty sure that the plan is to use the old right-of way for the towpath trail. Work has already started with gas monitoring wells and a semi-bulldozed path.

 

There is a rail path between 4th and 3rd with an underpass below Jefferson. It's completely overgrown.

Speaking of new housing in the neighborhood, I've seen some renderings in Tremont Near West's office on a site at W5th and Marquart.  From what I've heard they are working with a firm on developing a protype house that could be built throughout the neighborhood on land bank lots.  Could be interesting.

Also, 2 more homes planned for the vacant lots at the corner of Thurman and College. 

 

"Buildable lots in Tremont: get 'em while you can!"

  • 3 weeks later...

Anyone know what's going on with this property?

 

CLEVELAND LANDMARK NOMINATION

Fairmont Creamery

2306 West 17th Street

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2013/01102013/index.php

 

Property records show the parcel was sold last September by Great American Properties Corp to DONALD F. DICKSON, then by quit-claim deed to DONALD F. DICKSON TRUSTEE two days later.

 

Might a new owner be seeking tax credits to renovate the building? There are many pictures of the building available at the link above. Here are a few of them.....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

There was been rumblings about this for a couple of years. I don't know the details, but I 've heard enough where I feel this is happening sooner rather than later. Apartments.

 

Tons of other things being proposed on the near west side. Some will happen, some won't. But with the market the way it is, I'd say that we'll see a lot of new small to mid-scale projects happening in the next couple of years. And everyone seems to be hiring Dimit..

I'm pretty sure there is someone on this board involved to some degree with that project and they posted about it somewhere.

 

Edit: Here it is; just one page back

 

My group (www.sustainableca.com) is planning a significant project here.  We have site control.    It is @ the old Fairmont Creamery site.  You can find pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/87420731@N04/sets/  I'll post more info as we go along but I thought I'd drop the news now

Great news! Thanks for helping me put the pieces together to understand it.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Yeah, my partners and I are taking on this rehab.  The plan is for 30 or so rental apartments, appx 15,000 square feet of commercial/office and parking on the lower two floors (from 17th street to the bottom of the hill it is a 5 story building).  The views overlooking downtown and the valley should be really fantastic.  We are especially excited about seeing Wiley Avenue become a well-used link between Tremont and OC and the plans for the towpath expansion on Train avenue.  We're going after state and federal historic tax credits and hope to be under construction by December of 2014.  Today we were officially declared a landmark by the City of Cleveland.    I'll get around to making a new web site soon but background on us is @ www.sustainableca.com.  We just finished a project in Oberlin and are psyched to be working in Cleveland.  I live in the Tremont neighborhood. 

Terrific! Congrats on getting the landmark designation. Thanks for keeping us posted.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

December 2014?  I am unfamiliar with the process, does it really take two years to secure tax credits and get rolling?

typo on my end.  construction december 13 and open december 14.

typo on my end.  construction december 13 and open december 14.

That old building has some potential. Any renderings or site plans yet, or holding off until closer to construction?

typo on my end.  construction december 13 and open december 14.

Exciting to hear, good luck!

  • 2 weeks later...

Plans for a promising-sounding new bar in the Gospel Press building:

 

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/features/willhollingsworth012413.aspx?utm_source=VerticalResponse&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=more+than+a+few+words+with+will+hollingsworth%2c+builder+of+the+perfect+bar&utm_content={Email_Address}&utm_campaign=Primed+for+Growth%2c+Built+to+Last

 

Located on the lower-level of the Tremont Place Lofts at W. 7th and Jefferson, formerly the Union Gospel Press building, The Spotted Owl aims to take its place among the world's most venerable watering holes.

 

Given block club approval -- and more than a little construction -- the bar will open this summer.

Plans for a promising-sounding new bar in the Gospel Press building:

 

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/features/willhollingsworth012413.aspx?utm_source=VerticalResponse&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=more+than+a+few+words+with+will+hollingsworth%2c+builder+of+the+perfect+bar&utm_content={Email_Address}&utm_campaign=Primed+for+Growth%2c+Built+to+Last

 

Located on the lower-level of the Tremont Place Lofts at W. 7th and Jefferson, formerly the Union Gospel Press building, The Spotted Owl aims to take its place among the world's most venerable watering holes.

 

Given block club approval -- and more than a little construction -- the bar will open this summer.

 

Wow, what a strangely contradictory interview!

 

Should be interesting though. Love that building. I bet this place will be hugely popular.

Sounds like it will be a cool place but I could not get a grasp on what point he was trying to get across with regards to the "ideal bar."

Sounds like it will be a cool place but I could not get a grasp on what point he was trying to get across with regards to the "ideal bar."

 

Right. Unclear. It sorta sounded like he was thinking out loud with his answers. Either that or his interview was poorly or overly edited down. That's happened to me.

The Spotted Owl sounds like it will be a great addition!  I'm actually really excited to hear this news because my wife and I are in the process of buying a home right across from Tremont Place Lofts and this sounds exactly like the type of bar we like to frequent.

The Spotted Owl sounds like it will be a great addition!  I'm actually really excited to hear this news because my wife and I are in the process of buying a home right across from Tremont Place Lofts and this sounds exactly like the type of bar we like to frequent.

 

Best wishes with the house! I have the feeling that this place will be a lot like XYZ in Detroit-Shoreway.

Sounds like it will be a cool place but I could not get a grasp on what point he was trying to get across with regards to the "ideal bar."

 

Right. Unclear. It sorta sounded like he was thinking out loud with his answers. Either that or his interview was poorly or overly edited down. That's happened to me.

 

They printed the answers, but not the questions.

There was a public meeting this evening at Our Lady of Angels/St Joseph on Fairmount Creamery's rehab proposal and a possible Scranton Road historic designation to make rehab projects eligible for tax credits.

 

Michelle Jarboe was covering this meeting as she tweeted updates from it, including a mild complaint about Councilman Cimperman "outing" her at the meeting! :) @joecimperman Sheesh! I need to find a disguise so you and other folks stop calling me out at public meetings.

 

Here's a photo from Tremont West's Facebook page showing the Fairmount Creamery portion of the public meeting.....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

Oberlin developer trio aims to remake former Fairmont Creamery building in Cleveland's Tremont

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2013/02/oberlin_developer_trio_aims_to.html#incart_hbx#incart_best-of

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Three young developers who won national attention for remaking a blighted block in Oberlin are ready to tackle their second project, a near-vacant former creamery building in Cleveland's Tremont neighborhood.

that's that dudes project, right?  so it broke on UO?  wild and exciting stuff.

It is the dudes project and it did break on OU!

jrosen is his screenname.

that's that dudes project, right?  so it broke on UO?  wild and exciting stuff.

 

Yep, see above! I moved it here from Random Developments. Yes, the site is in Tremont whose "border" extends west to West 25th/Columbus.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

happy to give all the exclusives to UO :-)

when it gets warmer we'd love to give a tour to interested folks on here.

Count me in!

 

I'd be really excited for that!

Two more houses proposed for Tremont by the same guy, but I don't get the aka for the second address.....

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2013/crr02-19-2013.pdf

 

Board of Zoning Appeals

601 Lakeside Avenue, Room 519

February 19, 2013

9:30

Calendar No. 13-10:

722 College Avenue

Ward 3

aka 2305 Thurman Street

Joe Cimperman

 

Jeffrey Eizember, owner, appeals to erect a 29’-7” x 23’-7” three-story frame, single fami-ly dwelling with attached garage on a consolidated parcel located in a B1 Two-Family District; contrary to area regulations under Section 355.04(b), a maximum gross floor area of 1,402 square feet is proposed where 770 square feet equals fifty percent of the lot size; and contrary to provisions under Section 357.08(b)(1) proposing a rear yard depth of 4’-10” where not less than 34’-6” is required; and with an interior side yard of 6’-83 and a rear yard of 4’-10” where no building shall be erected less than 10 feet from a main build-ing on an adjoining lot pursuant to Section 357.09(2)A in the Cleveland Codified Ordi-nances. (Filed 1-17-13)

 

9:30

Calendar No. 13-11:

722 College Avenue

Ward 3

aka 2307 Thurman Street

Joe Cimperman

 

Jeffrey Eizember, owner, appeals to erect a 29’-7” x 23’-7” three-story frame, single fami-ly dwelling with attached garage on a consolidated parcel located in a B1 Two-Family District; contrary to area regulations under Section 355.04(b), a maximum gross floor area of 1,402 square feet is proposed where 770 square feet equals fifty percent of the lot size; and contrary to provisions under Section 357.08(b)(1) proposing a rear yard depth of 4’-10” where not less than 34’-6” is required; and with an interior side yard of 6’-83 and a rear yard of 4’-10” where no building shall be erected less than 10 feet from a main build-ing on an adjoining lot pursuant to Section 357.09(2)A in the Cleveland Codified Ordi-nances. (Filed 1-17-13)

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Two more houses proposed for Tremont by the same guy, but I don't get the aka for the second address.....

 

It's the vacant lot at the corner of College and Thurman.  The appeal says that it's a consolidated parcel, so I assume that the lot is composed of a parcel with a College Avenue address and a parcel with a Thurman Street address.

There's an empty lot at the corner of College and Thurman.  Is he proposing to split the 722 College Avenue lot into two lots facing Thurman (2305 & 2307)?

^Yes. It’s right at the intersection. Although there is only 1 “official” address, it technically takes up the parcel on Thurman. I know this by slingin’ pizza pies in college. Gotta be an address badass in that industry.

  • 5 months later...

Check this out!

 

That is an amazing video!!! It shows how much can change in less than 20 years. The tour starts on West 7th and Jefferson, site of the old Gospel Press and head south to Starkweather. The amount of vacant land is incredible, as is the junk strewn around people's front yards, and the poor condition of the houses still standing. You get a brief glimpse of the old CMHA projects at West 7th and Starkweather, and the structures at the east end of Starkweather that were since demolished, sat vacant for years, and are now the site of Starkweather Place.

 

I also don't know many of those alleys they drove down, but note the condition of the cars (all seem to be in various states of disrepair). And I saw a few people who did not appear to fit in with Tremont's craft beer crowd of today.....

 

The video's ending location is pretty obvious (West 7th/10th), but I can't get a sense of the condition of the surroundings. Problem is you don't know what is going to change in the future so you never know where to point the camera today. There are so many I times I look through old photos of mine and wished I'd pointed the camera slightly left or right of where I did point it because that's the area of most significant change.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Problem is you don't know what is going to change in the future so you never know where to point the camera today. There are so many I times I look through old photos of mine and wished I'd pointed the camera slightly left or right of where I did point it because that's the area of most significant change.

 

You need a Google car that takes pictures in all directions at once!

That is an amazing video!!! It shows how much can change in less than 20 years. The tour starts on West 7th and Jefferson, site of the old Gospel Press and head south to Starkweather. The amount of vacant land is incredible, as is the junk strewn around people's front yards, and the poor condition of the houses still standing. You get a brief glimpse of the old CMHA projects at West 7th and Starkweather, and the structures at the east end of Starkweather that were since demolished, sat vacant for years, and are now the site of Starkweather Place.

 

I also don't know many of those alleys they drove down, but note the condition of the cars (all seem to be in various states of disrepair). And I saw a few people who did not appear to fit in with Tremont's craft beer crowd of today.....

 

The video's ending location is pretty obvious (West 7th/10th), but I can't get a sense of the condition of the surroundings. Problem is you don't know what is going to change in the future so you never know where to point the camera today. There are so many I times I look through old photos of mine and wished I'd pointed the camera slightly left or right of where I did point it because that's the area of most significant change.

 

I'm pretty sure the long stretch of alley they drove down was Thurman, including the spot where the guy faked pulling a gun on the cameraman.

  • 2 weeks later...

Kollective Gallery tattoo parlor and art gallery had their grand opening on July 12th. They moved from S Taylor in Cleveland Hts to 2676 W 17th. Sad that they left my neighborhood (especially since they were in the same building as me, making a new tattoo very convenient...) but glad they found a new home and wish them the best of luck! Check them out, really cool place!

  • 4 weeks later...

Fairmount Creamery rezoning is approved by City Council's Planning Committee. First new housing in this part of Tremont in 80 years.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 1 month later...

Former Fairmont Creamery Project

1720 Willey Avenue

 

 

The redevelopment plan for the Project Site is to refurbish the existing structure into a mixed

residential/commercial site, creating approximately 30 residential units on the upper floors, and

converting the ground level into approximately 13,000 square feet of commercial space and a

12,000 square foot health and fitness center. The fitness center will cater to the Tremont area as

well as the Ohio City and Detroit Shoreway neighborhoods, which currently are lacking a large

scale fitness facility. This facility will be a vital step forward for these neighborhoods as they

build toward an amenity that attracts and retains people interested in living in Cleveland. The

gym operators will work with the two major neighborhood hospitals to create bulk employee

memberships and incorporate health initiatives including neighborhood outreach and education

efforts.

 

The project will also include rooftop community garden plots which will provide food and temperature control, as

well as aesthetic benefits and recreational activities. A rainwater irrigation cistern will collect

potable rainfall water for the gardens in addition to diverting rooftop runoff.

 

 

Total costs for the acquisition of the property, demolition, interior remediation, soil remediation,

project management, and infrastructure upgrades are estimated to be $2,804,775.00. It is

expected that 35 new full time jobs will be created at the project location within the first three

years of operation, with several additional temporary construction/trade jobs added during

construction and redevelopment. The created payroll for all new jobs is estimated to be

$1,259,200.00, exclusive of benefits. The annual real estate tax generation is estimated at

$166,368.00, plus a one-time sales tax benefit of $255,000 during construction.

The remediation and subsequent No Further Action (NFA) will remove the regulatory and

environmental stigma from the site and enable the redevelopment of this property into a mixed

use commercial/retail/office space, creating jobs that generate tax revenue for the City and

County.

 

Once the cooperative agreements are signed between Sustainable Community Associates and

Jobs Ohio and/or Cuyahoga County, it is expected that all grant-related activities will be

completed in a timely fashion. Construction and remediation activities are planned to commence

immediately upon the closing date for the property acquisition, which is set for October 2013. A

NFA Letter will be prepared following development, and the subsequent NFA is anticipated to

be issued by June 2014. Construction of commercial spaces is planned to be complete by

October 2014, and residential spaces are planned to be complete with a Certificate of Occupancy

issued by November 2014. The property is expected to be fully leased and stabilized by spring

2015.

 

http://portal.cleveland-oh.gov/clnd_images/PDF/ED/FairmontCreamery.pdf

the Creamery also had all of its variances approved at BZA today.  We are working at breakneck speed to close our financing in 2013 and start construction.  I'm biased but I think it is going to be a really unique project for the area.

a flavor of what the interior will look like:

I don't see an interior :( Is it just my browser?

I think he was going to post these (courtesy of Joe Cimperman's twitter feed)......

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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