September 8, 20204 yr ikea is opening its first ingka mall in the usa. its in sf and its taking over 6x6 mall. they have 45 ingka malls in europe. it said they are looking for inner city aquisitions like ailing mall sites. hmm. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ikea-centres-realestate-idUSKBN25W0FB
September 21, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 21, 20204 yr Menchie's is closing all stores across NEOH and Erie. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4556580544416661&id=170105133064246
September 28, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 30, 20204 yr Three sources say it was originally scheduled to reopen yesterday but moved back until tomorrow because of the debate and potential protest. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 30, 20204 yr On 9/28/2020 at 5:48 PM, KJP said: None of the entrances were open when I walked by a few moments ago– maybe later today!
September 30, 20204 yr 11 hours ago, KJP said: Three sources say it was originally scheduled to reopen yesterday but moved back until tomorrow because of the debate and potential protest. Next Wednesday. Edited September 30, 20204 yr by Snar Adams
September 30, 20204 yr You may be right! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 1, 20204 yr Here is an email I received this morning from Heinen's: To our valued customers, Beginning Wednesday, October 7, Heinen's of Downtown Cleveland will reopen for you to shop for fresh produce, groceries, packaged prepared foods, sushi, seafood, meat, wine and beer. We would like to thank you for your patience as we repaired the damage that occurred at the end of May and thought about solutions to address the operational challenges COVID-19 presents. We know there is a need for a grocery store in the area and are pleased to take this first step toward operating as normal. But due to a variety of factors, we have made the difficult decision to not open the Rotunda space at this time. To allow for adequate social distancing, Heinen's of Downtown Cleveland will limit the store's capacity and have only one entrance located on Euclid Ave. Per Gov. Mike DeWine's statewide mandate, masks are required upon entrance to the store. The hours will be 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. Monday through Friday and 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. Saturday and Sunday, matching the hours of all other Heinen's locations. We remain as committed to the revitalization of downtown Cleveland as we were when we opened in the historic Cleveland Trust Building in 2015.
October 1, 20204 yr I am a little confused by what they mean about not opening the Rotunda space at this time. The wine, beer, seafood, meat, sushi, cafe and bakery areas are all in the Rotunda. Do they mean the cafe space upstairs?
October 1, 20204 yr ^ They must be re-merchandising the alcohol downstairs then? It has to be a decent slice of sales. My hovercraft is full of eels
October 1, 20204 yr ^ I’d defer to @Snar Adams who is clearly an insider, but I’d imagine that without enough office workers eating through all that short shelf-life, perishable food, it’s too much of a risk right now. My own subjective sense is that the butcher/ fishmonger section doesn’t do that well in general anyway. Most downtown dwellers aren’t into cooking up that kind of stuff that often compared to the ‘burbs. Just my observation. My hovercraft is full of eels
October 1, 20204 yr Agree @roman totale XVII although I do wish they would put back the deli... I think that was doing better and they replaced it with a hot foods bar.
October 1, 20204 yr 8 hours ago, Ruken said: Why would they not open the Rotunda? Cant social distance. Cant walk around with beer/wine.
October 1, 20204 yr 9 hours ago, mrclifton88 said: I am a little confused by what they mean about not opening the Rotunda space at this time. The wine, beer, seafood, meat, sushi, cafe and bakery areas are all in the Rotunda. Do they mean the cafe space upstairs? Yes that is all closed.
October 2, 20204 yr Lululemon will be taking over the Harness Cycle space in Hingetown (temporarily) until November 2021 as a gauge for a potential new location in Ohio City
October 2, 20204 yr 32 minutes ago, YABO713 said: Lululemon will be taking over the Harness Cycle space in Hingetown (temporarily) until November 2021 as a gauge for a potential new location in Ohio City Is Harness Cycle closing permanently? Or is this a sub-let situation while exercise classes are hard to conduct?
October 2, 20204 yr 10 hours ago, gg707 said: Is Harness Cycle closing permanently? Or is this a sub-let situation while exercise classes are hard to conduct? sub let, from my understanding
October 5, 20204 yr The new H&M/H&M Home is now open at Beachwood Place. Zumiez and JD Sports should also be open by November.
October 7, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 7, 20204 yr Anyone able to take pictures of the inside? I believe they were planning on making some changes to the lay out and was curious as to what they were.
October 7, 20204 yr ^ Grocery section the same, apart from an additional checkout added. Rotunda blocked off, tastefully, by wooden shelving (I think from upstairs). Beer and wine now where cheese, fresh pasta, hummus etc used to be. Didn’t have my phone, but plenty of people were taking pictures, so I’m sure some will appear soon. My hovercraft is full of eels
October 7, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, roman totale XVII said: ^ Grocery section the same, apart from an additional checkout added. Rotunda blocked off, tastefully, by wooden shelving (I think from upstairs). Beer and wine now where cheese, fresh pasta, hummus etc used to be. Didn’t have my phone, but plenty of people were taking pictures, so I’m sure some will appear soon. This about sums it up! Cleveland.com article has some pics.https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/10/welcome-back-heinens-downtown-cleveland-grocery-store-reopens-after-riot-damage.html
October 10, 20204 yr Beachwood Place seems to be back to normal. Crowd was similar to a Saturday pre-pandemic. Really liking the new H&M Home store. Lets not forget how big of a deal this store is in showing confidence in the mall and the Cleveland retail market. Not only is this the first location in Ohio, but it's only the 7th location in America (Boston, Chicago, Denver, DC, and two in NYC). This is similar to when Zara opened a couple of years ago, and when the original H&M opened in the mall - both were the firsts in Ohio, and some of the (single digit) firsts in America. Now if only we can see Topshop/Topman and Uniqlo follow into the market...
October 10, 20204 yr 28 minutes ago, PoshSteve said: Beachwood Place seems to be back to normal. Crowd was similar to a Saturday pre-pandemic. Really liking the new H&M Home store. Lets not forget how big of a deal this store is in showing confidence in the mall and the Cleveland retail market. Not only is this the first location in Ohio, but it's only the 7th location in America (Boston, Chicago, Denver, DC, and two in NYC). This is similar to when Zara opened a couple of years ago, and when the original H&M opened in the mall - both were the firsts in Ohio, and some of the (single digit) firsts in America. Now if only we can see Topshop/Topman and Uniqlo follow into the market... I believe TopShop pulled out of the US in last year or two.
October 10, 20204 yr Hm, that appears so. That's a shame. Their Chicago flagship was really cool. Perhaps Cleveland can get a store if they reenter the US with stand alone stores again. They do still have a shop in the Beachwood Nordstrom though.
October 11, 20204 yr Yeah Topshop filed for bankruptcy in the USA, its old news. Only sell in some Nordstrom Stores. Since the USA has pretty much given up on new store concepts, and tired Macy's/Dillards relies on old boring standbys Tommy Hilfiger and Polo. The USA market is stale AF! Euro stores to watch and wish for: Zara Home, COS, Pull and Bear, The Kooples, River Island. Canada is so good at propping up their own brands, and has some good ones. The USA is so damn boring at doing exciting retail anymore. We are good at bottom feeder stores though. Edited October 11, 20204 yr by metrocity
October 11, 20204 yr Just a little comment from me re. Heinen's reopening... I know they aren't getting the office lunch crowds they need, but downtown residents are really giving their support. In my opinion, just in the short time they've been open, pedestrian activity has already increased coming east and west on Euclid Avenue. Every time I have been in (daily lol) it has been nicely busy, even on weekends. It's good to see, and a testament to people's desire to WALK to places, not drive. I hope as more apartments come online they get even more of the business they need! Euclid Grand, City Club, and one day 925 will certainly assist in that goal.
October 12, 20204 yr ^That's great! I believe that traditional grocery stores have been one of the "winners" during this Covid thing. More people cooking at home, and buying more expensive and gourmet items and ingredients. People craving the selection and variety those stores offer compared to stores like Target, Wal Mart. And of course alcohol sales. I personally have been spending way more at traditional grocery stores than I did before, and actually will probably continue to do so once this Covid thing is over. I went to Target for some things the other day and thought I should also grab some food. As I walked around the food aisles I was thinking, man this sucks, they don't have anything good. I think Heinen's will be surprised at how busy they are going to be at that store by having customers spending more per trip than before, and walking out with more items in their bag.
October 12, 20204 yr 20 hours ago, mrclifton88 said: Just a little comment from me re. Heinen's reopening... I know they aren't getting the office lunch crowds they need, but downtown residents are really giving their support. In my opinion, just in the short time they've been open, pedestrian activity has already increased coming east and west on Euclid Avenue. Every time I have been in (daily lol) it has been nicely busy, even on weekends. It's good to see, and a testament to people's desire to WALK to places, not drive. I hope as more apartments come online they get even more of the business they need! Euclid Grand, City Club, and one day 925 will certainly assist in that goal. I agree! Its definitely gotten busier on the sidewalks.......now if they want more business, stop charging me $4 for a bag of lettuce and $4.25 for half gallon of lactose free milk lol!!!
October 12, 20204 yr 51 minutes ago, mack34 said: I agree! Its definitely gotten busier on the sidewalks.......now if they want more business, stop charging me $4 for a bag of lettuce and $4.25 for half gallon of lactose free milk lol!!! Pre-bagged lettuce is usually around $3 at suburban Giant Eagles--so not surprising Heinens is charging $4 at this downtown location. What they need is some competition like a City Target and prices would come down a bit. https://grocery.gianteagle.com/pd/Fresh-Express/Salad-Green-Leaf-Lettuce-Shreds/4-50-oz/071279151021/
October 12, 20204 yr 11 minutes ago, Cleburger said: Pre-bagged lettuce is usually around $3 at suburban Giant Eagles--so not surprising Heinens is charging $4 at this downtown location. What they need is some competition like a City Target and prices would come down a bit. https://grocery.gianteagle.com/pd/Fresh-Express/Salad-Green-Leaf-Lettuce-Shreds/4-50-oz/071279151021/ Also, was it Organic? Non-mass produced or local? There's many factors which can affect the price. This feels like complaining about the price of a Heck's burger because McDonald's is cheaper.
October 12, 20204 yr Or it feels like I live downtown and the prices at Downtown Heinens are significantly higher than at Steelyard Aldis. So if Heinens wants to capture more downtown grocery shoppers and prevent a lot of us from doing our main grocery shopping while were out and about, they can evaluate their price structure.
October 12, 20204 yr 1 minute ago, mack34 said: Or it feels like I live downtown and the prices at Downtown Heinens are significantly higher than at Steelyard Aldis. So if Heinens wants to capture more downtown grocery shoppers and prevent a lot of us from doing our main grocery shopping while were out and about, they can evaluate their price structure. Exactly what I thought. You're comparing Heinen's to Aldi. If you want Aldi prices (and "quality") downtown, then hope for an Aldi downtown. Would it be better if there were no Heinen's downtown and Steelyard Aldi was your only choice? Edited October 12, 20204 yr by jam40jeff
October 12, 20204 yr Please tell me the "quality" difference in a bag of organic spinach between the two stores....or bananas, or a bag of frozen peas??? this is silliness. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say most downtown residents do the bulk of their grocery shopping elsewhere and use Heinens as the "oh sh*t I forgot something" because the prices are crazy high.
October 12, 20204 yr ^ You’re probably right that a good number of downtown residents use Heinens like that, but plenty also don’t and use them as their primary store. I fail to see how that’s any different to in the ‘burbs. This is getting OT and I also barely believe I have to explain this, but surely you see the difference in buying power, operating cost and brand positioning/ aspiration between Aldi and Heinens?? Edited October 12, 20204 yr by roman totale XVII My hovercraft is full of eels
October 12, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, roman totale XVII said: This is getting OT and I also barely believe I have to explain this, but surely you see the difference in buying power, operating cost and brand positioning/ aspiration between Aldi and Heinens?? Yeah, this is my point. The complaints about Heinen's could be made anywhere. Why should they pivot downtown and try to be an Aldi just because? If there was demand for an Aldi type store downtown, then an Aldi should move in. It's not Heinen's responsibility to fill that gap if they're doing alright as is. I'd rather have a Heinen's being a Heinen's downtown than no Heinen's at all. You're also ignoring the "extras" you pay for, such as a nice, well-kept store that is always well stocked, a place that invests in their store even after it was damaged, a place that will spend the money to rehab a beautiful old rotunda and provide things like a great food court and a wine tasting area, and a place that believes downtown residents deserve a nice grocery store. If you need to save $1 on bagged lettuce (ignoring any quality differences, perceived or real) and these things aren't worth that extra money to someone, then by all means, they're free to head over to Steelyard Aldi until Aldi can be convinced to put a store downtown. Edited October 12, 20204 yr by jam40jeff
October 13, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 16, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 23, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 23, 20204 yr Pinecrest has been taken over by their lender. Fairmount and DiGeronimo signed a deed in lieu of foreclosure, handing it over to Square Mile Capital Management of NYC. Fairmount will continue to manage and market the property. https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/lender-claims-control-pinecrest
October 23, 20204 yr I guess this means no Phase 2 on the back lots to the west (could not read the article so I don't know if something like that was mentioned but I know it has been discussed in the past). I was on a rare shopping excursion yesterday at Pinecrest and was surprised how busy it was for 2:30 on a Thursday school day in October (and throw in a pandemic to boot). Much more activity yesterday than at Legacy or Beachwood Place.
October 23, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, Htsguy said: I guess this means no Phase 2 on the back lots to the west (could not read the article so I don't know if something like that was mentioned but I know it has been discussed in the past). I was on a rare shopping excursion yesterday at Pinecrest and was surprised how busy it was for 2:30 on a Thursday school day in October (and throw in a pandemic to boot). Much more activity yesterday than at Legacy or Beachwood Place. It wasn't mentioned. Hard to say though. I imagine Square Mile will sell the property once the market is favorable for them to at least recoup their investment ($170M). I'm not anywhere close to an expert in commercial real estate, but that seems like a good price for what the property is, which could leave the buyer with enough capital to expand the center. On the other hand, Square Mile's website does say they "actively own and develop" commercial real estate, so perhaps they would take it on themselves. They certainly have the money for it. Pinecrest definitely seems to be the most popular east side shopping center now. Definitely swings with the weather though. I was out over the last two weekends and Beachwood Place was busy, but Pinecrest not at all (both cool, rainy days). I wish SO badly that Saks would reopen their interior mall entrances, especially now that the weather is changing. It's not really a good shopping experience to go around the building in the wind and rain. I hate to say it, but I get the impression they are keeping them closed and using Covid as an excuse. Nordstrom and Dillards are both open to the mall.
November 8, 20204 yr On 10/12/2020 at 8:50 AM, Cleburger said: Pre-bagged lettuce is usually around $3 at suburban Giant Eagles--so not surprising Heinens is charging $4 at this downtown location. What they need is some competition like a City Target and prices would come down a bit. https://grocery.gianteagle.com/pd/Fresh-Express/Salad-Green-Leaf-Lettuce-Shreds/4-50-oz/071279151021/ What does Heinen’s charge in the suburbs? Are you surprised downtown prices might be a bit higher?
November 8, 20204 yr 32 minutes ago, CLENYC said: What does Heinen’s charge in the suburbs? Are you surprised downtown prices might be a bit higher? I think you're quoting the wrong person. I was basically making the same argument, that a downtown location (especially with little to no competition) would be priced slightly higher.
January 22, 20214 yr Concerning news: Shaker Square’s future in doubt; owner faces foreclosure lawsuit as nonprofits seek to save historic shopping center https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2021/01/shaker-squares-future-in-doubt-owner-faces-foreclosure-lawsuit-as-nonprofits-seek-to-save-historic-shopping-center.html My summary: Shaker Square is generating enough revenue to make mortgage payments, but the principle was due in April. Coral (owner) had intended to refinance, but pandemic fallout caused the refinance to fall apart. A couple groups are trying to create non-profits to attempt to buy it. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
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