February 12, 200916 yr Educational level does not directly relate to income, unfortunately, quite a bit of the time.
February 12, 200916 yr Educational level does not directly relate to income, unfortunately, quite a bit of the time. Amen to that!
February 12, 200916 yr So true. But my point remains, experiences of a highly educated and enlightened crowd may differ markedly from those of the average whomever.
February 12, 200916 yr Westfield malls in North Olmsted, Strongsville and Canton cutting hours Posted by Janet H. Cho/Plain Dealer Reporter February 12, 2009 12:23PM Categories: Retail Westfield malls in North Olmsted, Strongsville and Canton will reduce their weekday hours by one hour per weekday starting March 1 in an effort to cut expenses and save money. Westfield Great Northern Shopping Centre, Westfield SouthPark Shopping Centre and Westfield Belden Village will be open from 10:30 a.m. to 8:30 p.m. Monday through Friday, instead of the 10 a.m. to 9 p.m. hours they are open now. More at http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009/02/westfield_malls_in_north_olmst.html
February 17, 200916 yr Good news in tough times. Tower City Center signs two stores and a restaurant Posted by Janet H. Cho/The Plain Dealer February 17, 2009 11:18AM Tower City Center has signed two stores and a restaurant to move into vacant spaces at the downtown Cleveland mall next month. continued at>>>>>>>> http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009/02/tower_city_center_signs_two_st.html
February 17, 200916 yr I agree .. and I think it's great that they seem to be local retailers, no? As long as they're done well and mesh well with the Tower City environ, it'll be great.
February 17, 200916 yr "Suzy's Soup, currently located at 138 Public Square, is moving into the former Panera Bread space." I would assume this means they're vacating their current space.
February 17, 200916 yr I guess the next question is if it will be difficult to fill the space they leave behind. Maybe we can get another sports bar to locate there. :roll:
February 17, 200916 yr How is the Arcade doing these days? To me, it seems like the new stores that are going into TC would have gone to the Arcade in past years.
February 17, 200916 yr I'm glad to hear they are adding some sandwiches at Suzy's, the wraps they offer aren't very good. Does anyone know what "sharpy's" sandwiches are?
February 17, 200916 yr http://cleveland.metromix.com/restaurants/subs/sharpys-subs-lyndhurst/395473/content
February 17, 200916 yr ^I'm not sure about Sharpy's, but there used to be The Souperee on Ontario, just around the corner from Suzy's. I'm pretty sure they were owned by Suzy's and they had sandwiches that I thought were pretty good. Maybe the TC Suzy's will be more like the Souperee was.
February 17, 200916 yr Maybe we can get another sports bar to locate there. :roll: Don't get me started. The Hall of Fame Cafe or whatever looks atrocious.
February 17, 200916 yr thx Florida. Drunk food isn't exactly a ringing endorsement, I will give them a try once they're open though, for sure.
February 17, 200916 yr Maybe we can get another sports bar to locate there. :roll: Don't get me started. The Hall of Fame Cafe or whatever looks atrocious. That would be one small sports bar. :wink:
February 17, 200916 yr How is the Arcade doing these days? To me, it seems like the new stores that are going into TC would have gone to the Arcade in past years. I think the Arcade units, in terms of store space and backroom inventory, are too small for the way modern retail is done. Just guessing, but also thinking about the Everything Cleveland store, and the Old Erie Tobacco store from several years back. They needed more space.
February 17, 200916 yr Not only that, but the Arcade lacks the foot traffic of a retail space on Euclid or in Tower City. Back when they moved from the Arcade to Tower City, I spoke to the folks at the Cleveland Store - they said they did in one day what they used to do in almost a week at their Arcade space. The food court area beneath/behind the Euclid side staircase is too hidden, imho. There are a few spots open and doing well (seemingly) - the Greek Express and Charlies Steakery almost always have long lines at lunch, and there are some smaller service-oriented spots like the chiropractor, spa/salon, etc. That said, there are some glaring vacancies - especially on the lowest level. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 17, 200916 yr Thanks, I hope they find thier niche. I guess with the hotel, it is not an urgent worry.
February 17, 200916 yr Irish pub opening up where Spy Bar was... I'm sure there is some info in the restaurants thread. let's try to keep our restaurants discussion there... :)
February 17, 200916 yr It seems like a lot of current Arcade retail is services for the hotel crowd. There may not be a good way around that, until somebody comes up with a more holistic plan for the Arcade. An increasing amount of the one across the street is being used as exhibit space.
February 17, 200916 yr Sharpy's is an east side sub shop (there is or used to be one in Euclid, Mentor, and Solon), good stuff if it's the same as it was when I was a teenager (10 years ago). Definetly a plus for Tower City.
February 20, 200916 yr Something tells me this is just a start for both shopping centers :-| From cleveland.com Z Gallerie closing stores in Legacy Village and Crocker Park Posted by jcho February 20, 2009 11:48AM Z Gallerie Inc., a Gardena, Calif.-based home decor retailer, is pulling out of Ohio and closing its stores at Crocker Park and Legacy Village as part of national effort to pare down a third of its 75 retail outlets. More at cleveland.com http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009/02/z_gallerie_closing_stores_in_l.html clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 20, 200916 yr I wonder what their sale is like. I remember when Bombay went out of business, their sale prices were not what I would consider a going out of business deep discount and I didn't buy a thing.
February 20, 200916 yr I wonder what their sale is like. I remember when Bombay went out of business, their sale prices were not what I would consider a going out of business deep discount and I didn't buy a thing. Yeah, I was totally disappointed with Bombay's sale too. All that was there was really expensive junk. Z Gallerie usually has some good stuff, so we'll see.
February 20, 200916 yr Personally, I hope both of these lifestyle centers close. gutted, im out of a job if that happens, just let me get through school then it can close down for all it care.
February 20, 200916 yr Personally, I hope both of these lifestyle centers close. gutted, im out of a job if that happens
February 20, 200916 yr Personally, I hope both of these lifestyle centers close. You may just get your wish. Commercial real estate is going to get pummelled this year with all the chain retailers going belly up. Commercial real estate is going to be the next crisis.
February 20, 200916 yr Personally, I hope both of these lifestyle centers close. You may just get your wish. Commercial real estate is going to get pummelled this year with all the chain retailers going belly up. Commercial real estate is going to be the next crisis. Like people moving back to the urban core, lets how retailers - large and small - do as well.
February 20, 200916 yr ^^Not sure where I heard this, but I heard a lot of times, what a store like Bombay will do is say they're having this huge liquidation sale, then sell off a bunch of cheap crap they bought somewhere else. So you're really not buying Bombay stuff for a really low rate, you're actually buying crap goods for probably more than they're worth. Might have been Joe Pakonakis or one of those.
February 25, 200916 yr Eton Collection losing three retail outlets. http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009/02/fibres_lush_boutique_cold_ston.html
March 16, 200916 yr Tower City Center to open one hour later Monday through Saturday starting April 1 Posted by Janet H. Cho/Plain Dealer Reporter March 16, 2009 11:19AM Categories: Real Time News, Retail Tower City Center in downtown Cleveland will open its doors one hour later, at 11 a.m. instead of 10 a.m. starting April 1, at most of its stores. Restaurants that serve breakfast and some stores will open earlier. All businesses will close at 7 p.m. on weekdays. http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009/03/tower_city_to_open_one_hour_la.html
March 16, 200916 yr Ironically, the cleveland.bomb posters have gotten this one right. TC let the mall fall from grace. I hope and pray stores return downtown but at street level on Euclid, Prospect & Huron.
March 16, 200916 yr What really stinks is the anchor store where I work is not opening later/closing early just because the mall is (Southpark). "That doesn't affect us" is what our store manager says. Um, except it does, because we are EVEN MORE DEAD now. We were already open before and after the mall itself, and now it's for an even longer period of time. I don't understand how it's at all profitable to keep our store open and all the lights on and the employees standing around for a full hour to 2 hours with no customers just because "all the other stores in the country" are open those hours. I wish they'd run the stores more regionally and respond to these changes instead of just toeing the company line and staying open when "the other stores" are open. Just because they have shoppers at Herald Square at 6:45pm on a Sunday doesn't mean we have them in Strongsville.
March 16, 200916 yr The following quote is from the city view article in the PD on Sunday discussing their store closings and problems... "The seven-county area surrounding Cleveland had 45 square feet of shopping floor space per person, according to a 2007 study. The national average is 19.5. " Whether people want to admit it or not. This figure is at the root of many problems in Greater Cleveland. This is one of the main reasons we can't have retail downtown. We are so oversaturated with retail it is almost beyond comprehension. And of course, that is simply a result of our absurd non regional govermental attitudes. All fifty nine (that's right FIFTY NINE) cities, townships, and villages in Cuyahoga County all feel the need to get their own slice of the retail property tax pie, and thus every "city" no matter how small wants their own shopping complex... and then can't figure out why so many of these places struggle. We are either going to have to figure a way to share services and divide property taxes or we are going down the toilet. i don't know anywhere the example is more painfully obvious than when looking at the NE Ohio retail scene.
March 17, 200916 yr Indigo Nation leaving Eton Chagrin Boulevard, will be fifth store to leave since January 1 Posted by Janet H. Cho/Plain Dealer Reporter March 16, 2009 17:45PM Designer-denim retailer Indigo Nation, which is closing its stores at Crocker Park and Eton Chagrin Boulevard on March 31, will be the fifth store to close at Eton since Jan. 1. The upscale Woodmere shopping center has already lost Blis boutique, Cold Stone Creamery, Fibres and Lush Boutique. More at cleveland.com: http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009/03/indigo_nation_leaving_eton_cha.html
March 17, 200916 yr well as far as indigo nation is concerned, I'm not suprised. They were never all that busy, prices high even for their segment, and the merchandise mix was bad. Tee shirts and the same brands of designer jeans, season after season. blah.
March 18, 200916 yr "The seven-county area surrounding Cleveland had 45 square feet of shopping floor space per person, according to a 2007 study. The national average is 19.5. " Whether people want to admit it or not. This figure is at the root of many problems in Greater Cleveland. This is one of the main reasons we can't have retail downtown. We are so oversaturated with retail it is almost beyond comprehension. And of course, that is simply a result of our absurd non regional govermental attitudes. All fifty nine (that's right FIFTY NINE) cities, townships, and villages in Cuyahoga County all feel the need to get their own slice of the retail property tax pie, and thus every "city" no matter how small wants their own shopping complex... and then can't figure out why so many of these places struggle. We are either going to have to figure a way to share services and divide property taxes or we are going down the toilet. i don't know anywhere the example is more painfully obvious than when looking at the NE Ohio retail scene. The sad thing is how very little of that 45' per person is accessible to inner city residents. A great number of suburban plazas need to be leveled. And a great number of suburbs need to be eliminated.
March 18, 200916 yr The following quote is from the city view article in the PD on Sunday discussing their store closings and problems... "The seven-county area surrounding Cleveland had 45 square feet of shopping floor space per person, according to a 2007 study. The national average is 19.5. " Whether people want to admit it or not. This figure is at the root of many problems in Greater Cleveland. This is one of the main reasons we can't have retail downtown. We are so oversaturated with retail it is almost beyond comprehension. And of course, that is simply a result of our absurd non regional govermental attitudes. All fifty nine (that's right FIFTY NINE) cities, townships, and villages in Cuyahoga County all feel the need to get their own slice of the retail property tax pie, and thus every "city" no matter how small wants their own shopping complex... and then can't figure out why so many of these places struggle. We are either going to have to figure a way to share services and divide property taxes or we are going down the toilet. i don't know anywhere the example is more painfully obvious than when looking at the NE Ohio retail scene. I've stated this before, but I think we have more square foot per person than LA and San Diego. Which makes no sense, to me, a person who would gladly welcome and patronize more retailers. The sad part about this is I can remember malls/stores opening and closing - this all within my short 42 years on the planet.
March 18, 200916 yr Clifton Web gift shop to move into The Landings Avon Lake By Bryan Wooten Come April, a new card shop will be moving in to The Landings shopping center. Mike Schneider, owner of Clifton Web Card and Gift Shop in Cleveland, is moving his business out to Avon Lake... Post edited 9-4-09 to comply with terms of use ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Published March 18, 2009 by THE PRESS Newspapers, Avon Lake, Ohio (no link available). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ My take on this is that it is a stupid business move. Clifton Web has an established clientele in the Edgewater and Lakewood areas, and appeals to a far different demographic than the suburbs of Lorain County. I always thought Clifton Web was the West Side version of the eclectic High Tide Rock Bottom on Coventry. Somehow that doesn't translate into a success at a suburban strip mall. The location in the strip itself doesn't face the road, and doesn't draw any foot traffic either. Good luck to Mr. Schneider, but the deck is stacked against him.
March 18, 200916 yr I heard about this pending move awhile ago and it confused me as well. They are established in that particular location and have a dedicated following in the community, one they aren't likely to get out in Avon. There has to be more to the move than what he's saying, it just doesn't wash as a good reason to uproot a business of 25 years.
March 18, 200916 yr What a "suicidal" decision. I assumed it had a new owner; as the former owner would have never even considered such a move.
March 21, 200916 yr http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009/03/clevelands_downtown_considered.html sorry dude. Cleveland's downtown is considered choice real estate for outlet shopping Posted by Michelle Jarboe/Plain Dealer Reporter March 21, 2009 16:08PM Categories: Real Time News, Retail Lisa DeJong/The Plain Dealer This is the clock in the main shopping area of The Arcade in downtown Cleveland. A recent revision of a sweeping retail plan for Euclid Avenue includes a hub of upscale outlets and discount luxury retailers around Public Square and inside The Arcade. Click here to download PDF.Store sales have fallen from Target to Tiffany as consumers hoard cash. Yet an updated plan to revive Cleveland's core relies on retail -- including a collection of high-end outlet stores clustered around Public Square. Outlets, often located in far-flung places near freeway ramps or in tourist meccas, might not seem like an instant fit for the former department stores and historic buildings that line Euclid Avenue.
March 21, 200916 yr http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009/03/clevelands_downtown_considered.html TEXT please! :whip:
March 22, 200916 yr I have been saying that bringing outlets to downtown would be a great idea for quite awhile now. I'm glad someone else thinks it's a good idea too!
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