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This bothers me too. If we put a carbon copy of the good restaurants out in the suburbs what's the point of them coming down to the city and spending money? Or, what's special about someone visiting from Indy or CBus if we have all the same places to eat?

 

1) Less chance of me hitting a 3 hour wait in OTR if those restaurants have locations elsewhere.

2) Indianapolis, Columbus, and Cincinnati are slowly turning into each other, at least in the restaurant and bar scene.  That's not such a bad thing because there doesn't seem to be a lot of tourism between those three cities anyway, and it gives the residents of each city access to the "unique" restaurants of all three.

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Thing is, when something's a success story in interior Cincinnati, a lot of times their Columbus ones will open way out in the 'burbs. Then they wonder what the hell happened when they tried to take their OTR business model to Hillard and it didn't work!

^Interesting.  I didn't think of that, but I've never bothered to go to a restaurant in Columbus that I can visit in Cincinnati.  It's probably the same dynamic we have down here, where I frequently see articles about new-to-Cincincinnati restaurants, and the first location is always in Mason or West Chester.

Yes.

A Tavola, Senate, and The Eagle now have or are opening opening locations out in the burbs. At least with Taste of Belgium's expansion, they've mostly stuck to urban locations.

 

Also, the three-hour waits in OTR aren't a bad thing. People go shopping or hang out in a bar while they're waiting for a text from the restaurant. If OTR gets to the point where you can walk right in to any restaurant with no wait, I bet the shops start hurting a little bit.

LOL: worried about The Eagle turning into Applebee's. That's funny.

 

Well, their food isn't really any better than Applebee's.  I'll take Richie's Chicken over the Eagle any day.

 

2) Indianapolis, Columbus, and Cincinnati are slowly turning into each other, at least in the restaurant and bar scene.  That's not such a bad thing because there doesn't seem to be a lot of tourism between those three cities anyway, and it gives the residents of each city access to the "unique" restaurants of all three.

 

I think to some extent every similarly sized city is slowing turning into the same thing, in this sense. I was in Jackson, Mississippi 2 or 3 years ago and stopped by the trendy part of town and they had what seemed like a copy-paste version of Bakersfield. There are certain styles of food and a very particularly atmosphere that is trendy and has been replicated everywhere. That's fine, buy I wouldn't want to go to Columbus and eat at Bakersfield, I'd want to go to Columbus and eat at their version of a Bakersfield, even though the food would probably be about the same, it would probably look about the same, the waitresses would have the same haircuts, etc.

Polly just reviewed Panera Bread in the Enquirer.

 

Polly's new fave: Brace yourself, it's Panera

 

http://cin.ci/2cYJ9bZ

 

 

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I actually love Panera and eat there more often than I'd like to admit. But it's overpriced. I would gladly go to a local place in OTR to get a salad or basic sandwich in a grab-and-go type of environment, but I'm waiting for such a thing to open...

 

I think to some extent every similarly sized city is slowing turning into the same thing, in this sense. I was in Jackson, Mississippi 2 or 3 years ago and stopped by the trendy part of town and they had what seemed like a copy-paste version of Bakersfield. There are certain styles of food and a very particularly atmosphere that is trendy and has been replicated everywhere. That's fine, buy I wouldn't want to go to Columbus and eat at Bakersfield, I'd want to go to Columbus and eat at their version of a Bakersfield, even though the food would probably be about the same, it would probably look about the same, the waitresses would have the same haircuts, etc.

 

That reminds me of the rise of the "Ghost Chain" Ghost Chains only open one location per major city while also skipping a lot of cities. Often they are far enough from each other that 98% of the population can't tell they are a chain unless they travel a lot. They also don't open in areas where you typically see chains. For example my old roommate and I used to live around the corner from a Trattoria Roma on the Grandview Strip. He went to Istanbul for 3 months and lived around the corner from a... Trattoria Roma.

Thing is, when something's a success story in interior Cincinnati, a lot of times their Columbus ones will open way out in the 'burbs. Then they wonder what the hell happened when they tried to take their OTR business model to Hillard and it didn't work!

 

North Star Cafe, one of my favorite Columbus restaurants, finally opened a "Cincinnati" location in.... Liberty Town Center. A North Star would be almost a guranteed success in OTR, and they already have a Short North location that would work as an excellent model for a store here, so I really don't get why they're entering the Cincy market in the far out exurbs, and at a mall of all places. I think the connection is Steiner, as North Star has a large Easton location, which of course is Stenier's premiere development.

In the Courier article about the new Eagle opening in Anderson, it says (emphasis mine):

KZF Design is the architect for the project, which includes a walkable design.

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/09/22/exclusive-more-tenants-lined-up-for-east-side.html

 

I laughed at that, as if the project leaders thought of "walkable design" as something you can just check off as a feature on your project. Uhm... nope. To their credit, the project does attempt to face the street, but that doesn't change the fact that it is sandwiched between Beechmont Ave one one side and a massive surface parking lot on the other side. So... who exactly is going to walk to this? 

^^Yes, I think Steiner is the right connection. BiBiBop, Celebrate Local, and probably others entered the Cincy market from Columbus through Liberty Town Center.

 

In Columbus, North Star gained its popularity in the Short North then went to Easton after it had a following. Should be interesting to see if it can get a following in Cincinnati suburbs without an urban start.

^ Once you park your car in the lot, it is a very walkable place.

In the Courier article about the new Eagle opening in Anderson, it says (emphasis mine):

KZF Design is the architect for the project, which includes a walkable design.

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/09/22/exclusive-more-tenants-lined-up-for-east-side.html

 

I laughed at that, as if the project leaders thought of "walkable design" as something you can just check off as a feature on your project. Uhm... nope. To their credit, the project does attempt to face the street, but that doesn't change the fact that it is sandwiched between Beechmont Ave one one side and a massive surface parking lot on the other side. So... who exactly is going to walk to this? 

So there will be a sidewalk to nowhere or to a parking lot...cool...

“All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche

LOL: worried about The Eagle turning into Applebee's. That's funny.

 

Well, their food isn't really any better than Applebee's.

 

Please.

 

I always wonder if people feel superior when they say things like this. Do you feel a sense of superiority over us lowly people who like The Eagle? Or do you TRULY believe it's no better than microwaved food that came frozen from a large warehouse supplier and was only heated up when ordered?

Well somebody figured out that if you make blue collar food cute then white collar people will overpay for it.  Somebody told me that The Eagle bought ridiculously expensive pressure fryers similar to what KFC uses but 2X as expensive (like $30k apiece rather than $15k).  They're probably using more expensive chicken, too.  But chicken is still just about the cheapest thing you can buy besides spaghetti or rice.  Whoever came up with the idea for the Olde Spaghetti Factory was a damn genius.  That place was doing $10,000+ nights selling spaghetti that literally cost 10-cents per plate. 

 

I ate at this place last night...my company was banned from it 8 or 9 years ago because one of the warehouse workers held a fundraiser there to pay for his mom's funeral expenses, except his mom was still alive and wasn't even sick.  So about 5 years ago people started going there a little bit (but not at all like they used to, which was pretty much every night after work), but when I went there last night I was in disbelief when I saw the same waitress there from years ago who surely remembers the fundraiser scam, but luckily doesn't remember me: 

https://www.yelp.com/biz/gano-tavern-west-chester

LOL: worried about The Eagle turning into Applebee's. That's funny.

 

Well, their food isn't really any better than Applebee's.

 

Please.

 

I always wonder if people feel superior when they say things like this. Do you feel a sense of superiority over us lowly people who like The Eagle? Or do you TRULY believe it's no better than microwaved food that came frozen from a large warehouse supplier and was only heated up when ordered?

 

You wonder about some weird things. I don't think the Eagle's chicken is anything to write home about, and for my money I'd rather get a spicy 3 piece meal from Richie's and save $8.

 

Well somebody figured out that if you make blue collar food cute then white collar people will overpay for it.  Somebody told me that The Eagle bought ridiculously expensive pressure fryers similar to what KFC uses but 2X as expensive (like $30k apiece rather than $15k).  They're probably using more expensive chicken, too.  But chicken is still just about the cheapest thing you can buy besides spaghetti or rice.

 

Chicken, when factory farmed, is extremely cheap. The only time chicken starts to get pricey is when it's free range (I've seen it cost 3+ times as much per pound), despite the fact that it has no effect on taste (and if anything has a negative impact on weight). There are some subtle differences between breeds of chicken and types of feed, but when you're smothering it in batter and dropping it in a vat of cooking oil it all becomes negligible, with the exception of maybe the breasts. A lot of people are willing to pay the premium for chickens who lived nice, comfortable lives but as someone who spent a good deal of his life in the presence of chickens I think they're a$$holes and don't care enough to do so.

2) Indianapolis, Columbus, and Cincinnati are slowly turning into each other, at least in the restaurant and bar scene.  That's not such a bad thing because there doesn't seem to be a lot of tourism between those three cities anyway, and it gives the residents of each city access to the "unique" restaurants of all three.

 

I think to some extent every similarly sized city is slowing turning into the same thing, in this sense. I was in Jackson, Mississippi 2 or 3 years ago and stopped by the trendy part of town and they had what seemed like a copy-paste version of Bakersfield. There are certain styles of food and a very particularly atmosphere that is trendy and has been replicated everywhere. That's fine, buy I wouldn't want to go to Columbus and eat at Bakersfield, I'd want to go to Columbus and eat at their version of a Bakersfield, even though the food would probably be about the same, it would probably look about the same, the waitresses would have the same haircuts, etc.

 

I guess what I'm saying is that Columbus doesn't need it's own version of a Bakersfield, because Bakersfield opened a location there.  And Cincinnati doesn't need it's own North Star, because hopefully North Star will open a location that is actually in Cincinnati.  Cities the size of Cincinnati, Columbus, and Indianapolis are never going to have the kind of restaurant scene that a Chicago would have, but they can punch above their weight by trading successful restaurant concepts with nearby cities.  Like the "ghost chains" that GCrites80s mentioned, these restaurants feel local, even if they aren't.  And as those niches get filled, restaurateurs will hopefully try different things and create new favorite spots instead of just rehashing something they saw an hour away. 

There is a Bakersfield in Nashville, in a new concrete hi-rise right next to the Country Music Hall of Fame. 

To be fair, the Thunder-dome group is absolutely killing it with their restaurant concepts. I don't know what their future trajectory or growth plan is, but their lineup can easily go nationwide and be successful.

 

I just went to Currito today, and it was surprisingly decent. I'm not sure if it's a chipotle killer, but it's a really serviceable place. I'm also surprised that their is no Currito in OTR. Besides Gomez, OTR really lacks any true grab and go places. It's all mostly fine dining, or sit down spots.

 

Finally, regarding the quality of The Eagle, and the comparison to Apple Bee's....I think the 3 hour wait times speak for itself. It's an established place in OTR, and brings customers from TN, KY, and IND on a pretty frequent basis. Their might be better chicken out their for sure, but there product (and menu in general) is really damn good, and saying it's no better than Applebees is pretty offensive for a Cincinnati startup that started from ground zero, and is now expanding with different locations.

 

If anything we should be proud that this is coming out of Cincinnati, and OTR no less. We are creating true, viable businesses, and we should hope that the other restaurant groups are just as successful.

Currito is fantastic!

^Seconded. I think it's a step above Chipotle in terms of quality and flavor and miles ahead of Qdoba which always seems to taste a lot like nothing.

 

Currito was my go to spot when I lived by UC. The one Downtown wasn't a replacement when I moved to OTR since it closed too early for me to get there most of the time and they were always out of stuff by the time I'd get there if I did make it in time since they were always about to close. I'd just stop at the one on Calhoun on the way home.

 

The one in Hyde Park opened not super long before I left Cincinnati but I would walk there from my office all the time. And got called out for being, "that guy who always comes into the Clifton one" by a random worker.

 

I'd love it if Currito become more countrywide and one opened by me since I miss it.

I had Currito at Florence Mall a few times but don't remember it well. That's how I am with most fast casual. The food never leaves and impression on me. I think I get so distracted by the process that I don't think about the food. That's another thing that was good about cafeterias -- not distracting.

A trailer will house Greater Cincinnati’s newest coffee shop

 

A new coffee shop in Camp Washington will have a unique home, Soapbox Cincinnati reports.

 

Mom N’ Nem will open in a 31-foot Land Yacht Airstream trailer at 3132 Colerain Ave. in early 2017.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/09/26/a-trailer-will-house-greater-cincinnati-s-newest.html

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Seems like a really hipstery concept for an area that's still struggling to find it's identity. Truly surprised this isn't in the likes of Northside instead.

^that's good news for Camp Washington, especially with its close proximity to the <a href="https://www.cincinnatilofts.com/apartments/Ohio/Cincinnati/machine-flats">Machine Flats building</a> and the Valley Park.  Hopefully the timing will work out to somewhat coincide with the opening of the apartments at the Crosley Building (though I haven't heard much news on that project, so it might still be a ways out).

^that's good news for Camp Washington, especially with its close proximity to the <a href="https://www.cincinnatilofts.com/apartments/Ohio/Cincinnati/machine-flats">Machine Flats building</a> and the Valley Park.  Hopefully the timing will work out to somewhat coincide with the opening of the apartments at the Crosley Building (though I haven't heard much news on that project, so it might still be a ways out).

 

I'm not disagreeing. At the same time I want this new venture to be succusful for the long term. I just don't know how well known or popular it will become when surrounded by alot of, "nothing". It's not a desirable neighborhood in the slightest, and the neighborhood is only on the radar for cincinnatians because of camp washington chilli. Not wishing ill will in the least bit, but from a business perspective it makes me scratch my head on picking that neighorhood (at it's current state of development).

 

Heck, I think Walnut Hills is more up and coming with Gomez, that new BBQ joint, and 5 points alley. At least that neighborhood is building a ecosystem that fosters new development, and those businesses can feed off each other. I can't say the same for Camp Washington.

Downtown Vietnamese restaurant now open

 

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A new Vietnamese restaurant specializing in traditional banh mi sandwiches and spring rolls is now open downtown.

 

Saigon Subs and Rolls is now open at 151 W. Fourth St., according to the restaurant's Facebook page. It's in the former It's Just Crepes space, which closed that and two other locations in January 2014.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/09/27/downtown-vietnamese-restaurant-now-open.html

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Cincinnati restaurateur opening new concept downtown

 

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A downtown Cincinnati restaurateur known for soul food with an Asian twist is opening up a new concept just blocks away from his original restaurant at 20 E. Court St.

 

The owners of Huit Craft BBQ – Tobias Harris, Eduardo Reyes and Trang Vo – hope to open Neuf at 709 Main St. downtown in the former Dynasty Chinese space within three to four weeks.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/09/27/cincinnati-restaurateur-opening-new-concept.html

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Former bank building in Walnut Hills will get restaurant

 

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A restaurant featuring new American cuisine is coming to a former bank building at the corner of Madison Road and Woodburn Avenue in Walnut Hills.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/09/28/former-bank-building-in-walnut-hills-will-get.html

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The Enquirer's Polly Campbell reflects on 20 years of eating in Cincinnati:

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/entertainment/dining/2016/09/28/polly-campbell-reflects-20-years-dining-cincinnati/90838664/

 

6. Early on, my sister visited from San Francisco, and I took her out to dinner. She looked around and wondered where all the young people were. She probably wouldn't ask that now. Millennials are big diners, and their habits drive trends these days.

 

At a Gen X'er, I have still never eaten at anything other than a normal restaurant with any of my family, friends from high school, or friends from college.  We have walked past the trendy places and chuckled at their marketing and whatever customers we can see for the past 20 years. 

 

19. The Food Network and related programming have created an aura of glamour around food and kitchen work that is simply not true to the real world. Everyone wants to be a celebrity chef, but it's hard to find good help in the kitchen.

 

Duh.  I have had roommates who watch this stuff endlessly with a tub of ice cream in their laps, coworkers who watch it in the breakroom while eating some sort of mush out of tupperware, etc. 

 

 

And before I forget, here is the Bakersfield in Nashville...looks like they think that they're so famous that they don't need an illuminated sign.

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coworkers... eating some sort of mush out of tupperware

 

 

 

I am incapable of doing this. Just can't. I don't see how that can last someone 5-6 hours until getting off work/getting home.

jmecklenborg[/member] - Earlier tonight I was hanging out with some guys that were in bands in the local music scene in the early 2000s and they were telling me some great stories. It's funny how much they have in common with what Polly Campbell wrote in that column. Basically it all comes down to this: you can find out about anything instantly now thanks to the internet, and even 10 years ago that wasn't possible.

 

Polly wrote, "So for my 20th anniversary, I've been thinking about all the things that have changed... I can't even remember how I found out about places or did research. I don't remember how restaurants let people know they were there!"

 

By the time I was in college and hanging out in the city, it was pretty easy to use the internet to find good restaurants. What did people do before then -- look in the phone book or read reviews in the Enquirer? Sounds awful.

 

She continues, "Diners have changed. Really, the majority of people are pretty conservative eaters. There are still plenty of patty melts and meatloaf plates out there. But the people who are interested are really interested. That's the internet again, and the Food Network and celebrity chefs making food a fun, engaging subject. Almost every restaurant owner tells me people are better educated about food now."

 

I think it's odd that she doesn't mention the fact that this is a national trend, not something unique to Cincinnati. I grew up watching the Food Network. By the time I was 20, I had tried more types of cuisine than my parents have tried in their lives. Younger people are more adventurous and more curious about different types of food from around the world. I definitely enjoy going to old school greasy spoons or getting Cincinnati chili. But I also regularly consume sushi and pho and saag paneer and massaman curry and kimchi jjigae. (Okay, so maybe I've outed myself as a big fan of Asian food.)

 

"There was a micro-brewery trend going on when I started, with some beer being brewed in pubs on Main Street in OTR. But this recent wave is overwhelmingly bigger, more successful, more varied."

 

This is yet another area where I feel that Generation X'ers were just slightly ahead of their time. They tried to make the microbrewery thing take off. A few of the bigger ones made it and are still around today. But many smaller local ones failed. I can't even find information about them because they slightly predated the modern internet. I know there was Brewhaus (spelling?) that was based in the building that is now the AAC. I don't really know about any others.

Moving to a bigger city has made me even more adventurous in regards to food, I've probably had at least one thing from every major global cuisine.  As the country gets more diverse so will our food options :)

Short Vine restaurant closes

 

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A Cincinnati fast-casual restaurant focused on meatballs has closed its doors.

 

Meatball Kitchen, which opened on Short Vine in 2014, closed last week, according to a Facebook post from chef Jason Louda.

 

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http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/09/30/short-vine-restaurant-closes.html

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Famed Indianapolis restaurant makes first move to Cincinnati

 

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An Indianapolis deli and cafeteria is opening in Blue Ash, the Enquirer reports.

 

Shapiro’s, a Jewish eatery focused on overstuffed deli sandwiches, chopped liver, chicken salad, cheesecake and other kosher-style deli items, will open in the former Blockbuster building in Crossings of Blue Ash at Kenwood and Hunt roads in the first quarter of 2017.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/09/30/famed-indianapolis-restaurant-makes-first-move-to.html

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Polly wrote, "So for my 20th anniversary, I've been thinking about all the things that have changed... I can't even remember how I found out about places or did research. I don't remember how restaurants let people know they were there!"

 

By the time I was in college and hanging out in the city, it was pretty easy to use the internet to find good restaurants. What did people do before then -- look in the phone book or read reviews in the Enquirer? Sounds awful.

 

I don't remember anyone caring or talking about restaurants at all, kind of like how nobody had ever heard of anyone who renovated their kitchens.  The cable TV channels introduced the concept of flipping houses and even renovating entire houses to the public and then all of the food and restaurant shows introduced people to all sorts of food.

 

Last weekend I stopped at a gas station in Tennessee to get a gatorade while bicycling and talked to another guy on a bike doing the same thing.  I told him I was from Cincinnati and he said that when he had visited he went to Terry's Turf Club because he saw it on some food show.  I told him I'd seen it but never been to it. 

 

 

^ Yeah, I think that's part of the generational shift, where my parent's generation just viewed the experience of "going out to eat" as a special thing and weren't really too concerned about the food itself. That also explains why places like Montgomery Inn have much bigger reputations than they deserve, because people "heard it was good" so that's where everybody would go for special occasions. Now it's so easy to find information about what is good that you have to actually be good or you're not going to survive.

^ I think Eli's is so much better than Montgomery Inn but if I said that around some natives I would get my neck wrung.

I never got the love for Montgomery Inn. Everything I've ever had there was just okay and their spaces are...well, hideous and uncomfortable. It's clearly catering to the older crowd that has gone there for years, but the entire experience there is less than rewarding.

Interesting about Shapiro's... An institution in Indy, much like Montgomery Inn (which failed in Indy a decade ago)  is in Cincinnati. However, Shapiro's just closed a large location in upscale Carmel in Indy, so surprised they are branching out to another similar suburb, out of town, now.

 

As for Montgomery Inn.. It ISN'T that great but it IS an experience... A destination. If nothing more....

^ As someone who grew up in the Blue Ash area (parents still live there), I'm thrilled about Shapiro's opening! Although there's a pretty large and healthy Jewish community in Cincinnati, we don't actually have many Jewish restaurants and businesses. I think this is mostly due to the fact that the neighborhood that serves as the heart of Jewish Cincinnati, Amberly Village, has no zoned commercial space. It's entirely residential and institutional, with several synagogues, a huge and very nice JCC, several of the big Jewish foundations/non profits there, but no actual businesses. Blue Ash has Marx Bagels, a Chabad center, and a large Kosher section with deli and bakery in the Blue Ash Kroger, but other than that, not much in the way of Jewish oriented businesses, despite having a huge Jewish population. I think there is a hunger in the community for more visible establishments and the like, and I think Shapiro's will do well. 

^ As someone who grew up in the Blue Ash area (parents still live there), I'm thrilled about Shapiro's opening! Although there's a pretty large and healthy Jewish community in Cincinnati, we don't actually have many Jewish restaurants and businesses. I think this is mostly due to the fact that the neighborhood that serves as the heart of Jewish Cincinnati, Amberly Village, has no zoned commercial space. It's entirely residential and institutional, with several synagogues, a huge and very nice JCC, several of the big Jewish foundations/non profits there, but no actual businesses.

 

I can't imagine how explosive their city council meetings would be if they had commercial development. I used to watch the meetings on Channel 25 and even without commercial I thought the place was going to blow.

 

edit: maybe it was cable Channel 3, government access

i caught the van right in front of the shop today in the east village!

 

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^ As someone who grew up in the Blue Ash area (parents still live there), I'm thrilled about Shapiro's opening! Although there's a pretty large and healthy Jewish community in Cincinnati, we don't actually have many Jewish restaurants and businesses. I think this is mostly due to the fact that the neighborhood that serves as the heart of Jewish Cincinnati, Amberly Village, has no zoned commercial space. It's entirely residential and institutional, with several synagogues, a huge and very nice JCC, several of the big Jewish foundations/non profits there, but no actual businesses. Blue Ash has Marx Bagels, a Chabad center, and a large Kosher section with deli and bakery in the Blue Ash Kroger, but other than that, not much in the way of Jewish oriented businesses, despite having a huge Jewish population. I think there is a hunger in the community for more visible establishments and the like, and I think Shapiro's will do well. 

 

Never been to Shapiro's.  How does it compare to Izzy's?

^oh my God no comparison. Shapiros is a real NY style deli. Only there once but I have that from friends who are both Jewish and from NY.

Thanks for the info.  Can't wait to try it.  Too bad they're not locating downtown, but at least it isn't Mason.  Full disclosure... I like Izzy's, but if this is better, I would definitely welcome that.

Is the Shapiro's in Indy also located in the suburbs? I'm always curious when a restaurant chooses to expand and be located in the suburbs, is that more of the ownership group not really trusting the business state of the downtown urban core? Or is there usually another reason attached?

 

Blueash isn't bad compared to say West Chester, but it makes me sad that our urban core is still so desolate when it comes to places like these :/

Is the Shapiro's in Indy also located in the suburbs? I'm always curious when a restaurant chooses to expand and be located in the suburbs, is that more of the ownership group not really trusting the business state of the downtown urban core? Or is there usually another reason attached?

 

Blueash isn't bad compared to say West Chester, but it makes me sad that our urban core is still so desolate when it comes to places like these :/

 

Yeah, it's really sad that a new business is coming to the Cincinnati area and choosing to open where it makes the most sense for them to serve their customer base. So, so sad.

Shapiro's original Indy location has been on the fringe of downtown for a century. They also have a mall llocation in the equivalent of Kenwood.

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