Posted July 25, 200618 yr I vote we tear down the Ohio Theater. It was slated for demolition anyways, and it would be perfectly suited for surface lots for Fifth Third Bank employees next door. Survey finds Columbus parking relatively cheap Business First of Columbus - 1:30 PM EDT Tuesday by Matt Burns Business First Downtown Columbus employees paying $130 a month for reserved parking spaces should count themselves lucky. A survey by real estate firm Colliers International shows Columbus ranks well below the $181 national average for monthly parking rates. The city's average for monthly unreserved parking at $95 a day also falls below the national average of $153. Unreserved monthly parking in midtown Manhattan has hit $574, the fifth-highest rate in the world. The survey found Columbus is tied with Dallas with an average of $9 for daily parking, putting both cities among the 10 least-expensive. Daily rates ranged from $6 in Memphis to $40 in midtown Manhattan. Parking costs nationwide have increased for the third year in a row, with reserved and unreserved monthly rates climbing 3.8 percent and 4.4 percent, respectively, while daily parking fees shot up 10.1 percent last year. Colliers researchers attributed the rise to a thriving office market. More at http://columbus.bizjournals.com/columbus/
July 25, 200618 yr Well once Columbus gets street cars and light rails there wont be such a demand now will there? ;)
July 25, 200618 yr ^Yeah and with everyone in the three C's riding the high-speed passenger train through the state, there will be no need for cars what so ever!
July 25, 200618 yr It would truely be an urban paradise, Randy :] . P.S. That chair looks really comfortable.
July 25, 200618 yr ^I agree, David :] P.S. that computer looks really exciting, and you can feel free to give the chair a test drive...just set the image as your desktop background..and enjoy! :laugh:
July 26, 200618 yr "I would say we're probably just about right but edging toward too few," he said. That one drew a little throw up into my mouth. Yeah jackass...that's all we need. Exibit A - http://www.geturban.com/KyleEzell2.htm
July 26, 200618 yr Is it true that geographically, downtown Columbus is the size of downtown Chicago? I saw that on some website I went to. If all of that red area were high-rise buildings, it would be insanely huge.
July 26, 200618 yr That map is sickening. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 26, 200618 yr I think the leveque site or the Huntington Building would be a good place to expand the surface lots in Columbus.
July 26, 200618 yr Oh sheeeat! Someone is going to get hammered with emails (and hopefully real actual letters too). Be gentle. Marc Conte 645-5010 [email protected]
July 26, 200618 yr Is it true that geographically, downtown Columbus is the size of downtown Chicago? I saw that on some website I went to. If all of that red area were high-rise buildings, it would be insanely huge. Oh it is insanely huge...and sad. We're aleady drowning in a sea of parking lots and this guy is insinuating that we'll soon need more? He has no place at the Downtown Development Resource Center based on that comment alone.
July 26, 200618 yr Oh sheeeat! Someone is going to get hammered with emails (and hopefully real actual letters too). Be gentle. Marc Conte 645-5010 [email protected] Isn't that the same Marc Conte who used to work for the Ohio Sierra Club? If so, you'd be preaching to the choir on downtown Columbus having too many surfacing parking lots. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 26, 200618 yr Oh sheeeat! Someone is going to get hammered with emails (and hopefully real actual letters too). Be gentle. Marc Conte 645-5010 [email protected] Isn't that the same Marc Conte who used to work for the Ohio Sierra Club? If so, you'd be preaching to the choir on downtown Columbus having too many surfacing parking lots. This comment of his doesn't sound like he's one of the choir, maybe he's had a change of heart, because the context seems to be clear. "The survey found 70.3 percent of cities described their parking supply as "fair," a classification that suits downtown Columbus' 33,000 public parking spaces, said Marc Conte, director of research and information for the Downtown Development Resource Center. That may not last long, he said. "I would say we're probably just about right but edging toward too few," he said."
July 26, 200618 yr What American is ever going to rate their downtown parking situation as anything above "fair"? I got into a wreck in Columbus and went to the court for it downtown and there was EVERYWHERE to park. This was on a weekday morning. I even parked at a meter because the limit was like two hours and I couldn't have paid any more than like 50-75 cents in change. I'd call that more than a "fair" parking situation. Marc Conte obviously hasn't been to very many cities.
July 26, 200618 yr ^ In addition to that, what downtowns worth going to have easy parking? Anyone want to provide a list?
July 26, 200618 yr I would be interested in knowing how much they profit from these lots. It must be a lot if they are are remaining surface lots and not being sold to developers and converted into F****** skyscrapers!
July 26, 200618 yr I would be interested in knowing how much they profit from these lots. It must be a lot if they are are remaining surface lots and not being sold to developers and converted into F****** skyscrapers! I know, and what could be done to deter their keeping those lots for parking? Could the city put a limit on the amount of parking lots downtown? Are there other cities we can look to?
July 26, 200618 yr I would be interested in knowing how much they profit from these lots. It must be a lot if they are are remaining surface lots and not being sold to developers and converted into F****** skyscrapers! Well the way taxes are structured, in most cities, is that you are taxed on the land and the improvements to the land (structures, additions, etc). Therefore, if you convert a surface lot to a mid-rise tower you will get hammered by additional new taxes. A way to encourage movement towards towers/increased density is to tax the land extremely high and to not tax the improvements to the land. You then create an incentive for the property owners to use the land more intensively by making it a financial must. Ex (completely hypothetical...using easy numbers): Current - tax a surface lot (makes $10 profit a month) $2 for land...and $4 for improvements (surface lot)...or build a 5 story tower and make $50 profit and pay taxes on $2 for land ...and $20 for improvements. = $22 total property taxes paid...with a 5 story tower Incentive - continue operating surface ($10 profit) on the land thats taxed $12....or build a 10 story tower and make $50 profit and still pay $12 in taxes. = $12 total property taxes paid...with a 5 story tower
July 26, 200618 yr Doesn't Pittsburgh have higher taxes on the land and a lower tax on improvements? Or a special "parking lot" tax or something like that?
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