Posted July 26, 200618 yr Columbus was ranked the #11 best city for singles by forbes magazine. This ranking took into effect everything from nightlife, culture, Cost of Living, The amount of singles, and other variables. This was the first year that the rankings took into effect per-capita values instead of raw values. Columbus #11 :clap: - #10 Culture - #10 nightlife - #19 – number of singles - #7 cost of living Cincinnati #26 #1 NIGHTLIFE :-o #16 culture #9 cost of living Cleveland #37 I always take these rankings with a grain of salt because they always seem flawed. But hey! C-bus and Cincy come out with some good rankings. C-bus’s overall ranking is not surprising given all of the national press they have received. Cincy being #1 per capita nightlife is a little surprising :-D …by the way these were METRO rankings so Alchemize and other clubs leaving OTR won’t affect the rankings as long as they stay in the region…discuss… http://www.forbes.com/2006/07/24/singles-best-cities-cx_lr_06singles_0725intro.html
July 26, 200618 yr Those are some pretty wacked out rankings. How is it possible that Phoenix is No.1 in culture?? Cleveland ranks poorly on the cost-of-living index and culture?? I am happy for Cincy and Columbus, but the methodology seems very flawed.
July 26, 200618 yr TO EVERYONE WHO CAN READ THIS!!! Every year, a group of people at Forbes sit around in a boardroom and toss around things like "What have you heard about ____ city?". That's the scientific approach they take - the methodology is akin to junior-high girls gossiping about who's dating who. It's one thing to quote travel articles that are written by people who have actually set foot in the city, it's another to quote this annual tripe fest - and what's worse is how people see these polls and try to defend or boost their city's rankings. Please - I beg of you, let it die! clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
July 26, 200618 yr I see your point and as I stated I always take these rankings with a grain of salt, EXCEPT….people are talking about Columbus and Cincinnati positively…This conversation involving these cities is a good thing. For Forbes magazine (whether or not the rankings are backed by facts or not) to put cincy at #1 speaks for how Cincinnati is viewed by some people in the nation. These rankings make Cincinnati and Columbus look good in the eyes of the people that read them. This article is an IMAGE builder … This ranking of best places for singles is not scientific but it could give us an insight on how people view certain areas of the country…We need to look at this as a positive thing because readers of the magazine will see C-bus and Cincy in the rankings (Free Publicity). 2 months ago the nation saw that Cincinnati had the highest percentage of people leaving the city. We were called the next Detroit (not good) This is some good publicity that cincy has not had in a long time….good for cincy :-D…good for c-bus :-D ….good for Ohio :-D …
July 26, 200618 yr Ohh, I know, good publicity blah blah, but come on. I love Cincinnati but #1 in nightlife? Let me guess, it was that great gay club scene there :lol: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
July 26, 200618 yr I honestly don't mean to offend anyone, but I'm curious about what culture exists in Columbus.
July 26, 200618 yr Okay, Providence ranked just ahead of New York in nightlife. Can we all agree to disagree with these "rankings"?
July 26, 200618 yr if you were a 20 something young professional on a plane to cincy for business...and you were reading a Forbes magazine...would you not be more likely to go check out the bar scene while staying in cincy than if cincy were not on the list...a lot of people read forbes...it just seems that this CAN'T be a bad thing.....all of US know that there is no actual research done but………….hypothetically……..Lets say Cincinnati rises to #1 on all of the rankings (no research.. just happens, kind of like this one)……best place to live, best place to work, best place to party, best place to raise a family, best place to ride a bike, etc….would those rankings in Newsweek , Daily newspapers across the country, CNN, New York Times, give way to more people moving here, or at least looking into moving here, relocating their business, vacationing….in a time where IMAGE is everything, could these image boosters be one piece of the puzzle to revitalizing this city??? ….could something like this work in OTR??? If everyone heard that OTR was completely safe and that it was the best place to do whatever? Would it aid in turning around that part of the city???
July 26, 200618 yr These guys were talking about everyone in Cincinnati wearing sweatpants, riots being the events where Cincy singles meet and Spring Grove cemetary being the hip place to be. Please someone tell me why anyone would take these rankings seriously UC Planner- If Forbes is promoting Cincinnati that's great but people are not going to come here because they read about it in Forbes, they're gonna come here because they have a reason to come here. If they're in Cincinnati and they like nightlife then they'd check out the nightlife scene anyway.
July 26, 200618 yr UCplanner, image is one thing, but if there's no substance to back it up, image doesn't mean shit. Not to say Cincy doesn't have substance, but you can't rebuild a neighborhood (let alone a city) on image alone. To answer your question more succinctly, you certainly won't see me second-guessing my move to DC in favor of a relocation to Phoenix.
July 26, 200618 yr ... It's one thing to quote travel articles that are written by people who have actually set foot in the city ... Actually, the Forbes reps do come to the city. 2 years ago when Cincy was ranked very low, like #36 (or, something like that). The YP of Cincy tried to find out what exactly went down and why are ranking was so low. They tracked every step this certain someone made and wrote an article about it. So, yeah, they do come to the city. I remember one of the quotes from the article stating that the first place this guy went to for advice was a used car lot, he approached one of the salesman and asked, "what is the thing to do in Cincinnati?". On a side note, I'm not really sure on how our ranking got so high either. I mean, if I wasn't married I would definitely be going out a lot more, but if I had it my way ... there is something to do almost every night. The problem is, is a centralized location for bars/clubs. Maybe this guy happened to run into the right people and he liked what he saw? I would definitely rank Pittsburgh over Cincy though.
July 26, 200618 yr I honestly don't mean to offend anyone, but I'm curious about what culture exists in Columbus. I really don't know much about Columbus- But when I was in school at UC a few years ago I remember a fellow student from Columbus constantly complaining about the lack of ethnicity in Cincy. She was always saying we didn't have any good ethnic restaurants, etc. compared to Columbus.
July 26, 200618 yr TO EVERYONE WHO CAN READ THIS!!! Every year, a group of people at Forbes sit around in a boardroom and toss around things like "What have you heard about ____ city?". That's the scientific approach they take - the methodology is akin to junior-high girls gossiping about who's dating who. It's one thing to quote travel articles that are written by people who have actually set foot in the city, it's another to quote this annual tripe fest - and what's worse is how people see these polls and try to defend or boost their city's rankings. Please - I beg of you, let it die! Thank you MD...you are so wise! many times (based on editiorial meetings i've attended) these polls are made up with ADVERTISERS in mind. Magazines use these polls to push the online experience, which is why many of the "ratings" don't seem right. For instance, if you have a high number of online users in a particular city (say Lincoln, NE), you're ratings might "appear" better than (say philadelphia) although Philly is the nations 5 largest metro area. Lincoln, being a college town, might have more users using the internet than Philly. most of the top ten(or 15) its usually the same cities...and notice they all have a large/high number of urban/inner city colleges/universities. ... It's one thing to quote travel articles that are written by people who have actually set foot in the city ... Actually, the Forbes reps do come to the city. 2 years ago when Cincy was ranked very low, like #36 (or, something like that). The YP of Cincy tried to find out what exactly went down and why are ranking was so low. They tracked every step this certain someone made and wrote an article about it. So, yeah, they do come to the city. I remember one of the quotes from the article stating that the first place this guy went to for advice was a used car lot, he approached one of the salesman and asked, "what is the thing to do in Cincinnati?". On a side note, I'm not really sure on how our ranking got so high either. I mean, if I wasn't married I would definitely be going out a lot more, but if I had it my way ... there is something to do almost every night. The problem is, is a centralized location for bars/clubs. Maybe this guy happened to run into the right people and he liked what he saw? I would definitely rank Pittsburgh over Cincy though. A "rep"? Magazine polls are written or created by editors and writers. A rep usually is on the business side (Advertising & Marketing) so I highly doubt the rep has anything to do with the "change" in numbers and was probably in the city for other business. These polls are a joke. We do the same polls at TW. You'll see it in (not always in this order) People then AOL then Digital City/Cityguide. These polls are "popular opinion" pols not fact based.
July 26, 200618 yr A "rep"? Magazine polls are written or created by editors and writers. A rep usually is on the business side (Advertising & Marketing) so I highly doubt the rep has anything to do with the "change" in numbers and was probably in the city for other business. Please find it in your soul to forgive me - Senior Editor. I used rep as in representitive, representing something or someone, in this case ... Forbes. Here he is: Dan Lienert (Senior Editor) And yes, he did come to the city and he wrote a lot of nasty things (2003 or 2004). These polls are a joke. We do the same polls at TW. You'll see it in (not always in this order) People then AOL then Digital City/Cityguide. These polls are "popular opinion" pols not fact based. I completely agree. Actually, isn't this whole topic subjective?
July 26, 200618 yr I'm with Dan on this one. Seriously...I've been to Cincy and OTR and I've been to Manhattan. Cincy, while having a fine bar scene, is not even with the same league as Manhattan. Seems a little screwy to me. One of throw the dart on the wall and lets pick a new city to be #1. And yes if Cleveland, hell DC was ahead of NY, I'd say the same damn thing.
July 26, 200618 yr FWIW... http://www.forbes.com/2006/07/25/singles-cities-methodology-cx_lr_06singles_0725method.html
July 26, 200618 yr FWIW... http://www.forbes.com/2006/07/25/singles-cities-methodology-cx_lr_06singles_0725method.html Wow....that's very scientific. Explains why NYC has a worse nightlife than Cincy. When using match.com does Dr. Phil get a say? :)
July 26, 200618 yr They must not have visited 4th Street. :wink: They sure haven't ;). "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 26, 200618 yr FWIW... http://www.forbes.com/2006/07/25/singles-cities-methodology-cx_lr_06singles_0725method.html Wow... I thought Forbes was an esteemed publication. You couldn't have turned a report this shakey in a high school English class. Why don't they just ask 10 random people on the street in Times Square for the best cities for singles and run with that? And how can they justify ranking Cincy #1 (no insult to Cincy here) when they wrote in 2002: "Say what you will about the place (and there are a lot of bad things you can say, like the paltry nocturnal and cultural offerings, the lack of cool and, of course, the sweatpants" http://www.forbes.com/finance/lists/3/2002/LIR.jhtml?passListId=3&passYear=2002&passListType=Misc&uniqueId=2506&datatype=Misc
July 26, 200618 yr Ah, the gloves are off! And I'm not even involved in this one! "Cleveland sucks for singles!" "But Cincinnati, you sucked in 2002!" "Culture? Columbus? LOL!" "Cleveland has culture? I thought it moved to Columbus?" "Easton has culture, bitches!" "Damn you Cincinnati and your repressed club scene!" "North Royalton just wins, folks. It just wins." "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 26, 200618 yr You Clevelanders need to get your panties out of a wad. No Cincinnatian is taking this list seriously! ;)
July 26, 200618 yr You Clevelanders need to get your panties out of a wad. No Cincinnatian is taking this list seriously! ;) Shut it! You'll bring common sense to this! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 26, 200618 yr You Clevelanders need to get your panties out of a wad. No Cincinnatian is taking this list seriously! ;) I'm not mad that Cincy and Columbus ranked well and Cleveland ranked at the bottom. I'm irritated, as I always am, by this Forbes list that isn't even coherent. How can they say Cincy is the worst in 2002 and in 2006 all the sudden it's #1 for nightlife? Don't they see how illogical that is? I'm complaining about the magazine's dopey ranking methods. In the end, I couldn't care less which Ohio city ranks the best. Just rank them using some sort of method that makes sense.
July 27, 200618 yr So does that mean if I was working for Forbes, got caught stranded in a barn in Applecreek OH, drank moonshine and screwed a horny Amish girl...I could nominate Applecreek for #1 in nightlife? See my point...these are stupid polls....but at least Ohio got rep'd
July 27, 200618 yr This has been discussed ad nauseum previously, and it is difficult to understand exactly how the rankings are done. I think the two years Cincy was 39th all the category rankings seemed pretty good except for the "buzz", which is obviously subjective. That being said, having lived with the very low rankings it is nice to be see a move up last year and this year. If for no other reason than perception. I personally put little value on this but unfortunately the average reader does not ask these detailed questions. Columbus seems to have a good string on this list - good for them. Cleveland obviously has a lot of good things to offer singles so I would not be too worried about this - the real damage could come from how the Plain Dealer covers it, if at all.
July 27, 200618 yr I am amongst the biggest of the Cleveland boosters, but the singles seen, not so sure. Luckily I have a ball and chain already b/c there does not seem to be much out there. Most people are married and/ or with children in the 30's age range. But, I am open to being proven wrong (not testing it out of course) with your posts as I am not "out there". Where do you kids meet singles?
July 27, 200618 yr I am not from the midwest. what is a "cornhole" ? sounds obscene. I have heard people play it here out in the open, but still don't want to ask.
July 27, 200618 yr ^It's some bizarre beanbag-in-a-hole thing similar to horseshoes they play down south of I-480. It kills me that "cornholing" is a popular game at hetero bbq's whereas in the gay community ... well, I'll just stop there ;-) ""Cleveland sucks for singles!" Honey, this Clevelander has never sucked for money and if I did, you can bet your black @ss it would be for more than "$ingle$" :-D * Sorry folks - long day at work wrapped up with some happy hour drinks. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
July 27, 200618 yr so the nightlife is based only on the amount of bars, clubs, etc per capita? So this means that Cincy has more bars, clubs, etc per capita than any other place in the nation....am I right or wrong? If so, thats pretty cool for Cincy. They do need a centralized place though. Its funny how people base so much on the existence of a central, strip like scene.
July 27, 200618 yr Cornhole is a Cincinnati thing....while the name does suck (or not), it is fun because everyone can play and drink beer. Here's a goofy article about it, but I remember seeing UC students playing it in '96 or '97 so the Enquirer is obviously behind. http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2002/07/14/spt_worlds_best-kept.html
July 27, 200618 yr It's a game drunk west siders play in their back yards because theres nothing else to do on the west side :D You'll see UC students playing it all the time.
July 27, 200618 yr i swear cornhole was discussed on here before... I may have asked. my neighbors said they were playing "cornhole" and I was like oh man dont ask. but they said it w/o shame so I should have figured it was oK
July 27, 200618 yr "It's a game drunk west siders play in their back yards because theres nothing else to do on the west side" Ahem, that would be west side Cincinnati residents. We have plenty to do up here, thanks ;-) clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
July 27, 200618 yr Ohh, I know, good publicity blah blah, but come on. I love Cincinnati but #1 in nightlife? Let me guess, it was that great gay club scene there :lol: Amusing... Nice backhand Agassi! Seriously, do we need to show you the way to "The Dock" underneath an overpass for a good time? I am a little surprised by the ratings but like other Cincinnatians have said, it is good for perception since we finished 39 several years ago. Don't act like these rating don't mean anything. Perception is important and I have heard this stupid list mentioned more times than I could count when talking about Cincinnati nightlife. Bottom line is Forbes sucks but sadly the American people get caught up in lists and they do make headlines. My question is where is the headline in Cincinnati's media, when they were ranked 39th, it was a front page story in the Enquirer.
July 27, 200618 yr Seriously, do we need to show you the way to "The Dock" underneath an overpass for a good time? The Dock is out and Adonis is in (or so I hear) :)
July 27, 200618 yr "It's a game drunk west siders play in their back yards because theres nothing else to do on the west side" Ahem, that would be west side Cincinnati residents. We have plenty to do up here, thanks ;-) Well, they are right. West side of Cleveland has nothing to do either. Unless...you like...uh...getting shot? "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 27, 200618 yr I guess I am not in touch with the gay scene, I just googled it and found some amusing pics. - LOL A "dfly" quote from the Adonis website. Adonis was sooooooo hot last night.......met a nice PYT to take home...well worth the drive from Dayton.......i"ll be back soon.........love ya!!!!!!" --dfly
July 27, 200618 yr cornhole is played all the time up here at osu. speaking of cbus related things, I just watched the Fox news at 10 for cbus and they talked about these ratings. They noted that cincy was rated #1 for nightlife and then the guy said 'hey only an hour and a half away from here lets go' or something to that effect.
July 27, 200618 yr It's played up UP here as well...lot's of little bars even have cornhole leagues....Mayday...I am leaving that one open for you to finish! LOL
July 27, 200618 yr A "dfly" quote from the Adonis website. Adonis was sooooooo hot last night.......met a nice PYT to take home...well worth the drive from Dayton.......i"ll be back soon.........love ya!!!!!!" --dfly Ha! Hardly...I've been with my partner for almost 5 years now, so the social life started going downhill, well, about 5 years ago. :lol: Oh, and to tie this back into the discussion, I moved to Cincinnati single and then found myself a man. See, Cincinnati is a good city for singles. lol
July 27, 200618 yr "cornhole leagues....Mayday...I am leaving that one open for you to finish!" I'm sorry but you need to refer to the 'upscale bath house' thread in Projects and Construction ;-) clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
July 27, 200618 yr My question is where is the headline in Cincinnati's media, when they were ranked 39th, it was a front page story in the Enquirer. The reason it isn't in the Enquirer is because it is something POSITIVE about Cinci.....
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