October 25, 20195 yr 1 minute ago, TH3BUDDHA said: This article was frustrating to read. I can't believe the city is worried about more parking. If Rogue says it can work without the parking, give them their damn variance. Only throwing out Austin as an alternative city seems like too much of a coincidence, though. Trying to bring up bad memories to make the city give them what they want? Let's hope that's what they're going for!
October 25, 20195 yr 2 minutes ago, Zyrokai said: After reading the article in full, it's completely ridiculous. This will 100% be the city's fault if it's lost. the setback requirement is also laughable as well as the "large volumes of pedestrians" crap. I feel like this stuff as a whole will continue to hold Columbus back unless something major happens. Is the factory running 24 hours a day? Pretty sure they could just have people park there most of the time and shuttle them over or people can walk.
October 25, 20195 yr 51 minutes ago, TH3BUDDHA said: I imagine there are too many people invested in the auto industry that are causing this stuff to be held back. If you start building developments with no parking, people will need public transit and this will hurt their bottom line. Central Ohio benefits from the Japanese auto industry. Obviously the Honda plant, but I know some Japanese auto tech companies have brought their Amercian HQ to Dublin. Maybe I just have my tinfoil hat on, though. I don't think the Japanese auto industry lobbies politicians and the government in the way the American car companies do. In the past, though, the Big 3 have caused a lot of trouble for Ohio cities by lobbying the state and federal governments.
October 25, 20195 yr On the one hand, if Rogue is willing to have limited to no parking, that's up to them and how it affects their business. On the other hand, I really don't think it is terribly unreasonable for the city to demand a details off site parking plan and ride share plan before approving a variance. And perhaps I missed it but I didn't catch that rogue was going to build an off site deck. Just that parking will be available off site but no specification of where. If they were willing to build a garage, surely they could find the space on site to accommodate some sort of garage or nearby and specify the location. But again, they need to pony up the details instead of trying to call bluffs. And in this case, unlike a local team, I can see where there is a parking concern as many of the proposed events outline are not events the community is walking to but rather driving from other cities, hotels, etc. Edit: I will add that I wish other major event venues planned ride share factors better like airports. Designate an area and that where everyone meets their cars, buses in another, etc. Edited October 25, 20195 yr by DTCL11
October 25, 20195 yr ^^^Piggybacking of this.... Do you guys think Rouge will come back with some kind of a plan? I'm really bad at reading between lines sand I can't tell if they've already given up and are looking elsewhere or if they're going to try to give a plan to the city first.
October 25, 20195 yr 34 minutes ago, Zyrokai said: ^^^Piggybacking of this.... Do you guys think Rouge will come back with some kind of a plan? I'm really bad at reading between lines sand I can't tell if they've already given up and are looking elsewhere or if they're going to try to give a plan to the city first. I think they are throwing spaghetti at a wall and seeing what sticks. I think they truly want an arena and I think it makes great sense for the location but it seems they either were caught off guard on the parking or actually thought they would be granted a variance with little issue. It's all so vague that it's hard to gauge.
October 25, 20195 yr The Austin thing is just so out of left field. I can't think of a reason they would do that. They would have to compete with Texas Power Barbell more, wouldn't they? That's their main competition so maybe it IS smart to move into their territory. Who knows, but I'd think it'd be best to capture markets they're not already big into.
October 28, 20195 yr It will be a huge mistake if the city loses an arena, and the tourism dollars associated, over parking minimums. Just one more clear example of parking minimums holding Columbus back.
October 28, 20195 yr 1 hour ago, Ted said: It will be a huge mistake if the city loses an arena, and the tourism dollars associated, over parking minimums. Just one more clear example of parking minimums holding Columbus back. Parking minimums have no place in Columbus or any city for that matter. So many cities are ditching them and here we are, stopping projects because of them... Heck, Cincinnati even recently removed them in the basin neighborhoods. I just don't get Columbus' sudden pivot to target developers for traffic and parking snarls while being the ones who have ignored transit and infrastructure for decades. Edited October 28, 20195 yr by DevolsDance
October 28, 20195 yr 28 minutes ago, DevolsDance said: I just don't get Columbus' sudden pivot to target developers for traffic and parking snarls while being the ones who have ignored transit and infrastructure for decades. Because "putting developers on notice" shifts the narrative away from their decades of incompetence.
October 28, 20195 yr Brought to you by the same folks who ave made the 'road diets'. (Summit, Fourth, Indianola, Karl...)
October 28, 20195 yr 3 hours ago, GCrites80s said: And I'm not convinced that Ginther is up on his quality urbanism knowledge. He's not.
January 17, 20205 yr Milo-Grogan Leaders Tackle Challenges of Gentrification Head-On Charles Thompkins was born and raised in Milo-Grogan, and has been actively involved as a leader in the neighborhood for decades. That involvement has ranged from serving as Chair of the Milo-Grogan Area Commission, to helping put on the annual Milo Fest, to organizing a holiday toy drive that is now in its 35th year. “I’ve been doing this kind of stuff for over 40 years, and with my wife [Melissa] along with me for 20-some years,” he says, “but it’s different now.” Change is coming to the neighborhood, and Thompkins recognizes that new strategies will be needed moving forward. More below: https://www.columbusunderground.com/milo-grogan-leaders-tackle-challenges-of-gentrification-head-on-bw1 "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 10, 20205 yr New Single Family Homes Planned for Milo-Grogan New market-rate homes are starting to come online in Milo-Grogan. Local developer New City Homes has acquired a total of 18 new-build sites in the neighborhood, including a cluster of contiguous lots on East Second Avenue where work recently began on the first of five new single family homes. Chris Knoppe, Partner at New City Homes, said that the company has completed two homes so far elsewhere in the neighborhood and plans to develop the remaining lots incrementally over the next two years or so. Half of the parcels that the company owns were purchased from the Columbus Land Bank, which “allowed us to offer the initial houses at a lower price than otherwise possible for new construction.” He added that the 15-year tax abatement that was put in place for Milo-Grogan in 2017 will help to lower costs for the homeowner. “We make the application for that, then the buyer is the beneficiary,” Knoppe said. “Given rising construction costs, it allows us to build a house and still sell it at a price that might be high for the neighborhood, but to the home buyer…the total cost of ownership is reduced by 25 to 30 percent.” More below: https://www.columbusunderground.com/new-homes-milo-grogan-bw1 "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 29, 20204 yr Boys & Girls Clubs to build new HQ and clubhouse in Milo-Grogan It'll be able to serve hundreds of youth in the neighborhood. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/09/29/boys-girls-club-to-build-new-10m-hq-in-milo-grogan.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 9, 20204 yr Construction on New Boys & Girls Club in Milo-Grogan to Start Soon Construction is set to begin next month on a new Boys & Girls Club at 1012 Cleveland Ave. in Milo-Grogan. Demolition of the building that has served as the club’s home base for 65 years got started earlier this week. The Champion Companies, a local development and property management firm, is managing the permitting, design and engineering for the new building, while also taking the lead on fundraising. More below: https://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-on-new-boys-girls-club-in-milo-grogan-to-start-soon-bw1 "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 18, 20204 yr The Boys & Girls Club in Milo-Grogan is getting a major overhaul. this article has some more renderings of the outside, and also includes some inside renderings.
November 20, 20204 yr Boys & Girls Club (Thur. 11-19-20) Milo Arts Reynolds Avenue infill housing The Rise Apartment Complex View of Jeffery Park View from Jeffery Park Ohio Brewing Company production facility at 421 East 2nd Avenue
January 29, 20214 yr New Development Planned for Milo-Grogan A new development is planned for a 12-acre parcel of undeveloped land in the northeast corner of Milo-Grogan. Work could start as soon as this spring on the first of what could eventually be nine buildings on the site, each offering flex commercial and light industrial space for lease. The project, located at the eastern terminus of Camden Avenue, is being developed by East Milo Partners, LLC. Bob Lester is an investor and partner in the development and also the CEO of Dura-Seal, an asphalt and concrete contractor currently located nearby, at 731 Mulberry St. The company plans on moving its operations into one of the new buildings. More below: https://www.columbusunderground.com/new-development-planned-for-milo-grogan-bw1 & https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/01/29/12m-development-planned-for-milo-grogan.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 26, 20214 yr Boys & Girls Club of Central Ohio Milo-Grogan Clubhouse and Headquarters - 1012 Cleveland Ave (4-25-21) On the block just south of the new Boys & Girls Clubhouse a 4-story apartment building with commercial space has been proposed. Fencing has gone up around the site after the demolition of the two single story structures on the block sometime last year. Here is a site plan of the proposed building at 986 Cleveland Ave. The building received rezoning approval late last year. The applicant listed in the development is 5CL Properties which is an affiliate of Rogue Fitness. The Rogue Fitness is also pursuing the renovation of 574 E. Fifth Ave into a restaurant space. Single family infill housing by developer New City Homes on E 3rd Ave And on E 2nd Ave Additional infill on 2nd Ave Ohio Brewing Company production facility at 421 East 2nd Avenue
April 27, 20214 yr ^I like the style of the infill housing. Similar in scale to the old homes but with a modern take.
April 27, 20214 yr Love this healthy clip of development being seen in Milo-Grogan. I've always thought it was such a spunky, little neighborhood that always got overlooked. Glad it's having its time in the sun now.
April 27, 20214 yr Im going to be grumpy and I try not to be but Those New City homes are terrible aestetic and function. Unnecessary divided roof like that also required the need for box vents on the upper and lower slopes instead of a ridge vent. Plus an entire run of apron flashing without super easy access. Just a recipe for long term water issues on top of just poor aestheic. It's just a miss for me. They don't have to blend in with the surrounding. I like having the mix of traditional and modern but this is just kind of a lazy 'modern for the sake of being modern and different' design where the form just isn't worth It in the end.
April 27, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: Im going to be grumpy and I try not to be but Those New City homes are terrible aestetic and function. Unnecessary divided roof like that also required the need for box vents on the upper and lower slopes instead of a ridge vent. Plus an entire run of apron flashing without super easy access. Just a recipe for long term water issues on top of just poor aestheic. It's just a miss for me. They don't have to blend in with the surrounding. I like having the mix of traditional and modern but this is just kind of a lazy 'modern for the sake of being modern and different' design where the form just isn't worth It in the end. I have to admit I almost made a post yesterday about how I did not like the design of the new divided roof houses when they were announced, but now that they are there they don't look so bad. I don't mind them at all. Now I never thought about the water issue or any functionality, but the aesthetics of them are not as bad as I expected. There is something that just seems, I don't know...cheerful and upbeat to me. They look less expensive also than other infill but I am sure that is not the case. I also don't mind so much the other modern box ones, but somehow I keep expecting to see a light or electric pole blocking something and the sidewalks to disappear and it to be Nashville lol. *those rocks look so random and I would hate to have to mow the lawn around them. Edited April 27, 20214 yr by Toddguy
August 18, 20213 yr This is a pretty good article from the Dispatch regarding changes seen in the Milo-Grogan neighborhood: As developers and gentrification move in, some Milo-Grogan residents take a stand Mark Ferenchik Tim Carlin The Columbus Dispatch Daisy Milner owns five houses on East 4th Avenue, including the brick house where she lives. She has gardens in the backyards of several of them, and enjoys showing the okra, the peach trees, the beans, and the tomato vines climbing a fence to visitors. Milner, 89, is a Milo-Grogan area commissioner whose age is hardly a barrier to her daily activities, including dealing with constant offers to sell her homes. "Ten a day!" Milner said. Milo-Grogan is among the latest Columbus neighborhoods to see newfound interest by developers. https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2021/08/18/some-milo-grogan-property-owners-say-developers-wont-force-them-out/5457565001/
October 18, 20213 yr Boys & Girls Club of Central Ohio Milo-Grogan Clubhouse and Headquarters (10-13-21) No movement on the 4-story apartment building at 986 Cleveland Ave since fencing went up after building demolition earlier this year Infill on Starr Avenue Ohio Brewing Company production facility at 421 East 2nd Avenue Rogue Fitness redevelopment at 574 East Fifth into commercial/Restaurant space On the NW corner of Cleveland and 5th, work is beginning on an Advance Auto Parts
November 17, 20213 yr Exactly what this corridor needs: another gas station and an AAP right across from Auto Zone 🤮 Gas Station, Auto Parts Store Planned for Milo-Grogan “An auto parts store is currently under construction at the northwest corner of Fifth and Cleveland Avenues, and a gas station is planned for a 1.3-acre parcel on the east side of the intersection. The gas station, a Thorntons, would have access driveways on both Cleveland and Fifth, but would be built around the existing Church’s Chicken store on the corner. The project received a vote of approval from the Development Commission in May and has been submitted to City Council, according to staff, but has yet to scheduled for a vote. The approval was conditioned on brick piers and fencing being added to the edges of the site. The Development Commission approval came despite a recommendation of disapproval from city staff. A staff report cited the location of the Thorntons store as the primary issue – it sits back on the site, removed from both Cleveland and Fifth, whereas the city’s Urban Commercial Overlay requires new buildings to be constructed close to the street. The project will require the demolition of an existing, two-story office building at 638 E. Fifth Ave., as well as a one-story building at 1104 Cleveland Ave. that is occupied by Kingdom Life Church.” https://www.columbusunderground.com/gas-station-auto-parts-store-planned-for-milo-grogan-bw1/?fbclid=IwAR35gYW0AJl1XbDTk1UlzlKjYoreqH_cMSZ02RDZbd_pY6LyfD9HX7qIyOo Apparently these are okay, but the Rogue stadium is just too much 🙄
November 17, 20213 yr 26 minutes ago, amped91 said: Exactly what this corridor needs: another gas station and an AAP right across from Auto Zone 🤮 Gas Station, Auto Parts Store Planned for Milo-Grogan “An auto parts store is currently under construction at the northwest corner of Fifth and Cleveland Avenues, and a gas station is planned for a 1.3-acre parcel on the east side of the intersection. The gas station, a Thorntons, would have access driveways on both Cleveland and Fifth, but would be built around the existing Church’s Chicken store on the corner. The project received a vote of approval from the Development Commission in May and has been submitted to City Council, according to staff, but has yet to scheduled for a vote. The approval was conditioned on brick piers and fencing being added to the edges of the site. The Development Commission approval came despite a recommendation of disapproval from city staff. A staff report cited the location of the Thorntons store as the primary issue – it sits back on the site, removed from both Cleveland and Fifth, whereas the city’s Urban Commercial Overlay requires new buildings to be constructed close to the street. The project will require the demolition of an existing, two-story office building at 638 E. Fifth Ave., as well as a one-story building at 1104 Cleveland Ave. that is occupied by Kingdom Life Church.” https://www.columbusunderground.com/gas-station-auto-parts-store-planned-for-milo-grogan-bw1/?fbclid=IwAR35gYW0AJl1XbDTk1UlzlKjYoreqH_cMSZ02RDZbd_pY6LyfD9HX7qIyOo Apparently these are okay, but the Rogue stadium is just too much 🙄 The city council could still say no.
November 17, 20213 yr Just now, VintageLife said: The city council could still say no. That’s true. I guess we’ll see. That office building looks like it’s in good shape; it’s odd they’d want to tear it down.
November 29, 20213 yr The Advance Auto Parts starting to go up on the corner of 5th and Cleveland. Now I’d like to see Rogue do something with their building that sits next to it. Last I heard they were considering a restaurant?
November 29, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, amped91 said: The Advance Auto Parts starting to go up on the corner of 5th and Cleveland. Now I’d like to see Rogue do something with their building that sits next to it. Last I heard they were considering a restaurant? Would make a great surface parking lot! /s
January 14, 20223 yr Believe this thread is where this belongs. Looks like a larger retail building is being built on the NW corner of Cleveland Ave. and 5th Ave. Missed opportunity with ni residential units above the retail but at least this area is filling up some. Edited January 14, 20223 yr by 614love
January 14, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, 614love said: Believe this thread is where this belongs. Looks like a larger retail building is being built on the corner NW corner of Cleveland Ave. and 5th Ave. Missed opportunity with ni residential units above the retail but at least this area is filling up some. That will be an auto parts store
January 14, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, Luvcbus said: That will be an auto parts store I guess the only positive is that it won’t be hard to tear down in 5 years when it needs to be actual housing.
January 15, 20223 yr 18 hours ago, VintageLife said: I guess the only positive is that it won’t be hard to tear down in 5 years when it needs to be actual housing. "Disposable Architecture"
May 21, 20223 yr Ohio Brewing is finally open!!! Across the tracks from the bustling Italian Village. https://columbusunderground.com/ohio-brewing-company-marks-its-long-awaited-opening-in-milo-grogan-sp1/
May 25, 20223 yr Rogue Fitness Planning Bike Factory in Milo-Grogan The new factory is being built out in an existing warehouse at 470 E. Starr Ave. The building has been modified and added to over the years, but parts of it date to the 1920s, when the Timken Company first moved into the area. It is located immediately south of the 600,000-square-foot building Rogue built in 2016 to house its manufacturing, distribution, office and retail operations. Smith described the new bike that will be produced there as an “urban hard tail,” with “geared, single-speed, and electric hybrid variants..the frame will be made with US steel then laser cut, TIG welded then assembled at our factory.” “The plan will be to have an old-school bike shop in the retail area,” she added. “You will be able to test ride your bike on property.” The article also talks about the other projects Rogue has planned in the area, but they have no updates yet. Edited May 25, 20223 yr by VintageLife
May 25, 20223 yr I wonder if the Windsor and Joyce purchase might be the Arena. Would be a big shame if the commission's refusal to approve the parking variance for the Arena forced Rogue to put it out there.
May 25, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I wonder if the Windsor and Joyce purchase might be the Arena. Would be a big shame if the commission's refusal to approve the parking variance for the Arena forced Rogue to put it out there. Could be, but I feel like they maybe would have said that, because they had already presented plans for it, but who knows.
May 25, 20223 yr 49 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I wonder if the Windsor and Joyce purchase might be the Arena. Would be a big shame if the commission's refusal to approve the parking variance for the Arena forced Rogue to put it out there. That’s sorta what I was thinking. Either that, or another production/warehouse facility. Wish they would get started on the apartments too.
September 1, 20222 yr The Rogue mixed used project The Cleveland is also going back to city council in a couple weeks for new variance approvals, so this project is apparently still alive too!
September 1, 20222 yr 7 minutes ago, amped91 said: The Rogue mixed used project The Cleveland is also going back to city council in a couple weeks for new variance approvals, so this project is apparently still alive too! Is this the one that they made a big deal about parking? Hopefully underground units help it move along.
September 1, 20222 yr 6 hours ago, VintageLife said: Is this the one that they made a big deal about parking? Hopefully underground units help it move along. I don’t know about this one. I remember they were being difficult with the parking for the stadium Rogue wanted to build though.
September 1, 20222 yr It feels like the momentum from Italian Village is about to spill over onto Cleveland, which would be great to see. Especially if the Cleveland BRT line ends up happening.
September 1, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, FudgeRounds said: It feels like the momentum from Italian Village is about to spill over onto Cleveland, which would be great to see. Especially if the Cleveland BRT line ends up happening. I’ve had this same feeling, especially when those apartments were announced south of 3rd probably 5 years ago. Slowly but surely, even the autozone looks “good.”
September 2, 20222 yr I've always thought that AutoZone is in a weird place for one. I used to go there a lot though when I lived off of 5th and the Grandview NAPA didn't have what I needed and the one in the old Cord Camera on 5th hadn't opened yet, so what do I know? Especially since they put an Advance Auto Parts there now too. So Chicken District becomes Carburetor District. Edited September 2, 20222 yr by GCrites80s
September 6, 20222 yr On 8/31/2022 at 11:13 PM, amped91 said: The Rogue mixed used project The Cleveland is also going back to city council in a couple weeks for new variance approvals, so this project is apparently still alive too! CBF with a little more info: Rogue Fitness connected to plans for apartments, commercial space on Cleveland Avenue in Milo-Grogan “A group of entities tied to Rogue Fitness are working to build a mixed-use building on Cleveland Avenue in Milo-Grogan. The proposed plans include a five-story building with 90 apartments, 3,600 square feet of commercial space and a 274-square-foot patio. When Columbus City Council comes back into session on Sept. 12, the zoning committee will consider a variance for the 986 Cleveland Ave. site. Tony Celebrezze III, assistant director of the building and zoning services department, said the July 2021 ordinance rezoned the site, but after further planning, the applicants couldn't make some elements work so they're now asking for a variance. Once the variance is approved, the city will have to approve a site plan and building permits, Celebrezze told Columbus Business First.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/09/06/rogue-fitness-related-entities-plan-apartments-in.html
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