May 10, 200718 yr I don't even really enjoy strip clubs. What bothers me so much about this whole thing is that the bigoted, under-educated, overreaching, and dogmatic CCV clearly STILL has a tremendous amount of legislative influence. I mean why is this Miller guy sitting in with representatives, and making concessions on what changes he'll accept to the proposed bill? They make me sick, and if I ever leave Ohio, honestly, it will be because of groups like this. I guess I'm grumpy this morning.. Link to Article Cavaliers dancers get legislators' attention Thursday, May 10, 2007 Aaron Marshall Plain Dealer Bureau Columbus- The plain manila folders from Rep. Armond Budish were delivered one apiece to his fellow members on the Ohio House Judiciary Committee, as well as to the witness testifying before them. David Miller, a member of the Citizens for Community Values (CCV), the group pushing for strict new regulations on Ohio's strip clubs, joined lawmakers peering inside as Budish, a Beachwood Democrat, explained the contents. Inside: The definition of semi-nude used in the strip-club bill, which includes the phrase "the showing of female buttocks," a dictionary definition of buttocks, and a handful of pictures of the Cleveland Cavaliers dance team performing with their rear ends partially hanging out of their skimpy outfits. It was time for Budish's question: "How would this law not apply to the Cleveland Cavs dance team?" Real More...
May 10, 200718 yr After calling it a "bit of a stretch" to think the Cavs dancers would fall under the law, Miller conceded that his organization would entertain a change to the bill "so it does not cover the Cleveland Cavs dance team," as the standing-room-only crowd laughed. That makes me feel a little better. On the radio, I've been hearing more and more politicians on both side beginning to speak their disapproval and annoyance. One guy from Cincinnati said "we have many other issues we should be focused on for the future of this state." Reading this article, I just had a image in my head of 30-50 people (men and women!) being escorted out of the Q for getting too close to the Cavs girls...some just trying to get a hot dog or to their seats...
May 10, 200718 yr The whole thing seems to be quite ridiculous! The CCV's legal backing seems to be shaky at best and it is questionable whether their signatures are even legit (surprise, surprise). I'm glad the CCV is getting some attention statewide, because now it is starting to really expose how ridiculous their group is. I would hope that this makes it harder for people in Cincy to get behind this crap organization.
May 11, 200718 yr I think it already passed and is now being scrutinized. Ohio Senate OKs strip club restrictions Bill would limit hours, puts distance minimum between nude or semi-nude performers and customers. http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2007/04/17/ddn041807sexclubs.html
May 22, 200718 yr MPAA opposes strip club bill May 22, 2007 | THE ASSOCIATED PRESS COLUMBUS, Ohio - The Motion Picture Association of America opposes a bill that would prohibit strip club patrons from touching dancers because the measure under consideration in the Ohio Senate includes language referring to the association's rating system. The association, an advocate of the motion picture, home video and television industries, sent a memo to Gov. Ted Strickland's office essentially asking him to veto the measure if it is not changed, The Columbus Dispatch reported Tuesday. "You can't incorporate a private trade association's voluntary rating system into law and make it a legal standard," association lobbyist Vans Stevenson said. Read More...
May 23, 200718 yr Strickland won't sign strip bill 'Silly' no-touch issue has gotten too much attention, governor says COLUMBUS - A bill that puts new strip-club regulations in place in Ohio, including a ban on patrons and dancers touching each other, will become law without Gov. Ted Strickland's signature, a spokesman said Tuesday. The Senate on Tuesday voted 25-8 to adopt the House version on the measure that includes a rule prohibiting patrons from touching dancers rather than keeping them 6 feet away at all times, as originally proposed. There was no debate. In light of economic, educational and other problems Ohioans face, the debate over the bill was "silly," Strickland said before the Senate voted. "I think this issue has consumed too much time and attention." Read More...
May 24, 200718 yr It sounds like Governor Strickland is going to let it become a law without signing it. I recall that his predecessor, Taft, let a bill proceed to become a law automatically in ten days by not signing it. Then Strickland was sworn in as governor during that ten day period and vetoed it.
July 3, 200717 yr From the 5/31/07 (OU) Post: PHOTO: Ohio University sophomore and exotic pole dancer Jasmine Manista spreads her wardrobe out on her bed as she tries to decide what to wear for a performance at a private party. At Rachel’s Showbar in Canal Winchester, an exotic pole dancer dances onstage to upbeat music, occasionally pausing as onlookers put dollar bills in her garter. Kristin Eberts / Photo Editor / [email protected] PHOTO: Jasmine Manista straps on a pair of her tallest platform heels as she gets ready to perform at a private party on May 18. Kristin Eberts / Photo Editor / [email protected] New law means changes for the adult entertainment industry Ashley Lutz / For The Post / [email protected] In just a couple of months, this will be illegal. Ohio Senate passed a law May 16 imposing new restrictions on strip clubs that includes a rule that dancers must be at least six feet away from patrons at all times. The law will take effect in late August. The law has many industry professionals concerned that the boundaries will hurt business. Read More...
July 3, 200717 yr From the 6/8/07 Dispatch: Right to touch dancers may be in voters' hands Opponents seek referendum on strip-club law Friday, June 8, 2007 3:36 AM By Mark Niquette THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH Ohio voters would decide whether touching nude dancers should be illegal if a group opposing a new strip-club law gets its way. Opponents of Senate Bill 16, which passed the legislature last month and imposes new restrictions on strip clubs in Ohio, plan to put a referendum on the November ballot to overturn the law. The law doesn't go into effect until Sept. 4, but the opponents want to collect 241,366 valid signatures by Sept. 3 to put the law on hold until voters decide its fate in the Nov. 6 election. Read More...
July 3, 200717 yr From the Other Paper, 6/14/07: Gay male revues might fall victim to stripper law By Erik Johns / June 14, 2007 When Ohio lawmakers passed a law banning strippers from touching customers or performing after midnight, their stated goal was to reduce crime and other alleged immoral activity surrounding strip joints. But the topless bars around town aren’t the only clubs that face new restrictions. Several of Columbus’s gay bars will fall under the auspices of Senate Bill 16, which goes into effect in September. Multiple clubs, including Axis and Havana in the Short North, regularly hold male revue nights featuring nearly-nude dancers. According to the language of the law, any bar that operates regular nude or semi-nude shows is classified as an “adult cabaret.” Read More...
July 3, 200717 yr From the 6/16/07 Blade: Attorney general approves petition drive for foes of stripper law BLADE COLUMBUS BUREAU COLUMBUS - Ohio strip club owners and performers fighting new restrictions passed by the General Assembly received a green light yesterday from the attorney general to begin gathering signatures to put the issue directly to voters in November. Attorney General Marc Dann yesterday determined that a summary of the language that would appear on the petitions is a "fair and truthful statement" of the proposed ballot question's impact. Citizens for Community Standards, a play on the name of the conservative Cincinnati-based Citizens for Community Values that championed the law, wants to ask voters to repeal it. Read More...
July 4, 200717 yr "If these folks from Cincinnati are hell-bent on passing these regulations, then let them go to the Cincinnati City Council and get it passed there, and leave the rest of the state to our own designs," he said. Bullshit. No one I know in Cincinnati is hell-bent on it, and I sincerely doubt city council would pass it. Take it up with the residents of Sharonville, West Chester, Mason, etc. (those either affiliated or supportive of the ccv) who want to have as little to do with the city as we want with them.
July 7, 200717 yr This case could be similar to the Marx Bros v Warner Bros Casablanca case or even weirder as there are already other organizations called Citizens for Community Standards out there that are probably more in line with the agenda of the CCV. Cincy group: Hey, that's OUR name A conservative Sharonville Christian group that succeeded in getting the state Legislature to place new restrictions on strip clubs is accusing an opposition group of copying its name to confuse the public over a ballot initiative. The law, which takes effect Sept. 4, prohibits patrons from touching strippers and halts nude dancing after midnight. The statewide crackdown cleared the Republican-controlled Legislature in May and was allowed to become law by Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland without his signature. Strip club owners and other opponents are trying to overturn the law by collecting enough signatures to place the issue on the November ballot. They call themselves Citizens for Community Standards, a swipe at Sharonville-based Citizens for Community Values, the religious group that pushed for the restrictions. Read More...
July 7, 200717 yr "If these folks from Cincinnati are hell-bent on passing these regulations, then let them go to the Cincinnati City Council and get it passed there, and leave the rest of the state to our own designs," he said. Bullshit. No one I know in Cincinnati is hell-bent on it, and I sincerely doubt city council would pass it. Take it up with the residents of Sharonville, West Chester, Mason, etc. (those either affiliated or supportive of the ccv) who want to have as little to do with the city as we want with them. Bingo...
July 9, 200717 yr (this would never happen in Michigan). Uh... "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
August 7, 200717 yr Dancers say they'll get enough signatures to block strip-club law Law set to take effect Sept. 4, but group has until Sept. 3 to gather enough signatures to put issue on ballot. By William Hershey Monday, August 06, 2007 COLUMBUS — Representatives of 'Dancers for Democracy' said Monday they're confident they'll gather enough signatures to put the issue on the Nov. 6 ballot to block a bill regulating strip clubs from taking effect as scheduled Sept. 4. Meanwhile, Citizens for Community Values, the Cincinnati-based group that backed the bill, plans to air a radio ad statewide soon explaining what the proposed law would do and what?s behind the signature-gathering drive opposing it, said David Miller, CCV vice president. Read More...
August 14, 200717 yr Strippers say they have enough signatures to block no-touch law Group wants ballot vote on measure that would limit club hours, institute no-touch rule. By Laura A. Bischoff Tuesday, August 14, 2007 COLUMBUS — Dancers for Democracy has enough petition signatures to at least temporarily block enforcement of an anti-adult business law scheduled to take effect Sept. 4, said Sandy Theis, the group's spokeswoman. The group has collected 248,673 signatures as of Monday, which is slightly more than the required 241,366 valid voter signatures. They plan to continue collecting signatures for several weeks since often a high percentage of petition signatures are ruled invalid. If 241,366 signatures are deemed valid by the county boards of elections, voters will be asked Nov. 6 whether to repeal the law. Read More...
August 24, 200717 yr Stripper law may go to voters By Laura A. Bischoff Friday, August 24, 2007 COLUMBUS — Citizens for Community Standards continues to collect 8,000 to 9,000 petition signatures every day, with the goal of gathering 450,000 so that they easily clear the required 241,366 valid voter signatures needed to put a repeal of Ohio's new stripper law on the November ballot, said lobbyist Neil Clark. The law is scheduled to take effect Sept. 3 but will likely be blocked once signatures are turned in, said Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner. Then county boards of elections have 10 days to check signatures and report back to Brunner's office. If Citizens for Community Standards lacks enough valid signatures, it has 10 more days to collect enough. Read More...
August 26, 200717 yr The CCV and the antismoking zealots....proving that the concept of minding one's own business is endangered from elements of both the left and the right.
August 26, 200717 yr I hope these strippers bust the balls of the CCV on this one. (no pun intended) (okay...maybe it was just too easy to pass up)
October 19, 200717 yr It appears that they didn't get enough valid signatures. I signed it but they were not checking for valid registered voters. This is total crap. Phil Buress is a recovering PORN ADDICT!! He should have left things alone. I will miss going to Diamonds in Centerville becasue you were able to bring your own alcohol and it was open until 5 am. There used to be 30 dancers at 3 AM on a Saturday now there are less than 10. THIS SUCKS!! No Link for article
October 20, 200717 yr The CCV and the antismoking zealots....proving that the concept of minding one's own business is endangered from elements of both the left and the right. Oh there was an overlap here. Just from what I picked up from coworkers a lot of the christian types were pretty gung-ho on the antismoking ban too. So, whats next on CCVs agenda? It seems they are running out of moral causes, at least low-hanging- fruit ones.
November 7, 200717 yr So this did make the ballot, but I cannot find anything about how it did...anyone know?
November 7, 200717 yr The election worker told me that the issue was on the ballot, but that the votes did not count because "they did not get enough valid signatures". The wording was tortured, so I did not bother to vote. From your friendly atheist antismoking zealot
November 7, 200717 yr So, whats next on CCVs agenda? "It seems they are running out of moral causes, at least low-hanging- fruit ones." As long as they keep getting away with banning that which they consider "wrong", they'll keep pushing. The religious right and the "PC" left has different causes, but their communitarian impulses are very similar.
January 17, 200817 yr Bump Because Diamonds is a private club this law does not affect them. Business as usual. Although it has hurt business things are beginning to turn around by word of mouth. Definitely good news for us late night party animals!!
January 17, 200817 yr Bump Because Diamonds is a private club this law does not affect them. Business as usual. Although it has hurt business things are beginning to turn around by word of mouth. Definitely good news for us late night party animals!! Be careful or they'll just try to rewrite the law to cover "private clubs" like they did the smoking law.
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