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How many times will the same retail be replicated around here?  I'm getting tired of these development concepts.  I know its market reality but it is also frustrating.

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    The roads around Newport Pavilion are so poorly designed they inspired this video:    

Water lines will get Newport project flowing

BY LISA BIANK FASIG | CINCINNATI BUSINESS COURIER

July 27, 2007

 

NEWPORT - The Newport Pavilion project might be looking more like a dust bowl than a future retail center these days, but that will change as soon as the water lines are down.

 

That has been the longest delay in getting this project moving - designing the water retention system - said Tom Fromme, Newport's city manager. Up until a few months ago the project's developer, Bear Creek Capital, was planning on using a retention pond for storm water and the like. But city officials thought the pond would degrade the integrity of the project, so Bear Creek opted to instead build underground retention tanks.

 

I am sure Bear Creek wasn't too happy about that, it is a whole lot more expensive than a retention pond.

  • 3 months later...

Newport Pavilion moving forward

Store expected to open in a year

BY SCOTT WARTMAN | CINCINNATI ENQUIRER

November 14, 2007

 

NEWPORT - The approach of winter doesn't discourage the developer of the Newport Pavilion Shopping Center: The first store is expected to open before Thanksgiving 2008.

 

Construction crews have spent the past two months installing sewer lines and retaining walls on the site near Interstate 471, and it will take another 30 days to finish that phase, according to developer Bear Creek Capital.

 

Within about two months, the developer anticipates grading the barren hillsides where the last homes from Newport's Cote Brilliante neighborhood were torn down early this year.

 

Kroger Marketplace will open first, said Steve Kelly, Bear Creek director of development.

 

The Kroger Marketplace, a larger version of the grocery store with more general merchandise, will anchor the 450,000-square-foot shopping center with Home Depot and Target, which are slated for spring 2009 openings.

 

  • 3 months later...

Home Depot pulls out as Newport Pavilion anchor

BY LISA BIANK FASIG | CINCINNATI BUSINESS COURIER

February 15, 2008

 

NEWPORT - Home Depot has canceled plans to become the third anchor at the developing Newport Pavilion shopping center, and its developer is seeking several junior tenants to fill the space.

 

The home improvement chain said it had backed out of a deal to build the 130,000-square-foot store at the center, on Grand Avenue and Interstate 471, but did not provide specifics. Other committed tenants are Target and Kroger, which plans to construct a large-format Marketplace store at the site.

 

"As they went further along and tried to develop the deal, it just didn't make sense for our business," Home Depot spokeswoman Jennifer King said.

 

The center is being developed by Blue Ash-based Bear Creek Capital. Bear Creek Principal Matt Daniels said his

 

firm and Home Depot couldn't agree on certain aspects of the deal.

 

^ The tenant mix has plagued this project since day one.  Thank God it wasn't Target that pulled out, because that would raise the spectre of Wal-Mart again, and I just don't have the energy to watch that play out for a second time.  There's not a Best Buy anywhere near this location, which would serve downtown, Clifton, and all of Campbell County.  I think the nearest ones are in Florence and Eastgate, so as I gaze into my crystal ball, I see clearly that the "electronics chain" referenced is indeed a Best Buy, which will become the new tenant.  Mark it, dude.

Well that is a pisser for the project, plus that Home Depot would be ultra convenient for me!

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i wonder what will become of the nearby kroger in bellevue...

^They claim that they'll leave it open to serve Bellevue, but I don't see how that's a viable option.  My guess is that they'll see what the numbers look like when both stores are operating together and then make a decision.

i wonder what will become of the nearby kroger in bellevue...

 

I was thinking the same thing. $5 says it closes.

I think $5 is about all Kroger has spent improving that Bellvue store in the last 17 years that I have been shopping there.  Meanwhile, the Hyde Park location where all their execs shop gets a multi million dollar upgrade every time the wind blows.

Are there renderings of this yet?

  • 3 months later...

Newport Pavilion adds Chipotle

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20081024/NEWS0103/310240086/1055/NEWS

 

Construction on the first tenant in the Newport Pavilion has started in the past week as new restaurants and stores were announced.

 

The construction crews started building the foundation wall of the 120,000-square-foot Kroger Marketplace – scheduled to open late spring/early summer 2009. In addition, developer Bear Creek announced this week a Chipotle restaurant will join the Newport Pavilion roster. The developer is close to a deal with Chick-Fil-A, but still must sign a lease, said Peter Goffstein, chief development officer for Bear Creek.

 

Bear Creek also revealed other tenants – a Famous Footwear, Cincinnati Bell/T-Mobile cell phone store, Tire Discounters, Cincinnati Tan and a Chinese restaurant. Previously announced tenants include a Target and Buffalo Wild Wings.

 

The developer is still negotiating with Logan’s Steakhouse and the International House of Pancakes, which Goffstein said have put expansion plans on hold during the slow economy.

 

Are there renderings of this yet?

 

I've got this site plan, but I haven't found any renderings.

 

NewportPavilion_siteplan.jpg

I'm not sure that we really need renderings anyway.  Honestly, if you've seen one Target, Kroger, or Chipotle, you've pretty much seen them all.

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Newport Target now looking at 2010 opening

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/01/19/daily50.html

 

The Target store planned for Newport is now scheduled for no earlier than spring 2010, further delayed by construction complications at the project.

 

“We’re committed to bringing a new Target to Newport, however at this point it is premature to confirm an opening date,” spokeswoman Anna Anderson said. She explained that Target does not provide opening dates for stores outside of its 12-month schedule.

 

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Newport Pavilion readying ground for new tenants

Stormwater pipes are next step before stores can build

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/03/02/story8.html

 

With final permits in place, workers at the developing Newport Pavilion project are expected to soon lay pipes and prepare the project for its next line of retail and restaurant tenants.

 

Stormwater permits recently were approved, clearing the way for developers to dig a basin near LaRosas on Carothers Road. The plan had been to build massive underwater tanks, but that endeavor proved to be too expensive and too challenging an engineering feat, said Newport City Manager Tom Fromme.

 

 

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Newport Pavilion target of liens

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/03/09/daily46.html

 

A second substantial lien has been filed against the developing Newport Pavilion project in Northern Kentucky, bringing the value of such liens to roughly $7.5 million since January.

 

Ford Development Corp., a Sharonville-based construction company, on Feb. 19 filed a $4.8 million mechanics lien against Newport Pavilion LLC. The complaint follows others, including one worth $2.6 million by Maxim Crane Works.

 

 

  • 5 months later...

Newport Pavilion ready to enter marketplace

Another anchor sought, Target store on track

Business Courier of Cincinnati - by Lisa Biank Fasig

 

Developers literally had to move mountains of dirt to put a new shopping center in Newport, and by September the first songs of the cash register should be heard.

 

It was a long haul. Plans for the 56-acre property, along Interstate 471, were conceived in 2002. Once a hilly, residential neighborhood, the property was purchased through eminent domain, razed and then leveled. About 1.6 million cubic yards of dirt had to be trucked in to the site, whose many hills were leveled and filled in.

 

The city of Newport issued $2 million in industrial revenue bonds to finance the $90 million project, which is being developed by Bear Creek Capital of Montgomery through a development agreement with the city.

 

Read full article here:

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/08/17/focus7.html

Everything about this project angers me.  You have the old Remke Markets site in Newport, yet we're absolutely destroying a natural hillside for more retail.  This angers me to the production of a dozen expletives.

 

I understand that they (the said developer) was hungry for a large land area, which probably wasn't otherwise available so close to the river.  That being said, this is further evidence of how PUDs destroy what we can never recreate.

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Man, why can't Nky get anything done?  All you have to do is look across the river to Cincinnati and you see cranes everywhere, towers being built, and stuff getting done.  :evil:

 

Troubles stall Newport Pavilion plans

By Laura Baverman, Cincinnati Enquirer | February 23, 2010

 

Troubles are mounting for developer Bear Creek Capital at its $90 million Newport Pavilion, home to Kroger's newest Marketplace store.  Target, which was scheduled to open there in 2009, is still at least a year away from starting business at the 56-acre hillside site along Interstate 471, a store spokesman said Tuesday.

 

Kroger is still waiting on a costly stormwater pipe repair to open its fuel station at the site. And nearly $1 million in liens have been filed since October against Newport Pavilion LLC, an affiliate of the developer and owner of the property.  One contractor says he's owed nearly $200,000 for landscaping work he completed last summer. That's enough to prevent him from opening his garden center in Evendale this spring for the first time in 22 years, he said.

 

Read full article here:

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100223/BIZ01/2240351/1055/NEWS/Troubles+stall+Newport+Pavilion

What a fiasco. The City of Newport allowed the developer to demolish an entire prewar residential neighborhood and bulldoze half a hillside in order to clear land for that place, and now it looks like it will be a Kroger store surrounded by vacant lots. Meanwhile, there's three skanky strip malls that already exist along Carothers Road, any one of which that could've been bought and redeveloped to accommodate Kroger, Target, Old Navy, etc. I hope some heads roll for this, but I doubt they will. They never do.

Man, why can't Nky get anything done?  All you have to do is look across the river to Cincinnati and you see cranes everywhere, towers being built, and stuff getting done.  :evil:

 

Like, Kenwood? The grass lots on McMillian and Calhoun by UC? Etc. :P

The Bear Creek fallout continues, what a clusterf***.  If someone from there doesn't go to jail then there is something very wrong with our judicial system.

Funny thing...that ole' neighborhood is still registered as a historic district.  Ahhh historic Kroger Marketplace how you feel so old timey. 

 

This project has been plagued with problems from the beginning and the developer and interested parties sweeping problems like the storm water pipe under the table.  I am not surprised given Beer Creeks track record with the Kenwood project and the project in South Lebanon.

“All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche

Man, why can't Nky get anything done?  All you have to do is look across the river to Cincinnati and you see cranes everywhere, towers being built, and stuff getting done.  :evil:

 

Like, Kenwood? The grass lots on McMillian and Calhoun by UC? Etc. :P

 

It's a comparison of downtown areas.  No one from Nky back in the day was talking about Cincinnati's northern suburban communities, or a project in Uptown, they were talking about downtown Cincinnati compared to downtown Newport and Covington.  The whole point of the comment was to highlight the silliness that the whole debate was by showing these things go in cycles and are really determined on a project by project basis...not the municipality in which they exist.

Newport Pavilion = Epic Fail

Man, why can't Nky get anything done? All you have to do is look across the river to Cincinnati and you see cranes everywhere, towers being built, and stuff getting done. :evil:

 

Like, Kenwood? The grass lots on McMillian and Calhoun by UC? Etc. :P

 

It's a comparison of downtown areas. No one from Nky back in the day was talking about Cincinnati's northern suburban communities, or a project in Uptown, they were talking about downtown Cincinnati compared to downtown Newport and Covington. The whole point of the comment was to highlight the silliness that the whole debate was by showing these things go in cycles and are really determined on a project by project basis...not the municipality in which they exist.

 

Good stuff!

It's pretty much the same story as that new shopping center in Crescent Springs. I think I liked the tree filled trailer park better.

Everywhere I go in the Cincinnati/NKY area all I see are Kroger, Target, and Chipotles. I'm so sick of seeing them.

On arrival in Cincinnati for my first time almost 2 years ago I saw digging out of the bluff for this project and it absolutely disgusted me.  It really gave me a bad impression about the priorities of the area in general that I am now overcoming. But yikes.  This project is bad.

On arrival in Cincinnati for my first time almost 2 years ago I saw digging out of the bluff for this project and it absolutely disgusted me.  It really gave me a bad impression about the priorities of the area in general that I am now overcoming. But yikes.  This project is bad.

 

I agree, if you're going to obliterate a beautiful hillside then at least give me something better than a cheap strip retail center with hom-hum retailers.

Everywhere I go in the Cincinnati/NKY area all I see are Kroger, Target, and Chipotles. I'm so sick of seeing them.

Got to have them. They are the only places that are producing jobs.

It's really the priorities of Newport and a lot of other local governments.  They need the tax revenue and that neighborhood wasn't making them enough $$.  And sadly, it makes a lot of money for looking like suburban crap. :(

“All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche

Everywhere I go in the Cincinnati/NKY area all I see are Kroger, Target, and Chipotles. I'm so sick of seeing them.

Got to have them. They are the only places that are producing jobs.

 

Are people going to stop buying goods if Kroger and Target don't exist?  Are people going to stop eating at restaurants if Chipotle doesn't exist?

^ I would. I've got to have my Chipotle.

 

Did anyone notice how the rendered aerial is totally embellished with buildings that aren't in the site plan? Was there going to be more of a lifestyle main street at some point in this process?

  • 2 months later...

The clusterfuck continues.

 

Issues still plague Newport Pavilion

Financial troubles for owner, developer remain

By Scott Wartman, Kentucky Enquirer, May 5, 2010

 

NEWPORT - The damaged storm water pipe under the Newport Pavilion Shopping Center that has held up development on the site will be repaired in the next four months, Newport's city manager said.

 

But other issues with the 56-acre site in south Newport remain.

Several Bear Creek people need to go to jail!

Newport Pavilion: Where Dumb Public Officials Approved the Massive Removal of a Hillside for a Shitty Suburban Strip Mall Development by Corrupt Developers.

Looks like a boondoggle, walks like a boondoggle, smells like a boondoggle. Funny how you never hear a peep from COAST about Bear Creek's boondoggles in Newport or Kenwood.

  • 2 weeks later...

Newport Pavilion: Where Dumb Public Officials Approved the Massive Removal of a Hillside for a sh!tty Suburban Strip Mall Development by Corrupt Developers.

 

I hear that.

 

Long after the strip mall is dead, the hillside will never come back.  You couldn't bring it back if you wanted.

Sad part is, there's already three semi-dead strip malls along that stretch of Carothers Road. How hard would it have been for Bear Creek or some other developer to take over, say, Newport Shopping Center, renovate it and re-brand it, and put in the big Kroger and Target stores they wanted?

Anywhere in the world, it could be forever reiterated: we will never get that hillside back. No one will. Never again.

 

"What a shame" would be understatement of the century.

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  • 2 years later...

Went by this yesterday. They are building what appears to be a small strip development next to the Kroger gas station and trucks have been lining up around the space between Target and Kroger.

“All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche

  • 1 year later...

Dicks looks like it is ready to open or already is open.

 

The place is a traffic nightmare during the lunch hour.

“All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche

^I heard that Panera is ready to open as well.

Weren't they originally planning to build a Lowe's or Home Depot in between the Kroger and Target? Instead, they have filled that space with several smaller retailers including Michael's, PetSmart or equivalent, and maybe a few more.

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