May 7, 200916 yr Gee, I wonder how long it will be before this news about the Public Hall hosting medical conferences in a year makes it into the local catbox liner? And if this news does make it, will it be FCE-free? I'm taking wagers... Cat Box Liner! LMAO!!
May 7, 200916 yr Cat Box Liner! LMAO!! My cats rip those to shreds. Perhaps I should unleash them on the PeeDee.......
May 7, 200916 yr Cuyahoga County commissioners formally approved an agreement this morning to buy Cleveland's old convention center for $20 million. If Cleveland City Council also signs off, the sale agreement allows the county and its private-sector partner, Merchandise Mart Properties Inc. to use the downtown site for a new convention center and related mart to showcase medical technology and equipment. More at http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/05/cuyahoga_county_commissioners_8.html#previewCLEVELAND
May 8, 200916 yr Friday May 08, 2009, 5:00 AM If the Cleveland City Council votes as expected Monday evening, one of the key early hurdles toward building a convention center-medical mart complex downtown will have been cleared -- and with minimal rancor. Though some critics of locating the new project at Malls B and C clearly hoped that Mayor Frank Jackson would somehow scuttle the deal, he did no such thing. More at http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2009/05/making_room_for_med_mart.html
May 8, 200916 yr Sounds like the county needs to get a developer to build its new consolidated HQ, like on West Third on one of those Warehouse District parking lots (or to take over the East Ohio building on East 9th Street). But that's a subject for another thread. Amazingly, we never had one devoted specifically to a new county administration building... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 8, 200916 yr contrair mofrair http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,13342.0.html though a lot of discussion is tied up in the ameritrust proposal as they were pretty intertwined for awhile... maybe one day I will separate.
May 8, 200916 yr Sounds like the county needs to get a developer to build its new consolidated HQ, like on West Third on one of those Warehouse District parking lots (or to take over the East Ohio building on East 9th Street). But that's a subject for another thread. Amazingly, we never had one devoted specifically to a new county administration building... Sorry to go off topic, but I too was thinking that this could be a place for the county, if no hotel or apartment/condo developer take the building.
May 8, 200916 yr contrair mofrair http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,13342.0.html though a lot of discussion is tied up in the ameritrust proposal as they were pretty intertwined for awhile... maybe one day I will separate. Dammit! I spent a whole minute of my precious life looking for that friggin' thread! And I'll never get that minute back!! :-P "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 8, 200916 yr It would be a shame for the County to lose it's presence on the Mall surrounded by the rest of the seats of government, not to mention the time and money involved in such a major move. I like the idea of the MM facing Public Square and the opening up of the Mall from that perspective and the sparkle it would add to St.Clair Avenue.
May 8, 200916 yr While it would be a shame for the county to lose its mall presense, it would also be a shame for that particular building to remain there, for any purpose. It's awful. It goes a long way toward ruining the mall altogether with the sheer force of its ugliness. I've been hoping that somehow the county ends up moving as a result of this project. I hope that lenghy holdouts isn't the reason, and that the project isn't delayed, but also I think any renovation of the mall is a little bit silly if that county building doesn't come down.
May 8, 200916 yr spanish, i got... whatever language that is... not so much. :) Yeah!!! Spanish is the only other language you'll need to know/understand anyway! ;) ;)
May 9, 200916 yr If mart is built on administration building site, where will county offices go? Posted by Joe Guillen/Plain Dealer Reporter May 08, 2009 17:08PM Categories: Breaking News, Business Impact, Cuyahoga County government, Medical Mart, Real Estate News Impact, Real Time News CLEVELAND — Cuyahoga County officials envision moving out of their downtown administration building either to make way for a new medical mart or other development. They contend that the footprint of their building at Lakeside Avenue and Ontario Street is ideally suited for a new hotel to complement the proposed mart -- a showcase for medical equipment -- and a new convention center. More at http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/05/if_mart_is_built_on_administra.html
May 9, 200916 yr "We're not going to be held up by those three property owners, period," Hagan said. I would suggest Ol' Tim not mention hold ups. That is not a can of worms he should be opening ;) nor a good way to start good faith negotiations.
May 9, 200916 yr contrair mofrair You really butchered that one, Mayor. :) Just so I can throw my high school knowledge of French around, it's "Au contraire, mon frère." I'm glad the county is thinking about leaving.
May 9, 200916 yr "I'm glad the county is thinking about leaving." Probably moving to Geauga or Medina County.
May 9, 200916 yr "I'm glad the county is thinking about leaving." Probably moving to Geauga or Medina County.
May 11, 200916 yr Mayor Frank Jackson wants to keep bed tax proceeds to help close future budget gaps by Henry J. Gomez/Plain Dealer Reporter Monday May 11, 2009, 1:58 PM Mayor Frank Jackson wants to use Cleveland's bed tax proceeds to help plug anticipated holes in the city's budget next year, his finance director said today. The bed tax, which supports the city's outdated convention center, would be directed to the general fund under legislation that Jackson is seeking from the City Council. More at http://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/index.ssf/2009/05/mayor_frank_jackson_wants_to_k.html
May 13, 200916 yr Leasing Director - Cleveland Medical Mart http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?IPath=QHCM&ff=21&APath=2.21.0.0.0&job_did=J8F1TQ6V3TDF1K9N04M&cbRecursionCnt=1&cbsid=f5d7c32946de40788b725b3d7745bdd9-295533950-RE-4 Posted in Career thread http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,10741.msg395270.html#new
May 14, 200916 yr <a href=http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20090513/FREE/905139945>Marketing of medical merchandise mart concept is under way</a> By JAY MILLER 3:06 pm, May 13, 2009 The company that will build and operate the planned convention center and medical merchandise mart on Cleveland’s Mall isn’t waiting for Cuyahoga County to wrap up site details and already has begun to market the concept to medical manufacturers. More at http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20090513/FREE/905139945
May 14, 200916 yr These guys seem to be on top of their stuff. This concept makes so much sense. Not just because we will see increased traffic at the convention center, we may actually see some manufactures set up shop here.
May 14, 200916 yr These guys seem to be on top of their stuff. This concept makes so much sense. Not just because we will see increased traffic at the convention center, we may actually see some manufactures set up shop here. HUH?? That's the exact purpose of the medical mart. So that manufactures can set up showrooms. It's not a "may" it is a definite. Does everyone understand what a "mart" is?
May 14, 200916 yr Mr. Madden said MMPI’s strategy will be to subsidize the showrooms of the first 25 companies that sign on to come to the medical mart. I like this part of the article, since it shows they are aiming high right off the bat. As we all know, they are here to make money on their own initiatives...which benefits for the region and the city in so many ways.
May 14, 200916 yr These guys seem to be on top of their stuff. This concept makes so much sense. Not just because we will see increased traffic at the convention center, we may actually see some manufactures set up shop here. HUH?? That's the exact purpose of the medical mart. So that manufactures can set up showrooms. It's not a "may" it is a definite. Does everyone understand what a "mart" is? I believe sir2gees was talking about manufacturers moving their entire operations here... in addition to a showroom space in the mart.
May 14, 200916 yr MTS, Sorry if I confused you. I mean some of these manufacturers may actually relocate here, as opposed to just having showrooms here. Some may actually manufacturer products in Cleveland along with showing these products at the med mart.
May 14, 200916 yr Mr. Madden said MMPI%u2019s strategy will be to subsidize the showrooms of the first 25 companies that sign on to come to the medical mart. I like this part of the article, since it shows they are aiming high right off the bat. As we all know, they are here to make money on their own initiatives...which benefits for the region and the city in so many ways. I think that is what they did at High Point and now they have 5 buildings. It used to be just about the furniture manufactures, now they have showrooms of business (bedding, flooring & window treatments) that go hand and hand with furniture manufacturing. Lets how our mart has the same ripple affect, medical manufacturing (equipment devices), to bedding, furniture, uniforms/clothing, labs, special needs, pharmaceutical, etc. that is medical related. I wonder if they can fill those first twenty five with current tenants from other marts, who have medical product lines? I can see bedding manufactures, furnishing, apparel & bath manufactures all coming to the table.
May 14, 200916 yr MTS, Sorry if I confused you. I mean some of these manufacturers may actually relocate here, as opposed to just having showrooms here. Some may actually manufacturer products in Cleveland along with showing these products at the med mart. That couldn't hurt, but that's one for the 327 "wish list". ;D
May 14, 200916 yr MTS, I think you make a good point. My mom is a nurse at UH, and she thought the med mart may eventually include hospital bed manufactures and a whole plethora of ordinary hospital supplies, not just the highly-technical things like stints.
May 14, 200916 yr Author I buy a lot of industrial machinery (robots, welding power supplies, etc.) and the one thing people always want you to see is their manufacturing facility. How they can easily customize their product to our specific needs. If the MM is successful, I strongly believe that medical device manufacturers will move production facilities to Cleveland.
May 14, 200916 yr I buy a lot of industrial machinery (robots, welding power supplies, etc.) and the one thing people always want you to see is their manufacturing facility. How they can easily customize their product to our specific needs. If the MM is successful, I strongly believe that medical device manufacturers will move production facilities to Cleveland. I don't necessarily believe that, why do you? Our mart is not like the High Point mart, where the medical mart buildings are built in a city already leading the way in furniture manufacturing & distribution. Building the mart there was genius as High Point already had two, 3 week collections each year, HUGE EVENTS, but not much space in the convention center. Nor do I see, via my quick scan of their properties, an increase in designers/home stores/gift/apparel stores in cities where they have design marts.
May 14, 200916 yr Author ^well, when I evaluate a company when I am going to make a capital expenditure, I do a site visit to see what type of quality construction I will get. For high end automation, that is a pretty typical thing to do. My guess is the same would be true for high end medical devices. Companies may see bringing manufacturing facilities near the mart as a competitive advantage. If they can interest them at the MM, they may be able to hook them at thier site. If there were a "Robot Mart" I am certain the big boys would have a facility nearby.
May 14, 200916 yr ^well, when I evaluate a company when I am going to make a capital expenditure, I do a site visit to see what type of quality construction I will get. For high end automation, that is a pretty typical thing to do. My guess is the same would be true for high end medical devices. Companies may see bringing manufacturing facilities near the mart as a competitive advantage. If they can interest them at the MM, they may be able to hook them at thier site. If there were a "Robot Mart" I am certain the big boys would have a facility nearby. So you think that these company's, which are already in existence and have factory's already up and running, will relocate those facilities to Cleveland?
May 14, 200916 yr Author Perhaps not thier entire operations, but I would expect that companies who generate a good deal of business through the MM will have manufacturing or assembly facilities nearby That is why I was so frantic when the PD was trying to kill the project
May 14, 200916 yr I have heard from a friend who works in commercial real estate that he already knows of two such companies that want to come here if/when this gets built... And that's just from one person. I'm sure there are others.
May 14, 200916 yr If true, the public investment will be minimal when compared to the spin-off in businesses which would locate here. I guess we shall see...
May 14, 200916 yr Perhaps not thier entire operations, but I would expect that companies who generate a good deal of business through the MM will have manufacturing or assembly facilities nearby That is why I was so frantic when the PD was trying to kill the project I work in the medical devices industry, and I agree with punch on this one
May 14, 200916 yr Perhaps not thier entire operations, but I would expect that companies who generate a good deal of business through the MM will have manufacturing or assembly facilities nearby That is why I was so frantic when the PD was trying to kill the project I work in the medical devices industry, and I agree with punch on this one Well alright then. I'll shut the f8ck up! :o
May 15, 200916 yr ^Haha I'm certainly no expert, that was just my opinion, but from what I've gathered from other people in the industry is that manufacturers would want to locate operations here for the reasons punch mentioned.
May 15, 200916 yr ^Haha I'm certainly no expert, that was just my opinion, but from what I've gathered from other people in the industry is that manufacturers would want to locate operations here for the reasons punch mentioned. ok. Well if manufactures dont relocated/expand, remember post 4429-4435!! Especially the post from Mr. Smarty Pants! :-P
May 15, 200916 yr BTW Cleveland is already a world leader in Health Care Imaging technology. There are companies that make printers and digital image viewers here. I worked at one that has a manufacturing facility in Middelburg Heights. They benefit from the low wages and relatively high technical skill set and can actually keep from offshoring production. The medical industry works with higher margins (for now) than most other industries, so manufacturing cost for high end equipment is not the primary consideration. Anyway if there was a person in charge of pitching Cleveland to medical equipment manufacturers they would have a pretty solid story to tell.
May 15, 200916 yr While I was still in college I worked part time helping to write software used in medicine for automatically analyzing digital imagery to detect medical problems. They definitely benefited from paying me a super low hourly wage to get some quality work from me! :)
May 18, 200916 yr Author From WEWS http://www.newsnet5.com/health/19487431/detail.html Cleveland's Med Mart May Be Getting Competition Nashville Plans To Open Trade Center In 2010 POSTED: 7:12 pm EDT May 17, 2009 UPDATED: 8:17 am EDT May 18, 2009 CLEVELAND -- Cleveland’s Medical Mart may get some competition. NewsChannel5 learned that a company called Market Center Management will announce its plans Monday to move forward with the next stage in developing an international medical trade center in Nashville. The Nashville Medical Trade Center could open as early as next year.
May 18, 200916 yr Does Nashville even compare to Cleveland in the medical realms?? Are you serious? :roll: You might be, but that would be like comparing Clevelands fashion industry to NYC's or comparing or subway to NYCs. Understand?
May 18, 200916 yr MyTwoSense ... please spell it out. Which medical community is vastly superior, Cleveland or Nashville? Why?
May 18, 200916 yr MyTwoSense ... please spell it out. Which medical community is vastly superior, Cleveland or Nashville? Why? [*]Cleveland Clinic! [*]Biotech and Research investment and Joint Ventures. Is NashVegas even on the map? This comment alone, leads me to belive this guy has as much credibility as some Plain Dealer reports "Ralph Schulz, president of the Nashville Area Chamber of Commerce which founded the Nashville Health Care Council in 1995 said the following: 'This is an important project in furthering Nashville's reputation as the nation's health care industry capital.' Since when have they been known as a "health care" capital?
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