October 24, 201113 yr Ha... it was taken very fast. I got my camera on and shot quickly. I missed the building on my first try but was able to see the building again as the train made that tight turn. Thanks guys.
October 24, 201113 yr I don't think anyone here will ever turn down another pic:) especially when public transit is involved:D
October 24, 201113 yr I also have to agree; this shot is very appealing, esp given the interior of the Rapid plus the different expressions/reactions of the passengers to the construction -- informational and human, too.
October 24, 201113 yr Man, it really is kind of "pure Cleveland," isn't it? Past, present and future, layered in the background. The giant pile of port matter looming and the varied reactions. And of course, the Browns hat. Lucky, but really nice shot.
October 24, 201113 yr Author Cool pic! Construction update pics are always good, but when they are viewed from vehicles, buildings etc. from everyday routine Cleveland, it gives it much more context. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 24, 201113 yr One other consequence of the new building will probably be a drastic decrease in value of the digital billboard on the west exterior of Cleveland Browns Stadium. I think it will block its view from inbound Shoreway vehicles for much of the way across the bridge.
November 6, 201113 yr Both pics from today: From Cliff Drive: From the Terminal Tower observation deck: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
November 7, 201113 yr ^Thanks for sharing, I really enjoy the progress updates. This is going to a long process though, isn't it? Oh well, it makes me so happy to see this thing moving along.
November 7, 201113 yr ^I'll just put it this way - this thread was started in December. 2004. :-o clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
November 7, 201113 yr the slag in the rapid loop is a pretty funny sight. it looks surrounded, how do they get it in and out of there? by train?
November 7, 201113 yr Author the slag in the rapid loop is a pretty funny sight. it looks surrounded, how do they get it in and out of there? by train? There are two underpasses in the north side of the loop. Plus you can drive a truck under the north end of the long snaking bridge. And there is a rail freight siding. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 7, 201113 yr The second picture there make me wish that the port could just magically move,and we could have that area for development
November 8, 201113 yr ^I think the second picture would be just as visually stunning if there were some awesome looking ships loading/unloading at the port next to a brand new ferry seaport.
November 8, 201113 yr Author After construction of the port loop track is done this winter, you might get your wish. Back to the Flats. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 8, 201113 yr How often will the windows in the new building be covered in dust kicked up from industrial traffic inside the loop? Maybe it will won't rise very far and just settle on the lower levels and all the outside dinning areas + parked cars. Stock in Windex might be a good investment...
November 13, 201113 yr Has anyone figured out how tall the building is going to be? I have been hearing 380ft? I hope its quite a bit taller than the Pinnacle building...
November 19, 201113 yr ^I'm still waiting to hear back from my contacts, but it should top out above the Pinnacle. Keep in mind that height changes aren't uncommon during construction - the Federal Courthouse Tower had a floor lopped off to offset the expenses related to (what else?) excavation. And in other news - ladies and gentlemen, we have structural steel going up! :-) Looks like we have three parking levels, and the elevator core is at the 6th floor: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
November 19, 201113 yr Hooray....finally looking less like "Flats Least Blank!" Looks great riding along the Main Avenue Bridge!
November 21, 201113 yr http://www.flatseast.com/webcam.htm The Flats East Bank official website now has a construction webcam
November 28, 201113 yr http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2011/11/with_apartments_full_developer.html The Wolstein Group and Fairmount Properties hope to start construction in the spring on apartments at the Flats East Bank, a mixed-use neighborhood on the Cuyahoga River. Wolstein plans 150 to 175 units at a time, with five stories of apartments built over restaurants and stores. The Flats project site, where construction crews are building an office tower, hotel, restaurants and a parking garage, could accommodate 600 units of housing. "I'm not going to rush it," Wolstein said. "I'm going to do it right. But it would certainly make me happy if we could have all our ducks in a row for the spring."
November 28, 201113 yr Let's hope Wolstein sticks to this schedule for new rental construction ... has his'dispute' with the Port Authority been resolved?
December 3, 201113 yr ^Gotta say that whatever camera they're using, it's putting out some crisp images! clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
December 3, 201113 yr Has anyone figured out how tall the building is going to be? I have been hearing 380ft? I hope its quite a bit taller than the Pinnacle building... 18 stories, right? That sounds like somewhere between 200 and 250 feet.
December 3, 201113 yr ^18 office floors plus 3 parking floors - then there's the antenna/spires so it's hard to say. Looking at the current webcam, it looks like the elevator core is up to 8 stories. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
December 3, 201113 yr "I'm not going to rush it," Wolstein said. "I'm going to do it right. But it would certainly make me happy if we could have all our ducks in a row for the spring." Rush it? That's a real laugh...on a project that was originally conceived....what? Over 10 years ago...or close to that? Wrong choice of words there Bart!
December 3, 201113 yr There are going to be 3 garage levels + 18 stories + 1 mechanical floor (which from the renderings, looks like it might be 1.5 levels) + 1 penthouse level (which MIGHT just end up being the mechanical floor) + the spire at the top.
December 3, 201113 yr Author http://www.flatseast.com/webcam.htm The Flats East Bank official website now has a construction webcam That's a lot clearer. So where will they add the residential component? I assume on one of the surface lots shown below...... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 3, 201113 yr I would hope the middle lot or the top right one. Those two would fit in nicely with the office tower and hotel. Anywhere else would be too far from the action to work in my opinion. Plus the retail would feed off of each other if the buildings were close. Btw, is #10 getting built?
December 3, 201113 yr I like the way you did that! Although, it looks like its not going to be very tall :(
December 4, 201113 yr Author The lawn is temporary, so probably there You're probably right. I like the way you did that! Although, it looks like its not going to be very tall :( That's 18 stories on top of the brightly lit parking decks. And compare the building to the tall Main Avenue/Shoreway bridge to the right. If you use that bridge and you pass by the construction crane, it gives you an appreciation of the height -- despite that the ground is some 7-10 stories below the bridge deck. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 4, 201113 yr I'm curious about the distinction between "lawn" and "meadow." None of that stuff can be built for free, particularly the surface parking, so it seems really wasteful to put it in if the plan is to add residential ASAP. There is public money involved in this project. I'd prefer it were used exclusively on things we actually want. If that means the muddy construction site persists a little longer, I'm OK with that. Money doesn't grow on trees... or in this case, on fields of grass.
December 4, 201113 yr Other than the waterfront line and road maintenance, how much public money is actually in FEB? Do we know? I'm just curious. The public partners list is: Public Partners: City of Cleveland Cleveland-Cuyahoga County Port Authority State of Ohio Cuyahoga County Cleveland Municipal Schools Northeast Ohio Regional Sewer District Summit County Port Authority Army Corps of Engineers Federal Government (departments of Commerce, Housing & Urban Development, Transportation and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency)
December 4, 201113 yr Author Other than the waterfront line and road maintenance, how much public money is actually in FEB? Do we know? I'm just curious. The answer likely in this thread -- probably back in pages 1-20. Happy hunting! ;-) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 5, 201113 yr this building wont even be visible in the skyline considering the lower elevation of that area
December 5, 201113 yr It will be from the west. I love how the shoreway lets you bob and weave through buildings, and this will add a lot to that sensation.
December 5, 201113 yr I can see the top of the tower crane from various vantage points as I drive around town (eastbound on the shoreway, driving over the inner belt bridge, of course driving west on the shoreway) so I imagine it will be prominent, especially since it will be the only tall building in that area.
December 5, 201113 yr Author It will be from the west. And that's the only viewpoint that matters! :-P (spoken as a fellow west-sider) Looks like the steel is about level with the Shoreway bridge deck, so I should start to see it peeking up above the sides of the bridge during my morning commutes. Nice photo. Pretty obvious it was taken during a Browns game. What else would cause parking on the port property to fill up and cause people to stream out of charter buses?! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 5, 201113 yr You can see the construction (not just the crane) now from Public Square. I tried snapping a shot of it with my phone while waiting for the Healthline but the quality was too bad.... Stupid iPhone. :x
December 6, 201113 yr I agree. It needs to be visable from many directions so as to direct attention and curiosity; and draw residents, newcomers, and visitors toward the FEB entertainment district...
December 10, 201113 yr I'm wondering about W. 9th as well. We already know there will be a connection to W. 10th, right?
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