Point of fact: The Main Ave (Route 2) Bridge is not of the same design as the collapsed I-35 Bridge in Minneapolis. 

People seem to be confusing the Main Ave Bridge Design with I-90.

The similar (to I-35) bridge design in Cleveland is the old I-90 Innerbelt Bridge, which is why there has been such a rush to replace it.

 

http://www.csuohio.edu/academic/success_in_math/posters/CSU/Cleveland_innerbelt.pdf

 

Don't want to continue to sidetrack this topic, but I was only going by what has been reported in the PD on many occasions.  One example: http://blog.cleveland.com/pdworld/2007/08/david_i_andersenthe_plain_deal.html. Apparently the truss arch design and loading/deterioration issues are similar enough to the Minneapolis bridge that ODOT has the Main Ave. bridge on their list of truss bridges to watch. The Innerbelt Bridge is simply (1) much more important and (2) in worse shape. Hence all the work there. Doesn't mean that the Main Ave. bridge doesn't need to have a plan for removal or replacement.

 

 

^dumbest post of the year nominee

 

Well, I guess being an idiotic-post frequent flyer, you'd be most qualified as arbiter...

 

Fact is, FEB was announced in 2005 and now, 8 years later, Phase 1 has just opened -- and if you read carefully, I’ve been positive about the quality of the completed Phase 1.  Note however the comment in the City posting that, if Phase 2 does not happen relatively soon, there’s potential that Phase 1 could be harmed and decline.  It’s a matter of fact that Wolstein/Fishman have placed a key component of FEB – the central retail aspect, in Phase 3 while they’re still struggling to close on Phase 2 … so that center surface parking will probably be around for several years…

 

There are aspects of the Fishman/Wolstein FEB program that are eyebrow-raising… and the evidence suggests MRN would have moved on this project more effectively/efficiently. I stand by this.  The fact is, there is still lingering suspicion and angst regarding how the FEB property was acquired in the 1st place – a plan to gin up the death of the East Bank in other to grab the property and bulldoze and rebuild it (a whole book could be written about this, but I digress).  When the younger Wolstein (Scott) announced FEB way back in 2005, he did not hold full property rights within the footprint and had to go to the County and the court to force legit businesses to settle with the Eminent Domain gun to their heads. 

 

Then, in 2011, Wolstein pitched a hissy fit publically castigating the Port Authority stating that the decision not to relocate the PA shipping away from the next-door mouth of the Cuyahoga would jeopardize Phase 2 of FEB … with Adam Fishman later owning up to the fact he probably exacerbated the problem by sitting on the Group’s disenchantment with PA until the Zero Hour…  If you don’t believe me on this last point, consider:

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110921/FREE/110929940

 

So I am somewhat skeptical/concerned and have little empathy with Wolstein/Fishman when I see such things and

much prefer the way Ari Maron/MRN handles their business.  They quietly do their homework, announce their project’s phases when all the tedious/difficult pieces are in place ... and then they act. ... E. 4th Street was a collapsing cesspool until MRN moved on it.  And Uptown?  I assumed that with the prickly Hessler Road neighbors calling the shots, I figured Euclid-Ford Rd. would forever (at least in my lifetime) remain a surface parking lot … but behold their golden Uptown development ON TIME on both sides of Euclid Ave. 

 

NOTE: you NEVER hear MRN sniping or whining in the media, ... to gain public sympathy, money ... or both.

 

Having had a taste of it myself, I realize the world of commercial RE is a iffy and rough ‘n tumble business, and you have to be really sharp to make a go of it, esp in a tough market like Cleveland, where the banks drive about the hardest bargain anywhere to extend financing.  That said, if you’re going to do it, especially in a town that is screaming for development, you’d better have your act together… like MRN. 

nice.  Now show me a project that MRN has pulled off, anywhere near the size & complexity of Flats East Bank, with huge undertaking of land assembly, complicated financing, and new high rise construction. 

 

I can only think of Uptown, and at $44 million, its a fraction of the size & scope of the Aloft/Ernst & Young development.  Doing a low rise mixed use development near a college/cultural area like University Circle is nowhere near as risky as the E&Y tower, which is the first new construction office tower in downtown Cleveland in... 25 yrs?  Ditto for the hotel?  The office tower was a MAJOR risk considering the downtown E9th corridor had substantial vacancies, but Fishman/Wohlsteins pulled it off and have single handedly changed the entire Cleveland office market, getting rents of more than $30/sf which was unheard of prior to the new office tower.  Now, not even a year after opening, they have exceeded their own projections and will be over 90% leased by year end.  The remaining space is going at a premium and will be gone by year's end, hence the development of another midrise office building on the site.

 

MRN is a good little developer that focuses on a different market and has a nice team in place for historic renovations with entertainment/retail specialty.  Good for them.  To compare the two and say one is better because you like his developments better or he gets them done sooner, is pointless.

 

 

When the younger Wolstein (Scott) announced FEB way back in 2005, he did not hold full property rights within the footprint and had to go to the County and the court to force legit businesses to settle with the Eminent Domain gun to their heads. 

 

 

Didn't MRN also use eminent domain to force parties out of some of their East 4th buildings?

 

When the younger Wolstein (Scott) announced FEB way back in 2005, he did not hold full property rights within the footprint and had to go to the County and the court to force legit businesses to settle with the Eminent Domain gun to their heads. 

 

 

Didn't MRN also use eminent domain to force parties out of some of their East 4th buildings?

 

"Urban projects also require a lot of cooperation with city hall, to make sure they are integrated with existing infrastructure and comply with city laws. The 16 buildings on East Fourth had 250 owners crowded onto their land-leases. MRN managed to acquire 80 percent of the property, but to free up abandoned or extremely neglected buildings, the city had to exercise eminent domain."

 

http://www.nationaljournal.com/next-economy/solutions-bank/how-one-family-made-cleveland-yes-cleveland-cool-20130801

 

That one little blurb hardly tells the story of what really went down, but anyone interested can do their own research

Channel 19 story about phase 2.http://www.19actionnews.com/story/23235024/new-life-being-breathed-in-the-flats

 

When the younger Wolstein (Scott) announced FEB way back in 2005, he did not hold full property rights within the footprint and had to go to the County and the court to force legit businesses to settle with the Eminent Domain gun to their heads. 

 

 

Didn't MRN also use eminent domain to force parties out of some of their East 4th buildings?

 

"Urban projects also require a lot of cooperation with city hall, to make sure they are integrated with existing infrastructure and comply with city laws. The 16 buildings on East Fourth had 250 owners crowded onto their land-leases. MRN managed to acquire 80 percent of the property, but to free up abandoned or extremely neglected buildings, the city had to exercise eminent domain."

 

http://www.nationaljournal.com/next-economy/solutions-bank/how-one-family-made-cleveland-yes-cleveland-cool-20130801

 

That one little blurb hardly tells the story of what really went down, but anyone interested can do their own research

 

I thought I was clear.  ED is a legitimate tool to seize property IF it is truly blighted, which was clearly the case on E. 4th.  It was a lot different in FEB where the property was viable (the Flats was one of the premiere entertainment districts in the nation until the early 2000s) but then (appeared to be) deliberately devalued by the surrounding owner to make the old buildings seem blighted in order for the their group to clear the deck for future future development.

 

... but that's old news now.  I hope for the best for the new FEB because I strongly root for my hometown.  But although I'm impressed with Phase I, my lingering concern about these developers will linger until more of this important project for Cleveland gets off the ground.

 

There are aspects of the Fishman/Wolstein FEB program that are eyebrow-raising… and the evidence suggests MRN would have moved on this project more effectively/efficiently. I stand by this. 

 

I want to know more about this evidence.  Is it circumstantial evidence, hearsay, or cold hard facts?  I'm guessing speculation...

Enough about MRN vs Wolstein.  It's purely hypothetical.  Let's get back to the development that actually is happening.

 

Restaurant signage is all up

 

 

 

 

And the EJ Thomas Hall bunker look is being tempered

 

 

^conduit being run inside that concrete bunker facade, I can only hope they do something cool with lighting effects

Every time I'm by there, I'm impressed with the amount of pedestrian activity on West 10th.

Strom drain pipe being installed today under the phase 2 area. 

Nice.  Great view.

is the storm pipe for phase 2?

Welcome to the forum, anthony battaglia! I suspect the answer to your question is "yes" -- but I hope someone has a more definitive answer for you soon.

I was wondering what this was going to be connected to ...

 

 

 

 

A quick FYI...was in Willeyville Saturday evening and asked the bartender what the crowds have been like.  She said that they've maintained a good flow of customers during the week and they've been pretty busy on weekends.  She said about 20% of their business comes from the hotel/office building.  She said most of the customers are from the suburbs who are curious about the new Flats and want to check out the area/new restaurants. 

 

She also mentioned that for a while they were getting Australian customers for a couple weeks.  I don't think I've ever heard an Australian accent in Cleveland but good to see international business travelers or vacationers in town.

Speaking of Australians ... sorry for off main topic, but I'm at Content Marketing World at the CLE convention center this week. There are 1700 attendees from 40+ countries at this homegrown event. Was talking to the head of CMI (used to work with him at Penton) and he said that when they did an Australian CMW event a few months back, they had 400 people there, but some Australians didn't want to come because they only wanted to come to the main one here in Cleveland. So great for our city. :)

 

September 15. 2013 4:30AM

Old River Road properties are fielding new leads

Flats East Bank development sparks increased interest in waterfront area

By STAN BULLARD

 

Construction workers gutting the interior of a building at 1204 Old River Road recently tossed wood in a dumpster in the street, a lone physical sign indicating that the section of Cleveland's Flats south of Main Avenue may be reawakening development-wise.

 

With Ernst & Young Tower, a coterie of restaurants and the Aloft Hotel open in the first part of the Flats East Bank Neighborhood north of Main Avenue, the increased activity in the area is palpable as hotel visitors and hundreds of office workers flock to the structures. Property owners on the south side of Old River are starting to field more inquiries, and new property owners may enter the fray.

 

One key property, though, is in flux.

 

READ MORE AT:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20130915/SUB1/309159983?template=mobile&X-IgnoreUserAgent=1#ATHS

It's not often I take I-77 northbound but I didn't realize the Ernst & Young tower is as visible as it is from this angle:

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20130915/SUB1/309159983?template=mobile&X-IgnoreUserAgent=1#ATHS

 

From the article:

Michael Tricarichi, owner of East Bank South Limited, said he used to get a call every two months about his six buildings on Old River, but now he gets at least a call a week. He said is fielding most of the calls, including one from a national restaurant chain he refused to identify, about his properties that are closest to Main Avenue and the Flats East Bank project.

 

I was looking for this guys name last week as I remember before the recession he had acquired a number of properties. From what I can tell now he lives in Vegas and just seems to want to recoup some of his investment. Hopefully this is a good sign something will happen soon. And not good to hear Ferchill owns property there. This guy is everywhere. I'm not sure why this guy turned his back on Cleveland but looks like he has no interest in us anymore. Hope he divests himself of his properties without a lot of problems. Over the next year I see good things breaking in this area. Hopefully soon.

 

 

When the younger Wolstein (Scott) announced FEB way back in 2005, he did not hold full property rights within the footprint and had to go to the County and the court to force legit businesses to settle with the Eminent Domain gun to their heads. 

 

 

Didn't MRN also use eminent domain to force parties out of some of their East 4th buildings?

 

"Urban projects also require a lot of cooperation with city hall, to make sure they are integrated with existing infrastructure and comply with city laws. The 16 buildings on East Fourth had 250 owners crowded onto their land-leases. MRN managed to acquire 80 percent of the property, but to free up abandoned or extremely neglected buildings, the city had to exercise eminent domain."

 

http://www.nationaljournal.com/next-economy/solutions-bank/how-one-family-made-cleveland-yes-cleveland-cool-20130801

 

That one little blurb hardly tells the story of what really went down, but anyone interested can do their own research

 

I thought I was clear.  ED is a legitimate tool to seize property IF it is truly blighted, which was clearly the case on E. 4th.  It was a lot different in FEB where the property was viable (the Flats was one of the premiere entertainment districts in the nation until the early 2000s) but then (appeared to be) deliberately devalued by the surrounding owner to make the old buildings seem blighted in order for the their group to clear the deck for future future development.

 

... but that's old news now.  I hope for the best for the new FEB because I strongly root for my hometown.  But although I'm impressed with Phase I, my lingering concern about these developers will linger until more of this important project for Cleveland gets off the ground.

 

 

Just read the article, and one point should be corrected.

 

"Although Cleveland includes two neighborhoods that are among Ohio's top five employment centers, tax revenues from incomes go primarily to the suburbs where most employees live."

 

Bee Ess.  Local taxes where you work take precedence. 

 

A basic factfail like this calls all the other items in an article into question.

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20130915/SUB1/309159983?template=mobile&X-IgnoreUserAgent=1#ATHS

 

From the article:

Michael Tricarichi, owner of East Bank South Limited, said he used to get a call every two months about his six buildings on Old River, but now he gets at least a call a week. He said is fielding most of the calls, including one from a national restaurant chain he refused to identify, about his properties that are closest to Main Avenue and the Flats East Bank project.

 

I was looking for this guys name last week as I remember before the recession he had acquired a number of properties. From what I can tell now he lives in Vegas and just seems to want to recoup some of his investment. Hopefully this is a good sign something will happen soon. And not good to hear Ferchill owns property there. This guy is everywhere. I'm not sure why this guy turned his back on Cleveland but looks like he has no interest in us anymore. Hope he divests himself of his properties without a lot of problems. Over the next year I see good things breaking in this area. Hopefully soon.

 

 

Tricarichi had some big plans years ago. His original intent was to put his own restaurant concepts in his buildings. Rocco Whalen was one of the partners involved. Its ironic that he says a national chain is interested in one of the buildings since Buffalo Wild Wings held court in one of his places before being thrown out for concepts that never got off the ground. At the same time, he floated doing a joint deal with Samsel but that also never came to fruition. I don't think he was ever serious about doing anything though. He seems to be a real estate flipper at heart. He already sold some buildings to Wolstein and now he's getting ready to profit again. For the Flats to truly come back, a guy like this needs to be out of the picture.

 

Ferchill has some financial problems thanks to his Detroit developments. The Hilton was foreclosed on while the Westin owes millions in loans. I would guess that he's looking to sell to try remedy these problems more than him turning his back on Cleveland no matter what he says. 

Tricarichi had some big plans years ago. His original intent was to put his own restaurant concepts in his buildings. Rocco Whalen was one of the partners involved. Its ironic that he says a national chain is interested in one of the buildings since Buffalo Wild Wings held court in one of his places before being thrown out for concepts that never got off the ground. At the same time, he floated doing a joint deal with Samsel but that also never came to fruition. I don't think he was ever serious about doing anything though. He seems to be a real estate flipper at heart. He already sold some buildings to Wolstein and now he's getting ready to profit again. For the Flats to truly come back, a guy like this needs to be out of the picture.

 

Ferchill has some financial problems thanks to his Detroit developments. The Hilton was foreclosed on while the Westin owes millions in loans. I would guess that he's looking to sell to try remedy these problems more than him turning his back on Cleveland no matter what he says. 

 

Unfortunately, there's a lot of Tricarichi's in Cleveland. So many of these great old buildings lining the city's main commercial thoroughfares are owned by squatters who are waiting for their big pay day, rather than selling to someone with some cash and a vision, or taking a chance on their own by getting some tax credits or other incentives and rehabbing their buildings with new uses.

Tricarichi had some big plans years ago. His original intent was to put his own restaurant concepts in his buildings. Rocco Whalen was one of the partners involved. Its ironic that he says a national chain is interested in one of the buildings since Buffalo Wild Wings held court in one of his places before being thrown out for concepts that never got off the ground. At the same time, he floated doing a joint deal with Samsel but that also never came to fruition. I don't think he was ever serious about doing anything though. He seems to be a real estate flipper at heart. He already sold some buildings to Wolstein and now he's getting ready to profit again. For the Flats to truly come back, a guy like this needs to be out of the picture.

 

Ferchill has some financial problems thanks to his Detroit developments. The Hilton was foreclosed on while the Westin owes millions in loans. I would guess that he's looking to sell to try remedy these problems more than him turning his back on Cleveland no matter what he says. 

 

Unfortunately, there's a lot of Tricarichi's in Cleveland. So many of these great old buildings lining the city's main commercial thoroughfares are owned by squatters who are waiting for their big pay day, rather than selling to someone with some cash and a vision, or taking a chance on their own by getting some tax credits or other incentives and rehabbing their buildings with new uses.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20060807/REG/60804027

 

He doesn't sound like a "squatter" to me (leaving aside the fairness of applying that term to someone who paid cash and is apparently maintaining the property).  Indeed, he sounds like the opposite of Ferchill, so I don't see how it's fair to criticize both simultaneously.

 

Why shouldn't he wait for what he considers to be a fair price?

 

Why shouldn't he wait for what he considers to be a fair price?

 

There's a lot of structures so decayed they had to be demolished, owned by people waiting for a "fair" price. And some of those owners are now trusts because the person waited themselves into the grave. I'm all for trying to earn a living. But if I did it by sitting on a piece of blight, I would feel ashamed. Maybe I'm not selfish enough to be in business.

Why shouldn't he wait for what he considers to be a fair price?

 

There's a lot of structures so decayed they had to be demolished, owned by people waiting for a "fair" price. And some of those owners are now trusts because the person waited themselves into the grave. I'm all for trying to earn a living. But if I did it by sitting on a piece of blight, I would feel ashamed. Maybe I'm not selfish enough to be in business.

 

This is the story in every neighborhood in Cleveland, espeically in places like Ohio City, Tremont and Detroit Shoreway.  As soon as things start to pick up you have every other house sitting there falling down, while the owner tries to get $200,000 for a house that might be worth 100K.  So to these property owners I say, if you think it's worth it why don't you get an equity loan and at least paint the place?

 

10 years ago the White Administration went down to Old River Road and started enforcing code with a heavy hand.  Club owners couldn't or wouldn't comply, and Wolstein ended up with the property.  We need to step up enforcement all around.

Why shouldn't he wait for what he considers to be a fair price?

 

There's a lot of structures so decayed they had to be demolished, owned by people waiting for a "fair" price. And some of those owners are now trusts because the person waited themselves into the grave. I'm all for trying to earn a living. But if I did it by sitting on a piece of blight, I would feel ashamed. Maybe I'm not selfish enough to be in business.

 

I think you are missing E Rocc's point.  He claims (I don't know if this is true or not but let's take him at his word) that the owner of these buildings in the Flats continues to maintain them and pay property taxes even though they are vacate (and obviously could be put to better use).  In such an instance (rather than where property owners let properties decay and still look for unreasonable prices based on what is happening in the neighborhood), it is E Rocc's position that, like any investment in property or other wise, he should be able to wait for what he thinks is a far price (even if his expectations are unreasonable) if he has the resoruces and the mind to do so.  This is America after all.

I think you are missing E Rocc's point.  He claims (I don't know if this is true or not but let's take him at his word) that the owner of these buildings in the Flats continues to maintain them and pay property taxes even though they are vacate (and obviously could be put to better use).  In such an instance (rather than where property owners let properties decay and still look for unreasonable prices based on what is happening in the neighborhood), it is E Rocc's position that, like any investment in property or other wise, he should be able to wait for what he thinks is a far price (even if his expectations are unreasonable) if he has the resoruces and the mind to do so.  This is America after all.

 

And I think you are missing my point that, as members of the community, we have a greater responsibility to the community than we do to ourselves. Ultimately, you and I don't matter. Our community does. Our community will outlive us by centuries if not millennia, so it's important for us to leave it in a better condition in which we found it and chose to invest in it. If I can't leave my little slice of the city in a better condition, then I should sell to someone who can.

 

My familiarity through past research into Cleveland's organized crime scene led to me conclude that properties in the Flats (especially the East Bank) were acquired by people who were more interested in sucking the life out of it for short-term gain. I don't know if Tricarichi is one of those people or not. Perhaps it is only guilt by association. But I do know that some of his colleagues were guilty of this, and some of those owners fought Wolstein's plans so they could squeeze every drop of blood out of the corpse that was the old Flats East Bank. In the end, they were well paid because they knew how to milk the system. And there are many more like them throughout the city, sucking the life out of it under the modus operandi "this is America."

^Well actually that was not your original point.  In response to E Rocc you focus on those property owers who have "structures so decayed that they had to be demolished, owned by people waiting for a fair price", ignoring that E Rocc was suggesting that this was not the case here.  Your "member of the community agument" is interesting and would probably make for a good essay question on a test in an intro poli sci course.

^Well actually that was not your original point.  In response to E Rocc you focus on those property owers who have "structures so decayed that they had to be demolished, owned by people waiting for a fair price", ignoring that E Rocc was suggesting that this was not the case here.  Your "member of the community agument" is interesting and would probably make for a good essay question on a test in an intro poli sci course.

 

Well, then let me make my point differently. When I think of Flats East Bank property owners, I think of convicted felons who have non-felons be their frontmen to run clubs that become public nuisances but rake in big bucks. And all that's left is a rotted out shell that the public has to buy through eminent domain at overly inflated prices. Those felons then take that money and use it to buy their next property they will milk. They also remind me of property owners who are less noticeable, less aggressive and/or less felonious in their abuse of properties (and thus their neighbors and communities). To me, those that sit on properties for decades (not exaggerating here) and do nothing with them but watch them decay are a slow-motion version of what happened in the Flats. But the end result is exactly the same.

^Well actually that was not your original point.  In response to E Rocc you focus on those property owers who have "structures so decayed that they had to be demolished, owned by people waiting for a fair price", ignoring that E Rocc was suggesting that this was not the case here.  Your "member of the community agument" is interesting and would probably make for a good essay question on a test in an intro poli sci course.

 

Good reflection of what I was saying, though I'm also giving Tricarichi the benefit of the doubt here, based upon the non-mention of any contrary evidence in the article.

 

The idea that "the community" should be more important to us than we are to ourselves sounds like the argument that Ayn Rand's villains make, and indeed it is contrary to both American law and tradition.  Those who invest in something are considered to control it and, if they guess right, are entitled to profit from same.  The "community" argument indeed suggests that the use of eminent domain to benefit private developers is both reasonable and proper.  IMO, that "cure" is way more dangerous than the idea that some real estate speculators might hold onto their property when "the community" could make better use of same.

 

Heard this from someone who works at Crop - they will be opening a second location in Phase II of FEB. Also of note, they will be opening a pasta restaurant in Gordon Square.

The idea that "the community" should be more important to us than we are to ourselves sounds like the argument that Ayn Rand's villains make, and indeed it is contrary to both American law and tradition. 

 

According to the selfish few, and that's all the more reason why we should do it.

 

Anyway, back on topic....

 

Heard this from someone who works at Crop - they will be opening a second location in Phase II of FEB. Also of note, they will be opening a pasta restaurant in Gordon Square.

 

Sounds great. Doubt it will have as dramatic a space as they have now in the United Bank Building in OC. But the food should be great.

Heard this from someone who works at Crop - they will be opening a second location in Phase II of FEB. Also of note, they will be opening a pasta restaurant in Gordon Square.

 

Wow, if both of those things are happening, Crop is a busy bee ... From what's been reported, they're also planning on opening a spot on Waterloo, in partnership with Terry Stewart, who formerly headed up the Rock Hall. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2013/02/crops_rocks_will_bring_a_new_k.html

Heard this from someone who works at Crop - they will be opening a second location in Phase II of FEB. Also of note, they will be opening a pasta restaurant in Gordon Square.

 

Yup

 

Steve Schimoler to Open Two New Restaurants in Flats East Bank

Posted by Douglas Trattner on Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:18 PM

 

When the second phase of the Flats East Bank development debuts in Spring 2015, Steve Schimoler will have a large presence there. The chef and owner of Crop Bistro in Ohio City will open two new restaurants in the Flats: Crop Kitchen & Vine and Cropicana.

 

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2013/09/17/steve-schimoler-to-open-two-new-restaurants-in-flats-east-bank

 

interesting.  would like to hear more about the pasta shop in gordon square. 

very little would have happened to those old existing buildings along Old River Road without the development of Wohlstein's FEB project.  It's simple economics.  Some of those buildings have great bones & architectural detail, but there was just no demand.  I'm sure the current owners recognized that.  Let's be realistic here too, nothing gets done in Cleveland in terms of development without some major public subsidy, even if it's just historic tax credits or new infrastructure or whatever.  And it costs real money, paid to architects & lenders to pursue that (free) subsidy money. 

 

Having said all that, I would bet my left ear that we have an announcement by next summer for a major development along Old River Road.

Having said all that, I would bet my left ear that we have an announcement by next summer for a major development along Old River Road.

 

Hates you.

Looks like the Port of Cleveland has the sign up on it's new building!!!  :clap:  :clap:

 

 

^Ooo, I like that.

And ya got the ship in the background too!

Great shot!

That's cool!  Do they actually have northward facing windows in there?

turn left around that corner and the beautiful portside distillery and brewery will be one of the best places in town to grab a drink.  I suspect they will add cool signage as well

That's cool!  Do they actually have northward facing windows in there?

 

 

Yep, there's windows facing north.  This is a google maps shot from W.9th of the corner of W.9th and Front Ave.

 

 

turn left around that corner and the beautiful portside distillery and brewery will be one of the best places in town to grab a drink.  I suspect they will add cool signage as well

 

I was telling the owner that he should add a rooftop patio.  It would be the best view in town!  Unfortunately, the Port of Cleveland owns the building and they were already giving him a hard time with the construction of the restaurant.  I remember the Port of Cleveland wanted Portside to do something (can't remember what exactly) with the ceiling of the restaurant that would cost them $70K.  That's why it was taking Portside so long to start the construction of the restaurant.

Looks like the Port of Cleveland has the sign up on it's new building!!!  :clap:  :clap:

 

 

the sign looks good, but it looks like the honey locust street trees didn't make it.  i don't understand why every project seems to cut down trees and start from scratch.  a nice tree canopy, even from honey locusts, makes a huge difference in how you perceive the street. 

the sign looks good, but it looks like the honey locust street trees didn't make it.  i don't understand why every project seems to cut down trees and start from scratch.  a nice tree canopy, even from honey locusts, makes a huge difference in how you perceive the street.

 

 

Yea, I didnt even notice them missing until you mentioned it.  Damn!!!