September 8, 201410 yr I think there are 8 floors so one more to go. https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
September 8, 201410 yr The Cuyahoga is somewhat unusual in that it dumps into Lake Erie as opposed to Lake Erie feeding the river. So when it rains, dirt/mud gets washed into the river and then into the lake. It's been that way forever.
September 8, 201410 yr Sediment is the most common river pollutant. This is interesting: http://cfpub.epa.gov/npstbx/files/ksmo_sediment.pdf
September 8, 201410 yr The Cuyahoga is somewhat unusual in that it dumps into Lake Erie as opposed to Lake Erie feeding the river. So when it rains, dirt/mud gets washed into the river and then into the lake. It's been that way forever. How is that unusual? What river, besides the Niagra, does Lake Erie feed into?
September 8, 201410 yr The Cuyahoga is somewhat unusual in that it dumps into Lake Erie as opposed to Lake Erie feeding the river. So when it rains, dirt/mud gets washed into the river and then into the lake. It's been that way forever. How is that unusual? What river, besides the Niagra, does Lake Erie feed into? Agree. I think rivers feeding the lakes (at least the Great Lakes) is more the norm. The only example of the opposite I can think of (aside from the flow through Detroit River, Niagara, St. Lawrence on its way to the ocean) is the Chicago river, and the flow of that river was artificially reversed.
September 8, 201410 yr Author Correct! And with that, we return to the construction project. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 8, 201410 yr I think there are 8 floors so one more to go. Awesome. That building's going to be a substantial parcel on this rather small footprint. All the better. Can't wait to see the ground-level retail along with sexy living units above.
September 11, 201410 yr What is going to go in the area in the middle of the apartment complex?? As the construction started, I thought it might be filled in as the floors were going up, but it now looks like it's gonna be left open. Maybe a little "court yard"??
September 11, 201410 yr A courtyard above a parking garage. https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
September 17, 201410 yr Agreed. No street interaction in a walkable, urban atmosphere is generally bad design practice. The courtyard is on the third (fourth?) floor above the parking garage tucked inside the building. Nothing wrong with the apartment residents wanting their own private courtyard. The street interaction is still going to be retail on the first floor.
September 17, 201410 yr I'm confused on the parking garage. The photo above does not show any excavation for a parking garage in the center, nor do I remember an excavation prior to the footing for the building going in. If the garage was going in, wouldn't they be building this simultaneeously with the building? Where exactly is this garage going?
September 17, 201410 yr I'm confused on the parking garage. The photo above does not show any excavation for a parking garage in the center, nor do I remember an excavation prior to the footing for the building going in. If the garage was going in, wouldn't they be building this simultaneeously with the building? Where exactly is this garage going? There are two levels of parking. The first is ground level behind each retail storefront. The second is the entire second floor of the building, edge to edge. Then the courtyard is on the third floor, which is also the first floor of apartments. The courtyard should absolutely be private for residents only. http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/01162014/index.php (ground floor) http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/01162014/image/Flats_East_Bank_04.jpg (second floor) http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/01162014/image/Flats_East_Bank_05.jpg (third floor) http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/01162014/image/Flats_East_Bank_06.jpg (side cutaway) http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/01162014/image/Flats_East_Bank_07.jpg
September 19, 201410 yr Author From my Facebook page so some of the text reflects information to help explain the project to "friends" around the country and the world.... First phase of Flats East Bank and Waterfront Line light rail, Cleveland. Phase 2 of Flats East Bank is this eight-story apartment building, plus restaurants, outdoor theater and riverfront boardwalk. Phase 3 (parking deck shrouded by townhouses) will rise on the surface lot in the foreground. Waterfront Line light-rail train departs Flats East Bank station, Cleveland. Bridges, buildings & boats (not pictured) are what the Flats are all about. This is beneath the West Shoreway bridge -- longest bridge in Ohio at 1 mile. Flats are just west of Cleveland's current central business district. 150 years ago, The Flats was the CBD. Today it's mostly old brick warehouses converted into apartments and other uses. Another view of the new Flats East Bank apartments. This south end still has two more floors to add before winter hits. Then they can work indoors. Maybe one day the development will spread south where a jogger can run in the street without fear of getting hit by the bumper-to-bumper traffic of my clubbing days.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 19, 201410 yr More plans?? http://cleveland.uli.org/event/unveiling-comprehensive-master-plan-flats/
September 21, 201410 yr Here's another view from an aerial vantage point. Took this the other day flying into Hopkins; you can really see how big this project is.
September 21, 201410 yr ^Love the ore boat rounding the bend at Nautica there as well. Definitely speaks to the size of those!
September 23, 201410 yr More plans?? http://cleveland.uli.org/event/unveiling-comprehensive-master-plan-flats/ Anyone have any ideas what these plans could entail? Have there been any rough drafts (?) or anything like that released?
October 1, 201410 yr Author http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/10032014/index.php City Planning Commission Agenda for October 3, 2014 ADMINSTRATIVE APPROVALS 1. Ordinance No. 1218-14(Ward 3/Councilmember Cimperman): Authorizing the Director of Capital Projects to lease certain property located in the Flats Development Area to Flats East Development LLC, or their designee, for the purpose of constructing and maintaining public access roads into the Flats and for programming, for a period up to ninety-nine years. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 9, 201410 yr Author "mjarboe[/member]: At a #CLE NAIOP event. Adam Fishman of Flats East Bank team says E&Y Tower is 100% leased. Aloft hotel ran 92% occupied last month." "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 9, 201410 yr More time lapse-ish pictures of the apartment building construction in the flickr album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/14014567@N08/sets/72157642487692745/ We are reaching roof height now and seeing exterior walls starting to going up. Sorry about the quality of the last month's pictures; the exterior of the window I snap through need cleaned badly. :x
October 9, 201410 yr Here's another view from an aerial vantage point. Took this the other day flying into Hopkins; you can really see how big this project is. From your private Learjet, eh?
October 9, 201410 yr Nice pictures Trav. Keep them coming. It is weird to see a building of this size rising without any cranes. I assume that at some point they will need one for the HVAC units and maybe for the exterior as well.
October 9, 201410 yr Author Yep, nice pics. Here's the last one...... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 17, 201410 yr Regarding the last picture, what is that wood framed structure in front of Front St?
October 17, 201410 yr Author Regarding the last picture, what is that wood framed structure in front of Front St? It's Building 10: "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 17, 201410 yr Regarding the last picture, what is that wood framed structure in front of Front St? I believe that is going to be Flip Side Burgers
October 17, 201410 yr Regarding the last picture, what is that wood framed structure in front of Front St? Waffle House. JK. Here's my fave!!
November 4, 201410 yr Author http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2014/11072014/index.php City Planning Commission Agenda for November 7, 2014 DF2014-111 - Toby Keith's Bar & Grill Project Location: Flats East Bank Development Project Representative: Brice Miller, Fairmount Properties "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 4, 201410 yr Still not a fan of all the single stand alone buildings proposed down there. https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
November 5, 201410 yr Agreed, but I would guess and hope all these one story structures are all eventual tear downs for future phases as the land is too valuable.
November 5, 201410 yr ^esp 1-story ones. Why I like the organic feel as opposed to building all built at the same time with the same materials used. It's looks to "matchy-matchy" to me.
November 5, 201410 yr Author Why I like the organic feel as opposed to building all built at the same time with the same materials used. It's looks to "matchy-matchy" to me. "matchy-matchy"?? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 5, 201410 yr Final height and overall shape has been achieved. I have updated progression pictures in my album. I have updated my cell phone to the Samsung Note 4, so the detail are better if you look at the full size pictures on the site.
November 10, 201410 yr A little "before and after" courtesy of mjarboe & trav. Love the progress!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
November 11, 201410 yr I wonder if the open end of the residential building is designed to be filled in with a higher tower as originally was planned
November 11, 201410 yr I wonder if the open end of the residential building is designed to be filled in with a higher tower as originally was planned
November 11, 201410 yr I doubt it, as there are windows on the ends. Also, I'm not sure what higher tower you're referencing.
November 11, 201410 yr I wonder if the open end of the residential building is designed to be filled in with a higher tower as originally was planned Tower? What tower?
November 11, 201410 yr I think he is refering to the tower that was proposed where Front Avenue dead ends into the Cuyahoga River. When plans were first announced for the FEB back in 2005/2006, Wolstein said he was holding that piece of property for future development which consisted of a high-rise residential tower. It's the same location that they are putting the storage container restaurant/nightclub.
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