February 7, 20196 yr FYI - coastal taco did close... it’s going to be Lindy’s steakhouse or something like that.
February 7, 20196 yr 24 minutes ago, Klingaling87 said: FYI - coastal taco did close... it’s going to be Lindy’s steakhouse or something like that. Chain chain chaaaainnnnn -Aretha Food was okay. But I thought their layout was really great, exceptional use of space and tasteful looking. Very "coastal" if you will. I went there to watch the Browns game on tv a few months after they opened. Staff was friendly but didn't seem like they had their act together. I sensed that whoever owned the place was either 3,000 miles away or a corporate entity. Oh well, hope the next place has better luck. I hope they don't renovate too much.
February 7, 20196 yr Coastal Taco facebook page states "Beginning January 2, 2019 Coastal Taco will be closed for renovation. We will reopen in Spring 2019."
February 7, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Klingaling87 said: FYI - coastal taco did close... it’s going to be Lindy’s steakhouse or something like that. From what I understand Coastal Taco will reopen after reno. The owner Rick Doody will open a new concept called Lindsey's Lake House/Bar in Lakewood. Feb/March is usually the best time for restaurants to renovate due to slower traffic. I don't believe they are changing concepts at Coastal.
February 7, 20196 yr This is a pretty funny episode of rumor mill telephone. Anyway, Lindsey's Lakehouse is already a thing in Beachwood, apparently: https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2018/11/01/first-look-lindeys-lake-house-in-beachwood-from-rick-doody-opening-soon
February 7, 20196 yr Your move... https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/01/02/rick-doody-of-coastal-taco-and-lindeys-lake-house-to-open-new-concept-in-lakewood
February 7, 20196 yr 9 minutes ago, freethink said: Your move... https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/01/02/rick-doody-of-coastal-taco-and-lindeys-lake-house-to-open-new-concept-in-lakewood I think it's fair to say that, if reopening, Coastsl Taco will be a Lindey's Lake Bar. For for those who don't know about or haven't been to the aforementioned Lindey's Lake House in Beachwood (the slightly more upscale version of this new mini chain from Bravo/Brio founder (and local) Rick Doody) - it's connected to his Cedar Creek Grille, is beautifully designed, has delicious food (cracker crust pizzas, fried chicken, super salads) - and it's quite the place to be among a certain crowd.. FEB should be so lucky.
February 7, 20196 yr 13 hours ago, eyehrtfood said: I think it's fair to say that, if reopening, Coastsl Taco will be a Lindey's Lake Bar. For for those who don't know about or haven't been to the aforementioned Lindey's Lake House in Beachwood (the slightly more upscale version of this new mini chain from Bravo/Brio founder (and local) Rick Doody) - it's connected to his Cedar Creek Grille, is beautifully designed, has delicious food (cracker crust pizzas, fried chicken, super salads) - and it's quite the place to be among a certain crowd.. FEB should be so lucky. I won't mind to see 1/2 these taco-craze places close. It's a way over-played fad.
February 7, 20196 yr 21 minutes ago, Cleburger said: I won't mind to see 1/2 these taco-craze places close. It's a way over-played fad. Mehh, I don't know. Personally, I enjoy paying $12 for a 2"x2" taco.
February 7, 20196 yr Also, a big part of the renovation is likely the addition of a heating system. Their previous solution was to give everyone blankets to keep warm in april-may and october-november.
March 4, 20196 yr From my understanding, Coastal will still be Coastal. They received a chuck of money from Budweiser to revamp their bar areas. $50-75k. So they decided it was a good opportunity to update the place.
March 4, 20196 yr 42 minutes ago, marty15 said: From my understanding, Coastal will still be Coastal. They received a chuck of money from Budweiser to revamp their bar areas. $50-75k. So they decided it was a good opportunity to update the place. Their Instagram has pics and notes "rebranding" so TBD.
March 4, 20196 yr Author Coastal Taco in the Flats to Reopen as Lindey’s Lake House this Spring https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/03/04/coastal-taco-in-the-flats-to-reopen-as-lindeys-lake-house-this-spring "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 4, 20196 yr Well I guess that settles it then. Seems like a good concept for the area, I like the vibe they are going for.
March 4, 20196 yr At least the concept makes sense. This whole development needs to quit pretending it's in Malibu.
March 13, 20196 yr More on the Toby Keith's/Rascal Flatts scam: https://www.tennessean.com/in-depth/news/local/arizona-investigations/2019/03/13/mafia-frank-capri-behind-rascal-flatts-toby-keith-restaurant-failures/2337607002/
March 14, 20196 yr FEB News. https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/investigations/was-a-man-with-mafia-connections-behind-the-canceled-openings-of-2-restaurants-in-the-flats/95-09dd63fa-2386-4d62-a466-8423c7422370
April 4, 20196 yr Here are the latest renderings for the phase 3a restaurants. The form hasn't changed from the conceptual drawings last year, but materials and colors sure have. And it has all the symptoms builder-driven modernism. Take a simple box and decorate it with too many materials and shapes to hide the fact that it's just a simple box. The project was tabled at design review earlier today, mercifully. https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/04/flats-east-bank-restaurant-design-going-back-to-the-drawing-board.html
April 4, 20196 yr I'm actually ok with this builder-box design. I agree on your comments whole-heartedly, but for some reason this one does it for me. Maybe because the random uses of different materials coincide with the overall random haphazard feel of many of the structures up and down the river.
April 4, 20196 yr ^Agree. I’m no authority on architecture but I’m glad these look different than the last crop of buildings like Flipside, Beerhead, etc.
April 4, 20196 yr Clearly taking the approach of stepping up in height from the River with these, then heading east to the E&Y building. Many years ago when the project was first announced, this parcels future phase was a 25+ story highrise which I thought was a mistake.
April 5, 20196 yr I liked the original concept for these and thought it was pretty unique. AT that time it looked like they were going with more of the wood-siding look similar to Alley Cat. I do not think everything needs to look the same at FEB but I really dont like the direction they went. Here was the original:
April 5, 20196 yr 24 minutes ago, mrclifton88 said: I liked the original concept for these and thought it was pretty unique. AT that time it looked like they were going with more of the wood-siding look similar to Alley Cat. I do not think everything needs to look the same at FEB but I really dont like the direction they went. Here was the original: Agreed. It looks like the architectural design is still the same, but they just changed some material finishes. Hopefully they change it back.
April 6, 20196 yr Lindy's Lake house.https://www.wkyc.com/article/life/food/coastal-taco-transforms-to-lindeys-lake-house-more-restaurants-planned-for-the-flats/95-20dda554-0314-4c29-8476-42b51fdb1391
April 6, 20196 yr In addition to the cargo container ships that patrons can practically reach out and touch ... which to my mind is a unique feature of the city ... the added bonus of adjacent freight trains whizzing by the nearby bridge will put on quite a spectacle of commerce to out of town visitors.
April 8, 20196 yr Hopefully some retail can start popping up in these newer developments. When I go on vacations to places with waterfronts like this its usually a health mix of shops, restaurants, inns/small hotels, etc.I know it can't be compared, but I'm thinking of a place like Ocean City MD. Also, I know that the city was pushing for one, large unified boardwalk to connect all the way over to Settler's. Will that come to fruition? Edited April 8, 20196 yr by imjustinjk
May 1, 20196 yr Author Good news: The FEB Phase 3.2 is on Akara's website and includes a new rendering of the apartment -- without the movie theater complex on the north side of the high-rise. Yet the text description for the cinema remains in the project summary, however.... https://www.akarapartners.com/projects I noted that phase 3.2 is about a year away.... https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/04/cleveland-is-rising-up-in-o-zone.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 1, 20196 yr Author BTW, the graphics for FEB Phase 3.1 are up at Design Review: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/05032019/index.php#myGallery Here are a few of them..... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 1, 20196 yr I like the new rendering for Kenect a lot better than the original. I wonder what's going on with the rest of that lot, though. Will the cinema be phase 3.3? Will it be joined with something else like another residential tower?
May 2, 20196 yr 6 hours ago, KJP said: Good news: The FEB Phase 3.2 is on Akara's website and includes a new rendering of the apartment -- without the movie theater complex on the north side of the high-rise. Yet the text description for the cinema remains in the project summary, however.... https://www.akarapartners.com/projects Looking at Akara's website, the Kenect Cleveland is the shortest of the six Kenect buildings they are planning in other cities. Most of the others are around 20 floors. Edited May 2, 20196 yr by jeremyck01
May 2, 20196 yr I don’t see any further entertainment development as sustainable. There’s seriously nowhere to park anywhere down there already. A garage along the tracks, or in the RTA loop would be ideal. We’re not a public transit centric city. At least Stark puts up a garage for every building he puts up at Crocker. I park on W. 9th and walk down now. But even that’s limited on the weekends.
May 2, 20196 yr 39 minutes ago, jeremyck01 said: Looking at Akara's website, the Kenect Cleveland is the shortest of the six Kenect buildings they are planning in other cities. Most of the others are around 20 floors. I can’t help but feel slightly envious of Nashville and the other cities getting 20+ story Kenects that dwarf ours, but it’s no use to think that way. "We each pay a fabulous price for our visions of paradise." - ????, ???????
May 2, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, Boxtruffles said: I can’t help but feel slightly envious of Nashville and the other cities getting 20+ story Kenects that dwarf ours, but it’s no use to think that way. Well, if it makes you feel any better, Nashville sucks and is just a big sprawling city with few walkable neighborhoods, and their public transit is awful. Who cares about how tall their buildings are ?
May 2, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, Boxtruffles said: I can’t help but feel slightly envious of Nashville and the other cities getting 20+ story Kenects that dwarf ours, but it’s no use to think that way. One small detail that you overlooked was our Kenect has the largest amount of ground floor retail out of all of the new ones at 22K square feet. That's not even including the 48K Sq foot cinema. I don't mind the height, especially when you take into consideration the height of the apartment building down there now. I'd rather them blend better than have a tall tower that's tall just to be well......tall. It will look odd in years down the road. I do wish our kenect had more glass though on the sides, it's not bad but I'm not a fan of the blank wall. I will take more ground floor retail over a tall tower that has very little or no pedestrian activity besides residents coming and going. Edited May 2, 20196 yr by MyPhoneDead
May 2, 20196 yr The new Flats Riverfront Restaurant designs still feel and look out of place to me. I don't get the gabled roofs in this development. The contextual panorama really shows off this misstep
May 2, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, Boxtruffles said: I can’t help but feel slightly envious of Nashville and the other cities getting 20+ story Kenects that dwarf ours, but it’s no use to think that way. Why is everyone worried about Nashville? I just don’t get it!!! Cleveland has had a great deal of development over the last 15 years or so, but it’s been renovations/restorations instead of new structures. And now that the restoration material is almost used up, there are several new towers in the works. In some cities, there is a lot more to development than the number of cranes in the sky!!
May 2, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, dave2017 said: The new Flats Riverfront Restaurant designs still feel and look out of place to me. I don't get the gabled roofs in this development. The contextual panorama really shows off this misstep To me the gabled rooftops are actually more true to the architectural history of the hood.
May 2, 20196 yr I'm not a fan of the materials being used, and I'd prefer darker colors instead of all that white and beige. I love the gabled roofs though. IMO it's the feature that saves the whole design from total mediocrity. As for Kenect Cleveland, I don't mind at all that it's the shortest of the Kenects. I like that it's more in scale with its surroundings and it has a lot of retail space. I also like that they're using a darker rusty shade of orange instead of the bright yellow-orange that's in many of the other Kenects.
May 2, 20196 yr 18 hours ago, KJP said: BTW, the graphics for FEB Phase 3.1 are up at Design Review: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/05032019/index.php#myGallery Here are a few of them..... If you look at the bottom image, those saying they don't like the colors, they actually match those of the apartment building with materials that give a similar vibe to Alley Cat. I think it was a smart touch.
May 2, 20196 yr I feel like (or rather hope) that this is a case of something looking worse in the renderings than in reality. These renderings are just not very good, to me. I like the reconfigured pathways and entrance to FWD, but I am concerned about the big dumpster containment right in the middle of everything... not sure how that is going to work.
May 2, 20196 yr These almost remind me of a cannery or something. Like they'd fit better in Alaska or Seattle or Monterey. I'm crossing my fingers on the materials ... as others have said, that could make or break this phase.
May 2, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, ethlaw said: I'm not a fan of the materials being used, and I'd prefer darker colors instead of all that white and beige. I agree about the colors - they will look particularly gruesome in winter, which, let's face it, makes up a lot of the year. I like the brighter palette used on northern European and Canadian waterfronts. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
May 2, 20196 yr 14 hours ago, marty15 said: I don’t see any further entertainment development as sustainable. There’s seriously nowhere to park anywhere down there already. A garage along the tracks, or in the RTA loop would be ideal. We’re not a public transit centric city. At least Stark puts up a garage for every building he puts up at Crocker. I park on W. 9th and walk down now. But even that’s limited on the weekends. The rapid transit alleviates the need for parking to some extent. One can either take the lakefront line or walk from Public Square.
May 2, 20196 yr 14 hours ago, marty15 said: I don’t see any further entertainment development as sustainable. There’s seriously nowhere to park anywhere down there already. A garage along the tracks, or in the RTA loop would be ideal. We’re not a public transit centric city. At least Stark puts up a garage for every building he puts up at Crocker. I park on W. 9th and walk down now. But even that’s limited on the weekends. Literally the last thing Cleveland needs is more parking. We're not a public transit centric city (whatever that means) due to the plethora of parking downtown and in nearby neighborhoods.
May 2, 20196 yr These look a bit better than the designs posted in March. If anything the panorama makes Alleycat the outlier, not these new buildings which look more substantial on the waterfront.
May 2, 20196 yr 53 minutes ago, Clefan98 said: Literally the last thing Cleveland needs is more parking. We're not a public transit centric city (whatever that means) due to the plethora of parking downtown and in nearby neighborhoods. Just pointing out the reality of the situation down there. You don’t have to like it.
May 2, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, Mendo said: These look a bit better than the designs posted in March. If anything the panorama makes Alleycat the outlier, not these new buildings which look more substantial on the waterfront. I was about to the say the same thing. The one story outlier buildings look too small for the site, though they always did. I've always assumed that by the time they fill all the vacant lots in the FEB footprint, they would probably start revisiting those structures and maybe replace them with taller buildings.
May 2, 20196 yr 15 minutes ago, marty15 said: Just pointing out the reality of the situation down there. You don’t have to like it. LOL, ok google guy.
May 2, 20196 yr Author 2 hours ago, marty15 said: Just pointing out the reality of the situation down there. You don’t have to like it. People use quality transit when it's funded and available. We have neither. Our built reality is what we make it. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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