March 15, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, BoomerangCleRes said: Bobby’s mandrake and river garden project went back to the commission today, show very nice concepts also mentioned they were working with the metroparks around the idea of public access and that the metroparks will go forward with the over the river idea Love to hear that there will be public riverfront access!
March 16, 20241 yr I feel like some of the posts here influence some decisions that are made by the power brokers in the city. Someone here posted this idea, but there was no discussion of it before. I love it, regardless.
April 5, 20241 yr Author Tony George plans at 1146 Old River Rd this 150-foot-tall billboard as a result of his legal agreement resulting from Irishtown Bend. In my opinion, this is an abomination. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 5, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, KJP said: Tony George plans at 1146 Old River Rd this 150-foot-tall billboard as a result of his legal agreement resulting from Irishtown Bend. In my opinion, this is an abomination. Just got to this part I can’t believe it’s a real proposal, is April fools a week long event?
April 5, 20241 yr Author It was approved 5-1. Slife voted against it. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 5, 20241 yr is it to be tall enough to be seen from the road is that why? what a weird spot for it.
April 5, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, dwolfi01 said: is it to be tall enough to be seen from the road is that why? what a weird spot for it. Yes, it's tall enough to be seen from the Shoreway. Seems no one else wanted it. George owns the land. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 5, 20241 yr That looks awful. Aside from Councilman Slife, the lack of pushback on the location is just sad. Watching these meetings it gets more and more obvious how inconsistently the CPC treats projects. Edited April 5, 20241 yr by Mendo
April 5, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, dwolfi01 said: is it to be tall enough to be seen from the road is that why? what a weird spot for it. Yes. Here are a couple of shots from the shoreway. This is 2/3 Bobby NEEDS to allow full demo of the dilapidated structure for Irishtown Bend. He now has this one and downtown above Harry Buffalo. One left. Let's hope the next one isn't worse than this. Edited April 5, 20241 yr by downtownjoe
April 5, 20241 yr Really wish Ohio would ban roadside billboards like other states. I think they are a huge distraction and ugly as hell especially electronic ones. If it's anything like the one on I think E9th and Prospect it'll blind every driver at night with how bright it is lol.
April 5, 20241 yr This might violate the federal Highway Beautification Act. I’m going to look into it because I would love to F him over 🙂
April 5, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, Whipjacka said: he said ODOT signed off on it We’ll see if he’s being truthful. I dislike him enough to be a squeaky wheel lol
April 5, 20241 yr My hot take, unfortunately, is that it is likely permitted under the Act if the municipality allows it.
April 5, 20241 yr I really don't get how he gets 3 billboards for the removal of the one at Irishtown Bend with his ultimate choice where he gets to put them.
April 5, 20241 yr It's definitely not great. I will just say though that this situation is about the city settling on the lesser of evils in terms of placement (hence the very little pushback)...there are other potential locations that would be worse. We'll see about the 3rd and final one though. Staying positive by thinking about the beautiful and billboard-less park that we'll get soon in exchange...
April 5, 20241 yr Cleveland should prohibit billboards within city limits, at least in certain centralized areas.
April 5, 20241 yr He's like Trump lite. Does all kinds of crappy things and yet for some reason gets little pushback.
April 5, 20241 yr Author Cleveland planners OK 150-foot-tall billboard in Flats By Ken Prendergast / April 5, 2024 Cleveland City Planning Commission today approved placing a 150-foot-tall pole-mounted billboard at a Flats East Bank property owned by an affiliate of controversial local businessman Tony George. It is the second of three billboards that George has received city permission to build in order to fulfill a court-approved settlement prior to demolishing an oft-vandalized building for the Irishtown Bend Park in Ohio City. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/04/05/cleveland-planners-ok-150-foot-tall-billboard-in-flats/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 5, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, urbanetics_ said: It's definitely not great. I will just say though that this situation is about the city settling on the lesser of evils in terms of placement (hence the very little pushback)...there are other potential locations that would be worse. We'll see about the 3rd and final one though. Staying positive by thinking about the beautiful and billboard-less park that we'll get soon in exchange... Are there worse locations? Right in the middle of a walkable riverfront district? Tourists are going to laugh when they see this. This is absolute insanity.
April 5, 20241 yr Isn’t that a public safety issue having a gigantic movie screen-sized video display that close to a roadway? That road is already a little stressful to drive on imho.
April 5, 20241 yr This is pure d**k-waving by BG. Doing it simply to show that he can. My hovercraft is full of eels
April 5, 20241 yr Just now, roman totale XVII said: This is pure d**k-waving by BG. Doing it simply to show that he can. I hope the paintball community does it's best artwork on this monstrosity!
April 5, 20241 yr Sounds like a lot of us have highway concerns. Luckily ODOT accepts feedback on Highway Concerns here: https://odot.formstack.com/forms/feedback
April 5, 20241 yr Shouldn't this approved billboard be constituted as filling the last of the 3 billboards? This location is double sided. Technically he now has the ability to have up to five if the last location is also double sided.
April 6, 20241 yr In Ken's article Leonard says the the city's billboard restrictions prevented this from going up on 30 other sites, yet they approve four variances here? Really stinks to see this get no pushback from anyone.
April 16, 20241 yr Author Renovated Odeon in Flats to reopen this year By Ken Prendergast / April 16, 2024 With a new owner, a new venue manager and some freshening up planned in the coming months, The Odeon Concert Club, 1295 Old River Rd. on the East Bank of Cleveland’s Flats, is due to begin hosting new live performances again, perhaps before the end of this summer. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/04/16/renovated-odeon-in-flats-to-reopen-this-year/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 17, 20241 yr 22 minutes ago, mrnyc said: awesome news 🎉 Absolutely! And I gotta say I'm positively shocked the former owner guy wearing a tracksuit couldn't get the place back to the glory years ;-)
May 10, 20241 yr A look at the new Oswald signage, seeing red up there looks a little weird to me but I think I’m just used to seeing EY up there for so long
May 10, 20241 yr Funny that they marked some of the photos in the presentation as “drone” - I mean, I’ve been called LOTS of names but never ‘drone’ 😜 clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
May 10, 20241 yr The "Oswald" signage feels overscaled for the building. Also, is it really necessary for 3 signs? Even SHW only has 2
May 10, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, dave2017 said: The "Oswald" signage feels overscaled for the building. Also, is it really necessary for 3 signs? Even SHW only has 2 They’re going on precedent as EY had three signs. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
May 11, 20241 yr speaking of....the new EY sign on their new building looks comically small to me. Like they just shoved it in the corner and called it a day. Looks so out of place. I would get a pic but I only see it when I'm driving down 90 on the way home.
May 11, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, dwolfi01 said: speaking of....the new EY sign on their new building looks comically small to me. Like they just shoved it in the corner and called it a day. Looks so out of place. I would get a pic but I only see it when I'm driving down 90 on the way home. Not very “Progressive” signage, is what you’re saying…..
May 24, 20241 yr Hi folks, the Jade/restaurant posts have been moved to the Cleveland restaurant discussion thread. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
June 26, 2024Jun 26 Author Bobby George's project got funded..... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 5, 2024Sep 5 Author Samsel Supply to close its doors after 66 years By Ken Prendergast / September 5, 2024 When they sold their properties on Old River Road in Cleveland’s Flats East Bank to a developer nearly three years ago, Samsel family members had declined to answer where they would relocate their commercial supply business, Samsel Supply Company. No one else in local real estate circles seemed to know either. Turns out the reason was a simple one that few had considered — they’re not relocating. They’re closing. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/09/05/samsel-supply-to-close-its-doors-after-66-years/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 5, 2024Sep 5 So they're closing rather soon it sounds like. Wonder if that means a potential redevelopment is more imminent than expected. I noticed in the article Ken mentioned it was "a still-active but not yet publicized redevelopment". Would be great for some ground floor retail and some loft apartments.
September 5, 2024Sep 5 Author Yes, I would call it "imminent" -- but that's a relative term. 😁 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 5, 2024Sep 5 Well that's the end of one era but hopefully the beginning of another. Right now the Flats seem to be some combination of slowly moving forward along with a holding pattern. If the structures on both sides of Old River are developed correctly the Flats gets a huge shot in the arm. If not, what a wasted opportunity. Worst case scenario is those great old buildings are torn down. I'm already a little nervous that one main partner is a suburban developer. Do they even care about saving old buildings?
September 6, 2024Sep 6 I feel that the ground floor of the "original section" of the FEB needs to have a different feel from the modern version. The modern version is very party/nightlife focused, I would want this version to be more well rounded that invites people to come down there before 8PM.
October 31, 2024Oct 31 Author You sure that's not the Chicago River on St. Patrick's Day?? 😮 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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