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First phase of the Shiloh Baptist apartments are going up in the KLB neighborhood:

 

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And it looks like the site is being prepped for the next phase:

 

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Also going up in KLB, on E Long, is a six-unit building:

 

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On 4/23/2022 at 10:55 AM, amped91 said:

Today is apparently review area commission proposals day lol

 

The Near East Side Area Commission heard a proposal this week for a 48 unit apartment building at 514 Taylor Ave (across the street from CarePoint East) from Kreais Dev. They are asking the commission for setback and parking reduction variances. 
 

https://cbusareacommissions.org/wp-content/uploads/NEAC-Zoning-Meeting-Minutes-April-19-2022-1.pdf

Meant to include the site plans for this project:

 

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Also, in more infill news, Franklinton-based New City Homes is asking for a variance at 245 N Monroe in the KLB neighborhood to split a 0.5 acre lot in order to construct four new SFHs. 
 

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More site clearing, and more equipment, getting ready for the construction of the large multi family project Triumph from Metro Holdings. Hopefully an actual start to construction isn’t far off now. 
 

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In other Near East Side news, a permit to demo the old Save A Lot has been issued, as well as approval for the new multi family building, now named The Ethan. I believe this was first proposed about a year ago. 
 

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I also don’t recall ever seeing any renderings for the project, but the developer now has a website for it that contains several renderings. Nothing special, but it’s better than an empty building. 
 

https://ethanmain.com

 

Not too far down Main St, Preston Pointe will rise on what is now an empty lot. 

19 hours ago, amped91 said:

More site clearing, and more equipment, getting ready for the construction of the large multi family project Triumph from Metro Holdings. Hopefully an actual start to construction isn’t far off now. 
 

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In other Near East Side news, a permit to demo the old Save A Lot has been issued, as well as approval for the new multi family building, now named The Ethan. I believe this was first proposed about a year ago. 
 

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I also don’t recall ever seeing any renderings for the project, but the developer now has a website for it that contains several renderings. Nothing special, but it’s better than an empty building. 
 

https://ethanmain.com

 

Not too far down Main St, Preston Pointe will rise on what is now an empty lot. 

It's nice that Main is getting this type of infill.  There's so much opportunity up and down E. Main for denser development and it really should be building up along the entire corridor.   

Also, in terms of development along Main.  Interesting pull when looking through permits.  Bunch of roof work is going on at the old Rock of Faith Church on Main.  Owner is labeled as, "Rosette on Main"  and the address is the same as Equity Construction Solutions.  Surprised nothing has been heard anywhere else on this and it could be nothing, but still intriguing.

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25 minutes ago, atothek said:

It's nice that Main is getting this type of infill.  There's so much opportunity up and down E. Main for denser development and it really should be building up along the entire corridor.   

Yes! Really, all the East-West corridors on the East Side (Main, Livingston, Long, even Broad to some extent) have so many opportunities for growth and providing more housing, opportunities for small business and improved quality of life. 

Near East Side's Diehl-Whittaker Funeral Home eyed for redevelopment by Kelley Cos.

 

New apartments could come to the Bronzeville neighborhood on the site of the Diehl-Whittaker Funeral Home.

 

Kelley Cos. plans to redevelop the East Long Street site with 90 apartments and a little over 5,000 square feet of commercial space. There would be about 1,500 square feet of underground commercial space, accessible from Long Street, that the developer hopes will be filled by a cultural use, like a jazz club. The developer would also add about 100 parking spots on the site.

 

The apartments would be market-rate, with 15 studio, 54 one-bedroom and 21 two-bedroom units. There would be a rooftop amenity and a second-floor patio amenity space, both with views of the downtown skyline. There would also be a fitness facility in the building.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/06/07/near-east-side-diehl-whittaker-funeral-home-kelley.html

 

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1 hour ago, ColDayMan said:

Near East Side's Diehl-Whittaker Funeral Home eyed for redevelopment by Kelley Cos.

 

New apartments could come to the Bronzeville neighborhood on the site of the Diehl-Whittaker Funeral Home.

 

Kelley Cos. plans to redevelop the East Long Street site with 90 apartments and a little over 5,000 square feet of commercial space. There would be about 1,500 square feet of underground commercial space, accessible from Long Street, that the developer hopes will be filled by a cultural use, like a jazz club. The developer would also add about 100 parking spots on the site.

 

The apartments would be market-rate, with 15 studio, 54 one-bedroom and 21 two-bedroom units. There would be a rooftop amenity and a second-floor patio amenity space, both with views of the downtown skyline. There would also be a fitness facility in the building.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/06/07/near-east-side-diehl-whittaker-funeral-home-kelley.html

 

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This building looks so good and would be perfect in that spot. Hopefully there isn’t push back.

6 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

This building looks so good and would be perfect in that spot. Hopefully there isn’t push back.

Agree.  It looks great and different and is the kind of density we need near downtown.  Huge fan of this proposed development  It'd be welcome.

The Whale that German Village TRULY deserved. 

My, that is attractive!

Update on “The Ethan” project:

 

The former Save-A-Lot building is no more. 
 

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I think this one is new. An LLC called Oak Street Living wants to construct 51 housing units on an empty lot at 1235 Oak St. It would consist of one detached SFH, one attached SFH and 49 studio and 1BR apartments spread across seven three-story buildings. 
 

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Kelley Cos.' Near East Side project moves forward

 

A Kelley Cos. project that aims to redevelop a funeral home property on the Near East Side into housing now awaits approval from Columbus City Council.

 

The project to redevelop the Diehl-Whittaker Funeral Home at 720 E. Long St. was approved last week by the development commission and the Near East Side area commission.

 

Kelley Cos. plans to create a five-story building with 90 apartments and a little over 5,000 square feet of commercial space. It would also include about 1,500 square feet of underground commercial space, accessible from Long Street, that the developer hopes will be filled by a cultural use, such as a jazz club.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/06/13/long-street-project-follow-up.html

 

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^That's a good looking building!

1 hour ago, ColDayMan said:

Kelley Cos.' Near East Side project moves forward

 

A Kelley Cos. project that aims to redevelop a funeral home property on the Near East Side into housing now awaits approval from Columbus City Council.

 

The project to redevelop the Diehl-Whittaker Funeral Home at 720 E. Long St. was approved last week by the development commission and the Near East Side area commission.

 

Kelley Cos. plans to create a five-story building with 90 apartments and a little over 5,000 square feet of commercial space. It would also include about 1,500 square feet of underground commercial space, accessible from Long Street, that the developer hopes will be filled by a cultural use, such as a jazz club.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/06/13/long-street-project-follow-up.html

 

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Hopefully city council approves it quickly and they start on it by the end of summer. 

  • 5 weeks later...

Some smaller projects seeking approval on the East Side:

 

A developer wants approval for restaurant space on the basement and first levels of a building at 1685 Oak, right down the road from the East Market. Currently, the first floor is boarded up and the second level is apartments. 
 

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And a developer wants to build a total of 11 townhomes on two separate vacant lots both on E Rich. One building containing four units at 1129 and two buildings containing a total of seven at 1223. 5BD88746-A5D0-401A-9B77-D47F1B7A344D.thumb.jpeg.456808b6052f35a3ab40f4b78de696e6.jpeg
 

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14 minutes ago, amped91 said:

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Thankfully it sounds like no one was hurt in the collapse. Sadly, I’m sure the rest of the building will come down now. 
 

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This sucks, not many of those older buildings in that area are left, and I’m sure this one is now gone. Glad no one was hurt 

Such a shame.

 

 

Unfortunate news. This building was a standout on Long Street. 

 

Here's a photo I took in 2010:

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Did it collapse due to fire?  Or just years of neglect the city allowed?

12 hours ago, jonoh81 said:

Did it collapse due to fire?  Or just years of neglect the city allowed?

Neglect it seems.  In the story it says that an inspector was already in the area by coincidence.  They were looking at another building when they heard the sounds coming from the building and called the fire department.

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58 minutes ago, TH3BUDDHA said:

Neglect it seems.  In the story it says that an inspector was already in the area by coincidence.  They were looking at another building when they heard the sounds coming from the building and called the fire department.

 

Weird how you only see these kinds of things in places like the NES or Franklinton.  

1 hour ago, jonoh81 said:

Weird how you only see these kinds of things in places like the NES or Franklinton.  

Why is it weird to see this in neighborhoods that have been neglected for decades?  I wouldn't expect this to happen in German Village or Victorian Village because those buildings have constantly been maintained.

23 minutes ago, TH3BUDDHA said:

Why is it weird to see this in neighborhoods that have been neglected for decades?  I wouldn't expect this to happen in German Village or Victorian Village because those buildings have constantly been maintained.

 

Yes, that's kind of my point.  That poor and minority neighborhoods have been neglected for decades, and have lacked the kind of oversight that would've held negligent owners more accountable for maintaining their buildings.  Though in more than a few cases, the City itself was the neglectful owner.  There is a reason that so much of the East Side was torn down or otherwise lost over the last 50 years.

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3 hours ago, jonoh81 said:

 

Yes, that's kind of my point.  That poor and minority neighborhoods have been neglected for decades, and have lacked the kind of oversight that would've held negligent owners more accountable for maintaining their buildings.  Though in more than a few cases, the City itself was the neglectful owner.  There is a reason that so much of the East Side was torn down or otherwise lost over the last 50 years.

I mean, didn't those neighborhoods just suffer population decline as a result of flight to the suburbs, resulting in deterioration of the neighborhoods?  Hard to force property owners to invest when you have a neighborhood filled with empty buildings.  Tearing them down is just the alternative to maintaining an unoccupied building.  It obviously sucks that we lost so much, but I can understand the reasoning if people didn't want to live there anymore.

 

 

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Kind of a pretty standard disinvestment story. Rip up the streetcar tracks, bypass it with a freeway, build a bunch of new stuff on the edge of town and see what happens.

On 7/19/2022 at 3:47 PM, TH3BUDDHA said:

I mean, didn't those neighborhoods just suffer population decline as a result of flight to the suburbs, resulting in deterioration of the neighborhoods?  Hard to force property owners to invest when you have a neighborhood filled with empty buildings.  Tearing them down is just the alternative to maintaining an unoccupied building.  It obviously sucks that we lost so much, but I can understand the reasoning if people didn't want to live there anymore.

 

 

 

No, the decline coincided with ramming highways through them and tearing a bunch of things down, followed by decades of lack of any investment.  In both cases, the destruction of these neighborhoods was arguably intentional and destroyed the fabric of these neighborhoods.  White flight played a relatively small role, especially on the NES where so much of the population was already non-white before the highways were even built.  King-Lincoln, after all, was a historic Black neighborhood.  Let's not forget that Columbus had to be sued- and lost- in the 1970s to stop segregating its school buildings, so it's not like this kind of thing wasn't going on.  Population loss occurred throughout the urban core, but only specific neighborhoods saw widespread demolitions.    

Furthermore, the City often used shady tactics to get a lot of things torn down that could've otherwise been renovated, such as sitting on property for months- even years- and then telling neighborhood activists trying to save them that they had arbitrarily short deadlines to come up with plans for buildings that were often impossible to adhere to (1072 E. Long).  Or claiming that it would cost too much to renovate a building versus building new, only to have it cost more to tear it down and build something new, even when the new building was actually smaller (905 E. Long).  There was little oversight and little care to working with neighborhoods to save anything.  Neighborhood organizations and leaders often called out City leadership for these tactics- they knew what was going on- but were basically ignored. 

As for the latest collapse, I couldn't really find anything about structural deficiences.  It had been sold at least 5 times in 20 years, but no maintenance or improvements occurred, and there were no issued violations related to condition.  Only a few code violations regarding things like weeds and grafitti seem to exist.  It did not have to happen.    

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

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The Triumph project from Metro Holdings at 18th and Oak has now officially broken ground and is beginning to go vertical. 
 

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A bit further east on Oak, a local developer is adding onto this “1920” building to create a 10 unit apartment building. 
 

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Directly across the street is currently an empty lot. However, another developer is proposing 50+ units for this site. It should go up before Council for a vote tomorrow night. 
 

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In the Woodlank Park neighborhood, this 27 unit apartment building has gone up recently. 
 

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Diehl-Whittaker Funeral Home/Kelly Cos. development site. After multiple speakers, the development received zoning approval at last nights city council meeting. The project was approved earlier by the Bronzeville Neighborhood Association. Multiple speakers from the community spoke highly of the development and its role in building back Long Street/creating an entrance to the community. (7-23-22)

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This development will be the first to be built directly along the rebuilt innerbelt frontage roads/green space. As more of the I-71/70 - Downtown Ram Up project gets completed, we should see additional developments around it to help bridge these gaps left from when the innerbelt was first built (particularly Broad). The phase just south of Long should be wrapping up this fall. 

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Shiloh Baptist Apartment development, 31-unit Building on Mt Vernon

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51-unit Building on Hamilton site

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Adelphi Quarter and a resurfaced Long Street with curb bumpouts

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6-unit Development on Long between Miami and 20th

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1020 E Long St renovation

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Remains of 20th and Long

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48 Parkwood Avenue renovation and apartment building development

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1242 Oak Street renovation and expansion

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Site of the proposed 51-unit development at 1235 Oak Street

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The proposed building would be between the grey home pictured above and Wilson Market on the corner. The .77 acre site received rezoning approval at last nights City Council meeting. Here is the proposed sight plan:

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Eye Homes condominium building at Oak and Wilson

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The Morgan Phase 3

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The Triumph at 18th and Oak

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Bryden Row Condominiums 

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Rich Street infill between 21st and 22nd

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750 East Broad Apartment Building

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Love seeing all this development on the Near East Side. The bones of the neighborhood are already so solid - the additional residential and buildup of the neighborhoods in the area can really make these communities thrive. I'm hoping as residents and business continue to infill the neighborhoods that transit can also be improved. Two of the proposed LinkUS BRT routes go through the Near East Side. That along with better bike lanes along the main corridors will really create a cohesive environment.

 

It looks like the treatments to bridges on Spring and Long between downtown and King-Lincoln Bronzeville are making the area a bit more hospitable to development. I can't remember if Broad, Oak, and Main will receive similar treatment (planters, trees, landscaping)? Really, the whole section of I-71 from Spring to Main needs to be capped. But we all know the hurdles holding that back.

13 minutes ago, CMHOhio said:

Love seeing all this development on the Near East Side. The bones of the neighborhood are already so solid - the additional residential and buildup of the neighborhoods in the area can really make these communities thrive. I'm hoping as residents and business continue to infill the neighborhoods that transit can also be improved. Two of the proposed LinkUS BRT routes go through the Near East Side. That along with better bike lanes along the main corridors will really create a cohesive environment.

 

It looks like the treatments to bridges on Spring and Long between downtown and King-Lincoln Bronzeville are making the area a bit more hospitable to development. I can't remember if Broad, Oak, and Main will receive similar treatment (planters, trees, landscaping)? Really, the whole section of I-71 from Spring to Main needs to be capped. But we all know the hurdles holding that back.

There's so much opportunity in this neighborhood that I think it's on the cusp of it being a really exciting downtown community.  To add to the better bike lanes, I know that the city is planning on expanding the current curb cuts along Bryden this year from 18th to Fairwood.  While it isn't a dedicated lane (and I would love for them to get rid of half the parking on Bryden in deference to a dedicated (dare I say, grade separated) bike lane) it is further movement in the direction of making the interior of the neighborhood more friendly to non-car forms of transportation.

1 hour ago, CMHOhio said:

Love seeing all this development on the Near East Side. The bones of the neighborhood are already so solid - the additional residential and buildup of the neighborhoods in the area can really make these communities thrive. I'm hoping as residents and business continue to infill the neighborhoods that transit can also be improved. Two of the proposed LinkUS BRT routes go through the Near East Side. That along with better bike lanes along the main corridors will really create a cohesive environment.

 

It looks like the treatments to bridges on Spring and Long between downtown and King-Lincoln Bronzeville are making the area a bit more hospitable to development. I can't remember if Broad, Oak, and Main will receive similar treatment (planters, trees, landscaping)? Really, the whole section of I-71 from Spring to Main needs to be capped. But we all know the hurdles holding that back.

I would love that so much. Maybe some day…

Kelley Cos.' latest Near East Side project moves forward


But Kathleen Bailey, former president of the Near East Side Area Commission, was among those who say the development is a step toward bringing Long Street back as a major retail corridor. 

"I want to see Long Street brought back," she said. "(The Kelley Cos.) has embodied the spirit of what used to be the Near East Side, of Long Street, of Mt. Vernon (Avenue) ... I'm just glad I get to live long enough to see it become a reality."

 

so nice to see a neighborhood that is actually excited for new builds and wants more. 

 

 

Every neighborhood needs a Kathleen Bailey.

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1 hour ago, VintageLife said:

Kelley Cos.' latest Near East Side project moves forward


But Kathleen Bailey, former president of the Near East Side Area Commission, was among those who say the development is a step toward bringing Long Street back as a major retail corridor. 

"I want to see Long Street brought back," she said. "(The Kelley Cos.) has embodied the spirit of what used to be the Near East Side, of Long Street, of Mt. Vernon (Avenue) ... I'm just glad I get to live long enough to see it become a reality."

 

so nice to see a neighborhood that is actually excited for new builds and wants more. 

 

 

There were a couple speakers who spoke in opposition to it. Brought up the usual parking and how it’s going to increase rent for those in the neighborhood. But I was glad to see the majority of speakers were in support of it. 

My only comment is 

 

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The developer plans to put up a five-story building with 90 apartments, a little over 5,000 square feet of commercial space and 1,500 square feet of underground commercial space accessible from Long Street.

 

The rendering clearly shows a 6-story building.  Did it get knocked down a floor?

 

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23 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

My only comment is 

 

 

The rendering clearly shows a 6-story building.  Did it get knocked down a floor?

 

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The back part is only 5 stories, I wonder if they front 6th floor isn’t a floor and is just design, or just a typo? 

5 hours ago, CMHOhio said:

Love seeing all this development on the Near East Side. The bones of the neighborhood are already so solid - the additional residential and buildup of the neighborhoods in the area can really make these communities thrive. I'm hoping as residents and business continue to infill the neighborhoods that transit can also be improved. Two of the proposed LinkUS BRT routes go through the Near East Side. That along with better bike lanes along the main corridors will really create a cohesive environment.

 

It looks like the treatments to bridges on Spring and Long between downtown and King-Lincoln Bronzeville are making the area a bit more hospitable to development. I can't remember if Broad, Oak, and Main will receive similar treatment (planters, trees, landscaping)? Really, the whole section of I-71 from Spring to Main needs to be capped. But we all know the hurdles holding that back.

 

The new Broad Street bridge (under construction now) will have planters and trees with decorative panels similar to the Spring Street bridge:

 

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The Main and Town St bridges will also have planters and decorative panels (though I'm not sure if they'll have trees or only smaller plantings). The Oak St bridge will be similar to the Grant Ave bridge, with decorative fencing but no other enhancements. The projects that build the Main, Town, and Oak St bridges do not currently have funding for construction.

50 minutes ago, .justin said:

The projects that build the Main, Town, and Oak St bridges do not currently have funding for construction.

Those bridges really need to go.  They look absolutely horrible next to the new Broad St bridge when driving down 71.  They really stick out like sore thumbs.

Here are some photos of the new Broad Street overpass I posted in the I-70/I-71 thread:

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And here's Spring a block up

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Phase 3B is scheduled for completion Fall 2022

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With the South Innerbelt segment coming next (ETA Fall 2026), it could be over 6 years until the remaining section of the East Innerbelt/Town and Oak overpasses are completed. 

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49 minutes ago, NorthShore647 said:

Here are some photos of the new Broad Street overpass I posted in the I-70/I-71 thread:

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And here's Spring a block up

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Phase 3B is scheduled for completion Fall 2022

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With the South Innerbelt segment coming next (ETA Fall 2026), it could be over 6 years until the remaining section of the East Innerbelt/Town and Oak overpasses are completed. 

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Maybe sometime in the not so distant future, they will just cap the whole damn thing. 

12 hours ago, VintageLife said:

Maybe sometime in the not so distant future, they will just cap the whole damn thing. 

 

Pittsburgh opened their park highway cap last year

 

I was a little curious so:

 

Pittsburgh's park cost $32 million for just under ~3 acers (only 1/2 of which actually capped I-579). For a Columbus size comparison that's a little smaller than a cap needed for I-71 between Oak and Town. 

 

For some very rough back of the envelope calculations based on Pittsburgh cost of ~$10 million/acre, it would cost ~$200 million for an East Innerbelt park that caps the 5 segments over the trench from Spring to Main. A South Innerbelt park over the 4 gaps from Front to Grant would be ~$150 million. So a full cap of both Innerbelt trenches could be around ~$350 million. The I71/70 Downtown Ramp Up cost is listed at $1.4 billion. On the higher end, Seattle's and Dallas's park caps cost (adjusting for inflation) between ~$24-28 million per acre. At that cost, a full East/South Innerbelt trench cap could be ~$900 million. 

 

Some of the necessary work for a cap park is already being done with the Ramp Up project though (overpasses, trench retaining walls, frontage roads, etc...) so that could bring down the cost. If the cost is somewhere between Dallas and Pittsburgh, it would be around ~$600 million for a full cap. So the complete Downtown Ramp Up project with a full park cap would cost about ~$2 billion. Annual park maintenance costs would be in the millions as well. It's an interesting thought, taking this king of an infrastructure project to its largest theoretical extent, but its potential costs may likely outweigh its benefits (improved health outcomes, property values, etc...) when compared with other potential projects. This is however being considered here as one large .7 miles long project. A pilot highway cap park on a smaller segment (Oak to Broad) may only cost ~$40 million. If there is a capping on the innerbelt, the southern trench may be more a likely candidate as it is closer to the denser activity centers of downtown.

 

Columbus isn't short on big picture infrastructure proposals at the moment though. LinkUS and Rapid5 would both likely generate greater benefits on a per dollar basis than a full highway cap. An East Main BRT line or upgrades to Alum Creek could really improve the Near East Side. 

 

TL;DR - A full park cap of the East Innerbelt (Spring to Main) may cost ~$350 million, ~$600 million including the South  Innerbelt, based off of similar projects costs. The smallest segment of the east trench from Broad to Oak streets could be capped with a park for ~$40 million. 

3 minutes ago, NorthShore647 said:

 

Pittsburgh opened their park highway cap last year

 

 

 

Seems kinda...sunny. I'm assuming there are limitations on planting trees given that they didn't plant a single tree there. Perhaps they engineered it differently than the cap in Dallas, given that Dallas planted numerous trees on theirs. 

On 7/28/2022 at 1:24 PM, NorthShore647 said:

 

Pittsburgh opened their park highway cap last year

 

I was a little curious so:

 

Pittsburgh's park cost $32 million for just under ~3 acers (only 1/2 of which actually capped I-579). For a Columbus size comparison that's a little smaller than a cap needed for I-71 between Oak and Town. 

 

For some very rough back of the envelope calculations based on Pittsburgh cost of ~$10 million/acre, it would cost ~$200 million for an East Innerbelt park that caps the 5 segments over the trench from Spring to Main. A South Innerbelt park over the 4 gaps from Front to Grant would be ~$150 million. So a full cap of both Innerbelt trenches could be around ~$350 million. The I71/70 Downtown Ramp Up cost is listed at $1.4 billion. On the higher end, Seattle's and Dallas's park caps cost (adjusting for inflation) between ~$24-28 million per acre. At that cost, a full East/South Innerbelt trench cap could be ~$900 million. 

 

Some of the necessary work for a cap park is already being done with the Ramp Up project though (overpasses, trench retaining walls, frontage roads, etc...) so that could bring down the cost. If the cost is somewhere between Dallas and Pittsburgh, it would be around ~$600 million for a full cap. So the complete Downtown Ramp Up project with a full park cap would cost about ~$2 billion. Annual park maintenance costs would be in the millions as well. It's an interesting thought, taking this king of an infrastructure project to its largest theoretical extent, but its potential costs may likely outweigh its benefits (improved health outcomes, property values, etc...) when compared with other potential projects. This is however being considered here as one large .7 miles long project. A pilot highway cap park on a smaller segment (Oak to Broad) may only cost ~$40 million. If there is a capping on the innerbelt, the southern trench may be more a likely candidate as it is closer to the denser activity centers of downtown.

 

Columbus isn't short on big picture infrastructure proposals at the moment though. LinkUS and Rapid5 would both likely generate greater benefits on a per dollar basis than a full highway cap. An East Main BRT line or upgrades to Alum Creek could really improve the Near East Side. 

 

TL;DR - A full park cap of the East Innerbelt (Spring to Main) may cost ~$350 million, ~$600 million including the South  Innerbelt, based off of similar projects costs. The smallest segment of the east trench from Broad to Oak streets could be capped with a park for ~$40 million. 

I would be completely fine with $40-$60 million in tax dollars going to these projects every year, or every few years. 

Edited by VintageLife

On 7/18/2022 at 3:45 PM, ink said:

Unfortunate news. This building was a standout on Long Street. 

 

Here's a photo I took in 2010:

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Here’s the block in 1922, a nice neighborhood commercial strip. 

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26 minutes ago, Pablo said:


Here’s the block in 1922, a nice neighborhood commercial strip. 

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It’s sad what happened to the east side and all the retail along Long St and Main st 

On 7/27/2022 at 3:26 PM, TH3BUDDHA said:

Those bridges really need to go.  They look absolutely horrible next to the new Broad St bridge when driving down 71.  They really stick out like sore thumbs.

I don’t know of any plans for it, but the Parsons bridge over the 70-E on-ramp needs to go too. It looks like a mess, and the sidewalk is barely walkable. 

  • 2 weeks later...
On 9/24/2019 at 2:30 PM, jonoh81 said:

 

Anyone know what happened with this?  It doesn't appear anything was ever done, but the same guy still owns it.

I know some things about that project. From what I understand masonry restoration should be about done or done by now. They're going to do amazing things with it!

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