Typical conservative nature.....claim to be one thing but act in a different manner.  This group siad they just could not support a light rail tax, that they claimed to be an economic disaster :|  Apparently this organization is only against the taxes they want to be against....not equal across the board.

 

Oh yeah, I forgot equal isn't in the republicans vocabulary!

 

Anti-tax group buys pro-tax calls

COAST puts Deters' voice behind jail plan

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

The mystery of who paid for controversial automated telephone calls about a new jail has been solved. David Langdon, a Sharonville attorney who admitted he "facilitated" the calls but refused to say who paid for them, has confessed.

 

E-mail [email protected]

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060817/NEWS01/608170393/1056

I'm not real sure how to take your comment...either it is extremely sarcastic or you hate me :|

Typical conservative nature.....claim to be one thing but act in a different manner.  This group siad they just could not support a light rail tax, that they claimed to be an economic disaster :|  Apparently this organization is only against the taxes they want to be against....not equal across the board.

 

Oh yeah, I forgot equal isn't in the republicans vocabulary!

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060817/NEWS01/608170393/1056

 

You're right!  Worth it to me to have jail space to keep all the criminals off the streets, rather than providing them easy transportation to my suburban palacial estate!

 

Of course we believe in equality!  Equal jail space for all criminals, be they inner city drug pushers or illegal alien home builders!   :wink2:

 

Could you be any more conservative? Like 6.5 percent sales tax is so ridiculously high... I think both should be a priority. Republicans don't want public transit going through their neighborhoods because they think it's going to bring in the "undesirables" to the area and lower their property values... God forbid an outsider steps one foot inside your uptopian homogenous village. That would be horrendous. Please...

 

Public transit would be doing a hell of a lot more good than it would be doing bad.

 

 

 

Anti-tax group speaks up

COAST active in local politics, despite recent setback

BY KIMBALL PERRY | [email protected]

January 29, 2007

 

CINCINNATI - They're few but loud, conservative and proud.

 

For nine years now, the group has harangued politicians - especially those from their own Republican Party. They've helped shape political policy, elect like-minded Republicans and attacked those who don't agree with them.

 

But if the last election is any indication, COAST - the Coalition Opposed to Additional Spending and Taxes - may not be the power they once were.

 

Their hero, Phil Heimlich, was ousted in the Nov. 7 election even though he was an incumbent Republican who set fundraising records in a predominantly GOP county.

 

Just two of the seven candidates COAST endorsed last fall won.

 

The politician COAST most loathes, Congresswoman Jean Schmidt, won despite the group's efforts to unseat her.

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070129/NEWS01/701290320/1077/COL02

Just a real quick overview of this group that is a plague to Cincinnati:

 

Items the group opposes:

-School Levies

-Gay Rights

-Cincinnati's Olympic Bid

-Light Rail

-and anything else that requires public money

 

Hey don't get me wrong...I don't think its right to go to the taxpayer for everything...but damn you can't simply say NO NEW TAXES period!  This is a ridiculous group that is right up there with CCV for the problems they are causing for Cincinnati!

 

Oh and here are some other events COAST was involved with:

 

-Last summer, a recorded telephone message encouraged people to attend public hearings on "Phil Heimlich's jail plan." When COAST was asked who paid for the "robocalls," member David Langdon replied "None of your business" three times. However, campaign finance records show COAST paid $8,680 to a Pittsburgh company for "call transactions" last year.

 

-COAST co-founder Chris Finney screamed at David Pepper last summer when Pepper was running for Hamilton County commissioner. Finney - a friend, political supporter and business partner of Pepper's opponent, incumbent Republican Phil Heimlich - unleashed a string of expletives during a Pepper press conference, including telling Pepper to "kiss my ass." Pepper says Finney's rant helped him defeat Heimlich, and gave Democrats a majority on the Hamilton County commission for the first time since 1962.

From the thread title I thought the subject would be Lake Erie.

Well, they supported the Hamilton Co jail levy & a plan to control state taxation by tying it in with inflation (?). The latter plan called for an initial tax hike.

Yeah, I agree, the just say no strategy is dumb & they seem pretty weak on coming up with ways to privately finance the issues they don't want publicly funded.

Jeez, it's just 4 people.

Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters wouldn't also comment on COAST because his office is investigating allegations of forgery involving signatures on an anti-gay rights initiative pushed by COAST.

 

Er...the Coalition Opposed to Additional Spending and Taxes...who are trying to stop gay rights initiatives.  Um, can you say "specification creep"?

 

it's not as if they have a charter to hold to, so these five random guys can do whatever the hell they want.

I see these clowns are back at work.

 

Anti-tax group opposes film commission funding plan

Cincinnati Business Courier - 9:58 AM EDT Thursday, March 22, 2007

 

A Tri-State group says it will file suit if Hamilton County and the city of Cincinnati go ahead with a plan to fund the Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky Film Commission.

 

The city and county had made plans to spend surplus money from the hotel/motel tax that had been used for the expansion of Duke Energy Center, which included funding the film commission. The Coalition Opposed to Additional Spending and Taxes (COAST) maintained in a news release that the city and county are exceeding their authority to utilize the money, which they said should be spent only for the construction, maintenance or marketing of the downtown convention center.

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2007/03/19/daily34.html?surround=lfn

From the thread title I thought the subject would be Lake Erie.

 

Lol.  I thought it'd be some developer trying to make artificial beachfront subdivisions. XP

 

Well, they supported the Hamilton Co jail levy & a plan to control state taxation by tying it in with inflation (?). The latter plan called for an initial tax hike.

Yeah, I agree, the just say no strategy is dumb & they seem pretty weak on coming up with ways to privately finance the issues they don't want publicly funded.

Jeez, it's just 4 people.

 

Fail.

By fail I mean "COAST" fails, not you Quimb.

 

I see these clowns are back at work.

 

Anti-tax group opposes film commission funding plan

Cincinnati Business Courier - 9:58 AM EDT Thursday, March 22, 2007

 

A Tri-State group says it will file suit if Hamilton County and the city of Cincinnati go ahead with a plan to fund the Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky Film Commission.

 

The city and county had made plans to spend surplus money from the hotel/motel tax that had been used for the expansion of Duke Energy Center, which included funding the film commission. The Coalition Opposed to Additional Spending and Taxes (COAST) maintained in a news release that the city and county are exceeding their authority to utilize the money, which they said should be spent only for the construction, maintenance or marketing of the downtown convention center.

 

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2007/03/19/daily34.html?surround=lfn

 

Morons...

But I guess only COAST knows how things should be run, and no one else.  :rolleyes: -_-

COAST's Shifting Line on Jail 'Crisis'

 

BY Kevin Osborne | Posted 08/20/2008

 

In one of life's little ironies, an anti-tax group that prides itself on trying to save taxpayer money and stop government waste actually helped set the stage for squandering millions of dollars in taxpayer money on an unneeded expense.

 

http://citybeat.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A145885

When you think of COAST, think of...

 

COAST Murtha tweet draws fire

Posted by jbrown February 9th, 2010, 5:30 pm

 

The Hamilton County Democratic Party Tuesday condemned the Citizens Opposed to Additional Spending and Taxes for its “tasteless” tweets about the death of U. S. Rep. John Murtha.

 

Murtha died Monday, prompting this tweet from COAST in typical rabble-rousing style:

 

Click through to read the posts.

COAST, always the class act.

What a bunch of azzhats!!

COAST Chairman Faces Foreclosure

 

CityBeat doesn’t like to revel in anyone’s misery or misfortune. Sometimes, though, there’s a confluence between a person’s political philosophy and subsequent events that begs for attention and analysis. One such instance is the foreclosure and impending sale of the house owned by an anti-tax leader.

 

Jason Gloyd, chairman of the Coalition Opposed to Additional Spending and Taxes (COAST), will have his home sold at public auction at the Hamilton County Courthouse on Thursday.

Brunner to Portman: End COAST ties

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/politics/2010/02/11/brunner-to-portman-end-coast-ties/

COAST's antics have caught the attention of prominent progressive blog site Daily Kos:

 

OH-Sen Goes Godwin

I miss The Phony Coney.

Several on Twitter have posted that Mark Miller's home is in foreclosure http://t.co/v020a9hJ

 

Filed last December though...

City Bleat questions COA T's sanity.

http://www.citybeat.com/cincinnati/blog-2766-is_coast_schizophrenic.html

I'm pretty sure people post claptrap under the guise of COA T but it's hard to tell since the real COA Ters are so over the top to begin with.

City Bleat questions COA T's sanity.

http://www.citybeat.com/cincinnati/blog-2766-is_coast_schizophrenic.html

I'm pretty sure people post claptrap under the guise of COA T but it's hard to tell since the real COA Ters are so over the top to begin with.

 

I like your sentence use of the word claptrap.  You don't see that word very often anymore

 

I like your sentence use of the word claptrap.  You don't see that word very often anymore

yeah, I'm old - I get it.

COA TERS Use Courts To Snoop For E-Mails From Sharonville City Official

 

"Lawyer Chris Finney, a power in the local anti-tax and small government group known as COAST, has filed a lawsuit demanding access to e-mails Sharonville's Economic Development Specialist Tammy Riddle sent to 28 people in the run-up to last fall's Cincinnati city elections."

more:

http://thebellwetherdaily.blogspot.com/2012/01/cincinnatis-yp-cincypac-in-public.html

Remember kids, don't make any effort to improve Cincinnati, or else a suburban right-wing hate group will file suit to snoop through your emails and then use whatever information they find to humiliate and intimidate you into silence. Keep your head down, or it will get chopped off.

 

Never mind that whole "free speech" and "small government" thing that libertarians supposedly believe in. That only applies to their own tweets and blog entries that contain outright lies about the streetcar. As for your own personal emails, it's perfectly acceptable to force the government to make them public.

Looks like Finney and friends raked in $10,000 from their latest settlement with the city:

 

Quinlivan repays city $1,500 for computer use

 

Written by

Dan Horn

 

Cincinnati City Council Member Laure Quinlivan will reimburse the city $1,500 for using her office computers for campaign purposes.

 

The voluntary payment is part of a deal to end a court battle between Quinlivan and an anti-tax group that accused her of using city computers and resources to raise money and support for her re-election campaign.

 

The city initially tried to resolve the matter by charging Quinlivan 13 cents for the cost of the bandwith she used when accessing her website with her City Hall computer.

 

But the Coalition Opposed to Additional Spending & Taxes says it found evidence that she and her staff spent at least 30 hours of city time accessing and modifying the website during the past year. The website, www.lqreportingtoyou.com, had included information about campaign events and a contribution button that allowed users to donate to her campaign.

These guys act so much on primitive emotion, they are bound to come crashing down in public humiliation at some point. They will do something illegal during the course of their loony crusade, it will come to light, and that will be the end of COAST as it exists today.

Other rightwing extremists are taking TOAST's queue with  threatening to sue the City when they don't get their way:  http://thebellwetherdaily.blogspot.com/2012/01/burress-citizens-for-community-values.html?showComment=1326332746514&m=1#c3343370787254639170!

^Nice read, but why is a lot of the text whited out with black text?

^Nice read, but why is a lot of the text whited out with black text?

 

I had the same issue when I tried to read the article on my mobile, but it was fine on my laptop. Weird.

^Nice read, but why is a lot of the text whited out with black text?

 

I had the same issue when I tried to read the article on my mobile, but it was fine on my laptop. Weird.

Dunno what's going on but try it without the show comment part

http://thebellwetherdaily.blogspot.com/2012/01/burress-citizens-for-community-values.html

Given the Coast-host and the price of the tickets, I bet attendance will be very, very low.  I am sure Tom Luken will be hanging around out front for a photo op though!

Given the Coast-host and the price of the tickets, I bet attendance will be very, very low.  I am sure Tom Luken will be hanging around out front for a photo op though!

 

It will be like the TOAST fundrasier that that nobody showed up for, but the local media pimped anyway:

 

http://cincinnatimonocle.blogspot.com/2011/10/nobody-showed-up-to-oct-3-coast.html

Other rightwing extremists are taking TOAST's queue with  threatening to sue the City when they don't get their way:  http://thebellwetherdaily.blogspot.com/2012/01/burress-citizens-for-community-values.html?showComment=1326332746514&m=1#c3343370787254639170!

 

With the way the state's constitutional amendment is worded, they may very well have a case there.

^Nice read, but why is a lot of the text whited out with black text?

 

It's probably optimized for Internet Explorer and wasn't tested on anything else. They somehow managed to do that to a Blogspot.

Other rightwing extremists are taking TOAST's queue with  threatening to sue the City when they don't get their way:  http://thebellwetherdaily.blogspot.com/2012/01/burress-citizens-for-community-values.html?showComment=1326332746514&m=1#c3343370787254639170!

 

With the way the state's constitutional amendment is worded, they may very well have a case there.

 

IMO if they were to win it would just serve to agitate a backlash. It would wipe out similar laws in Cleveland and Columbus, making the issue statewide. Even people who wish to "defend marriage" do not generally wish to deny health insurance, etc.

 

It could be a blessing in disguise for gay rights proponents, if enough people are appalled by such unwanted repercussions of the amendment.

In news shocking no one, COAST is going to sue the Mayor and the city on the whole 'pocket veto' thing

Without some sort of legal agreement between 2 people I don't think benefits are warranted.

Without some sort of legal agreement between 2 people I don't think benefits are warranted.

 

I would agree except in the case where the two people are denied the possibility of entering a "legal agreement" due to (e.g.) their genders.

 

Then you run into the problem where it's impossible to say whether the people would enter a legal contract were that option available, so you have to decide whether it's more fair to a) deny benefits to some who are deserving, or b) give benefits to some who are not deserving. Then, absent data regarding the proportion of people who will take unfair advantage of the system, there's little more to go on than your moral-emotional reaction to the discriminatory nature of the status quo.

 

How much do you care that some people may be facing financial-medical-health emergencies simply because their life partner who works for the city is the same gender as they are rather than the opposite gender? If you don't really care about that, then there's no reason to run the risk of cheaters milking the system, regardless of frequency or rarity. If you do see an inherent injustice, then righting that wrong is probably less important than a few people pretending to be in a more serious relationship than they're really in.

 

UC has a similar rule for faculty & staff, and I know an unmarried (straight) couple who are registered as domestic partners. I doubt it is a huge problem, but clearly there are some people taking advantage. The easiest way to make everything kosher would be to legalize same-sex marriage in Ohio. Voila -- no one's deprived of their benefits, no one's cheating to obtain them.

Other rightwing extremists are taking TOAST's queue with  threatening to sue the City when they don't get their way:  http://thebellwetherdaily.blogspot.com/2012/01/burress-citizens-for-community-values.html?showComment=1326332746514&m=1#c3343370787254639170!

 

With the way the state's constitutional amendment is worded, they may very well have a case there.

 

IMO if they were to win it would just serve to agitate a backlash. It would wipe out similar laws in Cleveland and Columbus, making the issue statewide. Even people who wish to "defend marriage" do not generally wish to deny health insurance, etc.

 

It could be a blessing in disguise for gay rights proponents, if enough people are appalled by such unwanted repercussions of the amendment.

 

Cleveland's law was challenged on similar grounds and that lawsuit was dismissed as lacking merit by the trial court.  The trial court's decision was upheld on appeal.  The lawsuit had been brought by a Cincy lawyer using a single Cleveland taxpayer to establish standing..... the taxpayer was given some silly name like "Clevleand Taxpayers for the Ohio Constitution" or something along those lines.

 

http://www.lambdalegal.org/news/oh_20101001_cleveland-domestic-partner

I just want to point out that COAST appears to be going completely batshit crazy recently, and they've taken the juvenile namecalling and usage of multiple pseudonyms to a new extreme in the last few days.  Their latest insults amount to flat-out calling people fat, yuppies, racist, anti-semitic, "whiny bitch", etc.  I have done searches for the various e-mail addresses they've used to leave comments on various websites, and have found fake Facebook profiles (one appears to have been deleted already), Twitter usernames, Citybeat logins, etc. They have always used fake personas mocking people who are in the public eye, like Chris Bortz, etc., but they now are impersonating people who simply live in the city and/or publicly support the streetcar, The Banks, or really anything downtown. It's insane that they can be engaging in this level of dishonest, uncivil, juvenile behavior and the media hasn't really taken notice.

This article is about Newt Gingrich, but I think a lot of it applies to COAST. (They are radicals, no?)

 

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/newt-gingrich-saul-alinsky-republican/338701

 

"The job of the organizer is to maneuver and bait the establishment so that it will publicly attack him as a 'dangerous enemy,'" Alinsky wrote in "Rules for Radicals." He went on to reveal that, "Today, my notoriety and the hysterical instant reaction of the establishment not only validate my credentials of competency but also ensure automatic popular invitation."

Look at COAST's blog -- nobody is commenting on their various anti-Jean Schmidt posts.  They are of course focussing their attention on getting Brad Wenstrup in Jean's seat, but nobody cares about Schmidt's scandal.  In fact the mere fact that COAST is trying to bring light to it makes me think it's not too big of a deal, without having looked into it. Meanwhile, nobody is posting on their streetcar posts either. 

 

This is just one indicator, but otherwise I think we have already seen the crest of the Tea Party "movement" and the effort to foment the base's hatred that started back in 2008 cannot be maintained going into this 2012 presidential election. 

^ Do you think that the tea partiers are going to forget about their beliefs and suddenly vote for Obama? The local tea party movement not only still exists but is quite well organized. They are getting their people precinct executive spots and other positions of influence in the GOP. The lack of comments on COAST's blog speaks more to that group's lack of credibility than a wane in the tea party movement.  As more tea party candidates get elected and more tea party members join the GOP establishment, mainstreaming is inevitable but I would not count out their influence at the polls this November. 

 

This is my theory (still a work in progress): The hatred was never really sustainable, but the core beliefs of the movement - basically libertarianism - will continue to keep tea party organizations meeting and united. On NPR the other day a commenter discussing libertarianism labelled it rationally consistent, because it calls for government to stay out of both the economy and people's personal lives.  Most "conservatives" are all for keeping the government out of the economy but want government to legislate the personal.  That same afternoon on NPR there was a discussion of a series of letters between George Romney and William F. Buckley about whether the republican party should be ideologically based or a coalition.  If the Republicans can keep a coalition going with the tea party as a new libertarian wing, perhaps the libertarians will help moderate the party on social issues and widen the tent.

 

On a related note, I'm not sure Obama is terribly excited by the prospect of running against Romney. Romney is arguably credible on economic issues and is perceived as socially moderate enough to have been governor of a blue state. All of that being said, I would still be surprised if Obama loses. What will be more interesting will be to see if tea party candidates continue to get elected to lower offices and how each major party does in the other elections.

 

Since this is the COAST thread, I will bring my rambling back to COAST. COAST has lost credibility with the city as a whole because it seems like the only time they pop up in the news is when they are opposing progress, suing the city (costing the city tremendous sums, city resident tea partiers couldn't have been pleased), or making offensive comments on twitter.  I guess their only two "endorsed" candidates both got seats on city council last year - so they have that goin for them...

If COAST was in charge of Cincinnati politics, they'd level the entire city and build one enormous Applebees. 

 

A pyramid shaped skyscraper of epic proportions that would be the lowmark of civilization for centuries to come.  Future societies would stumble upon our region and immediately face palm

 

Inside the Great Pyramid of Applebees, the streets would be paved with mozzarella cheese sticks.  Lightposts would be made out of loaded potato skins.  Currency would be in the form of french fries and every mile you drive, you encountered a toll booth in the image of Chris Finney opening up his left pocket wide enough for you to throw a couple fries in.

 

Streetcars and schools would be built for bathroom usage only.  700wlw would be constantly blaring at maximum volume and anyone caught not listening would be locked in a room and forced to listen to Chris Smitherman talk about himself for hours

 

Jake would be imprisoned.  LivingInGin would be Mark Miller's personal chauffeur.  KJP would be forced to run a COASTOhio Board and kick out anyone who is for the streetcar or rail.  Yours truly would be made to have a twitter handle of "CoastNeverLies".  And Cincycapell.  Poor Cincycapell...That is just too unimaginable for words.  Mallory and city council would have to compete in Petition Signing Gladiator Games

 

Law would be ruled by charter amendment but since none would pass by vote, there are no laws except one.  Line Chris Finney's pockets with Applebees fries

 

Just an awful society to imagine

COA T has their panties in  bunch over Fishwarp endorsements.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120302/EDIT01/303020052/Enquirer-Endorsements-Our-choices-in-three-key-primaries

Not 1 of 'em are endorsed by the unhinged cabal.

^^ And Nickelback will be the only music allowed in BOAST City.

Mark Miller's lies about the streetcar have caught the attention of the New York Times:

 

Was That Twitter Blast False, or Just Honest Hyperbole?

 

WASHINGTON — Mark W. Miller did not think Cincinnati should be spending money on a streetcar project, and he said so on Twitter. He urged his hundreds of followers to vote against the project, which was on the local ballot last November.

 

Here was a typical Twitter message: “15% of Cincinnati’s Fire Dept browned out today to help pay for a streetcar boondoggle. If you think it’s a waste of money, VOTE YES on 48.”

 

Mr. Miller, 46, a mechanical engineer, said he expected a debate. What he got instead was a legal action from supporters of the streetcar project under an Ohio law that forbids false statements in political campaigns.

 

Full article

Now see? That's how a pro works. It's the difference between a high end call girl & a junkie street walker in the media whore trade.

Gotta wonder how staunchly DeWhine would be opposed to this law, tho, if it was being used against some hard core liberal.

Yet another COAST failure...

 

 

From their Blog in 2009:

Stupidest City Council EVER

$3.5 million for radio-equipped wheeled recycling carts

-- majority supports while $28 million deficit swells --

 

 

And the Enquirer in 2010:

“Nobody dies by using little recycling bins instead of big ones,” it says, in part. ” Nobody dies if the trolley is delayed until the economy improves. But somebody is eventually going to die if city leaders keep cutting core services to fund more boondoggles. When that happens, the guilty will be held to account. Jeff Berding and Chris Bortz, we’ll be gunning for you. Cecil Thomas and Wendell Young, their blood will be on your hands. Roxanne Qualls and Mayor Mallory, how will you explain yourselves to the families of the fallen?”

 

 

Cincinnati keeps nearly 19,000 tons of waste out of landfill

Business Courier by Dan Monk

Tuesday, March 20, 2012

 

The city of Cincinnati’s expanded recycling program diverted a record 18,870 tons of waste from the Rumpke landfill in 2011, according to a report delivered to city council’s strategic growth committee Tuesday.

 

The program generated about $900,000 in transportation savings and boosted participation rates in recycling to 70 percent of eligible households.

 

“It was absolutely the right thing to do,” said Larry Falkin, director of the city’s office of environmental quality. “It was very hard for the city to purchase $3.6 million in rolling recycling carts, but we’re financing that purchase that over time and we’re making the payment plus more out of the savings from the program.”

 

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