March 30, 200916 yr Deustche Bank is coming down, correct? yes, deutsche bank on the southside is coming down. so is bmcc's fiterman hall on the northside. i didn't see any action on those sites that day and i have no idea when they will be torn down, but it will be big news when it happens. i'll keep an eye on it. as for the bank building i have read the slowup is due to money, lawsuits over the worker deaths there and also because of serious asbestos dust concerns. i dk exactly what the holdup reason is for fiterman, probably similar reasons. come to think of it i might have read about some consideration for refurbishing fiterman instead of knocking it all down and rebuilding from scratch, not sure about that.
April 6, 200916 yr i saw something on wired ny about fiterman: *The following information was last updated on March 6, 2009. * Decontamination and cleaning began in March 2008 and is expected to conclude in April 2009 * Debris and walls removal is complete; fine cleaning is being done as the final stage before deconstruction * Roof ballast has been bagged and will be examined by the OCME * The FDNY hoist is erected and the elevators inside the building have been removed * Deconstruction will take place from appx. March through fall 2009 * Design documents for construction of the new Fiterman Hall are being finalized. The bid for foundation construction will be issued in 2009.
April 6, 200916 yr Mrnyc, do you think a memorial/museum makes it easier to come to terms with what happend?
April 7, 200916 yr i dk david, personally i don't think anything like that will. but i'm open minded about it, i'll have to wait and see the final results to see what it does for me. i'll say this -- in general i think its all too much space. i wish they would have just made a tasteful and open memorial plaza or park instead of such a massive footprint/waterfall/park/memorial/museum, etc., but realistically there was zero chance of only that happening.
April 9, 200916 yr here's some bloggy something re deutsche bank deconstruction: Destructoporn: Deutsche Bank Building Fades to White Wednesday, April 8, 2009 And now, the moment the W Hotel & Residences has been waiting for. The Lower Manhattan Development Corporation has issued (via Twitter, 'natch) a progress report on the deconstruction of the former Deutsche Bank building at 130 Liberty Street just south of the World Trade Center, a long process marked by delays, scandal and the occasional tragedy. According to the LMDC's color-coded guide, the upper third of the building has been completely deconstructed. In January, contractor Bovis said the building would be dunzo by October 16th, but the LMDC now says the process it at least three weeks behind schedule. Left unanswered: the details of the next building at the site to get in the W's way. · FiDi's W Hotel Not Playing Nice With Its Neighbor [Curbed] · Deutsche Bank building coverage [Curbed] http://curbed.com/archives/2009/04/08/destructoporn_deutsche_bank_building_fades_to_white.php
May 11, 200916 yr More on the Deutsche Bank tower's deconstruction. Ground zero tower deconstruction delayed again An electrical fire has again delayed the Deutsche Bank tower's demolition by at least three months May 07, 2009 - 3:10 PM http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20090507/FREE/905079974/1044
May 11, 200916 yr Mega-update on the World Trade Center site reconstruction. Courtesy of the ArchNewsNow newsletter that I get via email and at www.archnewsnow.com. 1) Post-9/11 Realities Warp a Soaring Design: The unveiling of an elaborate new model of the revised design of ground zero’s transportation hub was heart wrenching...what once promised to be one of ground zero’s most triumphant architectural achievements is hollow at its core. By Nicolai Ouroussoff -- Santiago Calatrava [images]- New York Times 2) Calatrava calls transit hub a challenge: ...said that overcoming the physical challenges involved in designing the transit hub at the World Trade Center site has been the most difficult endeavor of his 28-year career...declined to comment on the stalemate between the Port and developer Larry Silverstein..."I am just a simple architect"...- Crain's New York Business 3) Port Authority wants to dump three of five proposed skyscrapers for WTC site: The incredible shrinking World Trade Center will be cut back from five iconic skyscrapers to just two signature towers...In place of two Silverstein behemoths, each designed by a British lord and soaring 79 stories, the PA would erect a pair of short, squat buildings no taller than four or five floors - coined "stumps"... -- Daniel Libeskind; Foster + Partners; Rogers Stirk Harbour- NY Daily News 4) Rising at Ground Zero, a symbol of resilience: Freedom Tower was going to signify America's determination to rebuild quickly and steeply...Fascinated, the city and nation waited. And waited. And lost patience. And interest...Its tortuous saga shows what can happen when too much is asked of a building...- USA Today
May 21, 200916 yr prepare to be sick to your stomach with this news......ugh! :| New Renderings of WTC Towers 2 & 3, Minus 138 Stories Thursday, May 21, 2009, by Joey [Renderings via NYPost] It's shaping up to be a World Trade Center type of morning. The Fulton Street Transit Center has a new completion date, the Port Authority's WTC website has been updated with fresh construction pictures of the 9/11 Memorial and Fumihiko Maki's Tower 4 skyscraper and—most juicy of all—Mayor Bloomberg is assembling all the warring parties for a ground zero summit at Gracie Mansion. About that! Developer Larry Silverstein wants help in financing his WTC Towers 2 and 3, designed by Brit starchitects Norman Foster and Richard Rogers, respectively. The Port Authority wants to build just the lower floors and turn them into retail, finishing the skyscrapers when the demand for Lower Manhattan office space increases, like maybe in 2022 or something. How serious is the Port Authority about the six-story stumps? They've been quietly showing officials renderings of the idea, and now those renderings have popped up in the Post. That's gonna be a lot of I♥NY shirts! If the stumps do get built, will this just be another 11 Madison exercise in failed potential? · New Glimpse of WTC Low-Rise Compromise [NYPost] · World Trade Center Redevelopment coverage [Curbed] predictable remarks here: http://curbed.com/archives/2009/05/21/new_renderings_of_wtc_towers_2_3_minus_138_stories.php
May 26, 200916 yr The terrorists won't stop us from rebuilding . . . but the Wall Street credit meltdown will. [sigh]
May 26, 200916 yr The terrorists won't stop us from rebuilding . . . but the Wall Street credit meltdown will. [sigh] Really? Yes, really.
July 5, 200915 yr Another WTC update from our friends at Curbed... Construction Pour(n): One WTC Plaza Takes Shape Further evidence that the Freedom Tower One World Trade Center tower will actually exist: this epic concrete pour, which, per Port Authority public relations executives, took 14 hours and used the equivalent of six miles worth of sidewalk concrete. This plaza, on the eastern side of One WTC, includes a fountain—see that large circle? Fountain!—and concrete boxes where Swamp White Oaks will one day grow. For the true concrete junkies amongst us, there's an epic two-minute time-lapse video of the pour. Pour, baby, pour! The pour, completed The plaza, rendered
November 23, 200915 yr some demo progress. at looonnngg last, fiterman hall has finally been fully demolished: Savulich/NewsConstruction site at Barclay St. & West Broadway where Fiterman Hall, heavily damaged on 9/11, once stood. Fiterman Hall, ruined on 9/11, gone at last; rebuilding project set to begin BY Frank Lombardi DAILY NEWS CITY HALL BUREAU Monday, November 23rd 2009, 4:00 AM Eight years after 9/11, there's a bit of good news at Ground Zero: Fiterman Hall has finally been reduced to a hole in the earth. Plans are set for a Dec. 1 groundbreaking to kick off a $325 million rebuilding project. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/real_estate/2009/11/23/2009-11-23_hall_ruined_on_911_gone_at_last.html?r=news&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nydnrss%2Fnews+%28News%29#ixzz0Xhr6IGFM
December 16, 200915 yr from the official annotated flickr construction page --- one wtc is now up to the fifth floor: 12/10/09 "The steel erection for One WTC is scheduled to reach the 47th floor level in the 3rd Quarter of 2010." 11/2/09 note: The Port Authority is accepting requests from cities, towns, museums, police, and fire departments and other non-profit appropriate organizations interested in acquiring an artifact for appropriate public display. more: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wtcprogress
December 23, 200915 yr This is Great. After countless delays and setbacks, all New Yorkers can agree that today marks a major accomplishment at Ground Zero. Earlier today, construction workers installed a Subway sandwich shop atop a crane that will rise alongside the Freedom Tower during construction. http://gothamist.com/2009/12/23/subway_sandwich_shop_takes_to_the_s.php#comments
December 25, 200915 yr These are some 4x5 view camera shots of the World Trade Center soon after completion, 1974-75. These were taken by my photography teacher, Baldwin Lee, who grew up in New York's Chinatown and whose father owned a noodle factory that was razed for construction of the complex. These photos were all taken on Sunday mornings in order to avoid photographing people and moving cars.
December 27, 200915 yr You can contact him at http://www.baldwinlee.com. I think he recently did editions of these for a show in 2008, but I have no idea if he has any prints left and I doubt he'd let go of them for under $1,000.
January 3, 201015 yr courtesy of wiredny, wow believe it of not this is fumihiko maki's tower four as of 12/30/09: http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9207&page=43 renders: http://www.wtc.com/media/images/s/wtc-renderings-tower-4-renderings and here is the status of one world trade: http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3672&page=479
January 15, 201015 yr The planned buildings look plainer and plainer everytime I look at them. At least the Twin Towers, though plain, made a statement as two giant twins above the city. The new ones really disappoint in my book.
February 22, 201015 yr 60 Minutes just ran a pretty scathing piece on the lack of progress at the World Trade Center site. The full 12 minute report can be viewed at http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6228927n&tag=contentMain;cbsCarousel
February 22, 201015 yr Thanks I'm watching it now. You know it's bad when the developed calls it a "national disgrace." I wish we could do something really special there. Even if it was just rebuilding very similar twin towers.
March 28, 201015 yr after all these years a deal was finally reached: Ground Zero rising: At long last there is agreement on a plan for the site Saturday, March 27th 2010, 4:00 AM Bitter as the pill is, grand plans for building four enormous skyscrapers at Ground Zero have gone rightly by the boards for now, victim of an economic downturn that wiped out demand for office space. For the moment, only two towers will rise and two others will be put on hold pending a return of companies willing to sign leases. Without leases, developer Larry Silverstein will have no income, and without income he will not be able to raise the billions of dollars needed for construction... As sketched, in addition to the 9/11 memorial and a transit center, the plans for Ground Zero now include 1 World Trade Center, the former Freedom Tower, under construction by the PA; one office building, under construction by Silverstein, half of which will be occupied by government agencies; a five-story retail shopping center that can later serve as the base of a major tower if the market picks up, and ground-level open space where the fourth tower may one day rise. It's not the dream that was envisioned, but it's a world better than a hole in the ground. Get it done. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/03/27/2010-03-27_ground_zero_rising.html#ixzz0jU9oByev
September 9, 201014 yr some news heading towards 9/11 again... this seems optimistic but ok good: World Trade Center Rebuilding May Finish by 2014, Officials Say By Henry Goldman - Sep 7, 2010 6:51 PM ET Four office towers, a transit center designed by Santiago Calatrava, a memorial and museum at the downtown Manhattan site of the World Trade Center may be complete by 2014, according to city and state officials. About 250,000 people a day will be working and visiting the complex, developer Larry Silverstein said today at a news briefing at 7 World Trade Center, a 52-story office building across a street from where the twin towers stood. Finished in 2006, it is the first of several planned for the site. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-07/trade-center-rebuilding-memorial-may-be-completed-by-2014-officials-say.html memorial news: Sep 7 WTC ‘Tridents’ are being installed inside 9/11 memorial museum (Updated x3) http://blog.national911memorial.org/?p=3387
September 11, 201014 yr a very cool time-lapse construction video via msn: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/39085208#39085208 heres a recent pic:
September 11, 201014 yr Why The Mainstream Media Gets the WTC Project Wrong By Steve Rosenbaum | 7:38 am, September 9th, 2010 Last February, I sat in my living room and watched 60 Minutes. The story they broadcast was certain to make any American angry. They said that almost 9 years after the attacks on the World Trade Center, the site was still an empty pit. They showed video of a massive, empty construction site. A huge gaping wound in lower Manhattan. With shocking images of an empty dirt hole, CBS Anchor Scott Pelley solemnly intoned: “8 and a half years later, we wondered… Why is Ground Zero Still a Hole in the Ground?” There was only one problem with the story. It wasn’t true. I’d been at the site just days before. And shot these pictures, of foundations being poured, of artifacts being prepared for the museum, of massive memorial waterfalls being tested at the Brooklyn Navy Yard. What I knew for a fact was the project that New Yorkers cared about, the 9/11 Memorial, was very much on target to open at the milestone 10th anniversary of 9/11/11. So why did CBS get it wrong? And why does so much of the media continue to get it wrong? First of all, the site isn’t a single project. It’s a massively complex series of projects – all sharing the same 16 acres of earth and sky. There’s the Memorial Plaza, and two massive memorial pools. Designed by Architect Michael Arad, the footprints of the towers have declared the space above where the towers once stood as sacred sky. There’s the Museum – a huge undertaking of curatorial complexity and underground cavernous spaces. It may be the first underground museum in the world – and in sheer volume, it is both daunting and awe-inspriing. Then there is the Transit hub – a dazzling piece of architecture by Santiago Calatrava. And that leaves the towers – 1 WTC, formerly the Freedom Tower, now rising in the northwest corner of the site, and the Silverstein office buildings known as WTC 2, 3 and 4 – with just 4 now under construction. Full article: http://www.mediaite.com/online/why-the-mainstream-media-gets-the-wtc-project-wrong/
September 11, 201014 yr More about the 9/11 Memorial from New York Magazine. Includes an 86 image slideshow of the progress on the World Trade Center site, the planning behind the memorial to be opened on 9/11/11, and the artifacts being stored off-site for the National September 11th Memorial and Museum: Inside the Future 9/11 Reliquary: A year before the memorial opens, the remains of that day wait patiently to be returned to ground zero from a hangar at JFK
September 26, 201014 yr 1 wtc from yesterday afternoon via my iphone: ^ if yr wondering how far they have gotten heightwise -- they'll be working on floors 40-45 or so thru october rebuilding bmcc's fiterman hall -- this is on on the northside of the wtc site (next to the already rebuilt wtc7)
October 18, 201014 yr yesterday was the first day i realized you could actually start to see the new 1wtc from my place, so i walked down there in the late afternoon and took a walk around the wtc site: from the hudson riverside park below w14th st from tribeca you can run the table of downtown scrapers in this view at bpc its almost as tall as its neighbor now -- and the cranes are even taller this is the westside of the tower this is the ne corner eastside more eastside just north of the wtc site, next to wtc7, is bmcc's fiterman hall rebuild a peek thru the fencing looking south across the wtc site at maki's wtc4 wtc4 going up in the se corner of the wtc site -- across from C21 se corner southside view of 1wtc and wtc4 looking just south of the wtc site -- whats left of the old deutsche bank tower 10 floors maybe? southside of the deutsche bank building -- odd to see sunlight here above it great alley view that caught my eye new stuff -- world center hotel next to deutsche bank building site is open the new w hotel is across the street/south from deutsche bank then just south below the w hotel something else is set to up, this is albany/washington streets i dk what it is, but there is a big lot, construction sheds and stuff onsite this is looking north over liberty community garden in front of the brooklyn-battery tunnel entrance lots of really nice old buildings over here lastly, not related to the wtc, but new, noteworthy & very nearby is the goldman sachs office tower in bpc corporate art this strange and awkward walkway canopy has no regard to the building next to it i'm not a fan of this fat/bland/dallas-ish corporate tool office building, some are, but anyway there it is oh i saw this on a bpc residential tower, might be developer hype or true, i have no idea how that was determined *** so there you are, definate visible progress now -- thats whats up all around the wtc site this fall ***
October 31, 201014 yr great new wtc vs old wtc side-by-side renders on this ssp thread (pg 56): http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=130301&page=56
November 8, 201014 yr these are from this morning. i asked some workers and they said it was at the 46th floor as of today. also, a significant milestone has been reached, or very close to it -- deutsche bank is at long (and troubled) last finally gone. looks to be nothing but scaffolding according to this great ssp pic -- i believe it to be taken from a room at the new w hotel which is just south of the wtc site. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=5046554&posted=1#post5046554
November 15, 201014 yr a remarkable milestone...presenting the first cladding/windows! :clap: if you are a cladding fan there is much more over on ssp and elsewhere... :laugh:
January 23, 201114 yr a 1/16/11 update from wiredny: "So now top of steel is about 4 feet above the 56th floor (666' 8"). Six more floors and it will be taller than #7. (It will also pass 3 WFC in the same week.) "
June 2, 201114 yr as of june 1st the building is at the 68th floor, the height is 830ft (1050ft w/cranes). its above wtc7 and a dominating sight when you look downtown from the westside below 23rd st.
September 6, 201113 yr Less than a week until the 10th anniversary of September 11, 2001. The Discovery Channel has been airing an in-depth series looking at the reconstruction of Ground Zero, One World Trade Center (aka Freedom Tower) and the 9-11 Memorial. Here is the link to the Discovery Channel website: Rising: Rebuilding Ground Zero
September 9, 201113 yr NOVA on PBS had a hour-long look at the designing and building of One World Trade Center and the National 9/11 Memorial and Museum earlier this week. PBS posted their full broadcast to their website. Below is a link to it. NOVA - Engineering Ground Zero
October 2, 201113 yr a milestone marker - the wtc just passed the boa atlanta building and is now the 9th largest building in the usa. also, dont forget you can now visit the memorial, but i think you have to reserve far in advance of your trip.
October 3, 201113 yr ^I tried getting a ticket to the memorial but when I clicked on the next future date of availability (which I think was in December--and this I tried two weeks ago) the system wouldn't allow me to book the day :x Also, I don't know how many people they allow in, but one recent Saturday I strolled around the WFC and looked out the windows only to see hardly anyone around the memorial site. I was told that there are some tickets available for any particular day that go unused if you show up early enough. One thing though, since the 10th anniversary, there seems to be a large influx of visitors downtown on weekends. The streets seems almost as busy as on a weekday; maybe they were all the protesters befouling Zuccotti Park. http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
October 3, 201113 yr a milestone marker - the wtc just passed the boa atlanta building and is now the 9th largest building in the usa. also, dont forget you can now visit the memorial, but i think you have to reserve far in advance of your trip. Yawn, Let us know when it breaks the top 5!! Just kidding. I visited the site Labor Day weekend. I wasn't impressed in the earlier 2000s at the first design for the new WTC, or even the design they're building now. I had the stance that they should build back what was lost, just a little better and more modern. I have to say that even though it's not complete I was impressed with how the building looked up close and amongst the NYC skyline. It'll no doubt be a nice addition.
October 7, 201113 yr ^i feel the same. its all in the cladding, which is just top notch. the glass...anyway thats what grabs you. i didnt expect such quality materials after disappointment of the rather blah design of the building itself. cant wait to see how the calatrava transit center turns out because that may still hold some surprises.
November 2, 201113 yr some news -- just cracked the 1000' barrier! floors 87, 88 going up now and its 1097' tall at the column splices per ssp and wired. the rate is about a floor a week.
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