January 9, 201213 yr Awesome. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 9, 201213 yr Are they moving forward with full build-out for WTC 2 & 3 or are they still going to be stub buildings? “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
January 9, 201213 yr Are they moving forward with full build-out for WTC 2 & 3 or are they still going to be stub buildings? good question. that depends. the insurance $ allows for buildout of the foundation and five story stubs for now. the panynj kicks in more $ once the developer silverstein signs tenants. wtc2 aka the foster, now has a major tenant, conde nast, so that one will be a full go soon. wtc3 aka the rodgers, does not have any major tenants as yet far as i know. the timeline was 2015 but it does not seem like wtc3 will meet that, still 3 out 4 aint bad all things considered and i think we can all live with one stubby for awhile (although personally i like wtc3 best so i hope it gets built asap).
January 31, 201213 yr somebody figured out 1wtc is the most expensive office tower: At $3.8 Billion, 1 World Trade Center Is The Most Expensive Building In The World As One World Trade Center has passed the 90th floor of its construction, it's reached another milestone: It's now costing more than $3.8 billion. The Wall Street Journal reports that it's the "world's most expensive new office tower, according to people familiar with the matter. The new figure [is] up $700 million from the latest public estimate." http://gothamist.com/2012/01/30/one_world_trade_center_now_the_most.php
February 8, 201213 yr now even worse than expected! OOPS!!! – WTC NOW $4 BILLION OVERBUDGET 10 comments Posted on 7th February 2012 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues $4 billion, over budget, Port Authority, WTC Remember how outrageous the $700 million overrun on the new WTC seemed last week. Well that estimate was just a smidgen off. The new WTC is $4 billion overbudget. Can this country do anything well? Can we ever do anything on budget? Can we do anything on-time? Ask Boeing. Ask the Port Authority of NJ. This entire project is a national disgrace. The only thing this country is good at is threatening other countries and killing people. Port Authority audit reveals nearly $4B cost overrun for World Trade Center Published: Tuesday, February 07, 2012, 6:24 PM NEW YORK — The agency building the new World Trade Center has let costs get out of control, with the estimated price tag soaring nearly $4 billion over the last four years, auditors said today. Navigant Consulting said the project is now expected to cost $14.8 billion, 35 percent more than the last estimate, of $11 billion, in 2008. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie ordered the review of the World Trade Center site’s owner, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, after the agency’s board voted to raise bridge and tunnel tolls in August. The auditors said the Port Authority, which runs area transit hubs including Kennedy and LaGuardia airports, is “a challenged and dysfunctional organization suffering from a lack of consistent leadership, a siloed underlying bureaucracy, poorly coordinated capital planning processes, insufficient cost controls and a lack of transparent and effective oversight of the World Trade Center program that has obscured full awareness of billions of dollars in exposure to the Port Authority.” The Port Authority has lost millions of dollars in revenue because of lower traffic at the ports, airports and river crossings it operates, and the World Trade Center has suffered a number of setbacks since rebuilding began after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks destroyed its Twin Towers. The company that is laying steel for the main tower has run into financial problems. A mistake in the design means the Port Authority will have to spend millions of dollars on temporary loading docks for the building. And the builders of the Sept. 11 museum are fighting with the agency over construction costs. The Port Authority’s new director, Patrick Foye, said today the agency was taking the auditing firm’s recommendations seriously and would begin an overhaul of its structure. http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=29069
March 3, 201213 yr ^^hey kids, want to spend the day at the September 11th museum. What an asinine idea.
March 8, 201213 yr ^ i couldn't agree more. plus seems like it would bore the kids senseless. but people continue to mob the place. i took this iphone pic from in front of chelsea piers yesterday afternoon around sunset:
March 27, 201213 yr Savor this thinking by the late Jean Baudrillard: Some examples Baudrillard brings up of the simulacrum of the model are: 1) the development of nuclear weapons as deterrents—useful only in the hyperreal sense, a reference with no real referent, since they are always meant to be reproducible but are never intended to be used—2) the (former) Twin Towers of the World Trade Center, which replaced a New York of constantly competing, distinct heights with a singular model of the ultimate New York building: already doubled, already reproduced, itself a reproduction, a singular model for all conceivable development, and 3) a menage-a-trois with identical twins where the fantasy comprises having perfection reproduced in front of your eyes, though the reality behind this reproduction is nil and impossible to comprehend otherwise, since the twins are still just people. The very act of perceiving these, Baudrillard insists, is in the tactile sense, since we already assume the reproducibility of everything, since it is not the reality of these simulations that we imagine (in fact, we no longer "imagine" in the same sense as before; both the imagined and the real are equally hyperreal, equally both reproducible and already reproductions themselves), but the reproducibility thereof. We do not imagine them reproduced for us, since the original image is itself a reproduction—rather, we perceive the model, the simulation.
March 27, 201213 yr Baudrillard seems to be commenting on the sense of reproduction through equals, i.e. nuclear powers cancelling each other out, twin towers that represent the implied beginning of a "perfect" skyline and twins which can be perceived as unreal cloning of sorts. The old World Trade Center represented the pinnacle of the super block and of modernism architecture itself. Itself represented as a "self-replication," or twins waiting for phase 3 and phase 4 etc. If the Le Corbusier model had been followed to it's logical conclusion, cities would be nothing but monolithic blocks of separated uses. “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
March 27, 201213 yr a construction related milestone today - the major wiring is done and they turned the power on. the temporary construction rigging power wiring will be taken down. now they can start to test elevators, etc.
April 3, 201213 yr another milestone yesterday. 1wtc reached 100 stories. its now just a hair shorter than the esb.
April 30, 201213 yr Breaking News @BreakingNews One World Trade Center becomes the tallest building in NYC, now over 1,250 feet tall https://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews
April 30, 201213 yr yep suppposedly todays the day 1wtc has become the tallest bldg in town: http://m.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/scrappy_scraper_an_empire_buster_Zt6wge8P65Gx0IaOMdb3hP
April 30, 201213 yr Live video: Press event about World Trade Center surpassing Empire State as tallest NYC skyscraper http://on.msnbc.com/Ij9wnE
April 30, 201213 yr fresh views - i just walked by after work. presenting the new big guy: news crews around
May 1, 201213 yr Great news about the 1wtc tower musky and great photo update mrnyc. Question about those last two photos in your update mrnyc. Is that the 4wtc tower?
May 25, 201213 yr finally -- a first look at the base of 1wtc: 1 World Trade Center offers warm welcome By STEVE CUOZZO Last Updated: 4:35 AM, May 25, 2012 Posted: 11:52 PM, May 24, 2012 This is the first rendering of how the base of 1 World Trade Center will look up close — a shimmering, richly textured facade on four sides of glass, stainless steel and aluminum. While bickering goes on over the iconic office tower’s crown, its street-level face is just as vital — not only to Condé Nast employees who will move in by 2015, but to the millions of visitors to the 16-acre WTC site. The “podium” design by Skidmore Owings & Merrill is the end product of a tortured history that included the dumping of an earlier scheme over costs and fears its custom-fabricated glass would too easily shatter. more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/world_trade_center_offers_warm_welcome_98qnSJ2LCfZ3KTpBFJpTSJ
June 9, 201213 yr i took a walk around the wtc site yesterday after work: from bpc from vesey st & the hudson river park
June 24, 201212 yr I miss how the WTC towers were so useful for wayfinding. The way they were staggered gave you a better sense of distance and direction than this single tower.
June 25, 201212 yr i know, they were really a beacon for pointing yourself downtown that the new wtc is not. big, big wtc site news today -- wtc4 topping out ceremony is this morning!!
June 25, 201212 yr Also, despite being the work of a Japanese architect, the WTC towers felt solidly "American". Meanwhile, this new tower was designed by an American firm but looks Asian.
June 26, 201212 yr Irish Hunger Memorial Fulton St St Paul’s Chapel Zuccotti Park Trinity Church http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
July 5, 201212 yr ive got a few more recent angles that ive been slacking on putting up here this view is from njtransit near secaucus this is from williamsburg, brooklyn n6th st at the east river this is at east broadway and i think rutgers st which is chinatown
July 5, 201212 yr ^that view from East Broadway is interesting, but it's too bad it's partly concealed by the courthouse. I remember how spectacular the twin towers looked from that angle, which were a bit to the left. But since I'm complaining :x, I might as well add that the view from Zuccotti Park is even more disappointing, with 4 WTC (a huge skyscraper itself) blocking 1 WTC. Again, there used to be a sweeping, dramatic view of the original towers from that location all the way from Broadway. http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
July 10, 201212 yr Mercer & Houston Sts Greene St W Broadway & Broome Church & Lispenard Sts http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
July 14, 201212 yr hate to bust your bubble evd but all city views of this building will be blocked, except perhaps for straight down the westside hwy and hudson river park piers. even more so if and when the wtc site is fully built out. its nothing new, you could tell all along, even going back to the original finialized site plans. i had even pointed that out to you earlier back in this thread. but yeah, the new wtc site is definately no twin towers replacement. but then again the twins were no singer or tribune towers either.
July 17, 201212 yr I haven't been up there in a year, so I haven't seen the tower since it was about 30 stories high, but from these vantage points it looks like the complex will come across merely as "more buildings" and not something that had its own mood like the WTC towers.
July 20, 201212 yr yes, with the exception of the westside hwy where you will be able to see the most of this tower. i've shown the views from north along hudson river waterfront park and the wsh before and that is where people can most easy see it. however, you also get a great view from the southside, but that takes a trip on the staten island ferry to see, which conveniantly i happened to do just the other day! SI 9/11 memorial from the stapleton sir train platform later, on the way back here you can see almost the whole enchilada
August 3, 201212 yr almost forgot to mention its topped out. they are working on the 105th floor, the parapet and the cladding. not sure whats up with the antenna/mast/whatev it will be. more: http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20120625/REAL_ESTATE/120629945&template=smartphone
August 13, 201212 yr ^ i just noticed, but if u look close at the top u can see how the cranes have spun around all morning - i saw them lifting girders and stuff so they are hard at work up there today - i didn't notice any facade work tho, just parapet
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