September 11, 200618 yr All I can say is whenever theres a Bengals game...it significantly effects the sales and traffic at our store, negatively. What store would that be?!? Old Navy in Rookwood. Customers were coming in yesterday buying a lot of orange though :]
September 11, 200618 yr My dad was 2 years old the last time we were in a Championship Game. I'd take a few lost super bowls over 46 years of nothin!
September 11, 200618 yr Another Forbes poll that I pulled out of the Washington Post: Team Value of NFL franchises as of '06: 1. Washington $1.423 bil. 7. Cleveland $970 mil. 9. Baltimore $946 mil. (So much for Baltimore being a better market) 18. Pittsburgh $880 mil. 21. Detroit $839 mil. 22. Indianapolis $837 mil. 23. Cincinnati $825 mil. 32. Minnesota $720 mil. Mind you Cleveland hasn't won shit in 46 years and is #7 in team worth. I don't know if it's loyalty or lunacy....but I understand now why the NFL was hell bent on getting a team back in Cleveland. This idea, that even floats on these boards, that somehow the Cleveland-Akron metro is 'poor' sure dosen't translate on this poll. Especially with the Gund selling out almost every night for the LeBron led Cavs as well. People spend money in Cleveland. :)
September 11, 200618 yr ..and yet we rely on city and county governments to subsidize our teams facilities.
September 11, 200618 yr ^ Personally, I was dumbfounded that Modell would move with the fan base he had in Cleveland. Like I said before they are more loyal, but I am not sure about the misery index. Well, I'm 25 and I'm not a big football fan, but it seems like the Bengals team from last year and this year is way better than the Browns have ever been during my lifetime. Someone go do the 05 Bengals vs the 86 Browns on Madden. I'd say the Browns pull it out.
September 11, 200618 yr ^ Personally, I was dumbfounded that Modell would move with the fan base he had in Cleveland. Like I said before they are more loyal, but I am not sure about the misery index. Well, I'm 25 and I'm not a big football fan, but it seems like the Bengals team from last year and this year is way better than the Browns have ever been during my lifetime. Someone go do the 05 Bengals vs the 86 Browns on Madden. I'd say the Browns pull it out. Bernie Bernie,oh-oh, how you can throw!
September 11, 200618 yr oh riverviewer! :roll: whatever i am smoking is not sprinkled with the powder yours is. :laugh: well it took you three replies (?) but still you could not untangle yourself out of the 'bengals have been in the superbowl and the browns have not' conundrum. that is far more success than the browns have ever gotten close to (dont give me that old championship stuff, it was pre-superbowl and to be fair you can only go back thru the years the bengals existed). any browns fan would trade mega more losing seasons for a sb appearance. say it slowly in robot: no sue-pear-bow-l. for-tee-pluh-s yr-z. muh-or ph-you-tol th-an u. err, not to mention during the middle of the bengals years you listed the browns were taken away and also won a superbowl in balto while clev had no football for years -- i'd say that easily destroys any other teams losing season by far. yet still under crack influence you somehow think the browns playoff games mean success? more like infamy. the interception, the drive, the fumble, & most recently the collapse? ha! browns futility is so strong it has ready-to-wear catchphrases. again, comparibly the bengals would always have those penultimate superbowl memories -- and in the plural to boot. which brings us to this season. did you happen to catch both opening games? fox sport's 6-10 prediction looks like a stretch. oh wait i forgot something. clevo does have one title. it's espn's most cursed sports city (not cinci) and six of the top ten reasons for winning that futility title are due to the browns. :| baaah!
September 12, 200618 yr MrNYC, you're saying that Bengals fans are happily sated because they lost two superbowls. That's what you've got for me. Wow. Well, I think this is officially fruitless...how about we just agree on hoping the Browns and Bengals both become the great teams their fans deserve!
September 12, 200618 yr Bah, give Cleveland their just due on this one, after all the Bengals are on top where it counts - WINS.
September 12, 200618 yr What a boring argument. I think the point RiverViewer's been trying to make is that for those 14 years, the Bengals were pretty much eliminated before the first snap of the season. They had no chance. None.
September 14, 200618 yr ^must not be be that boring or you'd have left it alone. :wink: MrNYC, you're saying that Bengals fans are happily sated because they lost two superbowls. That's what you've got for me. Wow. Well, I think this is officially fruitless...how about we just agree on hoping the Browns and Bengals both become the great teams their fans deserve! not at all. how could a browns fan fathom what bengals fans think as they stand head and shoulders above browns fan experiences, we can't relate. what i'm saying is the browns fans would be happily sated to have been "in" two superbowls.
September 19, 200618 yr Browns loyalty is typically pretty high in the Firelands area............and now that Charlie Frye is the quarterback (he hails from Willard).........Huron County has become die-hard for the Dawgs :) LOL
September 25, 200618 yr MrNYC, you're saying that Bengals fans are happily sated because they lost two superbowls. That's what you've got for me. Wow. Well, I think this is officially fruitless...how about we just agree on hoping the Browns and Bengals both become the great teams their fans deserve! no, i never said that -- i said any browns fan would be! also, that a list of some meaningless string of some sad bengals years is nothing to a browns fan considering they didnt have a team in the middle of that. but my wasn't this a classic week for that discussion? yes indeed. why just compare the bengals-steelers game to the browns-ravens and i rest my case. a classic comeback loss, potential o'fer this season. meanwhile, the 3-0 'gals are looking very fit for the superbowl, knock on wood.
September 26, 200618 yr The CLOWNS suck ass! ... I'm just joking around, you know, trying to lighten things up! ;) ... but they do. They should of won that game yesterday! We need someone to take care of Baltimore!
September 26, 200618 yr Jesus, dude, how many frickin' times can you reply to my same two-week-old post? Christ, move on already.
September 26, 200618 yr ^ oh yeah sure sure. easy for you to say now that you're a bengals fan. look at them. the browns steenk! :|
September 26, 200618 yr Still, that game against the Ravens was fun. The bar is so low right now that a heartbreaking loss to the Ravens is still fun. Now if OSU and ND (yeah, its possible to be a big fan of both) were doing poorly, then the Browns loses would bother me more than they do.
September 26, 200618 yr I was there and that one still hurts. The only consolation is that we played better than the Ravens...the score just didn't indicate it. To those who didn't watch the game, that may sound like sour grapes, but we dominated all but the last 3 1/2 minutes of that game. It was good so see Winslow and Edwards wreaking havoc on the "best defense in the league" too.
September 26, 200618 yr ah yeah ok i'm with you wimwar on the osu number one ranking. sure that's cool. and i'd quickly add the bengals doing so well is great to see too. true those do take a lot of sting out of yet another weak browns season. this loss to the ravens in the last minutes is a snapshot classic in support the general futility of the browns fortunes since '64 tho imo.
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