October 6, 201014 yr ^the hip people weren't staying there, or they'd know where to look - i.e. they are dumb tourists or B&T crowd. The club/lounge at the hotel is jam packed with hipsters who are in the know, every night.
October 6, 201014 yr I used to stay in that hotel all the time when I was working on a project in NY. The rooms are so small it defies logic. You actually have to step over the toilet to get in the shower. at any rate... back to east 4th ;)
October 6, 201014 yr ^the hip people weren't staying there, or they'd know where to look - i.e. they are dumb tourists or B&T crowd. The club/lounge at the hotel is jam packed with hipsters who are in the know, every night. So are we only trying to draw hip people to E. 4th and Chinato in particular?
October 6, 201014 yr I think that E 4th has a good mix of places that cater to different age groups, culinary experiences, and times of the day and evening. If there is such a variety of places, why expect then for there to be uniformity when it comes to the size, type, or even existence of signage? If the place works, then keep it well maintained, bring in businesses that compliment (not conform to) what exists, and let the independent businesses worry about how they put out the welcome mat.
October 6, 201014 yr Sure Chinato may be doing well but I think a decent sign, that would be seen for some distance (like the other signs on the street), will bring still more customers. One nice thing about the street is the wide variety in restaurants (various sizes, cultures, and price ranges ) yet everyone, except one, cooperating - so to speak - in investing something to show they are part of this uniqute Cleveland district. All signs are unique but creative and reflect each's individual restaurant style.
October 6, 201014 yr Maybe they will improve their signage when they are concerned with attracting walk-ins.
October 6, 201014 yr I know there were plans for signage and some "historic obstacles", though I don't know where it is currently at.
October 6, 201014 yr I was reading one of the recent Cleveland magazine issues and it mentions the Bodies exhibit, saying it will be open until 1/2 (I'm assuming Jan 2nd). The Bodies website and all previous info says Oct 31st. Was there an unannounced extension, or is it a CM typo?
October 17, 201014 yr I can say quite definitively that ROOM SERVICE has zero intentions of either CLOSING or MOVING locations at this time. RS LOVES GORDON SQUARE ARTS DISTRICT and has worked very passionately in promoting it. "West 25th is luring some retailers away from other up-and-coming Cleveland neighborhoods. Since opening on Detroit Avenue in late 2007, Room Service has become known for eclectic products and DeBoe's ever-growing "Made in the 216" sales of local merchandise. As the store outgrew its 650 square feet, DeBoe could not find the perfect space nearby. Room Service closed this month and will reopen in Ohio City by late November, in 2,000 square feet that last housed an Amish furniture store." http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/10/retail_tenants_join_market_dis.html
October 17, 201014 yr so if room service is moving to W25th, then what is going into the space on e4th?
October 17, 201014 yr I thought it was a flooring store that the Amish had there. It was when I was there.
October 18, 201014 yr Never mind what the Amish-related business was (I passed it Sat. and couldn't tell). Let's get on with it: What the Deuce is going on with the last vacant space on E. 4th? No sign of anything new whatsoever when one peers in there. Kind of a mess. :wink:
October 18, 201014 yr ...Let's get on with it: What the Deuce is going on with the last vacant space on E. 4th?... Won't we have 2 vacancies once the Bodies Exhibit leaves? Or maybe the Dredgers Union (or whatever that name was) is going in there.
October 18, 201014 yr so if room service is moving to W25th, then what is going into the space on e4th? I'm still sticking with my story that I said back in August: that Danielle (the owner of Room Service) is opening a retail store in that location on East 4th -- in addition to the one she's moving to West 25th.
October 22, 201014 yr By the way, construction on the Bike Station at the end of 4th should begin on Monday...
October 22, 201014 yr so if room service is moving to W25th, then what is going into the space on e4th? I'm still sticking with my story that I said back in August: that Danielle (the owner of Room Service) is opening a retail store in that location on East 4th -- in addition to the one she's moving to West 25th. Well, they would be opening a second location then, so I wouldn't say your original statement was accurate. I have sources close to the situation that tell me Room Service (www.roomservicecleveland.com) is moving from Gordon Square to this new space on East 4th Street. Note that they're MOVING, not adding a second location.
October 23, 201014 yr There may be something to the fact that both locations we've speculated about their moving to are MRN projects. Maybe they were going for East 4th, but in the end decided that W. 25th works better for them.
November 1, 201014 yr Are you sure the W. 25 building is part of the MRN project? I know they have the highrise bank building, along with some parcels in Lorain (such as the bldg. that long houses the Greek store) but I'm not certain about south of the bank bldg. on W. 25th. People at Salty Not Sweet said Sat. yes - they're moving to We. 25th by the end of 2010 or so.
November 1, 201014 yr As I have said before, RS, and any potential other ventures that ownership may be getting involved in are separate entities.
November 1, 201014 yr Anything in store for the soon to be vacant Bodies exhibit? Some functional retail would be nice and needed.
November 1, 201014 yr Anything in store for the soon to be vacant Bodies exhibit? Some functional retail would be nice and needed. Well it takes up several storefronts so It could possibly be broken down to several different spaces.
November 11, 201014 yr Heres your damn sign for Chinato Lafont! At Landmarks: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/photo/111110/index.php
November 11, 201014 yr Heres your damn sign for Chinato Lafont! At Landmarks: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/photo/111110/index.php Good! I really think that will help with additional business. And the sign works well with the Flannerys sign
November 11, 201014 yr Hate to revisit this, but, is there a better place for the fire sculptures? They seem distracting now from a very handsome southern entrance to E 4th
November 11, 201014 yr Hate to revisit this, but, is there a better place for the fire sculptures. They seem distracting now from a very handsome southern entrance to E 4th It bears revisiting often. Those things are spine-tinglingly hideous. A better place would be at the bottom of lake Erie.
November 11, 201014 yr Hate to revisit this, but, is there a better place for the fire sculptures. They seem distracting now from a very handsome southern entrance to E 4th A landfill no doubt.
November 11, 201014 yr Heres your damn sign for Chinato Lafont! At Landmarks: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/photo/111110/index.php This is some improvement. The windows were a waste and almost as bad as the 668 thing.
November 11, 201014 yr Comment on the Residences at 668 moved to... http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,14701.msg239221.html#msg239221 ...located in completed projects. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 25, 201014 yr We have an empty storefront... Teresa's pizza is now closed. What?????????????????
December 7, 201014 yr Woman in new Room Service on W. 25th Sat. told me, when I mentioned some had said they were moving to E. 4th instead, that a different style venue is still planned for the E. 4th space. Didn't want to divulge any details, though. Said something like "You'll find out."
December 7, 201014 yr Not big news but it appears that East 4th updated their website. http://www.east4thstreet.com
December 15, 201014 yr Has anyone else heard that one of the current e.4th businesses will be moving to the vacant space in the middle of the street?
December 15, 201014 yr Has anyone else heard that one of the current e.4th businesses will be moving to the vacant space in the middle of the street? I cant imagine who. Hey whats in the La Strada building? It lacks window and I was just wondering whats up there
December 16, 201014 yr Has anyone else heard that one of the current e.4th businesses will be moving to the vacant space in the middle of the street? I cant imagine who. Hey whats in the La Strada building? It lacks window and I was just wondering whats up there If what I heard was correct one of our prestigious chefs needs more space.
December 16, 201014 yr Has anyone else heard that one of the current e.4th businesses will be moving to the vacant space in the middle of the street? I cant imagine who. Hey whats in the La Strada building? It lacks window and I was just wondering whats up there If what I heard was correct one of our prestigious chefs needs more space. interesting
December 23, 201014 yr E. 4th needs a lot of wig shops. Also pawnbrokers, schlock jewelry and schlock, cheap duds. Ah, nostalgia.... Bring me the good ol' days of downtown. :wink:
December 23, 201014 yr I wish this street had more diversity. Its really just becoming a large outdoor food court.
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