March 27, 201411 yr ^^I talked to the bartender at Tremont Tap House who will be running the brewing operations just a couple weeks ago and it sounded like they were still a couple months away at that point.
March 28, 201411 yr Besides for dredgers union, are all the original restaurants on E 4th still open? I believe so, some of the hours have changed though. Pickwick & Frolic used to do lunch, but no longer does. Not sure if there have been any other changes. That is kind of incredible, in a great way
May 30, 201411 yr Nice shits Paul! Half of me wants to believe you meant "shots", half of me doesn't :-D :-D :-D
May 30, 201411 yr I wish I knew what they plan with the awesome space they have downstairs. Unfortunately I don't. But if anyone else does that would be great to hear.
May 30, 201411 yr I wish I knew what they plan with the awesome space they have downstairs. Unfortunately I don't. But if anyone else does that would be great to hear. From what I can recall, there's some ADA concerns about fully opening it up to the public.
May 30, 201411 yr The Butcher & Brewer is looking great, but I really do miss having a local clothing store there. I think at this point, Cleveland could support a few trendy clothes stores downtown.
May 30, 201411 yr The Butcher & Brewer is looking great, but I really do miss having a local clothing store there. I think at this point, Cleveland could support a few trendy clothes stores downtown. Do you mean CLE Clothing? They're still on E. 4th.
May 30, 201411 yr ^ No, I mean Dredger's Union which used to be in the building that Butcher & Brewer is building in. It was different from CLE Clothing in the sense that it sold trendy high-end clothes.
May 30, 201411 yr ^I think he's referring to the short-lived Dredgers Union that occupied (I think) the same space where B&B is going. Ooops, I was too slow. Here's info about Dredgers Unio for any recent arrivals to CLE: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/08/dredgers_union_store_closing_o.html
May 30, 201411 yr ^ No, I mean Dredger's Union which used to be in the building that Butcher & Brewer is building in. It was different from CLE Clothing in the sense that it sold trendy high-end clothes. Ah. I never even knew that place was there.
July 24, 201410 yr BBQ!! Michael Symon Unveils New Restaurant Concept for Cleveland's E. Fourth Street Posted By Douglas Trattner on Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:00 PM Despite assumptions to the contrary, Michael Symon’s new restaurant on East Fourth Street, in the space formerly occupied by La Strada, will not be another B Spot. Instead, it will be a barbecue joint. “We had no limitations with what we could do with the space,” says Symon. “But at the end of the day, we just wanted to do something different — different for us, different for the city.” Symon has long lamented the absence of great barbecue in his hometown. And those that do prepare barbecue, he points out, do so in a style ripped from other regions. He intends to change that when Mabel’s BBQ opens sometime this fall, when he introduces the nation to “Cleveland-style barbecue.” READ MORE AT: http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/07/24/michael-symon-to-unveil-new-restaurant-concept-for-clevelands-e-fourth-street "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 24, 201410 yr BBQ!! Michael Symon Unveils New Restaurant Concept for Cleveland's E. Fourth Street Posted By Douglas Trattner on Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:00 PM Despite assumptions to the contrary, Michael Symon’s new restaurant on East Fourth Street, in the space formerly occupied by La Strada, will not be another B Spot. Instead, it will be a barbecue joint. “We had no limitations with what we could do with the space,” says Symon. “But at the end of the day, we just wanted to do something different — different for us, different for the city.” Symon has long lamented the absence of great barbecue in his hometown. And those that do prepare barbecue, he points out, do so in a style ripped from other regions. He intends to change that when Mabel’s BBQ opens sometime this fall, when he introduces the nation to “Cleveland-style barbecue.” READ MORE AT: http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/07/24/michael-symon-to-unveil-new-restaurant-concept-for-clevelands-e-fourth-street *Cleveland-style BBQ!!
July 24, 201410 yr BBQ!! Michael Symon Unveils New Restaurant Concept for Cleveland's E. Fourth Street Posted By Douglas Trattner on Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:00 PM Despite assumptions to the contrary, Michael Symon’s new restaurant on East Fourth Street, in the space formerly occupied by La Strada, will not be another B Spot. Instead, it will be a barbecue joint. “We had no limitations with what we could do with the space,” says Symon. “But at the end of the day, we just wanted to do something different — different for us, different for the city.” Symon has long lamented the absence of great barbecue in his hometown. And those that do prepare barbecue, he points out, do so in a style ripped from other regions. He intends to change that when Mabel’s BBQ opens sometime this fall, when he introduces the nation to “Cleveland-style barbecue.” READ MORE AT: http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/07/24/michael-symon-to-unveil-new-restaurant-concept-for-clevelands-e-fourth-street *Cleveland-style BBQ!! Mabel’s will update the well-worn tradition of a meat-and-two joint, where meals will be served up by the pound on craft paper-lined metal trays. Those meals will feature oak- and applewood-smoked brisket, pork roll (smoked pork belly-wrapped loin), pork and beef ribs, pulled pork, chicken and kielbasa. So this will be down home style, yes! The sides may needs some work. I need some potato or macaroni salad or cole slaw.
September 13, 201410 yr Taken early this morning in a rain, a shot of B&B's signage that just went up
September 14, 201410 yr Toured the interior Labor Day weekend. It's amazing; huge (Dredger's Union's old space). It was crowded even without the signage (which looks great btw). Can't wait till they put up their outdoor seating.
September 15, 201410 yr My wife and I went to B&B last Thursday and the place was pretty busy. The space looks really good, the beers were tasty, and the food was great. Some of the beers could use some work, but I'm sure they'll get there. The food is good, but is mostly served on small plates (which I'm not a huge fan of). This is the perfect place to go before or after a game for a beer and a snack, but it won't make our rotation for dinner spots. Not yet at least.
November 12, 201410 yr Destination Cleveland location. (Although I wish that space was a restaurant/retail with that Euclid Ave. frontage). http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2014/11132014/index.php
November 12, 201410 yr positively Cleveland is changing its name to Destination Cleveland - I think tgis just shows the new signs
November 12, 201410 yr Even if the wood aluminum paneling [thanks w28th for the correction] isn't everyone's favorite (I'm OK with it), I think this will be a big improvement, aesthetically, over the current storefront design. I absolutely loathe how the cheap looking band of dark brown paneling above the storefronts now stretches across both of those buildings.
January 19, 201510 yr Just saw this today at the Destination Cleveland Visitor Center. It doesn't look like this was part of the original renovation renderings up thread. Edit: At second glance it doesn't actually look like it's a structure for a new facade. Just wonder what it's for
January 19, 201510 yr ^Sometimes when doing full facade restoration it's easier from a security standpoint to just build a cheap temporary facade out from the building so that you can close off the space from the exterior while renovating the actual facade.
January 20, 201510 yr Yes, it's probably a construction barrier for pedestrian safety and security of the space and barrier to the elements.
February 7, 201510 yr Watch tour of Barrio's new downtown Cleveland restaurant (video): Kristel's CLE CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Take a tour inside Barrio's newly opened restaurant located inside 5th Street Arcades alongside Prospect Ave., in downtown Cleveland. The 4,000-square-foot space opened its doors last Friday, can seat over 200 guests with plenty of room for standing. As soon as you walk in you are greeted with the 40-seat bar that sits in the center of the room as well as two private dining areas. The "Day of the Dead" decorations also follow the artwork seen inside Barrio's two other locations in Tremont and Lakewood. http://www.cleveland.com/kristel/index.ssf/2015/02/watch_tour_of_barrios_new_down.html#comments
February 12, 201510 yr http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2015/02122015/index.php An updated look coming to Corner Alley on 4th Street
February 12, 201510 yr Huge improvement. The Euclid side was basically a huge dead wall. This is a great improvement to that!
February 12, 201510 yr That looks great. Looks like they moving the main bar to the front room along East 4th and making it much bigger
February 12, 201510 yr ^ Nice. THe outdoor seating along Euclid should be a major improvement. This part confuses me, to be honest. Is there really enough room for seating on the Euclid sidewalk? The rendering and floor plan do a neat trick vaporizing the street trees, street lights, and planters, but can that really be part of the proposal? Assuming those things stick around, the site condition photos in the link show how much room there is to work with.
February 12, 201510 yr ^ Nice. THe outdoor seating along Euclid should be a major improvement. This part confuses me, to be honest. Is there really enough room for seating on the Euclid sidewalk? The rendering and floor plan do a neat trick vaporizing the street trees, street lights, and planters, but can that really be part of the proposal? Assuming those things stick around, the site condition photos in the link show how much room there is to work with. There are other sidewalk seating/dining areas on that side of Euclid, although farther west. The sidewalk width is the same. That being said, sometimes the numbers of pedestrians have to squeeze past those existing al fresco settings. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 12, 201510 yr ^ Nice. THe outdoor seating along Euclid should be a major improvement. This part confuses me, to be honest. Is there really enough room for seating on the Euclid sidewalk? The rendering and floor plan do a neat trick vaporizing the street trees, street lights, and planters, but can that really be part of the proposal? Assuming those things stick around, the site condition photos in the link show how much room there is to work with. There are other sidewalk seating/dining areas on that side of Euclid, although farther west. The sidewalk width is the same. That being said, sometimes the numbers of pedestrians have to squeeze past those existing al fresco settings. Correct - the patio area around Noodle Cat is one such place. Things can get quite bottlenecked there.
February 12, 201510 yr ^^Good point. And now that I look closer, there aren't any street trees in the area where this new seating would be. It really would be just like the area in front of NoodleCat, which I find a little tight. No big deal, even if not perfect. I love the proposed changes overall.
February 12, 201510 yr I like the new toned-down Corner Alley design, whose sign is consistent with the newly-opened Uptown's lanes design. I also like the new Euclid outdoor seating, although I didn't think the elongated windows along Euclid were terrible because you could look in from the street and see all the inside activity which was inviting... I'm very happy, though, that the giant bowling ball and pins will remain along the E. 4th Street facade. It's one of the classic garish American advertising designs: I love it.
February 13, 201510 yr Whenever I'm walking on Euclid and the pedestrian traffic gets bunched up and bottlenecked and I start to get impatient, I remember this: :wink: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 13, 201510 yr I never knew that Cleveland but AMEN! It's crazy that was just a few years ago.
February 13, 201510 yr Whenever I'm walking on Euclid and the pedestrian traffic gets bunched up and bottlenecked and I start to get impatient, I remember this: :wink: I hear ya. The irony is the sidewalk seating helps foster more pedestrianism which gets constrained by the sidewalk seating. And so it goes. EDIT: then again I go back a little further to 1985 when Euclid at East 4th was gritty AND still active with retail.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 13, 201510 yr ^^^ Whoa, is that a Wendy's in the Corner Alley building? It's really amazing to see how much Euclid and E. 4th have transformed.
February 13, 201510 yr ^^^ Whoa, is that a Wendy's in the Corner Alley building? It's really amazing to see how much Euclid and E. 4th have transformed. I vaguely remember that Wendy's...I wish we still had one downtown though
February 13, 201510 yr ^^^ Whoa, is that a Wendy's in the Corner Alley building? It's really amazing to see how much Euclid and E. 4th have transformed. I vaguely remember that Wendy's...I wish we still had one downtown though Yes, I occasionally ate there in the mid-to-late 90s when I was working downtown. There was a particularly grumpy older woman (who was very mannish, looks-wise) who worked there. She'd bark at you if you dared to move two tables together to accommodate a larger party. And she'd barely grunt a word at you if she was behind the cash register. I was always amused at how little she matched her name: Angel.
February 13, 201510 yr I think that Wendy's had seating in the lower level too to accommodate larger crowds, a setup I've seen in other cities but that's the only one like that I can remember in Cleveland.
February 13, 201510 yr The Wendy's closed for several reasons - one was an infestation of cockroaches. :| clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 13, 201510 yr That definitely was a Wendy's and I was in the vault basement area prior to the Euclid Corridor project beginning. Let's just say the current arrangement is a vast, vast improvement.
April 14, 201510 yr Welcome Center opens. http://www.cleveland.com/travel/index.ssf/2015/04/clevelands_new_visitors_center.html#incart_gallery
April 15, 201510 yr ^^^ Whoa, is that a Wendy's in the Corner Alley building? It's really amazing to see how much Euclid and E. 4th have transformed. Yes. And right across the street there was a McDonald's. Plus an awesome comic book shop on the 2nd floor of the Grand Arcade. And the Woolworth's had the really cool food counter.
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