May 21, 200718 yr They did some nice facade restoration on the Bang & Clatter space on Euclid. Noticed it when I was walking around today. I'm no expert, but it looked good to me.
May 26, 200718 yr Disaster on E. 4th Street last night. The basements of all the businesses on E. 4th were completely flooded by a water main break. For Lola and Pickwick, who have large and expensive public dining/entertainment areas in the basement, this has got to be pretty devastating. Perhaps the concert hall at HOB too, I don't know how low that stage area is. I was at Pickwick about to go onstage for the Martini Show at 11:45 when I heard the sound of rushing water coming from the wall behind me (the outside wall in the cabaret). Brown water started gushing in through an access panel in the wall and spreading over the carpet. The staff immediately started throwing down tablecloths, hoping to contain it to the upper back cabaret area, but it soon started pouring down into the lower level around the stage. We stopped the show, and everyone had to get out. As I was leaving about 15 minutes later, the water was still pouring in, and the lower stage level of the cabaret had become a pond. Last I heard, by the time they finally got the water shut off around 2 am, there was 3 1/2 feet of water covering the entire downstairs. I still have not heard whether we are going on with the shows or not tonight. They have a huge headliner in the comedy club tonight too (Mike Epps) with an extra late show and extra show tomorrow, which I believe were all sold out. I haven't heard what caused the water main break. I wonder if it was related to the construction on Euclid...
May 26, 200718 yr I walked past it earlier today, and I did notice a lot of extra workers on the street than usual. Also, there is a decent amount of mud everywhere that confused me until I read the post above (at the time I just assumed it must have rained harder than I had thought). This is terrible and we'll have to see if there will be a need for some type of compensation to these businesses if we find there was a problem. Also, isnt the garage of the Windsor building in the basement. I would hate to hear what car damage was done to the residents...
May 26, 200718 yr My car is in the Windsor building/Woolworth building basement garage. There was a little water on the floor, which is sadly usual, but no flooding. The HOB concert hall is ok as well, as it is above the garages.
May 27, 200718 yr They managed to get all the water drained out of Pickwick and we actually went on with everything as planned last night. I was amazed. Aside from a slight dampness in the air, I would never have known anything had happened in there.
June 4, 200718 yr I've been told that the plan to close E. 4th to traffic and turn it into pedestrian only with outdoor dining is set to finally happen this week. We'll see. There have been so many delays to making this happen, I really hope it finally does, it will be a very cool festive atmosphere down there, even more so than it is already...
June 4, 200718 yr Wow, I was totally in the dark about this plan (not an unusual event). Are there any details? E.g., will it be closed 24 hours a day, what about the parking garages on E4th, etc..?
June 4, 200718 yr Wow, I was totally in the dark about this plan (not an unusual event). Are there any details? E.g., will it be closed 24 hours a day, what about the parking garages on E4th, etc..? this was proposed years ago, but there were concerns from the fire department about getting equipment in there, so they developed some training for all employees to remove tables and some movable pylons/bollards so the trucks could get through. but then, there was still some opposition so it hasn't happened. i'm not really opposed to traffic on this street - especially off hours. anyone who thinks this is a real "through" street has something coming to them while they wait behind the d*mn valet line. are there any plans to change this?
June 4, 200718 yr Yeah, in this case it seems silly to be a through street since Euclid and Prospect are right there. They still need a walking area in the middle. Fire trucks could fit in there, if need be.
June 5, 200718 yr So with the sellout Jake last weekend along with the Cavs, how did E. 4th merchants do?
June 8, 200718 yr the jake was sold out friday night, i went that night and all they had left were standing room only tickets for 20.00
June 8, 200718 yr ^The only thing is, the vendors didn't have $1 hotdogs for sale, just the booths. you know, I went to last friday's dollar dog night. I literally didn't see one single vendor. not even the cotton candy, beer or whatever guy. That was moderately annoying (yes I am that lazy) Okay, back on subject.
June 8, 200718 yr ^The only thing is, the vendors didn't have $1 hotdogs for sale, just the booths. you know, I went to last friday's dollar dog night. I literally didn't see one single vendor. not even the cotton candy, beer or whatever guy. That was moderately annoying (yes I am that lazy) Okay, back on subject. You're far too young to be so lazy. There are what 100 concession stands with in easy walking distance to any seat.
June 8, 200718 yr people were mobbing the vendors before they could get to their rows buying like 15 dogs at a time as well as the concession stand lines being 20 deep the whole game. i posted up outside the vendors room and snagged them as they came out. before i knew it there were 10 people behind me.
June 8, 200718 yr people were mobbing the vendors before they could get to their rows buying like 15 dogs at a time as well as the concession stand lines being 20 deep the whole game. i posted up outside the vendors room and snagged them as they came out. before i knew it there were 10 people behind me. WOW....well good for the vendors and the economy!
June 8, 200718 yr ^The only thing is, the vendors didn't have $1 hotdogs for sale, just the booths. you know, I went to last friday's dollar dog night. I literally didn't see one single vendor. not even the cotton candy, beer or whatever guy. That was moderately annoying (yes I am that lazy) Okay, back on subject. I was there too and you're right- not one vendor...odd, I do not recall that ever being the case. We were in the very last row though. I had 2.5 dogs. other than the mustard they are nothing to write home about. I am spoiled by Steve's I guess
June 12, 200718 yr The street is finally closed to traffic. Corner Alley put up the fence for their patio and Pickwick is in the process of setting up their patio. Also, it looks like a lot of progress is being made on Wonderbar (I think that's the name of the jazz bar?). Any word on the East 4th/ Euclid construction across from Corner Alley?
June 12, 200718 yr Too bad these places couldn't be opened in time for the big Finals week extravaganza! I was hoping they'd be opened for my wedding at the Old Arcade two weeks ago, but I gave up on that some time ago...
June 12, 200718 yr it looks really tight in the middle where pickwick's new patio area and HOB's pati area collide - there is only a narrow through passage. will be interesing to see how this handles heavy ped traffic. i had kind of hoped since they were closing the street, it would be an open drinking zone and that the individual establishments wouldn't have to put up fences. it seems like overkill to close the street and still require fencing.
June 12, 200718 yr ^Right on. Louisville, KY has a block-long entertainment district downtown (ironically enough, it's called 4th Street Live) that is partially covered by a glass canopy and the entire street is closed on weekend nights to pedestrians and is open container. You are carded at each end of the street (wristbands are given) and a large tiki-style bar is set up in the middle of the street. There are numerous establishments to sample (a bowling alley, The Pub, Saddle Ridge, a carribbean-style place, a huge Barnes& Noble, etc.) and the bars stay open til 4am. Very cool. I don't see why that couldn't be done here, no?
June 12, 200718 yr ^Right on. Louisville, KY has a block-long entertainment district downtown (ironically enough, it's called 4th Street Live) that is partially covered by a glass canopy and the entire street is closed on weekend nights to pedestrians and is open container. You are carded at each end of the street (wristbands are given) and a large tiki-style bar is set up in the middle of the street. There are numerous establishments to sample (a bowling alley, The Pub, Saddle Ridge, a carribbean-style place, a huge Barnes& Noble, etc.) and the bars stay open til 4am. Very cool. I don't see why that couldn't be done here, no? I have five words: Ohio Division of Liquor Control
June 12, 200718 yr it might be a little more difficult to pull that off since people live on E 4th. I would be pissed if I got carded trying to get to my apt.
June 12, 200718 yr ^Right on. Louisville, KY has a block-long entertainment district downtown (ironically enough, it's called 4th Street Live) that is partially covered by a glass canopy and the entire street is closed on weekend nights to pedestrians and is open container. You are carded at each end of the street (wristbands are given) and a large tiki-style bar is set up in the middle of the street. There are numerous establishments to sample (a bowling alley, The Pub, Saddle Ridge, a carribbean-style place, a huge Barnes& Noble, etc.) and the bars stay open til 4am. Very cool. I don't see why that couldn't be done here, no? memphis does that with Beale St. Its possible because Beale is now a private street (it was vacated).
June 12, 200718 yr 4th Street Live in Louisville used to be an enclosed mall, not unlike Cleveland's Galleria so it may be along the same lines as Beale Street (formerly private property). clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
June 12, 200718 yr Agree with Morning Theft. If I lived on 4th Street I certainly would not be pleased to have what was described in Louisville going on at my door step every summer weekend. If residential living and retail other than entertainment is the goal of 4th street (combined with the bars and restaurants) this is not a good idea. Have to have a happy medium.
June 12, 200718 yr i'd like a happy medium too, but it doesn't appear that Maron is going that direction. He needs a coffee shop, a bodega and a diner on that street. Is there even enough available space for that many additional uses?
June 12, 200718 yr i'd like a happy medium too, but it doesn't appear that Maron is going that direction. He needs a coffee shop, a bodega and a diner on that street. Is there even enough available space for that many additional uses? Well there is available space on Euclid and prospect. Can any see a boutique bodega and diner on the corner of Prospect & Ontario? That block is begging for help. Clear out the bottom level of a few of those damn garages and put in "daily use" retail that residents can make use of
June 12, 200718 yr ^Right on. Louisville, KY has a block-long entertainment district downtown (ironically enough, it's called 4th Street Live) that is partially covered by a glass canopy and the entire street is closed on weekend nights to pedestrians and is open container. You are carded at each end of the street (wristbands are given) and a large tiki-style bar is set up in the middle of the street. There are numerous establishments to sample (a bowling alley, The Pub, Saddle Ridge, a carribbean-style place, a huge Barnes& Noble, etc.) and the bars stay open til 4am. Very cool. I don't see why that couldn't be done here, no? They also have this in downtown Baltimore- called Power Plant Live. However, I think this is a cheesy way to develop. It only brings people in on Friday and Saturday night. During daytime and weeknights, the area is generally deserted (and quite scary given its Baltimore).
June 13, 200718 yr ^Right on. Louisville, KY has a block-long entertainment district downtown (ironically enough, it's called 4th Street Live) that is partially covered by a glass canopy and the entire street is closed on weekend nights to pedestrians and is open container. You are carded at each end of the street (wristbands are given) and a large tiki-style bar is set up in the middle of the street. There are numerous establishments to sample (a bowling alley, The Pub, Saddle Ridge, a carribbean-style place, a huge Barnes& Noble, etc.) and the bars stay open til 4am. Very cool. I don't see why that couldn't be done here, no? They also have this in downtown Baltimore- called Power Plant Live. However, I think this is a cheesy way to develop. It only brings people in on Friday and Saturday night. During daytime and weeknights, the area is generally deserted (and quite scary given its Baltimore). Agreed, person. We're even getting one of these cornball Cordish developments here in Pittsburgh near the stadiums called North Shore Live! I can't wait to see which chain bars and faux Irish pubs we get.
June 14, 200718 yr ^^Good points fellas. I don't recall any residential spaces on that block in Louisville. I will say it was a really good time for an out-of-towner, being there really isn't anything like it in C-town.
June 14, 200718 yr The jazz lounge in the old Sissler Jewelry building is really coming along. The bar is intact and they seem to be working on the rear wall of the club. That building is one of more interesting ones in the city. No more than 20 feet wide, 6 or 7 stories tall, fire escapes, slightly blackened from soot, faded painted signage on the upper sides of the building, etc. E4th was packed during lunch today with all the restaurants now being able to have alfresco dining with the closure to thru traffic.
June 14, 200718 yr i hope they can develop different "road closed" signs at either end. i understand they need movable signs to allow emergency equipment through and to communicate that the road is closed, but perhaps a swinging-arm gate with a nicely placed "road closed" or "pedestrians only" sign or something. perhaps something like this painted green: as is, the large construction style signs take away a litte from the really nice outdoor spaces.
June 16, 200717 yr From today's PD Tipoff: Bad sign: Amid all the construction downtown, East Fourth Street has become an oasis with its new outdoor patio area. So how do they assure no one drives down East Fourth Street? Giant "Road Closed" signs that make the oasis look like just another construction zone, something Cleveland has in abundance already this summer. Councilman Joe Cimperman assured us the unsightly signs weren't part of the plan approved by the planning commission and said they're only temporary.
June 16, 200717 yr Nice of the PD to write an article highlighting the positive changes in my neighborhood. Oh, wait. Anyway, all of the residential buildings are going to be receiving new awnings over the resident entrances. They should be up early next week. Rumor keep flying around the neighborhood about new things that may or may not be coming. Nothing really seems solid, but there is alot of interest apparently, so hopefully there will be some announcements sometime soon.
June 19, 200717 yr Zocalo or w/e seems to be coming along pretty well I guess anyone have any other updates or ideas???
June 19, 200717 yr Does Lola have a patio? Not as far as I know - I've never seen anyone out there. Umm, they put one in yesterday...or at least the fencing for it is now up.
June 20, 200717 yr http://blog.cleveland.com/earlyedition/2007/06/artslife_the_revival_of_east_f.html The revival of East Fourth Street June 19, 2007 By Bill Lubinger Plain Dealer Reporter East Fourth Street was "the liveliest, gayest block in Cleveland," the Cleveland Press touted in 1936. With a mix of shops and cafes, theater, music and art schools, the street was the place to be -- when downtown was the only place to be in Northeast Ohio...
June 20, 200717 yr Residents and some workers get a little card that they can show to some of the local businesses and they get a discount, usually 10%. http://www.east4thstreet.com/discounts
June 20, 200717 yr as much as i want to root for downtown, this place is more of a cluster of restaurants for suburbanites to try out... also whatever happened to that 515 euclid residential tower...??
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