And Cleveland State University is a better name because it relates to the other schools that kids around here are thinking about going to like Ohio State, Kent State, and BGSU.

 

You saying people in NE Ohio are a little dim that they have to see the word "State" in a college name in order to think its a place where they should apply?

 

The school should be aiming high. If it can get students from all over the country and world all the better for all the students who attend there. Not only would be a more culturally diverse student body, but it would be more competitive, meaning it would go up in national rankings and it would attract even more students.

 

Names matter. Of course, other things do as well (like quality of education, dorms/campus life, etc.), but the name is not trivial by any means. When people start a company or have a kid, many agonize and fight over what the name should be--why would it be different for this institution?

 

they should call it 'the really good university'. tRGU should get people to go there.  Forgive me if this has already been answered, but is there much precedent for a major university changing its name within the last twenty years?  I just feel like a name change could be seen as cheesy, but this is coming from someone who goes to Kent STATE University and went there without even having considered that the name of the school was indicative of the quality

they should call it 'the really good university'. tRGU should get people to go there. Forgive me if this has already been answered, but is there much precedent for a major university changing its name within the last twenty years? I just feel like a name change could be seen as cheesy, but this is coming from someone who goes to Kent STATE University and went there without even having considered that the name of the school was indicative of the quality

 

Yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_university_and_college_name_changes_in_the_United_States

 

Notable on that list is Troy University who changed it's name in 2004 from Troy State University. Seems very similar to what CSU is considering. The trustees stated that, "they believe the name change allows the university system to reflect its quality, funding sources and global mission better."

i revise my stance.  I poked around the net a little bit and it seems that, at least from a fund raising stand point, schools greatly benefit from dropping 'state' from their name; though i can't tell if it is directly caused from the name change or if it is because names are usually changed in times that the school is revamping its facilities/standards.  Either way, it would probably behoove CSU to do it.

the idea that a name would affect reputation still doesn't make sense to me, but it appears to make a difference.

Tri-State University rebranded itself as Trine University a couple years ago.

 

http://www.trine.edu/wearetrine/index.cfm

Im sorry if i offended anybody but all i was trying to get across is that I don't believe that Cleveland State University will benefit by simply dropping the word State. Tons of popular schools have the word State in them and i think that the University of Cleveland sounds a bit funny. Its a public school and will always be one so changing the name to pretend its not just seems a little bit funny to me.

^I don't think anyones aim is to make people believe it's a private university. I see it as a simple rebranding. A lot of people have an image of of CSU that is very inaccurate due to all the construction and changes of late. Rebranding to University of Cleveland or something else gives them an opportunity to associate the new name with something more positive than what was previously associated with CSU for a lot of people. If CSU wants to move into the next "tier" of University than a fresh, new name might be appropriate.

The one that I remember most is "Memphis State University" changing to "University of Memphis."

 

Sheesh, I never expected my suggestion (which has been made before by others here) to start such a firestorm!

Well there is no point to continue arguing because it's not doing any good so we should just move on and get this back on topic!

The football team concept for CSU is still out there. Personally, I think its a good idea, as it will add more activity downtown and make CSU more a campus and less of a commuter school (complimenting the dorms, etc.).

 

"Twenty-six colleges and universities nationwide are adding football between now and 2013, according to USA Today......The latest update was that CSU would be taking its options to students, and they'd be voting; students' fees would be hiked at least a little to help pay for the cost of starting a team...."

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20100811/BLOGS04/100819963

I thought this already went to vote and the overall response was IN FAVOR of a football team?

Yes, but they're also in favor of not having tuition raised because of it.

Students entered the school assuming their fees/tuition would be one thing, so if its a big change, it would be unfair to them to make them pay more. Future students--starting, say Fall 2011, should carry the costs, perhaps (yet start the process now)...

just charge 15,000 people a $100 fee and then you get $1,500,000

just charge 15,000 people a $100 fee and then you get $1,500,000

 

:roll:

 

Easy for you to say, but the students voted against adding another fee.

what happened to the posts about the football team? they seemed to have disappeared. in any event, crains, today posted the survey results:

 

"In the spring, CSU took to the student body with a survey about its feelings. The results:

 

# Are you interested in having Cleveland State University add a Division I non-scholarship football team (e.g. University of Dayton, Butler University) to its intercollegiate athletic program? Yes: 1,214 (68.7%); No: 553

 

# Are you willing to pay a fee for Division 1 non-scholarship football in addition to any potential, future tuition increases that may be instituted by the University? Yes: 780; No: 987 (55.6%)...."

 

There are four questions total--Asked differently, for Question #2 above, more said they WOULD pay, then wouldn't....

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20100812/BLOGS04/100819933

 

A nice little article on President Berkman:

 

“Our students are a greater multiplier for this community than LeBron James.” --Dr. Ronald Berkman

 

http://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/articles/2010/07/30/news/local/doc4c51f4bf9a553653700106.txt

The International School is OPEN:

 

Cleveland school district, Cleveland State University team up to open new school

Published: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 7:00 PM

Thomas Ott, The Plain Dealer

 

 

A new Cleveland school opened Thursday, easing its first students into a program that will supplement the basics with Mandarin Chinese.

 

The Campus International School, a joint venture between the school district and Cleveland State University, welcomed 60 first- and second-graders a week before most other city students resume classes. Sixty kindergartners will arrive Wednesday, bringing the school to capacity.

 

About a fourth of the students come from the suburbs.

 

Campus International, the latest addition to the district's "innovation" portfolio, will grow by a grade each year until it extends through high school. It's in leased classrooms at the former First United Methodist Church, on Euclid Avenue at East 30th Street, but officials hope to move eventually to a building at the neighboring university.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/08/cleveland_school_district_clev.html

 

The Student Center is having "The Big Reveal" on september 8th with a day full of events and free stuff and fireworks at night

 

http://www.csuohio.edu/events/bigreveal/

Could CSU build a stadium for the football team and share it with a MLS team since the thing that stopped us from getting a team in the past is that we dont have a stadium the right size for the MLS.

Could CSU build a stadium for the football team and share it with a MLS team since the thing that stopped us from getting a team in the past is that we dont have a stadium the right size for the MLS.

 

Probably not.  Northern Summit County was very close to building a soccer-specific stadium for an MLS expansion team, but voters turned down a tax increase to pay for it.

But what does that have to do with CSU's ability to build the stadium?

But what does that have to do with CSU's ability to build the stadium?

 

I just don't see where the University funding or space would come from, let alone the commitment to putting together a football program that can justify a 15,000-20,000 seat stadium (which is the bare minimum necessary to  host an MLS team).  And although there was a strong movement for an MLS team in Cleveland/Akron in the mid-2000s, I think all of that momentum has been lost.  We had a very good chance at a team that would have played in Macedonia (I believe), but the voters said no, and we lost out.  We've been lapped by other candidate cities for expansion.

Regarding the MLS expansion, that is really a non starter.  In the next few years they will have 19 teams (expansion in Portland, Vancouver, and Montreal) with focus on the 20th team being in NYC.  I think once they get to that point they will hold off on expansion (or at least should), which has occurred very rapidly. 

 

Anyway this is off topic, but its not going to happen in the next 3-4 years. Now, in my opinion, if CSU football gets going and creates some momentum to the point that they could feasibly build a 15-20K stadium and fill it, which would likely be 10 years down the line, then it could be an option.

How about using the Browns stadium fora few years....? The thing gets used for actual football games what? ten times a year?

^Because they will draw between 3-5 thousand per game and that will look pathetic in Browns Stadium, and people will comment on that over and over.  Not good for school or team morale.

I've always thought CWRU Field would make a great temporary solution.

 

It currently holds about 2500 people, but could hold 4000-5000 if additional bleachers were engineered correctly (hold a competition between CWRU and CSU engineers to make it work!)  The walls of the stadium are brick student dorms if you've never seen it before....very cool.

 

Plus, they could have some "double header" type Saturday games.  CWRU vs .... @ 1 pm.  CSU vs... @ 8 pm.

 

Although it may become over-crowded (hopefully!) rather quickly, it would produce a quick, easy, and cheap fix to the problem, and create a unique and intimate setting for both schools.  Not to mention, it would be VERY urban...

^Because they will draw between 3-5 thousand per game and that will look pathetic in Browns Stadium, and people will comment on that over and over.  Not good for school or team morale.

 

Just because you think it looks bad isn't reason enough to build a brand new stadium for a brand new team.  Let them play in CBS and draw whatever they draw.  How are you going to properly size a stadium if you don't know what the team will draw anyway?  Give them 3 years minimum at CBS before any further stadium plans are made.

 

You know, if CSU draws really well they could much more easily make the jump to Division 1A football if they wanted to.  How impressive would it be if a little Division 1AA non-scholarship school was drawing 30,000+?  You never know... this is a football town.

As this diverges from CSU-specific news, may I suggest that any MLS talk go here: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,7469.300.html ...where this same debate was ongoing once upon a time...

^^I was being generous suggesting 3-5 thousand.

You know, if CSU draws really well they could much more easily make the jump to Division 1A football if they wanted to.  How impressive would it be if a little Division 1AA non-scholarship school was drawing 30,000+?  You never know... this is a football town.

 

This may be a football town, but it's an Ohio State town first and foremost right now.  Schools like Ohio U., Kent, Akron, and many of the DIII schools have trouble drawing when Ohio State is playing.  And those schools are all more residential in character than CSU, meaning they have more students that could easily walk to games.  I don't know that Cleveland State will do any better slotted against the Buckeyes.

 

If Cleveland State fields a football team, I think Division I-AA non-scholarship is probably their best bet, and playing at Lakewood High School Stadium or maybe CWRU would make sense.  Heck those locations would probably be closer for many CSU students than an actual on-campus stadium.  The only problem is that D-IAA non-scholarship (and I've had this debate about my UD Flyer before) is a weak sauce division with very few teams and no real national championship.

CSU hires firms to promote itself, the Wolstein Center and the men's basketball team

Published: Monday, August 30, 2010, 5:30 AM   

Karen Farkas, The Plain Dealer

 

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland State University is seeking a higher profile for the Wolstein Center, its men's basketball team -- and itself.

 

It wants to draw more events to the 13,000-seat arena, increase attendance and interest in the men's basketball team and bring in revenue from advertising and agreements with local and national companies.

 

For the first time, CSU has hired a sports marketing company to handle advertising for the entire university, including the Wolstein Center and the athletic department, which previously had done its own marketing and promotions.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/08/csu_hires_firms_to_promote_its.html

Some more indepth info on the International School:

 

http://www.csucauldron.com/cleveland-state-opens-k-12-school-1.1595381

 

Benefits for Cleveland State permeate the entire university. Almost every college or school has already sought collaboration with the International School. While many are in the formative stages, or more likely to become fruitful when the school expands in the future, some are already making an impact.

 

While the school did not hold to specific quotas this year because of a late start, the long-term goal is to have 25 to 35 percent of enrollment come from Cleveland State parents (faculty, staff or students) and have certain percentages established for Cleveland proper.

Ribbon cutting and video for the new school at Cleveland State:

 

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/education/ribbon-cutting-for-new-cleveland-school

The latest on the CSU football water-treading:

 

State of CSU football: Where is Cleveland State at with a possible football program?

BY DANIEL WOLF

 

Oct. 14, 2010

 

Cleveland State University made a big push to have students choose if they wanted to pay more tuition to support a football team back in the spring 2010 semester.

Fifty-seven percent of students voted for an increase of $4-$6 per credit hour to get a Viking football team on the field sometime in the future.

So where is the CSU football team proposal at right now? It is at a standstill for the time being.

 

http://www.csuohio.edu/class/com/clevelandstater/Copy/120424.html

^This is a really interesting issue.  A number of schools are now dropping football programs for various reasons, without necessarily really missing them much.  Here's a nice Boston-oriented discussion of the issue: http://www.boston.com/yourtown/brookline/articles/2010/10/03/yes_theres_life_after_football/

More good news from CSU:

 

Cleveland State University's new welcome center woos prospective students

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/01/cleveland_state_universitys_ne_3.html

With CWRU's new applications way up (up 45%)  (http://blog.case.edu/case-news/2011/01/28/firstyear_student_applications_up_for_class_of_2015), I wonder if we'll see similar numbers for CSU since it has had way more improvements than case.

 

Any idea?

 

Not to mention, this would be a great "feel good" story for Cleveland if both universities (and I believe Tri-C) to see such a rise in interest.

Oh this is good--a bunch of nerds who can't hold their own Downtown :wink:

 

Cleveland State University scholarships aimed at attracting good students to live on campus

Published: Tuesday, March 01, 2011, 8:00 PM

By Karen Farkas, The Plain Dealer

 

Cleveland State University is offering annual scholarships of $5,100 aimed at improving the academic quality of its students and convincing them to live on campus.

 

CSU's Freshmen Scholars program, introduced last fall, will now include an added incentive for students to live in residence halls.

 

The Freshman Scholars program provides a $3,000 scholarship to incoming freshmen who have a 3.0 GPA in high school and an ACT score of at least 23. The scholarship is renewable if the student maintains a 3.0 GPA and completes at least 12 credit hours each semester.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/03/cleveland_state_will_increase.html

^ thats a good idea. promote your new dorms and to people who get good grades. And a 23 on the ACT is far from impossible so its not an unreachable mark.

 

And this article has the total of 1,011 possible spaces

If they fill all of the dorms and have to turn people down I wonder if they will plan to build more dorms. Also if that happens, will they be giving the dorms to the smart kids over the kids with worse grades/ACT scores?

George Voinovich to serve as consultant at Cleveland State University

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Former U.S. Senator George Voinovich will serve as a consultant and adviser on major research projects at the Maxine Goodman Levin College of Urban Affairs at Cleveland State University.

 

Voinovich will have the same role at Ohio's University's Voinovich School of Leadership and Public Affairs.

 

He will receive no salary at CSU, his hours are open-ended and the projects have not been determined, said school spokesman Joe Mosbrook.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/04/george_voinovich_to_serve_as_c.html

Cleveland State establishes partnership with Northeast Ohio Medical University

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - A partnership between Cleveland State University and the Northeast Ohio Medical University will produce doctors committed to practicing in urban neighborhoods, according to the doctor leading the effort.

 

"The bottom line is that we will connect to the community," said Dr. Mark Penn, senior vice president for academic affairs at NEOMED, formerly the Northeast Ohio Universities College of Medicine & Pharmacy.

 

Through the program, which begins in the fall, students start their studies at CSU and then advance to NEOMED to earn their medical degrees.

 

 

Cleveland State to lease historic Union Building

 

Cleveland State University will lease a historic building that has been largely vacant for six years to use as administrative offices and to provide space for Northeast Ohio Medical University classes as part of a partnership to train urban doctors.

 

Tom Kuluris, president of Liberty Development Co. of Westlake, is thrilled that CSU sees the potential in the Union Building at 1836 Euclid Ave., across the street from the university's student center. Liberty bought the building last summer and received $3.3 million in historic-preservation tax credits.

 

"(CSU) understood the vision to renovate and save the building," he said.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/05/cleveland_state_establishes_pa.html

Monte Ahuja gives $10 million to Cleveland State University; largest gift in school's history (watch video)

Published: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 11:43 AM   

Karen Farkas, The Plain Dealer

 

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Entrepreneur Monte Ahuja, who often credits Cleveland State University with motivating him to launch the company that made him a multimillionaire, has donated $10 million to the university -- the largest gift in its 47-year history.

 

The money will fund scholarships and the new Monte Ahuja Endowed Chair of Global Business. CSU trustees this morning voted to rename the James J. Nance College of Business as the Monte Ahuja College of Business.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/06/monte_ahuja_gives_10_million_t.html

Even easier to live car-free by Downtown.  CWRU/University Circle has City Wheels.  Know, CSU and Downtown are getting Zipcar

 

Cleveland State University, Zipcar Inc. offer car-sharing program on campus

By SCOTT SUTTELL

3:08 pm, August 29, 2011

 

Cleveland State University said it has established a partnership with Zipcar Inc. to offer a car-sharing program on campus.

 

CSU members pay a $35 annual fee for the service, and rates on all Zipcars start at $8 per hour and $66 per day. The university said gas, insurance, roadside assistance and up to 180 miles of driving per day are included in the hourly and daily rates. Cars can be reserved for as little as an hour or for multiple days.

 

The car-sharing program is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week to all students, faculty and staff members ages 18 and older. (Information is available here.)

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20110829/FREE/110829857

Even easier to live car-free by Downtown.  CWRU/University Circle has City Wheels.  Know, CSU and Downtown are getting Zipcar

 

 

It's too bad that CityWheels closed its Oberlin and Shaker Square locations, but at least it's keeping the UC/CWRU location http://www.mycitywheels.com/map_UCircle.php.

 

And Oberlin now has Hertz On-Demand: http://www.hertzondemand.com/Oberlin/

Even easier to live car-free by Downtown.  CWRU/University Circle has City Wheels.  Know, CSU and Downtown are getting Zipcar

 

 

It's too bad that CityWheels closed its Oberlin and Shaker Square locations, but at least it's keeping the UC/CWRU location http://www.mycitywheels.com/map_UCircle.php.

 

And Oberlin now has Hertz On-Demand: http://www.hertzondemand.com/Oberlin/

 

My understanding is the CityWheels is no longer in existence and was sold to Zipcar.  There should be more zip car locations showing up in the Cleveland area soon.

I wasn't sure. I got an e-mail from City Wheels' Ryan McKenzie about him selling the cars for dirt cheap, but I couldn't remember if he was closing some of the sites or the whole thing. And the website still suggested it had the UC/CWRU site.

 

EDIT: I modified an existing discussion in the transportation thread for further discussion of car-sharing services in Greater Cleveland. Go to........

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,26195.msg573664.html#msg573664

 

Carry on!

Cleveland State's pipeline to medical school starts this Fall.  Cleveland medical influences continues:

 

Northeast Ohio Medical University, Cleveland State University collaborate to train medical students

Published: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 6:00 PM    Updated: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 11:39 PM

By Angela Townsend, The Plain Dealer

 

 

In August 2010, on the day he was installed as president of the Northeast Ohio Medical University, Dr. Jay A. Gershen pledged his commitment and his own money toward the creation of a new "education for service" program.

 

"Our goal is to develop the pipeline and train students who are more likely to go back to those communities," said NEOMED Dean Jeffrey Sussman. Ultimately, he said, the hope is that the medical school can provide a supply of primary-care physicians and pharmacists who want to return to their home communities, underserved places where the shortage of those professionals is acutely felt.

 

Three students from CSU started classes at NEOMED on Monday. They join other first-year students who have been chosen from out of more than 2,000 people who apply each year -- most from Youngstown State University, Kent State University and the University of Akron. The total first-year medical school class will be 126 students.

 

On June 30, Gov. John Kasich signed legislation approving funding for NEOMED to add 35 students to its medical school class. The legislation also established the NEOMED Academic Campus at CSU.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2011/08/northeast_ohio_medical_univers.html

 

 

 

Cleveland State University has largest and smartest freshman class in history

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland State University has attracted the largest and smartest freshman class in its history -- which it attributes to a vibrant campus, scholarships and the economy.

 

Its 1,392 freshmen, up 11 percent from last year, include 380 who received a renewable $3,000 annual scholarship and 96 out-of-state students who received academic scholarships.

 

The average GPA is 3.2, compared with 2.94 five years ago, said Heike Heinrich, director of undergraduate admissions.

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/09/cleveland_state_university_has.html