May 13, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Pablo said: There’s a construction fence around the Parkside on Pearl project site. I'm curious if they end up building this rather quickly so they can get the business tenants that will be displaced (Columbus Eyeworks, etc.) at their other taller project across High Street into this building so then they can do their next project.
May 25, 20223 yr On 12/29/2020 at 7:04 PM, DevolsDance said: Looks like with Monarch (Formerly Level) leaving, Wood has decided to give the building an overhaul. The address is 700 N High Street, directly across from Del Mar. Details included a full facade renovation, a full buildout of the second floor, adding a pretty substantial glass roof to open up the space, and a wrap around outdoor patio on the second level. Looks like a pretty detailed and elaborate renovation so while no tenant is mentioned, I would guess they have one in mind (looks too tight for an event space). I do believe that while the structure is historic, it is not considered a contributing building due to it being a combo of a few lots and multiple remodels over the years. https://columbusohdev.box.com/s/4owcufftmwdtm2djcwcq6m2zc5wf1yvd Wood Companies really backed down from this design in the latest submission to the commission. I’m disappointed. https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fcolumbusohdev.box.com%2Fs%2Fz8l51eeqdipdnmtygoce27fx2wvlc73f
May 25, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, smjjms said: Wood Companies really backed down from this design in the latest submission to the commission. I’m disappointed. https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fcolumbusohdev.box.com%2Fs%2Fz8l51eeqdipdnmtygoce27fx2wvlc73f Yikes, better off leaving what is already there.
May 25, 20223 yr Yikes. But honestly, I think this is a more likely outcome of costs etc. Large projects have lots of overage calculated and more room for profit. A small project like the proposal didn't offer alot more income for the investment. And the investment costs have shot up significantly. I would guess this also applied to the Union Project or the one just north of the cap. It is a shame though. If those three projects had been completed as planned, it would have added just a bit more oomph to the progress of the Short North. And yes, oomph is a technical architecture and development term. 🙃
May 25, 20223 yr The Hubbard 12 story is back for a demolition permit and some more massing info. The last meeting the commission was worried about the height and wanted some additional massing designs. Wood Cos is going to present 3. the first one is 166 ft, the second is also 166 ft with just a slightly different top and the last one is 141 ft and slightly wider. It honestly looks bad and I’m sure will be the one the commission likes.
May 25, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, VintageLife said: The Hubbard 12 story is back for a demolition permit and some more massing info. The last meeting the commission was worried about the height and wanted some additional massing designs. Wood Cos is going to present 3. the first one is 166 ft, the second is also 166 ft with just a slightly different top and the last one is 141 ft and slightly wider. It honestly looks bad and I’m sure will be the one the commission likes. The shorter version looks horrible. The architecture of the taller version is very nice and unique to what is currently being built around the city. Hopefully the commission will let them build it, but I won't hold my breath.
May 25, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: The shorter version looks horrible. The architecture of the taller version is very nice and unique to what is currently being built around the city. Hopefully the commission will let them build it, but I won't hold my breath. I’m wondering if that is kind of their plan, make the shortest one look crappy. It doesn’t work as well with the 1 story in front either.
May 25, 20223 yr The shorter one looks horrible intentionally. The developer wants the commission to reject it for the taller versions so they didn't add any additional details to make it stand out. @VintageLife beat me to it. Edited May 25, 20223 yr by DTCL11
May 25, 20223 yr Just now, DTCL11 said: The shorter one looks horrible intentionally. The developer wants the commission to reject it for the taller versions so they didn't add any additional details to make it stand out. @VintageLife beat me to it. Oh for sure. And it's such a shame they have to do something like this. We could have had numerous 15+ story buildings completed by now, or currently under construction, up and down High street if it weren't various commissions being completely unreasonable.
May 25, 20223 yr This is so frustrating. Short north is exactly the place to build a 12 story building. It seems these commissioners never want Columbus to urbanize. Urbanohio members need to take over commissions 😂
May 28, 20223 yr On 10/24/2021 at 8:49 AM, 614love said: Does anybody know what is going in at the NW corner of High and 5th? It’s the old American Apparel/Madison USA space. That space was papered up for months. Seems like it opened up to little fanfare, but I noticed when I was driving through last weekend the spot finally opened up. Some place called Dreams on High St. Driving through today, I noticed several more “coming soon” signs on various storefronts. Glad to see a lot of those spots filling up again.
June 5, 20223 yr Site work continues for the Green House Short North project: And more equipment arriving for the next Hubbard mixed use project. I think this concludes this edition of my construction round up 😂
June 9, 20223 yr On 5/25/2022 at 3:53 PM, VintageLife said: The Hubbard 12 story is back for a demolition permit and some more massing info. The last meeting the commission was worried about the height and wanted some additional massing designs. Wood Cos is going to present 3. the first one is 166 ft, the second is also 166 ft with just a slightly different top and the last one is 141 ft and slightly wider. It honestly looks bad and I’m sure will be the one the commission likes. I really hope that they choose the one closest to the original. These area commissions are getting out of hand and it is unacceptable. 3 hours ago, Pablo said: Utility work at Parkside on Pearl About time. How long has this been proposed-it seems close to ten years. Finally!
June 9, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Toddguy said: I really hope that they choose the one closest to the original. These area commissions are getting out of hand and it is unacceptable. About time. How long has this been proposed-it seems close to ten years. Finally! The first article I found for a proposal for parkside was in 2013, so you are correct, it’s been almost 10 years.
June 24, 20222 yr The old check cashing building in the short north will sadly not be replaced. Equitas is renovation the property into their pharmacy. • Change the mansard roof to a flat roof. • Update of exterior of building to a more modern design. • West elevation will have new stucco reveals. • East elevation to have new metal panel, glass with translucent glazing, and a new storefront in the existing opening. • North elevation to have brick and new wall mounted lighting. • South elevation will consist of brick, stucco, and a new drive-thru window. • Modifications made to parking lot striping. • A future application will include details of the landscaping and graphics. Edited June 24, 20222 yr by VintageLife
June 24, 20222 yr 54 minutes ago, VintageLife said: The old check cashing building in the short north will sadly not be replaced. Equitas is renovation the property into their pharmacy. No way. I can't believe that parcel wasn't fetched by a developer! How in the world is the city and area commissions okay with this? Why not put a multi-story building on the site with an Equitas pharmacy and drive-thru akin to the White Castle building further up on High St.? Yet another missed opportunity.
June 24, 20222 yr 7 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: No way. I can't believe that parcel wasn't fetched by a developer! How in the world is the city and area commissions okay with this? Why not put a multi-story building on the site with an Equitas pharmacy and drive-thru akin to the White Castle building further up on High St.? Yet another missed opportunity. Is it possible for the commission to block this? It seems incredibly shortsighted to do this. It’s the most walkable area of the city with high rent cost. Seems dumb not for them to build something.
June 24, 20222 yr 19 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: No way. I can't believe that parcel wasn't fetched by a developer! How in the world is the city and area commissions okay with this? Why not put a multi-story building on the site with an Equitas pharmacy and drive-thru akin to the White Castle building further up on High St.? Yet another missed opportunity. That’s exactly what should be done. What a waste of a prime corner lot right in the middle of the Short North. I was a bit apprehensive when we found out Equitas had bought the property, but this plan is even worse than the lowest of my expectations.
June 24, 20222 yr Wow this is terrible. Why do they need a drive through right on high street? Do people drive into the Short North to pickup their prescriptions? This news coupled with the scaled down proposal on Hubbard seem to point to a regressive future for the Short North. What a shame.
June 24, 20222 yr 7 minutes ago, Kriegs said: Wow this is terrible. Why do they need a drive through right on high street? Do people drive into the Short North to pickup their prescriptions? This news coupled with the scaled down proposal on Hubbard seem to point to a regressive future for the Short North. What a shame. The scale down on Hubbard? The woods company seems to be holding strong to making it taller. They are back to the commission in July requesting variances for height, of 180’, and some other stuff. The renderings appear the same. The reason this proposal is not great, is most likely what happens when developers don’t buy the land. Equitas isn’t a builder or developer, so they don’t really care.
June 24, 20222 yr I already feel spears headed my way but I'm willing to give some leeway here. 1. The building exists and the commission can't block an existing, structurally sound building for being utilized within existing parameters. They can't force a property owner to tear down a building and build new multistory arbitrarily. 2. Equitas has a purpose in the community and fills a need. They have a vision and mission for the community as well. So if their building isn't quite up to urban junkie desires, they are still there to serve a purpose in a community they care about. Which makes it better than a check cashing place for those reasons as well as the aesthetic upgrades. 3. People do drive from all over to go to this pharmacy specifically. Unlike a CVS on Neil that doesn't have one and you can just as easily drive to a CVS with a drive thru, there are 2 Equitas pharmacies in Columbus so there isn't much room for 'just go to another one' 4. Equitas has built what would be better here. I have a feeling that given the price they paid for the land, and current economic factors, building another similar facility may stretch the budget too much. For now. Yes, they aren't a developer but Equitas isn't blind to good urban needs or designs. To continue to serve the Short North, they needed more space and the option was to maybe hope the developer who buys this land accommodates them or buy the land themselves to have that flexibility. Whether or not they could partner with a developer with them as the land owner might also be difficult in current conditions. I think the idea 'they don't care' is far too dismissive. They might not be focused on retail and restaurants and market rate apartments to further density a neighborhood but they certainly do care about the neighborhood in many more ways. In the end, the Short North has 6ish of this type of spots left. If one of them isn't ideal but offers what Equitas offers, it will all be ok. Is it ideal? No. But does it ruin anything? Absolutely not. It's not building 3 drive thru restaurants along a planned BRT kind of ruin to me. I'd rather be throwing pitchforks at Family Dollar Corporate for sitting on their land than a Healthcare provider that focuses on marginalized and disadvantaged communities. Edited June 24, 20222 yr by DTCL11
June 24, 20222 yr 4 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I already feel spears headed my way but I'm willing to give some leeway here. 1. The building exists and the commission can't block an existing, structurally sound building for being utilized within existing parameters. They can't force a property owner to tear down a building and build new multistory arbitrarily. 2. Equitas has a purpose in the community and fills a need. They have a vision and mission for the community as well. So if their building isn't quite up to urban junkie desires, they are still there to serve a purpose in a community they care about. Which makes it better than a check cashing place for those reasons as well as the aesthetic upgrades. 3. People do drive from all over to go to this pharmacy specifically. Unlike a CVS on Neil that doesn't have one and you can just as easily drive to a CVS with a drive thru, there are 2 Equitas pharmacies in Columbus so there isn't much room for 'just go to another one' 4. Equitas has built what would be better here. I have a feeling that given the price they paid for the land, and current economic factors, building another similar facility may stretch the budget too much. For now. Yes, they aren't a developer but Equitas isn't blind to good urban needs or designs. To continue to serve the Short North, they needed more space and the option was to maybe hope the developer who buys this land accommodates them or buy the land themselves to have that flexibility. Whether or not they could partner with a developer with them as the land owner might also be difficult in current conditions. In the end, the Short North has 6ish of this type of spots left. If one of them isn't ideal but offers what Equitas offers, it will all be ok. I'd rather be throwing pitchforks at Family Dollar Corporate for sitting on their land than a Healthcare provider that focuses on marginalized and disadvantaged communities. You’re not wrong, they serve a great purpose and they are good for the neighborhood. Just seems crazy to not want to maximize the potential of the lot they spent a lot of money on. Edited June 24, 20222 yr by VintageLife
June 24, 20222 yr I agree that an Equitas pharmacy is 1000000x better than a predatory payday lending business. I’m just disappointed bc this also could have been so much more. They could have provided much needed housing, an LGBTQ shelter, etc. Equitas spending money on this rehab instead would mean of that is likely to happen for several years now.
June 24, 20222 yr Remember almost 10 years ago when Winking Lizard opened at 5th and Grandview and the parking situation got out of hand in the surrounding neighborhood? Nobody that wasn't on the inside had really figured it out at the time, but the reason the parking lot was allowed to be so small was because the building was originally built as a Sisters' Chicken and Biscuits (Wendy's '80s experiment with a chicken chain) with a drive-thru. Someone figured out that you could just go back and close the drive-thru and not have to add the missing parking back. So sometimes buildings with existing drive-thrus are desirable. Of course the SN's zoning overlay no longer has the same type of rules encouraging drive-thrus while the 5th Avenue location does. Apparently the SN's zoning overlay didn't prevent the Out of the Closet building from having to add a slip ramp to the back though -- at least at the time. That building was clearly built with being a CVS or Walgreens in mind. Edited June 24, 20222 yr by GCrites80s
June 24, 20222 yr There's certainly those amazing opportunities but if funds don't provide for that now, modest alterations to this site and an operating business will make a world of difference over letting it sit while funds and resources can be gathered and arranged. Kind of like the new airport. They still put many millions into the existing knowing that the new one was just a bit too far away but that didnt necessarily mean that a new airport was delayed over that spending if that makes sense. The economy and building atmosphere can hopefully settle down the road as well. It's a good place holder. Imagine if other developers at least gave us decent place holders while they sit on land. They could have pulled what others are trying in demolishing for parking or just sitting vacant for a decade and just generate parking income. How long has the retail at High and Poplar been vacant at this point? If a developer bought family dollar and simply renovated it for retail, I'd feel similar. Give us something over nothing using the existing structures. But if they proposed building a new piece of trash development, then I'd be pretty upset. For me, I'll take adaptive reuses and be ok with it. That also provides more taxes to the city in income taxes and sales tax if they didn't just let them sit empty. The retail pharmacy up and running in a vibrant neighborhood generates income to achieve a bigger goal, even if it is 5-10 years down the road. For all we know, Family Dollar will still be vacant then. And we may be overlooking that if they do what they did in King Lincoln, it will also provide another piece of that convenience store puzzle where you can pick up simple food products, household goods, that the Short North has lacked and been begging for for many years. I can see where it could have been more but I guess for me, it's just not so much of a disappointment.
June 24, 20222 yr 7 hours ago, GCrites80s said: That building was clearly built with being a CVS or Walgreens in mind. How so? Out of the Closet has been the sole occupant of that building from the start and developed it. I believe it was supposed to have a pharmacy but couldn’t tell you if it ever came to fruition.
June 24, 20222 yr Too architecturally similar to what the big pharmacies typically build. It may have been built that way in case the building is marketed to that type of tenant if they vacate. Similar to how fast food buildings are no longer distinctive to that particular brand once the branding is removed. Everyone can tell when something was an old Pizza Hut but if a new one closes it can turn into a credit union without people being able to tell except for their memories.
June 25, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, wpcc88 said: How so? Out of the Closet has been the sole occupant of that building from the start and developed it. I believe it was supposed to have a pharmacy but couldn’t tell you if it ever came to fruition. They do have a pharmacy inside
June 25, 20222 yr 12 hours ago, GCrites80s said: That building was clearly built with being a CVS or Walgreens in mind. I guess I'm confused. Are you saying that the building was built with the idea of being a Walgreens or CVS or that they modeled it after that to get around some zoning? Out of the Closet (subsidiary of the Aids Healtcare Foundation) bought that land, designed, and purpose built its own building. It may have been modeled off a typical corner pharmacy plug but it was not built with a major retail pharmacy in mind or to market to attracting them. Or is that should they decide to pull from the market, they might have an easier time selling to such an entity?
June 25, 20222 yr 9 hours ago, DTCL11 said: Or is that should they decide to pull from the market, they might have an easier time selling to such an entity? This. It's quite common today.
June 25, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, GCrites80s said: This. It's quite common today. I’ve honestly never seen it or heard of it, at least not in Cbus. Minus maybe garages built with a future conversion in mind. Interesting to say the least.
June 26, 20222 yr On 6/24/2022 at 7:35 PM, GCrites80s said: Similar to how fast food buildings are no longer distinctive to that particular brand once the branding is removed. Everyone can tell when something was an old Pizza Hut but if a new one closes it can turn into a credit union without people being able to tell except for their memories. I don't think this is correct. This isn't the equivalent of buying a white car and not a pink one because of resale value concerns, it's just that the kitschy big Arby's hat or Alamo themed Taco Bell fell out of favor as it became dated and consumers gravitated toward new/modern/clean because you want your food prepared in a new modern clean feeling location rather than in a novelty shack. It's the exact same reason all of their logos have been simplified and flattened. It's just the current style and you don't want to be the one brand that doesn't update and appears dated. They haven't changed their entire brand identities because of concerns about their buildings resale value. I've seen the older buildings torn down and replaced with the exact brand just in the new design (which are still very identifiable as fast food locations). They wouldn't do that if they trying to maximize return on a structure, you do that to maximize return on your brand and boost your food sales.
July 7, 20222 yr Equitas Health Planning New Short North Pharmacy Equitas Health has submitted plans to the Victorian Village Commission to convert the vacant building at 1015 N. High St. into a pharmacy. The single-story building, which held a check-cashing business for years, is located next door to the organization’s Short North Medical Center. “The proposal will revitalize the exterior face and expand Equitas’ presence in the neighborhood,” states a project brief included with the submission packet. “The overall goal of the project is to provide better service to their customers and continue their positive impact on the Short North neighborhood.” More below: https://columbusunderground.com/equitas-health-planning-new-short-north-pharmacy-bw1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 20, 20222 yr Wood Cos.' Parkside on Pearl project finally starts construction near the Short North Wood Cos.' long-planned Parkside on Pearl project is now underway. Construction on the seven-story, 30-unit mixed-use building will take about two years, said Tyler Puhl, Wood's senior vice president of development. Edited July 20, 20222 yr by VintageLife
July 21, 20222 yr ^sounds like a movie title lol Do we have any more info on park improvements? I know there were on and off again agreements of what Wood would do to improve the park and various ideas floated but I dont recall if anything was set in stone?
July 22, 20222 yr On 5/25/2022 at 3:53 PM, VintageLife said: The Hubbard 12 story is back for a demolition permit and some more massing info. The last meeting the commission was worried about the height and wanted some additional massing designs. Wood Cos is going to present 3. the first one is 166 ft, the second is also 166 ft with just a slightly different top and the last one is 141 ft and slightly wider. It honestly looks bad and I’m sure will be the one the commission likes. I went back and looked at the meeting notes for this. The commissioners all ruled out option C and said they would be fine with a or b and that they were not worried about the height anymore.
July 22, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, VintageLife said: I went back and looked at the meeting notes for this. The commissioners all ruled out option C and said they would be fine with a or b and that they were not worried about the height anymore. Wow, have the commissioners had an epiphany? Is this the start of at least one commission that values density in the urban areas over which they have jurisdiction on proposed developments?
July 22, 20222 yr 6 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: Wow, have the commissioners had an epiphany? Is this the start of at least one commission that values density in the urban areas over which they have jurisdiction on proposed developments? Here are the full Commissioner Comments: • The Commissioners support demolition as they are saving the gem of the building which is the front. This is similar to the Kaufman project with the back end of the building being eliminated. And Fireman’s Insurance, it’s the back that was demolished for the front jewel. • The Commission does not take demolition lightly. • In the building’s current state, it wouldn’t be doing any favors as the rear portion isn’t completely useable. • The three options assist in determining an appropriate height. All Commissioners agreed that they could rule out option C. • Commissioners were supportive of options A & B, noting they could go either way with the height dependent on the design. • The mechanical could be hidden and pushed back, as in option B, if the applicant wants to hide the area. This area could also be celebrated. • Commissioners noted that the massings have an Art Deco appearance, noting this style is rather tricky to land. • The Commission is at ease with the proposed height and would support seeing the updated design as an action item at the next hearing.
July 22, 20222 yr 11 hours ago, VintageLife said: • The mechanical could be hidden and pushed back, as in option B, if the applicant wants to hide the area. This area could also be celebrated. Man, I really hope they choose to celebrate those mechanicals.
July 23, 20222 yr 11 hours ago, TIm said: Man, I really hope they choose to celebrate those mechanicals. Tbf the Pompidou Centre would be awesome in the Short North
July 23, 20222 yr 12 hours ago, amped91 said: Pearl, from the Hubbard garage: I’m old enough to remember when this was proposed long before the buildings that now block it’s view to the north and west. Still glad to see it finally happening.
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